Author Topic: Ryan buying into Rangers? (Read 6608 times)

juliogotay · « **on:** March 26, 2009, 03:26:06 pm »

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/032609dnspohickslede.41a8e71.html

OldBlevins · « **Reply #1 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:34:35 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on March 26, 2009, 03:26:06 pm

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/032609dnspohickslede.41a8e71.html

I hope not. I live in fear the RR Express will become a Rangers farm club instead of an Astros one.

Andyzipp · « **Reply #2 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:49:06 pm »

Quote from: OldBlevins on March 26, 2009, 04:34:35 pm

I hope not. I live in fear the RR Express will become a Rangers farm club instead of an Astros one.

I don't believe one should fear the inevitable.

Fredia · « **Reply #3 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:42:07 pm »

hasnt this been covered here before

MusicMan · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2009, 10:16:57 am »

Quote from: Andyzipp on March 26, 2009, 04:49:06 pm

I don't believe one should fear the inevitable.

You don't express that quite as "eloquently" as Clayton Williams did.

juliogotay · « **Reply #5 on:** March 27, 2009, 10:56:40 am »

Quote from: Fredia on March 26, 2009, 09:42:07 pm

hasnt this been covered here before

this was a fresh story from yesterday's DMN centered around Tom Hicks seeking investors for his sports empire.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:05:11 am »

Who's the financial oomph behind Ryan? He can't have enough money to really buy a meaningful stake, can he?

JimR · « **Reply #7 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:38:23 am »

The Ryans want to own a team.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #8 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:59:29 am »

Wanting to own a team and having the money to do so are two different kettles of fish. Assuming that Ryan didn't inherit a ton of money, he couldn't have made enough money pitching to fork out several hundred million for a club.

MusicMan · « **Reply #9 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:59:53 am »

Nolan's been a very, very successful businessman outside of baseball.

hostros7 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:00:27 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on March 27, 2009, 11:59:29 am

Assuming that Ryan didn't inherit a ton of money, he couldn't have made enough money pitching to fork out several hundred million for a club.

Or sold a fuck ton of Jimmy Dean sausage.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #11 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:08:56 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on March 27, 2009, 11:59:53 am

Nolan's been a very, very successful businessman outside of baseball.

Enough to fork over hundreds of millions of dollars and not notice it?

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:09:53 pm »

He has been successful but would he not have to sell his portion of the Express and Hooks in order to secure the capital needed?

Guinness · « **Reply #13 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:15:43 pm »

Quote from: S.P. Rodriguez on March 27, 2009, 12:09:53 pm

He has been successful but would he not have to sell his portion of the Express and Hooks in order to secure the capital needed?

Would the rules require it? Can you have ownership in a minor and major league team? Or minor league teams affiliated with another team?

Bench · « **Reply #14 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:59:39 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on March 27, 2009, 11:59:29 am

Wanting to own a team and having the money to do so are two different kettles of fish. Assuming that Ryan didn't inherit a ton of money, he couldn't have made enough money pitching to fork out several hundred million for a club.

Ryan's certainly been a successful businessman after his baseball career, but to purchase a worthwhile stake in a club, he would have to lead a team of investors, which he is certainly capable of assembling.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #15 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:13:15 pm »

Quote from: Bench on March 27, 2009, 12:59:39 pm

Ryan's certainly been a successful businessman after his baseball career, but to purchase a worthwhile stake in a club, he would have to lead a team of investors, which he is certainly capable of assembling.

Oh, I agree totally. That brings me back to my original question: who's his backer?

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:16:13 pm »

Quote from: Guinness on March 27, 2009, 12:15:43 pm

Would the rules require it? Can you have ownership in a minor and major league team? Or minor league teams affiliated with another team?

Didn't mean to imply the rules require it. Rather, I was simply stating that to raise the capital he would need to buy a major league franchise he would need to sell or leverage his share of the minor league teams. It's pure speculative b.s. He's a wealthy man. I don't know if he's wealthy enough to own 51% of a MLB franchise all by himself, whether he'd need financial backing, or what he'd have to do to collect the financial backing.

Guinness · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:19:42 pm »

Quote from: S.P. Rodriguez on March 27, 2009, 01:16:13 pm

Didn't mean to imply the rules require it. Rather, I was simply stating that to raise the capital he would need to buy a major league franchise he would need to sell or leverage his share of the minor league teams. It's pure speculative b.s. He's a wealthy man. I don't know if he's wealthy enough to own 51% of a MLB franchise all by himself, whether he'd need financial backing, or what he'd have to do to collect the financial backing.

Sorry, poorly worded on my part. I got what you meant, but went on with my own question, should've phrased it better.

JimR · « **Reply #18 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:31:54 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on March 27, 2009, 01:13:15 pm

Oh, I agree totally. That brings me back to my original question: who's his backer?

Ryan is part of a group now. he does not own the two teams alone.

Guinness · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:45:06 pm »

Looks like Troy Aikman has done something similar:

"SAN DIEGO - Former agent Jeff Moorad was introduced as CEO and vice chairman of the San Diego Padres on Thursday, and confirmed that former NFL star Troy Aikman is a limited partner in his ownership group.

Several other businessmen are involved in Moorad's group, which took control of approximately 35 percent of the club from John Moores when papers were signed on Wednesday. Moorad's group expects to own 100 percent within five years in a deal that could top out at around $500 million."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/6345303.html

Bench · « **Reply #20 on:** March 27, 2009, 02:36:04 pm »

Quote from: Guinness on March 27, 2009, 01:45:06 pm

Looks like Troy Aikman has done something similar:

"SAN DIEGO - Former agent Jeff Moorad was introduced as CEO and vice chairman of the San Diego Padres on Thursday, and confirmed that former NFL star Troy Aikman is a limited partner in his ownership group.

Several other businessmen are involved in Moorad's group, which took control of approximately 35 percent of the club from John Moores when papers were signed on Wednesday. Moorad's group expects to own 100 percent within five years in a deal that could top out at around $500 million."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/6345303.html

In Nolan's scenario, he is Moorad, not Aikman.

Gizzmonic · « **Reply #21 on:** March 27, 2009, 02:37:24 pm »

Quote from: Guinness on March 27, 2009, 01:45:06 pm

Looks like Troy Aikman has done something similar:

"SAN DIEGO - Former agent Jeff Moorad was introduced as CEO and vice chairman of the San Diego Padres on Thursday, and confirmed that former NFL star Troy Aikman is a limited partner in his ownership group.

Several other businessmen are involved in Moorad's group, which took control of approximately 35 percent of the club from John Moores when papers were signed on Wednesday. Moorad's group expects to own 100 percent within five years in a deal that could top out at around $500 million."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/6345303.html

They were talking about this on XM today . Apparently, Aikman was a baseball prospect as well at shortstop.

JimR · « **Reply #22 on:** March 27, 2009, 02:49:04 pm »

Quote from: Guinness on March 27, 2009, 12:15:43 pm

Would the rules require it? Can you have ownership in a minor and major league team? Or minor league teams affiliated with another team?

my understanding is that the rules permit it.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #23 on:** March 27, 2009, 03:10:28 pm »

Quote from: Bench on March 27, 2009, 02:36:04 pm

In Nolan's scenario, he is Moorad, not Aikman.

I was listening to something not long ago and they asked a trivia question about QBs who won both a "national championship" and a Super Bowl. They listed Ken Stabler, Joe Namath and Joe Montana. They totally forgot about Aikman.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2009, 07:43:46 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on March 27, 2009, 03:10:28 pm

I was listening to something not long ago and they asked a trivia question about QBs who won both a "national championship" and a Super Bowl. They listed Ken Stabler, Joe Namath and Joe Montana. They totally forgot about Aikman.

That's because Aikman had a season ending injury in the 4th game of the season, Jamelle Holloway took over and was the QB who went on to win the "national championship."

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #25 on:** March 27, 2009, 09:40:02 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on March 27, 2009, 07:43:46 pm

That's because Aikman had a season ending injury in the 4th game of the season, Jamelle Holloway took over and was the QB who went on to win the "national championship."

Aikman still played QB on that team, for a significant amount of the season. He won both a "national championship" and multiple Super Bowls.

I'm Richies Dad · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:23:58 pm »

my understanding is that the rules permit it. Yeah didn't the Red Sox buy Salem, so technically, the major league club owns a minor league club.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #27 on:** March 28, 2009, 09:14:59 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on March 27, 2009, 09:40:02 pm

Aikman still played QB on that team, for a significant amount of the season. He won both a "national championship" and multiple Super Bowls.

He did not play in the "national championship" game. He was on a team that won the "national championship." To say that he did the same as Stabler, Montana, and Namath, is akin to some nut claiming that that the Tartabul's combined for over 400 ABs as a DHers.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #28 on:** March 28, 2009, 11:19:00 am »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on March 28, 2009, 09:14:59 am

He did not play in the "national championship" game. He was on a team that won the "national championship." To say that he did the same as Stabler, Montana, and Namath, is akin to some nut claiming that that the Tartabul's combined for over 400 ABs as a DHers.

You mess with the Tartabull...

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #29 on:** March 28, 2009, 11:58:27 am »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on March 28, 2009, 09:14:59 am

He did not play in the "national championship" game. He was on a team that won the "national championship." To say that he did the same as Stabler, Montana, and Namath, is akin to some nut claiming that that the Tartabul's combined for over 400 ABs as a DHers.

There is not now, nor has there ever been a "national championship" game in Div. 1 college football. There wasn't even a BCS Championship game in 1985 when Aikman played at OU. The "national championship" was simply hypothetically awarded by various press agencies based on how you did during the season. Aikman started 4 of the teams 11 games that season. BTW, Stabler only played part time in 1965 when Alabama won the "national championship", so to say Aikman was any different is like saying Brad Pitt and I have combined for banging Angelina Jolie hundreds of times.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #30 on:** March 28, 2009, 12:22:26 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on March 28, 2009, 11:58:27 am

to say Aikman was any different is like saying Brad Pitt and I have combined for banging Angelina Jolie hundreds of times.

Could you add me to that? That would make it a tri-hump-virate.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #31 on:** March 28, 2009, 12:45:01 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on March 28, 2009, 11:58:27 am

There is not now, nor has there ever been a "national championship" game in Div. 1 college football. There wasn't even a BCS Championship game in 1985 when Aikman played at OU. The "national championship" was simply hypothetically awarded by various press agencies based on how you did during the season. Aikman started 4 of the teams 11 games that season. BTW, Stabler only played part time in 1965 when Alabama won the "national championship", so to say Aikman was any different is like saying Brad Pitt and I have combined for banging Angelina Jolie hundreds of times.

Okay, but, what I'm saying is that Jamele Holieway is the only reason Aikman ever got to bang Angelina Jolie.

austro · « **Reply #32 on:** March 28, 2009, 05:00:07 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on March 28, 2009, 12:45:01 pm

Okay, but, what I'm saying is that Jamele Holieway is the only reason Aikman ever got to bang Angelina Jolie.

Wait, I'm confused. I thought Aikman wanted to bang Brad Pitt.

Duman · « **Reply #33 on:** March 28, 2009, 09:29:06 pm »

Quote from: I'm Richies Dad on March 27, 2009, 11:23:58 pm

my understanding is that the rules permit it. Yeah didn't the Red Sox buy Salem, so technically, the major league club owns a minor league club.

Major league teams own all of their rookie league teams. Some own higher affiliations as well, like the Red Sox (Hi-A Salem), the Mets (short season Brooklyn) and the Yankee's (Staten Island & Tampa) and the Braves (every stinking affiliate).