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« on: December 17, 2008, 09:53:52 am »
Why would a national writer even bring this up?
http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/32807
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2008, 09:59:02 am »
Seems like news to me.  I didn't know the investigation was "ongoing."
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2008, 10:45:48 am »
Why would a national writer even bring this up?
http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/32807


The Astros have been trying to trade him and it might be an issue for some teams.  Now here's a topic that never gets old.  It must not because some brain dead douche bag scrambling to kill bytes brings it up EVERY FUCKING YEAR.  Today's douche bag, Buster Olney,

Trade in Oswalt's future?
The Braves tried once to make a deal for Peavy and failed, and they tried and failed to sign A.J. Burnett, and there really are no pitchers remaining on the free-agent market of the ilk of CC Sabathia or Burnett -- big arms who can dominate hitters. So rather than spend on a second-tier free agent, it makes sense for the Braves to come up with another way to use their available money -- such as signing Furcal and creating the flexibility with Escobar to pursue someone like Peavy or Roy Oswalt.

Keep bringing it up, one year you'll be right.

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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2008, 10:54:17 am »
Thought the Furcal signing was to move him over to 2b?

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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2008, 10:54:18 am »
Today's douche bag, Buster Olney,

Trade in Oswalt's future?
The Braves tried once to make a deal for Peavy and failed, and they tried and failed to sign A.J. Burnett, and there really are no pitchers remaining on the free-agent market of the ilk of CC Sabathia or Burnett -- big arms who can dominate hitters. So rather than spend on a second-tier free agent, it makes sense for the Braves to come up with another way to use their available money -- such as signing Furcal and creating the flexibility with Escobar to pursue someone like Peavy or Roy Oswalt.

Keep bringing it up, one year you'll be right.

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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2008, 10:59:13 am »
Yesterday's douche bag? The usual suspect.

Douchebag1 now thinks his "story" has been confirmed by Douchebag2.

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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2008, 11:07:09 am »
The Astros have been trying to trade him and it might be an issue for some teams.  Now here's a topic that never gets old.  It must not because some brain dead douche bag scrambling to kill bytes brings it up EVERY FUCKING YEAR.  Today's douche bag, Buster Olney,

Trade in Oswalt's future?
The Braves tried once to make a deal for Peavy and failed, and they tried and failed to sign A.J. Burnett, and there really are no pitchers remaining on the free-agent market of the ilk of CC Sabathia or Burnett -- big arms who can dominate hitters. So rather than spend on a second-tier free agent, it makes sense for the Braves to come up with another way to use their available money -- such as signing Furcal and creating the flexibility with Escobar to pursue someone like Peavy or Roy Oswalt.

Keep bringing it up, one year you'll be right.

But Buster was on SportsCenter this morning saying that the Furcal to Braves might not happen and the Dodgers were back in the mix.  Speculative speculation, forsooth.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2008, 12:40:28 pm »
rotoworld's take (i usually trust these guys) is furcal back to LAD.

i'm still trying to wrap my head around escobar + anything atlanta has for oswalt? honestly, i've never proposed any trade that bad in fantasy baseball, let alone hear someone say it on national TV.


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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2008, 01:03:43 pm »
The Astros have been trying to trade him and it might be an issue for some teams.  Now here's a topic that never gets old.  It must not because some brain dead douche bag scrambling to kill bytes brings it up EVERY FUCKING YEAR.  Today's douche bag, Buster Olney,

Trade in Oswalt's future?
The Braves tried once to make a deal for Peavy and failed, and they tried and failed to sign A.J. Burnett, and there really are no pitchers remaining on the free-agent market of the ilk of CC Sabathia or Burnett -- big arms who can dominate hitters. So rather than spend on a second-tier free agent, it makes sense for the Braves to come up with another way to use their available money -- such as signing Furcal and creating the flexibility with Escobar to pursue someone like Peavy or Roy Oswalt.

Keep bringing it up, one year you'll be right.

Oh, that's not even half of it...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=gammons_peter

Gammons offers these turd morsels:
"If the Mets can't get Derek Lowe on a three-year, $36 million deal, or if Oliver Perez gets too expensive, they can sign a Randy Wolf and wait to see whether a Dan Haren or Roy Oswalt becomes available by midseason. "

and provides this anonymous quote:
"We are now basing all our economics on the past," said one general manager in Las Vegas, "without any way of knowing about the future. The Mets may not have been willing to trade Jon Niese for J.J. Putz, but Roy Oswalt? They will. The Red Sox may have refused to trade Michael Bowden for Miguel Montero, but you can be sure they will for Chris Iannetta. See me in July."

And then there's the Mitchell arcticle http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3764015 with a lead-in picture of Clemens in ... wait for it... an Astros uniform.  Not because they were the last team he played for nor the most popular team he played for.  Yep, Clemens will forever be known as an Astro...

I didn't post anything about this as I filed it undre "Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me."  I went to that site, should have known what I was getting into...
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2008, 01:08:16 pm »
Douchebag1 now thinks his "story" has been confirmed by Douchebag2.

I think this years iteration of this started with Douchebag3 and the Worldwide Leader of Douchebags.

If the Mets can't get Derek Lowe on a three-year, $36 million deal, or if Oliver Perez gets too expensive, they can sign a Randy Wolf and wait to see whether a Dan Haren or Roy Oswalt becomes available by midseason. *** "We are now basing all our economics on the past," said one general manager in Las Vegas, "without any way of knowing about the future. The Mets may not have been willing to trade Jon Niese for J.J. Putz, but Roy Oswalt?

Of course, when promoting the blog the Worldwide Leader of Douchebags used a pic of Roy.  So of course, Douchebag 2 gets some calls and is happy to stir the pot further and Douchebag 1, reading stuff from DB3 and DB2, runs with it...

The question for me though, is if this years version could end up having some validity.  Was JdJO's blog about Roy being willing to rework his contract to bring in a pitcher just another 'stir the pot' story?  I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if Roy was just trying to put some pressure on McLane to spend some money on one of his buddies (or pitcher of similar quality).  In the event that Houston does not bring in a #2 type pitcher before the season begins, would I be shocked to read that Roy was asking to be traded - not so much...

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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2008, 01:10:11 pm »
niese for oswalt? omfg- quoting harry callahan, that's "mighty white of" the mets.

niese is garbage. in fact, my 9-year-old son uses "niese" as a verb, for sucking beyond all reason, after watching niese walk the bases loaded then serve up a grand slam to the opposing pitcher.

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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2008, 01:14:53 pm »
I think this years iteration of this started with Douchebag3 and the Worldwide Leader of Douchebags.

If the Mets can't get Derek Lowe on a three-year, $36 million deal, or if Oliver Perez gets too expensive, they can sign a Randy Wolf and wait to see whether a Dan Haren or Roy Oswalt becomes available by midseason. *** "We are now basing all our economics on the past," said one general manager in Las Vegas, "without any way of knowing about the future. The Mets may not have been willing to trade Jon Niese for J.J. Putz, but Roy Oswalt?

Of course, when promoting the blog the Worldwide Leader of Douchebags used a pic of Roy.  So of course, Douchebag 2 gets some calls and is happy to stir the pot further and Douchebag 1, reading stuff from DB3 and DB2, runs with it...

The question for me though, is if this years version could end up having some validity.  Was JdJO's blog about Roy being willing to rework his contract to bring in a pitcher just another 'stir the pot' story?  I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if Roy was just trying to put some pressure on McLane to spend some money on one of his buddies (or pitcher of similar quality).  In the event that Houston does not bring in a #2 type pitcher before the season begins, would I be shocked to read that Roy was asking to be traded - not so much...

ETA: Cabrerad on the link by S.P....

Every single season it's the same.   In preseason the Astros are trading Bagwell, Biggio, Oswalt, etc and at the deadline, Bagwell, Biggio, Kent, Clemens, Pettitte, Lidge, Wagner, etc.  Because they've got no chance and they just want to cut salary, yet every season they have a chance and the salary keeps going up.  It's bs from reporters who dont know the team.  That especially includes Ortiz and Justice.  Of course there is a chance that the Astros could trade Oswalt and the best way to say I told you so is to predict it every fucking season.

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Re: Tejada
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2008, 01:26:11 pm »
niese for oswalt? omfg- quoting harry callahan, that's "mighty white of" the mets.

Remember... every team outside of the Northeast is desperate to shed money and has no idea how to scout players.

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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2008, 01:27:29 pm »
Every single season it's the same.   In preseason the Astros are trading Bagwell, Biggio, Oswalt, etc and at the deadline, Bagwell, Biggio, Kent, Clemens, Pettitte, Lidge, Wagner, etc.  Because they've got no chance and they just want to cut salary, yet every season they have a chance and the salary keeps going up.  It's bs from reporters who dont know the team.  That especially includes Ortiz and Justice.  Of course there is a chance that the Astros could trade Oswalt and the best way to say I told you so is to predict it every fucking season.

This story pisses me off every year I hear it, and I get that the media considers Houston just a big farm club for the real baseball teams in the AL East (and to a much lesser extent the NL East).

However, would it surprise me to learn that Roy got pissed because McLane could have picked up one or both of his buddies but didn't, and later asked for a trade?  Like I said, this year not so much. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2008, 01:44:13 pm »
This story pisses me off every year I hear it, and I get that the media considers Houston just a big farm club for the real baseball teams in the AL East (and to a much lesser extent the NL East).

However, would it surprise me to learn that Roy got pissed because McLane could have picked up one or both of his buddies but didn't, and later asked for a trade?  Like I said, this year not so much. 

I don't know.  Are we crediting Ortiz's "pot stirring"?  JO says Roy talked directly to Mclane, Footer quotes Mclane saying he didn't.  I think there's some of the usual JO "magic" here. 

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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2008, 02:39:58 pm »
... Today's douche bag, Buster Olney,

...it makes sense for the Braves to come up with another way to use their available money -- such as signing Furcal and creating the flexibility with Escobar to pursue someone like Peavy or Roy Oswalt.

Olney, shut up

"Furcal ultimately decided to accept the Dodgers' offer, taking into consideration a number of factors, the most important of which was his desire to continue playing shortstop and not make the position change to second base that the Braves were requiring."
http://www.pe.com/sports/baseball/dodgers/stories/PE_Sports_Local_S_dodgers_notes_19.19dd20d.html

The Braves never intended to create flexibility for a trade, they wanted Furcal to play 2nd.  So much so they insisted on it.  Pathetic reporting.

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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2008, 07:18:05 pm »
I'm not sure if I'd rather hear about Tejada, or ESPN's minute by minute analysis of how close or how far the Red Sox are from signing Teixeira.
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2008, 10:05:44 am »
I'm not sure if I'd rather hear about Tejada, or ESPN's minute by minute analysis of how close or how far the Red Sox are from signing Teixeira.

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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2008, 08:29:33 pm »
More fun with Olney:

"And now [Orlando] Cabrera might have a tough time finding a landing spot, especially at a time when anybody who needs a shortstop could find a nice alternative by calling the Astros and taking the Miguel Tejada salary dump."
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