A-Rod a Slut

[Limey]

I'm shocked and stunned.  As is Mrs A-Rod.

Do you think he runs around NYC bars shouting "Mine!" at any chick in there?

[Ty in Tampa]

I'm shocked and stunned.  As is Mrs A-Rod.

Do you think he runs around NYC bars shouting "Mine!" at any chick in there?

Only if he wants their purse.

[Limey]

Only if he wants their purse.

I'm sure he has plenty of shoes, and if you see a purse that absolutely matches and you just have to have it...

[JimR]

my favorite ARod story:

in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, he like everyone else in the USA was grounded and stranded away from home as the country reeled from use of commercial airliners as a weapon. he tried desperately to find someone who would charter a plane to fly him to Las Vegas and was pissed that no one would do it.

reported to me by a MLB source. i hope it is true because it fits with what i think of him.

[Limey]

my favorite ARod story:

in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, he like everyone else in the USA was grounded and stranded away from home as the country reeled from use of commercial airliners as a weapon. he tried desperately to find someone who would charter a plane to fly him to Las Vegas and was pissed that no one would do it.

reported to me by a MLB source. i hope it is true because it fits with what i think of him.

He wanted to go to Las Vegas because...his games had been cancelled and he had a couple of free days?

I'm not sure this is is news, but...what a tool.

ETA:  On that day, a couple of my colleagues were in Salt Lake City on bidness.  They hired a car and drove home to Houston.  A-Rod is the poster child for all douchebag athletes.

ETA2:  About 500 of my colleagues were in the south tower.  173 never made it out, including 5 who were  quite dear to me.  I have always considered A-Rod to be a prick, but I have never thought of him as a bigger cunt of a human being as I do after reading Jim's post.  I truly hope it's rumour without substance, because there's not a word to describe the man if it's true.

[ybbodeus]

Did the same thing from Little Rock, LImey.  In fact I met former Rice basketball coach Willis Wilson at 1:30 in the morning returning his rental car to Hertz.  He's been in KC and decided to make the trek over waiting it out.  I have buds who did the same from L.A. to freaking Jacksonville.

[Gizzmonic]

Athletic, rich, and stupid is one helluva way to go through life, son.

I'm shocked and stunned.  As is Mrs A-Rod.

Do you think he runs around NYC bars shouting "Mine!" at any chick in there?

[Limey]

Memo to A-Rod.

PS  I'm in a baaad fucking mood this afternoon.

[UpTooLate]

ETA2:  About 500 of my colleagues were in the south tower.  173 never made it out, including 5 who were  quite dear to me.  I have always considered A-Rod to be a prick, but I have never thought of him as a bigger cunt of a human being as I do after reading Jim's post.  I truly hope it's rumour without substance, because there's not a word to describe the man if it's true.

Condolences my man.  That was truly a sad day.  My fondest memory if that word can be appropriate was driving home on 610 west (everybody just left work early) and all the usual horn honking, position grabbing pricks were nowhere to be found.  Everybody was waving at each other and being extremely polite.  Traffic flowed like a dream even though the road was packed.  Everybody shared in the sadness and thought of people other than themselves.

If A-Rod threw a hissy because he couldn't go to the casino, then fuck that motherfucker.

[Holly]

Mom and I (and my now-husband) were in the air flying back from Alaska when that happened. Mom and I got sent back to Seattle, Joey landed in Salt Lake City. We rented a car the next day and drove to straight to Los Angeles and flew back to Houston a week later. Joey got on the first bus he could and rode that back to NW Arkansas. Anyone concerned more with making it to Vegas than in the lives and peril of the situation can kiss my fat, pregnant, grouchy @ss.

[UpTooLate]

Anyone concerned more with making it to Vegas than in the lives and peril of the situation can kiss my fat, pregnant, grouchy @ss.

Congrats Holly!

[Holly]

Congrats Holly!

Thanks. Less than a month to go. A-Rod's more of a slut than I am, and he doesn't have a physical vagina.

[Limey]

Condolences my man.  That was truly a sad day.  My fondest memory if that word can be appropriate was driving home on 610 west (everybody just left work early) and all the usual horn honking, position grabbing pricks were nowhere to be found.  Everybody was waving at each other and being extremely polite.  Traffic flowed like a dream even though the road was packed.  Everybody shared in the sadness and thought of people other than themselves.

If A-Rod threw a hissy because he couldn't go to the casino, then fuck that motherfucker.

Appreciate the condolences, but truly my loss that day was insignificant compared to what many suffered.

But I'm in total agreement about A-Rod.  I'm inclined to believe the worst in him because I think he's a tosser, but if he actually got pissy because he found himself unexpectedly with time on his hands due to 9/11 but couldn't get to Vegas...on that day of all days...then he is an unspeakable prick.

This from a bloke who opted to play for the U.S. in the WBC in 2006.

[UpTooLate]

Thanks. Less than a month to go. A-Rod's more of a slut than I am, and he doesn't have a physical vagina.

That you know of.......

[Holly]

Limey:
Sorry about the tone change, but in response to your new av and sig... "It'll have to come out." Got any anesthetic? I'm thinking a big tank of laughing gas shoved up A-Rod's back end might do the trick (with the nozzle hanging OUT, not IN).

[Limey]

A-Rod's more of a slut than I am, and he doesn't have a physical vagina.

Incorrect syntax.  You cannot have "A-Rod" and "vagina" in the same sentence without the word "is".

Oh, and congrats on the sprog.  Just one more month of insane heat to go...

[Limey]

Limey:
Sorry about the tone change, but in response to your new av and sig... "It'll have to come out." Got any anesthetic? I'm thinking a big tank of laughing gas shoved up A-Rod's back end might do the trick (with the nozzle hanging OUT, not IN).

Where's the bloody Lancet?

[Amy]

my favorite ARod story:

in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, he like everyone else in the USA was grounded and stranded away from home as the country reeled from use of commercial airliners as a weapon. he tried desperately to find someone who would charter a plane to fly him to Las Vegas and was pissed that no one would do it.

reported to me by a MLB source. i hope it is true because it fits with what i think of him.

What a dickhead.  On that horrible day, I luckily was not stranded far from home.  I was at work in Arlington, VA just a few short miles from the Pentagon, having passed right by the very spot where the plane hit probably less than an hour later.  I was most concerned about contacting my friends who worked in Manhattan and then trying to find a way home.  I recall many people walking out of DC across the bridges, hitchhiking home on I-95, since the Pentagon was (and is) one of the main hubs of transportation for commuters in DC/Northern Virginia.  After I finally got home, it seems like I spent days doing nothing but watching aftermath on TV, other than when I was working.  And every day I had to drive past the Pentagon and see the gaping, charred hole.  It continued to burn and smoke for about a week.  I can't begin to imagine how a person could even contemplate a trip to Vegas (unless you lived there) in those days, much less be serious enough about it to spend any time or energy trying to organize it.  Boggles the mind...

[Andyzipp]

What a dickhead.  On that horrible day, I luckily was not stranded far from home.  I was at work in Arlington, VA just a few short miles from the Pentagon, having passed right by the very spot where the plane hit probably less than an hour later.  I was most concerned about contacting my friends who worked in Manhattan and then trying to find a way home.  I recall many people walking out of DC across the bridges, hitchhiking home on I-95, since the Pentagon was (and is) one of the main hubs of transportation for commuters in DC/Northern Virginia.  After I finally got home, it seems like I spent days doing nothing but watching aftermath on TV, other than when I was working.  And every day I had to drive past the Pentagon and see the gaping, charred hole.  It continued to burn and smoke for about a week.  I can't begin to imagine how a person could even contemplate a trip to Vegas (unless you lived there) in those days, much less be serious enough about it to spend any time or energy trying to organize it.  Boggles the mind...

Same mentality (focused elsewhere, obviously) for those who don't believe an airliner actually hit the Pentagon.

[Amy]

Same mentality (focused elsewhere, obviously) for those who don't believe an airliner actually hit the Pentagon.

Really?  What do they think happened?  Some kind of crazy conspiracy theory?  I have a friend who lives very close to the Pentagon, who happened to be outside that morning and saw the plane, flying low enough that she could see people's faces in the windows.

[mihoba]

Really?  What do they think happened?  Some kind of crazy conspiracy theory?  I have a friend who lives very close to the Pentagon, who happened to be outside that morning and saw the plane, flying low enough that she could see people's faces in the windows.

There are conspiracy theories about every event known to mankind.

[Houston]

What a dickhead.  On that horrible day, I luckily was not stranded far from home.  I was at work in Arlington, VA just a few short miles from the Pentagon, having passed right by the very spot where the plane hit probably less than an hour later.  I was most concerned about contacting my friends who worked in Manhattan and then trying to find a way home.  I recall many people walking out of DC across the bridges, hitchhiking home on I-95, since the Pentagon was (and is) one of the main hubs of transportation for commuters in DC/Northern Virginia.  After I finally got home, it seems like I spent days doing nothing but watching aftermath on TV, other than when I was working.  And every day I had to drive past the Pentagon and see the gaping, charred hole.  It continued to burn and smoke for about a week.  I can't begin to imagine how a person could even contemplate a trip to Vegas (unless you lived there) in those days, much less be serious enough about it to spend any time or energy trying to organize it.  Boggles the mind...

Not to defend anyone, but even if the story is true about A-Rod trying to get to Vegas, it doesn't necessarily mean he was going there to gamble. Maybe he was going to see Pete Rose (if you saw the recent espn.com story of the unusual friendship between Rose and Rod).

[sporadic]

Not to defend anyone, but even if the story is true about A-Rod trying to get to Vegas, it doesn't necessarily mean he was going there to gamble. Maybe he was going to see Pete Rose (if you saw the recent espn.com story of the unusual friendship between Rose and Rod).

I may be way off, but I think A-Rod's doucheness revolves around the thought he was going to Vegas to get a piece of ass, not to gamble (in this thread, at least)

[Gizzmonic]

Really?  What do they think happened?  Some kind of crazy conspiracy theory?  I have a friend who lives very close to the Pentagon, who happened to be outside that morning and saw the plane, flying low enough that she could see people's faces in the windows.

Yes, there are plenty of crazy conspiracy theorists.  They are, invariably, idiots.  One of my friends lost an uncle who was doing construction work at the Pentagon.  Not to say I was close to him or anything like that, but it really boils my blood when these Ron Paul-loving morons try to say the government did it.

[Andyzipp]

Really?  What do they think happened?  Some kind of crazy conspiracy theory?  I have a friend who lives very close to the Pentagon, who happened to be outside that morning and saw the plane, flying low enough that she could see people's faces in the windows.

If you really want to get pissed off, look up "Loose Change" on YouTube or Google.

[Rebel Jew]

Yes, there are plenty of crazy conspiracy theorists.  They are, invariably, idiots.  One of my friends lost an uncle who was doing construction work at the Pentagon.  Not to say I was close to him or anything like that, but it really boils my blood when these Ron Paul-loving morons try to say the government did it.

what does ron paul or ron paul supporters have to do with any of this?  alex jones-loving maybe.

[JackAstro]

If you really want to get pissed off, look up "Loose Change" on YouTube or Google.

Oh my God, seriously, don't get me started.

[MRaup]

what does ron paul or ron paul supporters have to do with any of this?  alex jones-loving maybe.

Probably the fact that 2/3 of his supporters are bat-shit crazy.

[Holly]

Not to defend anyone, but even if the story is true about A-Rod trying to get to Vegas, it doesn't necessarily mean he was going there to gamble. Maybe he was going to see Pete Rose (if you saw the recent espn.com story of the unusual friendship between Rose and Rod).

The reason doesn't matter to me, just the attitude.

[Limey]

There are conspiracy theories about every event known to mankind.

Carl Everett was on Ted Turner's payroll.  There, I said it.

[Nate in IA]

Probably the fact that 2/3 of his supporters are bat-shit crazy.

Got any support for that supposed 'fact'?

[subnuclear]

Probably the fact that 2/3 of his supporters are bat-shit crazy.

The loud ones sure, but loud democrats and republicans are bat-shit crazy too.  

[Limey]

Got any support for that supposed 'fact'?

Empirical data: just watch the at-bat.  No human being blessed with sight swings at all three of those pitches, unless they're getting paid to do so.

[Noe]

Empirical data: just watch the at-bat.  No human being blessed with sight swings at all three of those pitches, unless they're getting paid to do so.

"Whaaat!!! DAMN!" - Pete Rose

[Nate in IA]

Empirical data: just watch the at-bat.  No human being blessed with sight swings at all three of those pitches, unless they're getting paid to do so.

Bravo sir, Bravo.

[Gizzmonic]

I always end up arguing with these "9/11 truth" guys at parties or at bars.  Every single one of them has been a Ron Paul supporter.  I know it's a bad sample, maybe there are some non-crazy Ron Paul supporters but I haven't seen them.

what does ron paul or ron paul supporters have to do with any of this?  alex jones-loving maybe.

[Houston]

I always end up arguing with these "9/11 truth" guys at parties or at bars.  Every single one of them has been a Ron Paul supporter.  I know it's a bad sample, maybe there are some non-crazy Ron Paul supporters but I haven't seen them.

I don't know if Ron Paul believes that stuff himself, but he certainly doesn't dismiss it. He accommodates those who feel left behind by whatever system they abhor and they bond together because of common abandonment. It's a populist message for a small segment of the population.

That being said, having known Ron Paul personally, I wouldn't ever vote for him.

[Limey]

I always end up arguing with these "9/11 truth" guys at parties or at bars.  Every single one of them has been a Ron Paul supporter.  I know it's a bad sample, maybe there are some non-crazy Ron Paul supporters but I haven't seen them.

That's because, despite having some popular, anti-establishment views, Ron Paul himself is pretty nuts.  He wants to abolish things like the FDA and EPA - letting the market sort out such things as poisoned food and/or poisoned water.  So, if your kid dies from eating corn dogs made out of dogshit from China, you won't be buying that brand again!

[subnuclear]

That's because, despite having some popular, anti-establishment views, Ron Paul himself is pretty nuts.  He wants to abolish things like the FDA and EPA - letting the market sort out such things as poisoned food and/or poisoned water.  So, if your kid dies from eating corn dogs made out of dogshit from China, you won't be buying that brand again!

Ron Paul thinks these issues would be better solved by courts.  You may not agree with that, but its not the situation you described.   

In any case, if there had been any other candidate that I thought was serious about not having an aggressive foreign policy, who would stand up to Wall Street at least once in their lives, had an reasonable immigration policy, whose platform wasn't 100% devoted to running up the government deficit as high as it would go  and basically convinced me they read the constitution at least once, then I probably would of voted for them instead of Ron Paul.    I don't think anything I listed is nuts. 

[MRaup]

Got any support for that supposed 'fact'?

I live in Austin.

[BizidyDizidy]

Ron Paul thinks these issues would be better solved by courts.  You may not agree with that, but its not the situation you described.   

So you solve the problem by suing a chinese fly-by-night corndog company? And here I thought the idea was crazy.

[Limey]

Ron Paul thinks these issues would be better solved by courts.  You may not agree with that, but its not the situation you described.

Either way, the kid is still dead.

In any case, if there had been any other candidate that I thought was serious about not having an aggressive foreign policy, who would stand up to Wall Street at least once in their lives, had an reasonable immigration policy, whose platform wasn't 100% devoted to running up the government deficit as high as it would go  and basically convinced me they read the constitution at least once, then I probably would of voted for them instead of Ron Paul.    I don't think anything I listed is nuts. 

These are the popular, anti-establishment views I mentioned in the other post.  They are not proof that the balance of his manifesto isn't looped.

[subnuclear]

So you solve the problem by suing a chinese fly-by-night corndog company? And here I thought the idea was crazy.

You sue the person you sold it to and the distributor. 

[Limey]

You sue the person you sold it to and the distributor. 

Fuck it!  Sue everybody!  And watch retails prices skyrocket as vendors have to (a) spend fortunes on vetting all the products they sell; and (b) spend fortunes on legal fees and settlements because there is no way that they can vet every element of the food production and supply chain to ensure that they won't end up selling something that poisons someone.

[sporadic]

You sue the person you sold it to and the distributor. 

Isn't the kid still dead in that case...you need some sort of preventative measure, I would think

[sporadic]

Fuck it!  Sue everybody!  And watch retails prices skyrocket as vendors have to (a) spend fortunes on vetting all the products they sell; and (b) spend fortunes on legal fees and settlements because there is no way that they can vet every element of the food production and supply chain to ensure that they won't end up selling something that poisons someone.

for reference, see:

Insurance, Health

[subnuclear]

These are the popular, anti-establishment views I mentioned in the other post.  They are not proof that the balance of his manifesto isn't looped.

I think they are more important to me than objections to the FDA or EPA and I don't think I'm nuts for thinking that.

[Limey]

for reference, see:

Insurance, Health

The problem isn't so much that vendors would have to do the work that, say, the FDA does (or should be doing).  It's that (a) the work would be duplicated by every vendor, making it massively inefficient and exponentially expensive; and (b) the vendor will come at it from a profit/loss mindset, not a live/die mindset.

Take the number of vehicles in the field, (A), and multiply it by the probable rate of failure, (B), then multiply the result by the average out-of-court settlement, (C).  A times B times C equals X...

If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

[Limey]

I think they are more important to me than objections to the FDA or EPA and I don't think I'm nuts for thinking that.

If you don't think the function of the likes of the FDA and EPA (even if they are mostly dysfunctional - but that's another matter), then I think you fit into MRaup's 2/3rds.  Those organisations are the only thing that's keeping Tillman Fertita from putting you down with a shrimp that was scooped up from the mouth of a sewer pipe that's disgorging toxic effluent into the Gulf of Mexico.

[sporadic]

If you don't think the function of the likes of the FDA and EPA (even if they are mostly dysfunctional - but that's another matter), then I think you fit into MRaup's 2/3rds.  Those organisations are the only thing that's keeping Tillman Fertita from putting you down with a shrimp that was scooped up from the mouth of a sewer pipe that's disgorging toxic effluent into the Gulf of Mexico.

Nothing wrong with that unless A) It kills you, or B)  The cost of paying off your family after death eats up an unacceptable amount of profit...by the way, A is OK if B is an acceptable figure, given the sewer shrimp are bought at the right price

[Limey]

Nothing wrong with that unless A) It kills you, or B)  The cost of paying off your family after death eats up an unacceptable amount of profit...by the way, A is OK if B is an acceptable figure, given the sewer shrimp are bought at the right price

That's the point.  There are no-shrimping zones currently, because of proximity to waste outlets and such, yet some people still shrimp there.  Those potentially dangerous, and illegally harvested, shrimp still get sold out of road-side coolers and sometimes to restaurants.  If there was no threat of getting the FDA all the way up the arse with a flashlight, I'm sure more restaurants would choose to buy the cheapest shrimp and not care to much about where it was netted.  They'd pocket the difference and trust to luck that they cook them all perfectly so that their customers survive long enough to come back for more of their competitively-priced shrimp.

[Nate in IA]

That's the point.  There are no-shrimping zones currently, because of proximity to waste outlets and such, yet some people still shrimp there.  Those potentially dangerous, and illegally harvested, shrimp still get sold out of road-side coolers and sometimes to restaurants.  If there was no threat of getting the FDA all the way up the arse with a flashlight, I'm sure more restaurants would choose to buy the cheapest shrimp and not care to much about where it was netted.  They'd pocket the difference and trust to luck that they cook them all perfectly so that their customers survive long enough to come back for more of their competitively-priced shrimp.

You folks seem to think that only the government can tell you what's safe and what's not.   Do you really think there would be no watchdogs on things?    Is it really in a business' interest to sell products that kill their customers?   Would you personally do that if you owned a business?   Really, this fear that everyone will die if the government isn't doing something is what is bat-shit crazy.

[Nate in IA]

I live in Austin.

So, from that point of view, 2/3ds is about right since that's about the population of crazies in Austin.   Here in Iowa, the Ron Paul supporters are sane, respectful and articulate so your mileage may vary.

[Houston]

If you don't think the function of the likes of the FDA and EPA (even if they are mostly dysfunctional - but that's another matter), then I think you fit into MRaup's 2/3rds.  Those organisations are the only thing that's keeping Tillman Fertita from putting you down with a shrimp that was scooped up from the mouth of a sewer pipe that's disgorging toxic effluent into the Gulf of Mexico.

You know, there are (or can be) other options and "crazy" isn't the result of every contrary position.

[austro]

Is it really in a business' interest to sell products that kill their customers?

Like cigarettes?

I think there are enough examples in our past to indicate that it's not always a good idea to expect companies/industries to police themselves. And while in theory it's not necessary that the government have that watchdog role, in practice it seems that the most dangerous offenders are large enough that the government is the only entity with enough clout to make them change their ways.

[sporadic]

That's the point.  There are no-shrimping zones currently, because of proximity to waste outlets and such, yet some people still shrimp there.  Those potentially dangerous, and illegally harvested, shrimp still get sold out of road-side coolers and sometimes to restaurants.  If there was no threat of getting the FDA all the way up the arse with a flashlight, I'm sure more restaurants would choose to buy the cheapest shrimp and not care to much about where it was netted.  They'd pocket the difference and trust to luck that they cook them all perfectly so that their customers survive long enough to come back for more of their competitively-priced shrimp.

Sorry Limey...forgot the flashing "insert sarcastic comment here" sign

I'm with ya, man

[Houston]

Like cigarettes?

I think there are enough examples in our past to indicate that it's not always a good idea to expect companies/industries to police themselves. And while in theory it's not necessary that the government have that watchdog role, in practice it seems that the most dangerous offenders are large enough that the government is the only entity with enough clout to make them change their ways.

The problem comes when the "government" becomes individual candidates who accept cash donations from those they are supposed to be monitoring. Whichever direction you chose or position you take, there will always be loopholes waiting to be exploited.

[sporadic]

You folks seem to think that only the government can tell you what's safe and what's not.   Do you really think there would be no watchdogs on things?    Is it really in a business' interest to sell products that kill their customers?   Would you personally do that if you owned a business?   Really, this fear that everyone will die if the government isn't doing something is what is bat-shit crazy.

Absolutely not, but the checks and balances have to make sense...letting lawsuits and fear of loss be one of those seems a little off kilter, to say the least...and businesses will be HAPPY to sell something that kills customers if the profit is high enough.

[S.P. Rodriguez]

Absolutely not, but the checks and balances have to make sense...letting lawsuits and fear of loss be one of those seems a little off kilter, to say the least...and businesses will be HAPPY to sell something that kills customers if the profit is high enough.

you should add... and then place responsibility on you, the consumer because, without an FDA/EPA, we should assume there's an implied risk in all products purchased for consumption.  After all, if risks/dangers were identifiable and preventable the government would have an agency to enforce such standards, right?  Oh... wait....

[Limey]

You folks seem to think that only the government can tell you what's safe and what's not.   Do you really think there would be no watchdogs on things?    Is it really in a business' interest to sell products that kill their customers?   Would you personally do that if you owned a business?   Really, this fear that everyone will die if the government isn't doing something is what is bat-shit crazy.

I'm not saying that at all.  This is the classic mis-direct on this type of topic.  I'm saying that a centralised body - that is responsible only to "the people" - is a better bet for certain jobs than having a profit-motivated private entity or entities do it.  If nothing else, the profit margin is going to be an incremental cost increase that's passed on to the consumer.

Do you like your fire department?  Would you like to go back to the days prior to a publicly run fire service, where you had your insurance company's fire mark on the outside of your house and, if the service that responded to your 911 call wasn't one under contract to your insurer, they'd let the motherfucker burn?

And if you think that no one has anything to fear because people are basically good and will do right by all, then you're deluding yourself.  Enron is the poster-child for what happens when a corporation gets overtaken by personal greed - just be thankful they made shitty power plants and not shitty water-treatment plants.  Or how about KBR, whose negligent job of wiring for installations in Iraq has electrocuted a dozen soldiers to date.

The parents of #12 are suing KBR.  I'm sure Ron Paul approves.

A times B times C equals X...

[Limey]

I think there are enough examples in our past to indicate that it's not always a good idea to expect companies/industries to police themselves. And while in theory it's not necessary that the government have that watchdog role, in practice it seems that the most dangerous offenders are large enough that the government is the only entity with enough clout to make them change their ways.

It's not even that "corporations" are inherently "evil".  They're duty bound to maximise value for their shareholders, and that means turning the biggest profit possible.  If they can cut corners costs, they will and quite possibly, should.  I don't blame them for doing this; I work for one and am quite comfortable in doing so.

What's silly is projecting human altruism onto a legal entity whose sole purpose in existing is to maximise profit.

[sporadic]

You folks seem to think that only the government can tell you what's safe and what's not.   Do you really think there would be no watchdogs on things?    Is it really in a business' interest to sell products that kill their customers?   Would you personally do that if you owned a business?   Really, this fear that everyone will die if the government isn't doing something is what is bat-shit crazy.

There is one thing I agree with...I am for any post that has the term bat-shit crazy in it.  Just makes me smile.  Every time.

[MRaup]

So, from that point of view, 2/3ds is about right since that's about the population of crazies in Austin.   Here in Iowa, the Ron Paul supporters are sane, respectful and articulate so your mileage may vary.

Actually, ALL of Ron Paul's supporters that I've EVER met in Austin were completely insane, so its a high percentage even for Austin.

[Limey]

You know, there are (or can be) other options and "crazy" isn't the result of every contrary position.

I agree.  However, I do think that deregulating food and drug safety (for example), and asking the courts to handle all the issues that will arise, is crazy.

[JimR]

So, from that point of view, 2/3ds is about right since that's about the population of crazies in Austin.   Here in Iowa, the Ron Paul supporters are sane, respectful and articulate so your mileage may vary.

hmmmm, let me guess who you support.

[Nate in IA]

Actually, ALL of Ron Paul's supporters that I've EVER met in Austin were completely insane, so its a high percentage even for Austin.

Insane, as in you'd like them to be incarcerated or insane as you disagreed with them?

[Nate in IA]

I agree.  However, I do think that deregulating food and drug safety (for example), and asking the courts to handle all the issues that will arise, is crazy.

Why?

[MusicMan]

If you really want to get pissed off, look up "Loose Change" on YouTube or Google.

Dear lowered, I tried watching that shit once.  Seldom has anything made me so angry.

[JimR]

i think this thread was about ARod.

Ron Paul is gone from the presidential political landscape, if he ever actually appeared there. there is no convincing evidence that he did.

back to ARod?

[Nate in IA]

hmmmm, let me guess who you support.

I support MLB with my (rapidly depreciating) dollars whenever possible.

[sporadic]

i think this thread was about ARod.

Ron Paul is gone from the presidential political landscape, if he ever actually appeared there. there is no convincing evidence that he did.

back to ARod?

...more importantly...why would a guy like him (attractive, rich, famous, etc) want a used up 50 year old pin-cushion when he can get almost any fine 20 yr old on the planet?

[geezerdonk]

back to ARod?

Arod or Rpau, my level of interest is the same, which is to say flat. Now if the thread turns to Yvette or Shiner - you have my attention.

[MRaup]

Insane, as in you'd like them to be incarcerated or insane as you disagreed with them?

A little bit from column A, a little bit from column B.

[Gizzmonic]

...more importantly...why would a guy like him (attractive, rich, famous, etc) want a used up 50 year old pin-cushion when he can get almost any fine 20 yr old on the planet?

A-Rod joined some pretty elite company Monday night.
 
Warren Beatty, Sean Penn, Guy Ritchie, Marky Mark...

[sporadic]

A-Rod joined some pretty elite company Monday night.
 
Warren Beatty, Sean Penn, Guy Ritchie, Marky Mark...

probably along with...

random sound guy, random lighting guy, random front-row fan, random Venusuelan 14 year old...you get the point

[Limey]

Why?

Because people will get sick and/or die and the courts will clog up with subsequent lawsuits.  All of which will increase the cost of food and insurance, while the taxpayers foot the bill for all the judges etc.

[Limey]

A-Rod joined some pretty elite company Monday night.
 
Warren Beatty, Sean Penn, Guy Ritchie, Marky Mark...

...the United States Marine Corps, the Detroit Tigers, Pistons and Red Wings...

[MusicMan]

...the United States Marine Corps, the Detroit Tigers, Pistons and Red Wings...

Los Angeles...

[Limey]

Los Angeles...

...County

[Gizzmonic]

And, he also hit number 536, which; coincidentally, was the number of sexual partners Madonna has had so far in July.

[matadorph]

Why?

Your question was kinda answered about seventy five years ago when FDR faced off against the Nine Old Men. There is no guarantee that the courts will redress wrongs.

Administrative agencies are undeniably imperfect and inefficient, but we'd be far worse off without the administrative agencies Ron Paul wants to eliminate. Besides, what would we do with all those administrative lawyers?

[Ron Brand]

Actually, ALL of Ron Paul's supporters that I've EVER met in Austin were completely insane, so its a high percentage even for Austin.

I could never understand how so many people in and around Austin could be so enamored of Ron Paul.  Bunches of them are techies, people whom you'd think might get out and read a little bit, but I guess I'm way off.

[Houston]

I could never understand how so many people in and around Austin could be so enamored of Ron Paul.  Bunches of them are techies, people whom you'd think might get out and read a little bit, but I guess I'm way off.

Consider that in 2000 got about 10% in Travis County when he received 3-4% nationwide that election year.

[S.P. Rodriguez]

I could never understand how so many people in and around Austin could be so enamored of Ron Paul.  Bunches of them are techies, people whom you'd think might get out and read a little bit, but I guess I'm way off.

As one of those techies, I have to ask, what on earth made you think that was the case?  Seriously, most people I work with can't be bothered to read anything not sci-fi, fantasy, or technical in between the time dedicated to viewing episodes of Star Trek (and I mean every incarnation of the series). 

[Ron Brand]

As one of those techies, I have to ask, what on earth made you think that was the case?  Seriously, most people I work with can't be bothered to read anything not sci-fi, fantasy, or technical in between the time dedicated to viewing episodes of Star Trek (and I mean every incarnation of the series). 

Most of the ones I work with are either reading something in Chinese that I can't understand, some kind of South American historical book, crime novels or right-wing political stuff.  There's definitely some Star Trek in there too, and they have the social skills all techies possess, but for the most part the ones I know or work with do read more than what you encounter.  I have no idea why it's different.

[Limey]

Administrative agencies are undeniably imperfect and inefficient, but we'd be far worse off without the administrative agencies Ron Paul wants to eliminate. Besides, what would we do with all those administrative lawyers?

[Cheney]  Quail Hunt!!!! [/Cheney]

[chuck]

A-Rod joined some pretty elite company Monday night.
 
Warren Beatty, Sean Penn, Guy Ritchie, Marky Mark...

Don't forget Sam Cassell.

[The Third Man]

Don't forget Sam Cassell.

Score one for Madonna...she's going for dicks from other galaxies...when you throw Sandra Bernhardt she's got all forms of masculinity covered! Madonna hooking up with 2/3rds of the earth's (and beyond) DNA doesn't bother me so much as that fake English accent she's been working for the last few years. Fucking is pleasurable, after all. 

[Gizzmonic]

I don't know why; maybe it's because I haven't had my coffee yet, but I am compelled to nominate this as POTW.  I think it's the strong closing sentence.

Score one for Madonna...she's going for dicks from other galaxies...when you throw Sandra Bernhardt she's got all forms of masculinity covered! Madonna hooking up with 2/3rds of the earth's (and beyond) DNA doesn't bother me so much as that fake English accent she's been working for the last few years. Fucking is pleasurable, after all. 

[Nate in IA]

I could never understand how so many people in and around Austin could be so enamored of Ron Paul.  Bunches of them are techies, people whom you'd think might get out and read a little bit, but I guess I'm way off.

What should they be reading?

[Nate in IA]

Your question was kinda answered about seventy five years ago when FDR faced off against the Nine Old Men. There is no guarantee that the courts will redress wrongs.

Administrative agencies are undeniably imperfect and inefficient, but we'd be far worse off without the administrative agencies Ron Paul wants to eliminate. Besides, what would we do with all those administrative lawyers?

You assume that the Supreme Court is the court of last resort which it is not.   Further, have you considered the possibility of a market-driven court?   And why exactly would be worse off after eliminating administrative agencies?  What harm would occur for certain?

[hostros7]

What should they be reading?

Penthouse Letters.  The world would be a better place.

[Nate in IA]

A little bit from column A, a little bit from column B.

So, then you must be the paragon of virtue to unilaterally decide that, right?

[JimR]

So, then you must be the paragon of virtue to unilaterally decide that, right?

take this shit somewhere else.

[Nate in IA]

take this shit somewhere else.

You know what Jim, I'm just responding.  I don't care if you split this thread and put it where it belongs in Beer & Queso but you riding to the defense of your boy is just weak.  He's a big boy, he can handle himself.

[Gizzmonic]

You assume that the Supreme Court is the court of last resort which it is not.   Further, have you considered the possibility of a market-driven court?   And why exactly would be worse off after eliminating administrative agencies?  What harm would occur for certain?

Market-driven courts?  Even we weren't as shamelessly plutocratic as that!

Sincerely,

Robber Barons of the Nineteenth Century

[Limey]

Penthouse Letters.  The world would be a better place.

I've read about these things, but I never thought it would one day happen to me.  I was enjoying a discussion about baseball, when suddenly a bunch of nuts went berserk over Ron Paul...

[JimR]

You know what Jim, I'm just responding.  I don't care if you split this thread and put it where it belongs in Beer & Queso but you riding to the defense of your boy is just weak.  He's a big boy, he can handle himself.

i'm telling you to fuck off so he does not have to. he may be too polite to tell you to stick that "paragon of virtue" crack up your ass.

you are the one keeping this Ron Paul shit going. your candidate is dead. take this political crap off the baseball board and find somewhere who cares what you think.

[Andyzipp]

I Like Ike!

[Nate in IA]

i'm telling you to fuck off so he does not have to. he may be too polite to tell you to stick that "paragon of virtue" crack up your ass.

Ah, eruditeness on display.

you are the one keeping this Ron Paul shit going. your candidate is dead. take this political crap off the baseball board and find somewhere who cares what you think.

Au contraire.  I have not once mentioned Ron Paul's name until now.   I simply have asked a few questions.  Perhaps your ire would be better targeted toward those who thought they were being funny by slandering those they disagreed with.

Nonetheless, I am done.  Take your potshots at will.

[Noe]

I Like Ike!

Mike and Ike!  Hmmmmm....

[BUWebguy]

Hot Tamales >>>>>> Mike and Ike

[Noe]

Hot Tamales >>>>>> Mike and Ike

Being of Mexican decent, a candy product named "Hot Tamales" is hard to... ahum... swallow.  Don't get me wrong, not for political correctness sake, but because I love hot tamales and the idea of a candy taste is just plain wrong!  (even though there are such a thing as sweet tamales).

[austro]

Hot Tamales >>>>>> Mike and Ike

Ok, good, a new tangent: grossest guilty pleasure candy. Mine? Circus peanuts. Yes, the orange marshmallow things.

[BUWebguy]

Being of Mexican decent, a candy product named "Hot Tamales" is hard to... ahum... swallow.  Don't get me wrong, not for political correctness sake, but because I love hot tamales and the idea of a candy taste is just plain wrong!  (even though there are such a thing as sweet tamales).

No worries -- it's just cinnamon flavored.

[MRaup]

Au contraire.  I have not once mentioned Ron Paul's name until now.   I simply have asked a few questions.  Perhaps your ire would be better targeted toward those who thought they were being funny by slandering those they disagreed with.

Nonetheless, I am done.  Take your potshots at will.

1.) I don't need anyone to defend me. I can assure you that my dad isn't out to help me in any way, he just doesn't care about political bullshit.

2.) I never once slandered Ron Paul. My dislike lies entirely in Ron Paul Support community in Austin.

[Gizzmonic]

Ok, good, a new tangent: grossest guilty pleasure candy. Mine? Circus peanuts. Yes, the orange marshmallow things.

That's a good one.  Let's keep it going with this.

Don't know if it counts as candy, but I like to have one of those artificially flavored milks now and again.  The weirder the flavor, the better.  Orange, pineapple, banana, coconut, I've tried them all.

[Limey]

That's a good one.  Let's keep it going with this.

Don't know if it counts as candy, but I like to have one of those artificially flavored milks now and again.  The weirder the flavor, the better.  Orange, pineapple, banana, coconut, I've tried them all.

In the UK, flavours of crisps (chips) are all over the place.  My fav. was prawn cocktail.

[Reuben]

This is straying a bit from gross candy, but nevertheless addictive- I've been buying more and more dark-chocolate products; mostly dark-chocolate-covered raisins, but my girlfriend turned me on to to dark-covered graham crackers. Holy moly. I also just tried the new dark-covered Reese's, which hopefully stick around but they may just be a Batman tie-in.

[toddthebod]

That's a good one.  Let's keep it going with this.

Don't know if it counts as candy, but I like to have one of those artificially flavored milks now and again.  The weirder the flavor, the better.  Orange, pineapple, banana, coconut, I've tried them all.

I'm a sucker for green apple flavored sour sticks, although I hate the sugar residue it leaves on your hands.

[mihoba]

I am addicted to Tootsie Roll pops. I freakin' love those things.

Red Hots are addictive, too. Bit-o-Honey, those little peanut logs, lemon drops...

'My name is mihoba, and I'm a snackaholic.'

[austro]

This is straying a bit from gross candy, but nevertheless addictive- I've been buying more and more dark-chocolate products; mostly dark-chocolate-covered raisins, but my girlfriend turned me on to to dark-covered graham crackers. Holy moly. I also just tried the new dark-covered Reese's, which hopefully stick around but they may just be a Batman tie-in.

Dark chocolate improves just about anything. The dark chocolate M&M's are frighteningly addictive.

[Holly]

In the UK, flavours of crisps (chips) are all over the place.  My fav. was prawn cocktail.

I saw a bag in that flavor at a bakery across the street from the client in Woking this past January. Had to explain to my co-worker what a prawn is (she's from Baytown, but only knew "shrimp".) We never deigned to sample that bag. That's just gross

[Noe]

2.) I never once slandered Ron Paul. My dislike lies entirely in Ron Paul Support community in Austin.

re: Old Hippies who still don't bathe?  (sometimes called "poser Euros").

[Gizzmonic]

I'm a sucker for green apple flavored sour sticks, although I hate the sugar residue it leaves on your hands.

I used to love those, until I had a bologna sandwich that had gone bad along with the sour apple straws for lunch.  Those two tastes combined together, coming back up...UGH, I think I need to barf yet again.

[Noe]

I love Chocolate covered raisins.  My wife loves them too (gawd I love her!).  My children have strayed: one loves skittles (even though he dislikes the chocolate covered ones, distracts from the gooey skittles consistency).  The other is into Mike and Ikes of any kind.

[Ebby Calvin]

I love Chocolate covered raisins.  My wife loves them too (gawd I love her!).  My children have strayed: one loves skittles (even though he dislikes the chocolate covered ones, distracts from the gooey skittles consistency).  The other is into Mike and Ikes of any kind.

Chocolate-covered Skittles?  Really?  I had no idea these were out.  Might as well smother them in cheese while you're at it.
Ewwww.

[BUWebguy]

Old Hippies who still don't bathe?  (sometimes called "poser Euros").

I used to love those ...

Bad timing for consecutive posts.

[Nate in IA]

Peanut M&M's and Jolly Ranchers (any flavor but especially green apple).   I agree that those dark chocolate M&Ms are addictive but they sure are thirsty.

[Noe]

Chocolate-covered Skittles?  Really?  I had no idea these were out.  Might as well smother them in cheese while you're at it.
Ewwww.

Yup and Yup.  My son loves skittles candy, however the chocolate flavored ones left a lot to be desired for him.

[Duke]

I'm a sucker for green apple flavored sour sticks, although I hate the sugar residue it leaves on your hands.

Me too.  One draw back though, did you ever notice how your breath smells after you eat one?

[Andyzipp]

Spree.  I can't stop eating them once I start.

[Ty in Tampa]

Spree.  I can't stop eating them once I start.

Right. Until I'm sick to my stomach.

[Astroholic]

Right. Until I'm sick to my stomach.

Don't think I saw a link to this but, latest from the batshit crazies. 
(Warning: If you think Noe's post are long, don't read)
(Warning 2: Written by the leader of the batshit crazies himself)

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=115#more-115

[BatGirl]

strawberry blow pops
green apple if no strawberry...
always, always, always lik-em-aid

chocolate is a separate category
altogether
and reese's peanut butter anything
is like crack to me

[Limey]

Chocolate-covered Skittles?  Really?  I had no idea these were out.  Might as well smother them in cheese while you're at it.
Ewwww.

T.G.I. Friday's Executive Chef Recommends Booze-On-Meat-With-Cheese Thing

[Limey]

Don't think I saw a link to this but, latest from the batshit crazies. 
(Warning: If you think Noe's post are long, don't read)
(Warning 2: Written by the leader of the batshit crazies himself)

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=115#more-115

I would like to officially request that we merge the phrase "guns and butter" with the Megan Fox thread.

That is all.

[chuck]

strawberry blow pops
green apple if no strawberry...
always, always, always lik-em-aid

chocolate is a separate category
altogether
and reese's peanut butter anything
is like crack to me

Send this in to the Paris Review and I bet you $100 that it gets published.

[Gizzmonic]

Send this in to the Paris Review and I bet you $100 that it gets published.

It does have a strange e.e. cummings vibe to it, does it not?

[MusicMan]

Don't think I saw a link to this but, latest from the batshit crazies. 
(Warning: If you think Noe's post are long, don't read)
(Warning 2: Written by the leader of the batshit crazies himself)

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=115#more-115

I stopped here:

If modern technology had been used to promote the ideas of liberty, free markets, sound money and trade, it would have ushered in a new golden age—a globalism we could accept.

That is EXACTLY what has happened.  To reject that is to reject reality.

[subnuclear]

I stopped here:

That is EXACTLY what has happened.  To reject that is to reject reality.

Do we want to have political discussions on this board or not?

[Holly]

Do we want to have political discussions on this board or not?

Personally, no. Certainly not in THIS section of the board. Should be over floating in rancid beer and queso.

[toddthebod]

Dark chocolate improves just about anything. The dark chocolate M&M's are frighteningly addictive.

And don't you know, Dark Chocolate is good for you too!!!!  Something about Flavanoids, or Antioxidants, or Radical Free Agents or Electrolytes or something like that.

All I knows is that if you drink a lot of red wine and eat a lot of dark chocolate, you live forever.

[JimR]

And don't you know, Dark Chocolate is good for you too!!!!  Something about Flavanoids, or Antioxidants, or Radical Free Agents or Electrolytes or something like that.

All I knows is that if you drink a lot of red wine and eat a lot of dark chocolate, you live forever.

and if you meet a dentist at the AA meetings, you'll be set.

[toddthebod]

and if you meet a dentist at the AA meetings, you'll be set.

Jim.  You can't become an alcoholic from drinking wine.  I'm surprised you don't know that.

By the way, I forgot about blueberries.  So it's drink a lot of red wine, and eat a lot of dark chocolate and blueberries (or dark chocolate covered blueberries) and live forever.

[MusicMan]

Dark chocolate covered blueberries are freaking awesome.

[Taras Bulba]

Peeps.  I can easily knock out two boxes in one sitting.  Their moist, sugary softness reminds me of......baseball.

[BatGirl]

Send this in to the Paris Review and I bet you $100 that it gets published.

i'll take that bet
but you've gotta name it first

[MRaup]

Jim.  You can't become an alcoholic from drinking wine.  I'm surprised you don't know that.

So all those winos that I see drinking Thunderbird and Boones Farm aren't alcoholics? They just enough a nip now and then?

[MusicMan]

Boone's Farm is wine like Natty Light is beer.

[mihoba]

Boone's Farm is wine like Natty Light is beer.

Back when quantity was much more important than quality, a bottle or two of Snow Creek Berry hit the spot, and the chicks dug it.

From what I hear, I mean.

[geezerdonk]

Did Madonna and Wilt ever hook up?

[chuck]

i'll take that bet
but you've gotta name it first

No name needed. Leave it untitled. If it does not get published I donate $100 to a charity. If it does, you do. Are we on?

[MRaup]

Did Madonna and Wilt ever hook up?

"Dude, that chick is old!"

--Wilt

[BatGirl]

No name needed. Leave it untitled. If it does not get published I donate $100 to a charity. If it does, you do. Are we on?

you're on!

[UpTooLate]

Limey, after reading this thread I now have a greater appreciation for your signature : "My brain hurts".

Since I'm here and we're talking about shit we probably shouldn't consume, lemme toss in my bid.  Picked up a twelve pack of Canada Dry Green Tea Ginger Ale.  Totally addicted now.  Like Green Tea?  Like Ginger Ale?  If so, this stuff is the fucking bomb.  Sorry, no alcohol for those so inclined (most of the board, but hey, I suppose you could add some), but it does have 35g of sugar and 100% RDA of Vitamin-C.  Ooops.  Mucho sorry.  That RDA was probably established by a government agency.  Guess I'll have to pour out the remaining cans.

I'm pretty much a small government, conservative, Republican inclined guy, but c'mon, there are some agencies that do some good.  Personally, I prefer not to get food poisoning.  Call me crazy, thats just me.  If you live in Houston, then you live in one of the safest cities to eat out.  Why?  Because the Harris County agency that polices restaurants is one of the strictest in the country.  Restaurant managers hate them, but there is a strong correlation to restaurant employees wearing hair nets, washing hands, and storing food at proper temperatures due to the pressure placed on them by the county.  If these simple but essential tasks are left to the restaurant managers to do the "right thing" then prepare to hug the toilet.

On the Madonna subject, I for one have not had my turn.  Starting to feel left out.  Maybe I could just use one of those full body condoms like Leslie Neilson and Precilla Presley used in the original Airplane.  Based on this thread I'm beginning to think that everybody giving each other high-fives is a member of the "yeah, I did her club".  Gotta admit that a "I porked Madonna" story would be fun to tell at the local pub unless everybody there has already been there done that.

In closing, A-Rod isn't so much a slut as an unpatriotic dumbass.  I don't care that he lives in Puerto Rico or wherever, the USA is where he makes his millions so show some respect.  I'm quite sure that many of the pristine MLB players are not faithful to their wives, especially on the road.  At least they're smart enough to be discreet.  A-Rod$$$ is out of his mind if he is sowing his oats with some rode-hard-put-away-wet has been, instead of some young hottie that can be bought/persuaded to keep her pie hole shut.  I believe this was mentioned earlier but it's a valid point.

[Andyzipp]

Maybe I could just use one of those full body condoms like Leslie Neilson and Precilla Presley used in the original Airplane. 

Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!...Priscilla Presley wasn't in Airplane! Neilson was Dr. Rumack.  He told the story of George Zipp.

[UpTooLate]

Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!...Priscilla Presley wasn't in Airplane! Neilson was Dr. Rumack.  He told the story of George Zipp.

<red faced> I stand corrected sir <red faced>.  Ah hell, it was late and with all the INSANE partying going on at UTL's house, it's amazing that made it to the keyboard <sarcasm meter>.

[Lefty]

I got a friend whose goal in life
Was to one day go down on Madonna
That's all he wanted, that was all
To one day go down on Madonna
And when my friend was thirty-four
He got his wish in Rome one night
He got to go down on Madonna
In Rome one night in some hotel
And ever since he's been depressed
'Cause life is shit from here on in
And all our friends just shake their heads
And say, "Too soon, too soon, too soon,
He went down on Madonna too soon
Too young, too young, too soon, too soon"