Author Topic: The new site (Read 18498 times)

David in Jackson · « **on:** March 31, 2008, 08:18:40 am »

Monday morning, before my first cup of coffee, and changes?

Seriously, as a regular reader and poster on this site for ten years (or what is commonly known as teh Eusbeio chew-off years), I apprecaite what the inner circles of lunatics does to keep this board alive and McGyver-like dodge death again.

Phil_in_CS · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2008, 08:32:44 am »

My thanks to the admins and sponsors of this place.

Taras Bulba · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2008, 08:38:34 am »

Indeed. This site does not just magically appear--it takes a lot of work and expense from some good folks who never claim credit. Well done, boys.

astrofan · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:04:07 am »

what are the plans for NYCU?

Noe · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:05:14 am »

Quote from: astrofan on March 31, 2008, 09:04:07 am

what are the plans for NYCU?

Click on the banner at the top or simply type in the URL: www.spikesnstars.com

Noe · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:06:58 am »

Quote from: Noe in Austin on March 31, 2008, 09:05:14 am

Click on the banner at the top or simply type in the URL: www.spikesnstars.com

Oops... just noticed that pravata did not port over his NYCU. We'll get back to you on that one.

Noe · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:10:15 am »

Quote from: Noe in Austin on March 31, 2008, 09:06:58 am

Oops... just noticed that pravata did not port over his NYCU. We'll get back to you on that one.

NYCU is back up as a forum, we will port it over to the main site later.

Tralfaz · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:10:44 am »

Opening day and all this OWA craziness. I feel like a kid on Christmas. Thank you to all involved for the hard work that goes into keeping this site one of the best out there.

Cheers and RO RASROS!

Waldo · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:21:17 am »

Quote from: Tralfaz on March 31, 2008, 09:10:44 am

Opening day and all this OWA craziness.

What is this 'OWA' you speak of?

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:24:12 am »

SnS, man. SnS!

TheWizard · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:34:24 am »

New site looks outstanding. Great job.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:36:35 am »

Are we gonna get a story on the name change? Site looks great, thanks to all involved for the hard work.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:38:15 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on March 31, 2008, 09:36:35 am

Are we gonna get a story on the name change? Site looks great, thanks to all involved for the hard work.

Uhhh...

tbone421998 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:39:57 am »

Nice site as always. Thanks for all the hardwork everybody does to keep this the best Astros site bar none.

Bench · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:41:00 am »

Quote from: Ty in Tampa on March 31, 2008, 09:24:12 am

SnS, man. SnS!

Whoa whoa whoa. What happened to AC?

das · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:41:50 am »

Quote from: Ty in Tampa on March 31, 2008, 09:38:15 am

Uhhh...

I think he means the dodging death comment from DiJ up above.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:42:51 am »

Quote from: Ty in Tampa on March 31, 2008, 09:38:15 am

Uhhh...

Does that really explain why they changed names? Did the astros/mlb harass them about OWA and/or mudnblood? If so, this is getting a little ridiculous.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:44:04 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on March 31, 2008, 09:42:51 am

Does that really explain why they changed names? Did the astros/mlb harass them about OWA and/or mudnblood? If so, this is getting a little ridiculous.

Others can go into more depth about it but the PR pretty much covers it.

ValpoCory · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:45:26 am »

Great work admins. Thanks for all the effort you guys put into this..

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:48:06 am »

Quote from: Ty in Tampa on March 31, 2008, 09:44:04 am

Others can go into more depth about it but the PR pretty much covers it.

I must be getting dumber than usual. Is this what you are referring to:

Quote from: PR Statement

So why Spikes and Stars?

The Stars part is simple. We have extremely high opinions of ourselves. Extremely. High. Also, this is still the number one destination on the web for news, commentary and discussion about the Houston Astros. In the future, we hope to bring you even more of what you return here several times a day for.

The Spikes part is our attempt to mark our territory, so to speak, on your cyber-tree. We’re delivering this site high and hard (some of us more high than others). The attitude is unchanged and unwavering.

That kind of explains what the new name means, but not why you'd change it? I'm clearly missing something.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:51:15 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on March 31, 2008, 09:48:06 am

That kind of explains what the new name means, but not why you'd change it? I'm clearly missing something.

"Over the past several months, we the administrators of The Site Formerly Known as Orangewhoopass.com, have struggled with how best to go about growing the site, highlighting the incredible writing talent we have available to us, and delivering new features while maintaining everything you degenerates have come to expect from this little corner of the interwebs."

I'm not an admin so I'm not comfortable explaining what I know. It's best for me to let them do it. There was nothing sinister going on.

Andyzipp · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:52:20 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on March 31, 2008, 09:48:06 am

That kind of explains what the new name means, but not why you'd change it? I'm clearly missing something.

You're not missing anything. We're attempting to garner more mass appeal for our features. We'd like (for instance) the Bus Ride contributors to be able to approach one of the Astros minor league affiliates without being ignored or fired upon. The SnS name trumps OWA in that regard.

You're just paranoid if you think there's anything more clandestine than that to the change.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:53:23 am »

Quote from: Andyzipp on March 31, 2008, 09:52:20 am

You're not missing anything. We're attempting to garner more mass appeal for our features. We'd like (for instance) the Bus Ride contributors to be able to approach one of the Astros minor league affiliates without being ignored or fired upon. The SnS name trumps OWA in that regard.

You're just paranoid if you think there's anything more clandestine than that to the change.

Honestly, was just curious. Basically, it was to get whoopass out of the name to gain a bit more respectability? Makes sense.

Andyzipp · « **Reply #23 on:** March 31, 2008, 09:56:04 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on March 31, 2008, 09:53:23 am

Honestly, was just curious. Basically, it was to get whoopass out of the name to gain a bit more respectability? Makes sense.

Pretty much all it was. And it took us 18 months to agree on it after using OWA since late 2002/early 2003.

Fredia · « **Reply #24 on:** March 31, 2008, 10:06:35 am »

well whatever the name thank you for keeping it going. will be fun to explore and find all the bells and whistles.. and just think what a service you do keeping all of us posting on the best site.. Astros or not, on the web

Jacksonian · « **Reply #25 on:** March 31, 2008, 10:17:38 am »

Quote from: Andyzipp on March 31, 2008, 09:52:20 am

You're not missing anything. We're attempting to garner more mass appeal for our features. We'd like (for instance) the Bus Ride contributors to be able to approach one of the Astros minor league affiliates without being ignored or fired upon. The SnS name trumps OWA in that regard.

You're just paranoid if you think there's anything more clandestine than that to the change.

Are you saying I'm a big whiner?

Limey · « **Reply #26 on:** March 31, 2008, 10:27:22 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on March 31, 2008, 09:42:51 am

Does that really explain why they changed names? Did the astros/mlb harass them about OWA and/or mudnblood? If so, this is getting a little ridiculous.

Nothing sinister. No background shenanigans. No court orders (or threats thereof) flying around. Just a choice to revamp the place mostly to bring the original (non-TZ) content back up to the front like it was in the AC days. If nothing else, it is now abundantly clear that there's 10 years of archived material here. And, as the PR says, the exceptional coverage of the minors will be heavily showcased.

And for those who want to remain cocooned in a warm, comfy blanket of ignorance, one can also still just go direct to the TZ.

drew corleone · « **Reply #27 on:** March 31, 2008, 10:27:41 am »

Good stuff.

BudGirl · « **Reply #28 on:** March 31, 2008, 10:40:01 am »

Quote from: Limey on March 31, 2008, 10:27:22 am

And for those who want to remain cocooned in a warm, comfy blanket of ignorance, one can also still just go direct to the TZ.

You make it sound like that is a bad thing.

geezerdonk · « **Reply #29 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:14:19 am »

Much obliged to all involved.
Your efforts are greatly appreciated.

Astroholic · « **Reply #30 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:16:08 am »

Quote from: BudGirl on March 31, 2008, 10:40:01 am

You make it sound like that is a bad thing.

I almost had a heart attach when I read that OWA no longer exist. Thank God I took my Med.

homer · « **Reply #31 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:17:51 am »

Quote from: Astroholic on March 31, 2008, 11:16:08 am

I almost had a heart attach when I read that OWA no longer exist. Thank God I took my Med.

Too bad all the assholes from OWA found SnS so quickly.

Gizzmonic · « **Reply #32 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:18:06 am »

RESPECTIBILITY?

This site's going to have respectibility now? Between that and the stupid post filter, I have a feeling you won't be hearing much from me anymore...

Quote from: Andyzipp on March 31, 2008, 09:56:04 am

Pretty much all it was. And it took us 18 months to agree on it after using OWA since late 2002/early 2003.

Astroholic · « **Reply #33 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:19:46 am »

Quote from: homer on March 31, 2008, 11:17:51 am

Too bad all the assholes from OWA found SnS so quickly.

Thanks for letting me know how you really feel.

Lefty · « **Reply #34 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:20:45 am »

Are there plans to turn the comments on for the main page?

Jacksonian · « **Reply #35 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:23:40 am »

Quote from: Lefty on March 31, 2008, 11:20:45 am

Are there plans to turn the comments on for the main page?

What? TZ's not enough for you?

Waldo · « **Reply #36 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:28:13 am »

Quote from: Lefty on March 31, 2008, 11:20:45 am

Are there plans to turn the comments on for the main page?

No. It is our intent to provide a clear separation of content and discussion. We want the editorial content to stand (or fall, in some cases... I won't name names) on its own merit, without the inevitable "great article" or "you suck" comments visible directly underneath. Furthermore, it would degrade the importance of the TZ's role at SnS.

We will soon be linking directly to recent news and articles at the top of the forum to better integrate the two parts of the site.

remy · « **Reply #37 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:30:00 am »

Quote from: Andyzipp on March 31, 2008, 09:56:04 am

Pretty much all it was. And it took us 18 months to agree on it after using OWA since late 2002/early 2003.

What "chestercharge" ever up for consideration? I know you guys owned that domain at one point.

homer · « **Reply #38 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:33:37 am »

Quote from: Waldo on March 31, 2008, 11:28:13 am

We will soon be linking directly to recent news and articles at the top of the forum to better integrate the two parts of the site.

Cool.

BudGirl · « **Reply #39 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:34:29 am »

Quote from: remy on March 31, 2008, 11:30:00 am

What "chestercharge" ever up for consideration? I know you guys owned that domain at one point.

Does it matter? The site is now spikesnstars. Learn to love it.

Edited to make biz happy.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #40 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:36:00 am »

Quote from: BudGirl on March 31, 2008, 11:34:29 am

Does it matter? The site is now startsandspikes. Learn to love it.

Learn to spell it.

Ankh · « **Reply #41 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:48:31 am »

Quote from: Waldo on March 31, 2008, 11:28:13 am

No. It is our intent to provide a clear separation of content and discussion. We want the editorial content to stand (or fall, in some cases... I won't name names) on its own merit, without the inevitable "great article" or "you suck" comments visible directly underneath. Furthermore, it would degrade the importance of the TZ's role at SnS.

More likely, it would be a technical issue. The main page runs off a separate Content Management System than the TZ, and therefore probably has a different user database. Keeping those databases in sync is more trouble than it's worth.

gotta find the nefarious scheme somewhere in here...

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #42 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:50:23 am »

Last comment on the new site - was not going for Stars and Spikes intentionally avoiding the similarity? (Cause it does kind of have a ring to it).

Andyzipp · « **Reply #43 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:51:34 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on March 31, 2008, 11:50:23 am

Last comment on the new site - was not going for Stars and Spikes intentionally avoiding the similarity? (Cause it does kind of have a ring to it).

http://www.starsandspikes.com

remy · « **Reply #44 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:52:18 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on March 31, 2008, 11:50:23 am

Last comment on the new site - was not going for Stars and Spikes intentionally avoiding the similarity? (Cause it does kind of have a ring to it).

Already owned by some other douches apparently.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #45 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:53:42 am »

Quote from: Andyzipp on March 31, 2008, 11:51:34 am

http://www.starsandspikes.com

Ahh - gotcha. What a value add to the internet.

Noe · « **Reply #46 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:54:25 am »

Quote from: remy on March 31, 2008, 11:52:18 am

Already owned by some other douches apparently.

Golfers. (Really, we did a lot of hard work behind the scenes to wind up where we are today and set in motion the wonderful things we will implement in the next several months).

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #47 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:56:24 am »

Quote from: Noe in Austin on March 31, 2008, 11:54:25 am

Golfers.

"Kill all the golfers."

Lefty · « **Reply #48 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:57:46 am »

Quote from: Waldo on March 31, 2008, 11:28:13 am

No. It is our intent to provide a clear separation of content and discussion. We want the editorial content to stand (or fall, in some cases... I won't name names) on its own merit, without the inevitable "great article" or "you suck" comments visible directly underneath. Furthermore, it would degrade the importance of the TZ's role at SnS.

Excellent.

mihoba · « **Reply #49 on:** March 31, 2008, 11:58:33 am »

Quote from: Ty in Tampa on March 31, 2008, 11:56:24 am

"Kill all the golfers."

"We can do that; we don't even have to have a reason."

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #50 on:** March 31, 2008, 12:02:06 pm »

Quote from: mihoba on March 31, 2008, 11:58:33 am

"We can do that; we don't even have to have a reason."

"It's not my fault nobody can understand you."

drew corleone · « **Reply #51 on:** March 31, 2008, 12:04:24 pm »

Quote from: Astroholic on March 31, 2008, 11:16:08 am

I almost had a heart attach when I read that OWA no longer exist. Thank God I took my Med.

I did the same thing at first, thinking that I'd have to resort to Hornfans for Astros discussion. It was enough to make me shudder, momentarily...

jbm · « **Reply #52 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:01:33 pm »

Are the top 10 prospect reviews still available somewhere?

Noe · « **Reply #53 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:07:31 pm »

Quote from: jbm on March 31, 2008, 01:01:33 pm

Are the top 10 prospect reviews still available somewhere?

This is the new home of the The Bus Ride. Search the new Bus Ride locale to your hearts content. We will be modifying the new eZine format as we go along, so realize we ain't done yet, but where we are is damn plenty good 'nough for now!

Bench · « **Reply #54 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:09:27 pm »

Quote from: Noe in Austin on March 31, 2008, 01:07:31 pm

This is the new home of the The Bus Ride. Search the new Bus Ride locale to your hearts content. We will be modifying the new eZine format as we go along, so realize we ain't done yet, but where we are is damn plenty good 'nough for now!

Yes it is. Thanks for all the great hard work.

Lurch · « **Reply #55 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:11:37 pm »

Which one of you fuckers moved my cheese?!

Noe · « **Reply #56 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:12:20 pm »

Quote from: Bench on March 31, 2008, 01:09:27 pm

Yes it is. Thanks for all the great hard work.

It takes a village. We couldn't find one to help, so we relied on the moderators this time and damn if they didn't come through with flying colors! Who knew! Any way, we want you all to be very proud of your home and what we plan to do in the coming months should make all of you even more proud.

Stay tuned..

jbm · « **Reply #57 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:39:15 pm »

Quote from: Lurch on March 31, 2008, 01:11:37 pm

Which one of you fuckers moved my cheese?!

Someone just mentioned that book to me last week. That quote describes me well.

Thanks for all y'all do. Not bitching, just wondering.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #58 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:40:03 pm »

Thanks for all of the hard work, gentlemen (and Limey). The site looks great.

pots · « **Reply #59 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:53:55 pm »

Whoa. First reaction was: "Oh know, it went the way of BFT!"

Like the new site name. The other one had me nervous work folks would think the wrong thing:)

Great work guys!

Limey · « **Reply #60 on:** March 31, 2008, 02:57:12 pm »

Quote from: Noe in Austin on March 31, 2008, 01:12:20 pm

It takes a village. We couldn't find one to help, so we relied on the moderators this time and damn if they didn't come through with flying colors! Who knew! Any way, we want you all to be very proud of your home and what we plan to do in the coming months should make all of you even more proud.

Stay tuned..

Now. Everyone go clean up your room!

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #61 on:** March 31, 2008, 03:25:35 pm »

Thanks for the fine work and hospitality.

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #62 on:** March 31, 2008, 04:04:50 pm »

Am I the only one who had a hard time remembering their password? I am such an idiot. To the admins, sorry for all the password reset requests. Oddly enough, I never got the emails. Hmmmm, should I take that as a sign I wasn't "invited"?

p.s. Nice work on the site. While the name that shall not be named will always be special, I like the move and hope those of you who put so much work into the site will finally receive all the appreciation/recognition you deserve. Does this mean you might actually get a press pass?

drew corleone · « **Reply #63 on:** March 31, 2008, 04:11:35 pm »

Quote from: S.P. Rodriguez on March 31, 2008, 04:04:50 pm

Does this mean you might actually get a press pass?

Only if Mark Cuban is handling Astros media inquiries.

Curly · « **Reply #64 on:** March 31, 2008, 04:16:02 pm »

So I got to shake the hand of His Clarkness and Luis Pujols Saturday at the Express/Hooks game, and now this!!!! I gotta get me a lotto ticket!

Side bar, I told Luis he needed to let his hair grow back out...pointed back at me "as soon as you do"!

das · « **Reply #65 on:** March 31, 2008, 04:28:26 pm »

Quote from: Curly on March 31, 2008, 04:16:02 pm

So I got to shake the hand of His Clarkness and Luis Pujols Saturday at the Express/Hooks game, and now this!!!! I gotta get me a lotto ticket!

Side bar, I told Luis he needed to let his hair grow back out...pointed back at me "as soon as you do"!

Did you tell Clark to go check out the glossary on this site? That would have takens some gonabes.

Curly · « **Reply #66 on:** March 31, 2008, 04:33:59 pm »

Quote from: das on March 31, 2008, 04:28:26 pm

Did you tell Clark to go check out the glossary on this site? That would have takens some gonabes.

Left it at folk hero.

Andyzipp · « **Reply #67 on:** March 31, 2008, 04:40:07 pm »

Quote from: das on March 31, 2008, 04:28:26 pm

Did you tell Clark to go check out the glossary on this site? That would have takens some gonabes.

Clark: 1) (also Clarkish, Clarkworthy, Dave, etc.) descriptive, sarcastic term coined by TZ legend Andyzipp in a now-famous take which serves to strongly emphasize any extraordinary, fantastic or above average feat. (ex. "Biggio stealing third in that situation was absolutely Clark.")

What is negative about that?

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #68 on:** March 31, 2008, 04:41:43 pm »

Clark knows he's Clark.

Javier de Jesus Ortiz · « **Reply #69 on:** March 31, 2008, 05:05:13 pm »

I've been lurking since Kev & Scott's Astrosconnection, and I've finally been compelled to post. Being my first post, I'm a little worried I'm going to get my ass handed to me, but I promised myself I wouldn't be a pussy like my dad said I would be. Honestly, I really don't know what makes a good first post, I've seen plenty of them. Initially, I planned on posting a mock help wanted ad asking for prospective pitchers to call the Astros human resources department. Unfortunately, I was beaten to the punch. Unlike most clarks, I am going to stay away from the standard unprovoked and unwarranted burn on Coach Jim. I'll embrace my clarkness, I guess. I've decided to post because I want to give some kudos to the staff here on a job well done with the new site. It looks really good and I look forward to all the new changes coming up. Anyway, fire at will. Go Astros.

MusicMan · « **Reply #70 on:** March 31, 2008, 05:10:25 pm »

"The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them."

pravata · « **Reply #71 on:** March 31, 2008, 05:23:24 pm »

Quote from: Javier de Jesus Ortiz on March 31, 2008, 05:05:13 pm

...Anyway, fire at will. Go Astros.

Welcome, but understand, you are not the story. The Game is. No one really cares whether you're a pussy or not. Watch the games and tell us your impressions and you'll have nothing at all to worry about.

MRaup · « **Reply #72 on:** March 31, 2008, 05:32:18 pm »

Quote from: pravata on March 31, 2008, 05:23:24 pm

Welcome, but understand, you are not the story. The Game is. No one really cares whether you're a pussy or not. Watch the games and tell us your impressions and you'll have nothing at all to worry about.

As long as your impressions don't suck...

Astroholic · « **Reply #73 on:** March 31, 2008, 05:49:02 pm »

Quote from: Javier de Jesus Ortiz on March 31, 2008, 05:05:13 pm

I've been lurking since Kev & Scott's Astrosconnection, and I've finally been compelled to post. Being my first post, I'm a little worried I'm going to get my ass handed to me, but I promised myself I wouldn't be a pussy like my dad said I would be. Honestly, I really don't know what makes a good first post, I've seen plenty of them. Initially, I planned on posting a mock help wanted ad asking for prospective pitchers to call the Astros human resources department. Unfortunately, I was beaten to the punch. Unlike most clarks, I am going to stay away from the standard unprovoked and unwarranted burn on Coach Jim. I'll embrace my clarkness, I guess. I've decided to post because I want to give some kudos to the staff here on a job well done with the new site. It looks really good and I look forward to all the new changes coming up. Anyway, fire at will. Go Astros.

With a user name like that, how could you fail. Are you releated to Jose? You wouldnt happen to be on a secret special assignment would you?

strosrays · « **Reply #74 on:** March 31, 2008, 05:49:42 pm »

Quote from: pravata on March 31, 2008, 05:23:24 pm

Welcome, but understand, you are not the story. The Game is. No one really cares whether you're a pussy or not. Watch the games and tell us your impressions and you'll have nothing at all to worry about.

And we don't give a fuck about how you do on standardized tests, either.

Beyond that, I believe we are famously lenient.

austro · « **Reply #75 on:** March 31, 2008, 05:54:29 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on March 31, 2008, 05:10:25 pm

"The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them."

"The lion may lie down with the lamb, but the lamb won't get much sleep."

Guinness · « **Reply #76 on:** April 01, 2008, 07:57:51 am »

Is this like Michael Corleone trying to go legit? Do I have to wear a tie now?

David in Jackson · « **Reply #77 on:** April 01, 2008, 08:17:28 am »

Quote from: Guinness on April 01, 2008, 07:57:51 am

Is this like Michael Corleone trying to go legit? Do I have to wear a tie now?

Every time I think I'm out....

JGrave · « **Reply #78 on:** April 01, 2008, 09:11:05 am »

Meh, I don't really care for it.

Andyzipp · « **Reply #79 on:** April 01, 2008, 09:11:50 am »

Quote from: JGrave on April 01, 2008, 09:11:05 am

Meh, I don't really care for it.

Frunkis?

JGrave · « **Reply #80 on:** April 01, 2008, 09:17:35 am »

Quote from: Andyzipp on April 01, 2008, 09:11:50 am

Frunkis?

Someone had to.

All the love was making me queasy. I come here to read the negative Jim R comments and the scrapping.

Good work as usual Choades. Keep it up.

BUWebguy · « **Reply #81 on:** April 01, 2008, 04:17:28 pm »

If suggestions are in order, I'll put in a vote to ditch the Beer and Queso forum and just combine it back with the regular TZ. It makes sense, logically, but it just seems too odd to have those other topics relegated to what feels like a sub-tier board of their own. I don't know jack about beer or Freda's cats, but it just doesn't seem like the TZ without those sorts of topics liberally sprinkled through.

JimR · « **Reply #82 on:** April 01, 2008, 04:20:00 pm »

Quote from: BUWebguy on April 01, 2008, 04:17:28 pm

If suggestions are in order, I'll put in a vote to ditch the Beer and Queso forum and just combine it back with the regular TZ. It makes sense, logically, but it just seems too odd to have those other topics relegated to what feels like a sub-tier board of their own. I don't know jack about beer or Freda's cats, but it just doesn't seem like the TZ without those sorts of topics liberally sprinkled through.

second the motion

Bench · « **Reply #83 on:** April 01, 2008, 04:35:03 pm »

Quote from: JimR on April 01, 2008, 04:20:00 pm

second the motion

Third. It is very difficult to use. Interrupts the flow and all that.

Curly · « **Reply #84 on:** April 01, 2008, 04:35:36 pm »

I motion for a forum for buying/selling tickets/memorabilia

MusicMan · « **Reply #85 on:** April 01, 2008, 04:38:06 pm »

Quote from: Curly on April 01, 2008, 04:35:36 pm

I motion for a forum for buying/selling tickets/memorabilia

I sense a quick veto on this.

Curly · « **Reply #86 on:** April 01, 2008, 04:39:42 pm »

Veto is a pussy!

Andyzipp · « **Reply #87 on:** April 01, 2008, 04:41:42 pm »

Quote from: Curly on April 01, 2008, 04:39:42 pm

Veto is a pussy!

His name was Vinny, not Veto.

JackAstro · « **Reply #88 on:** April 01, 2008, 04:42:03 pm »

Quote from: Bench on April 01, 2008, 04:35:03 pm

Third. It is very difficult to use. Interrupts the flow and all that.

4th. I certainly understand the intent, but I prefer not to hop back and forth between the forums. I've always enjoyed the fairly high BS to baseball ratio on the TZ, personally.

Lefty · « **Reply #89 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:32:22 pm »

Quote from: JackAstro on April 01, 2008, 04:42:03 pm

4th. I certainly understand the intent, but I prefer not to hop back and forth between the forums. I've always enjoyed the fairly high BS to baseball ratio on the TZ, personally.

Concur.

And on a much, much more trivial note, any way we could get a little SnS unique icon for our bookmarks & tabs? Makes it easier to spot it at a glance.

Noe · « **Reply #90 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:41:28 pm »

This whole thing is very strange to me as an admin. This was done as a reaction to member's request. Is that too hard to understand people? I'm not going against an agreed upon change by the admin group, so I suggest you drop it immediately or PM admins with your concerns.

thank you, I'm not upset, just don't understand why there is confusion about this move and why it is made a public reaction when you all know you can go to private means to PM any one of five admins to get the information you desire.

JackAstro · « **Reply #91 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:53:03 pm »

Quote from: Noe in Austin on April 01, 2008, 05:41:28 pm

This whole thing is very strange to me as an admin. This was done as a reaction to member's request. Is that too hard to understand people? I'm not going against an agreed upon change by the admin group, so I suggest you drop it immediately or PM admins with your concerns.

thank you, I'm not upset, just don't understand why there is confusion about this move and why it is made a public reaction when you all know you can go to private means to PM any one of five admins to get the information you desire.

Not trying to piss in anyone's Cheerios, just throwing my two cents into what I thought was a public commentary. I'll stick to PM.

Noe · « **Reply #92 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:57:20 pm »

Quote from: JackAstro on April 01, 2008, 05:53:03 pm

Not trying to piss in anyone's Cheerios, just throwing my two cents into what I thought was a public commentary. I'll stick to PM.

Yes, but I have to defend my fellow admins as being much more than five of us sitting around with nothing better to do than to muck up the site. We do a lot to hear your voices, even the dissention expressed here. But do it the right way is all I'm asking. I'm actually violating my own desire to keep this from escalating by talking about it publically, but perhaps this will be a good thing to do right now and end it as the method we, the admins of the site, prefer if you have a burning desire to effect change here.

Lefty · « **Reply #93 on:** April 01, 2008, 06:04:04 pm »

Sorry, Noe, and understood.

Noe · « **Reply #94 on:** April 01, 2008, 06:08:09 pm »

Quote from: Lefty on April 01, 2008, 06:04:04 pm

Sorry, Noe, and understood.

I blame Dayquill if I'm sounding a little on edge, which not my intention. I just admire the people working hard as admins and when this decision was reached, it had it's give and take and when reached consensus, we exhausted everything. In the end, we went with what we have and if it doesn't work out, we'll change it because I have a feeling we will hear about it privately over and over again about our mistake. That to me is fair, but on the second day? In public?

Come on, have respect for the admins at least to take this to a private means of communicating second day reactions at minimum.

jonbloozy · « **Reply #95 on:** April 01, 2008, 08:07:54 pm »

Just wanted to take a second to offer my long-winded opinion:

Started out yesterday so excited for the game. I'm a Texas transplant originally from San Diego (so I may be aloof and a little laid back). Set up my Time Warner DVR to record both channels it said the game was on (in San Antonio). I spent way too much time at work looking at the new site and had to stay late to finish up. I didn't sit down to watch the game until about 9:45. To my dismay, the DVR decided not to record my Astros. Can't tell you dissapointment in not being able to see the first few innings of the new-look team. Luckily, I was able to watch the remainder of the game on another TV.

Fortunately, I had discovered there was a place online for honest Astros commentary without most of the "lesser" characteristics of other message boards (IE, no FLIRT threads). From the in-depth PBP from OregonStrosFan to the color commentary from other posters; pertinent news from Pravata, Duman and Jacksonian on the Minors--this board has a lot going for it. The Admins have pulled off the transition seamlessly. I appreciate all the hard work that goes into keeping this site functional.

I missed the first few innings, but was able to catch up thanks to the GameZone.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE!

Bench · « **Reply #96 on:** April 01, 2008, 09:10:39 pm »

Noe, what's a FLIRT thread?

Noe · « **Reply #97 on:** April 01, 2008, 09:30:26 pm »

Quote from: Bench on April 01, 2008, 09:10:39 pm

Noe, what's a FLIRT thread?

Dunno zactly, but I'm now very interested to find out! Might involve rub girls!!!

Bench · « **Reply #98 on:** April 01, 2008, 09:37:55 pm »

Quote from: Noe in Austin on April 01, 2008, 09:30:26 pm

Dunno zactly, but I'm now very interested to find out! Might involve rub girls!!!

I figured fredia's cat size sex post over in Beer and Queso would have been close.

That is one of the most nonsensical sentences I've ever written that actually makes sense.

Outlawscotty · « **Reply #99 on:** April 02, 2008, 07:31:49 am »

To go ahead and purchase my acre in Alaska, I'll say IMO, and I'm not the member who came up with the suggestion BTW, that the beer threads were cool in the TZ. A suggestion I would have would be in addition to the 'Friday beer thread' thing in the TZ, there could be a running beer thread, or glossary if you will, containing ratings and suggestions from SnS beer connoisseurs. Then, maybe a run-down of the best places to eat queso/drink beer/watch game in the Houston/Austin/SA areas, again from SnS members' perspective. This would be my ultimate version of the Beer and Queso forum/whatever. Other NBB topics are really fine wherever, as long as they are clearly marked NBB or maybe even NBQ. Then again, I am nobody afterall.

Phil_in_CS · « **Reply #100 on:** April 02, 2008, 10:18:29 am »

On a more practical matter, thanks for setting up RSS for the main news feed. Can we get that for NYCU as well?

Duman · « **Reply #101 on:** April 02, 2008, 10:19:28 am »

I am enjoying the RSS feature as well.

Andyzipp · « **Reply #102 on:** April 02, 2008, 10:20:30 am »

What is the addy for the RSS? I can't access the Front end from work, and I want to see if I can get around that with the rss feed.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #103 on:** April 02, 2008, 10:21:42 am »

http://www.spikesnstars.com/feed/

Noe · « **Reply #104 on:** April 02, 2008, 10:25:07 am »

Quote from: outlawscotty on April 02, 2008, 07:31:49 am

To go ahead and purchase my acre in Alaska, I'll say IMO, and I'm not the member who came up with the suggestion BTW, that the beer threads were cool in the TZ. A suggestion I would have would be in addition to the 'Friday beer thread' thing in the TZ, there could be a running beer thread, or glossary if you will, containing ratings and suggestions from SnS beer connoisseurs. Then, maybe a run-down of the best places to eat queso/drink beer/watch game in the Houston/Austin/SA areas, again from SnS members' perspective. This would be my ultimate version of the Beer and Queso forum/whatever. Other NBB topics are really fine wherever, as long as they are clearly marked NBB or maybe even NBQ. Then again, I am nobody afterall.

Seriously folks, can Andy and I be any *more* clearer than we have been about the new forum? This has got to be the funniest and saddest thread in the history of the TZ because you guys are much more smarter than this to have to make me repeat over and over and over again the same damn thing for the same damn reason:

1. The new forum stays until we (the admins) say it does not. Use it however you wish within the boundaries set loosely by our announcement. (Spack will patrol all forums).
2. We (the admins) were not the ones who came up with the idea, look around you... there is more than a handful of folks who are members.
3. No one is going to stop you from having Friday Beer Threads in the TZ! NOT ONE TIME WAS IT SAID THAT IS SHOULD CEASE IMMEDIATELY!!!!
4. Why is using private methods to communicate ideas about the forum not acceptable to some of you?

Don't make me wake up spack okay... he's been taking a long nap the last few days and no one wants the old buzzard to come in here with guns blazing to take care of some bidness that frankly I think he should.

Okay, are we done now explaining to you who are still unaware of what's going *IN PUBLIC WAYS*? Because I sure am and I am trying really hard to not just nuke post and send some folks into two week vacations because of it. End of this discussion in public, it saddens me that a good thing that is happening around here can be made a public display of admin hangman. Do so in private all you want, that is certainly okay... I'm not saying it again either.

Duman · « **Reply #105 on:** April 02, 2008, 10:32:45 am »

Some people just can't handle change

Noe · « **Reply #106 on:** April 02, 2008, 10:45:01 am »

Quote from: Duman on April 02, 2008, 10:32:45 am

Some people just can't handle change

I'm probably adding to the exasperation because I don't believe anyone means any harm. Seriously, I think everyone wants to help and I do appreciate it. So my suggestion is this when it comes to the Beer and Queso forum:

1. Line up your concerns and send PMs immediately to: Waldo, Noe, HudsonHawk, Arky Vaughn and Andyzipp.

2. We will listen if enough of you feel it was a huge mistake, because again, we debated this and there was give and take about the move that centered around the same issues being touched upon here.

3. Realize when you speak, you speak of your own concern and perhaps, perhaps, perhaps there are more than a handful of folks who would like the new forum to stay and will make that forum as viable a vehicle even if you personally never intend to use or read B&Q.

4. Some folks stay right here in the TZ and that is so awesome that it is that way for you, but we're not TZ.com.... we're spikesnstars.com and we offer much more than just the TZ. Those who love the TZ only, please, please, please keep on loving it and making it a great place. But don't think we're denegrating your palace when we make these moves. We're making moves that are viable for many people and the TZ will always be as good or great as you guys make it. It's not the topics, the forum nor the structure.... it's you that makes the TZ what it is. We never intend to censor *you* and handcuff you from having conversations about beer here if that is what you intend to do any way. If you can't find your way towards walking out of the TZ to explore other places here, fine... we appreciate and honor that. But you're not *all* the people.

Our motto from day one was this:

A fansite build by fans, run by fans for the fans. I'd like to think we live by that motto to be as much as we can be for *all* fans as we can.

Some of you are having some fears right now that are unfounded and unnecessary so you need to speak to us in private so we can assure you we're not going nuts around here with changes and will hurt your place of choice.

JimR · « **Reply #107 on:** April 02, 2008, 10:50:38 am »

Quote from: Noe in Austin on April 02, 2008, 10:25:07 am

Seriously folks, can Andy and I be any *more* clearer than we have been about the new forum? This has got to be the funniest and saddest thread in the history of the TZ because you guys are much more smarter than this to have to make me repeat over and over and over again the same damn thing for the same damn reason:

1. The new forum stays until we (the admins) say it does not. Use it however you wish within the boundaries set loosely by our announcement. (Spack will patrol all forums).
2. We (the admins) were not the ones who came up with the idea, look around you... there is more than a handful of folks who are members.
3. No one is going to stop you from having Friday Beer Threads in the TZ! NOT ONE TIME WAS IT SAID THAT IS SHOULD CEASE IMMEDIATELY!!!!
4. Why is using private methods to communicate ideas about the forum not acceptable to some of you?

Don't make me wake up spack okay... he's been taking a long nap the last few days and no one wants the old buzzard to come in here with guns blazing to take care of some bidness that frankly I think he should.

Okay, are we done now explaining to you who are still unaware of what's going *IN PUBLIC WAYS*? Because I sure am and I am trying really hard to not just nuke post and send some folks into two week vacations because of it. End of this discussion in public, it saddens me that a good thing that is happening around here can be made a public display of admin hangman. Do so in private all you want, that is certainly okay... I'm not saying it again either.

wow, was this warranted?

Noe · « **Reply #108 on:** April 02, 2008, 12:22:16 pm »

Quote from: JimR on April 02, 2008, 10:50:38 am

wow, was this warranted?

I no longer wish to discuss this in public. Private PM is okay though. thanks.

Noe · « **Reply #109 on:** April 02, 2008, 12:26:53 pm »

One last bit of public business for me: I owe outlawscotty an apology for using his input as my platform for directing the conversation where it should go. I was wrong and freely admit it painted him in the wrong light. For that, I am sorry an offer a very public "I really suck" admission to OS and hope he can accept my deepest regrets for having done this.

My bad, I won't even blame the dayquill any more, I was just plain wrong about highlighting OS, he is not to blame for my mistake.

Outlawscotty · « **Reply #110 on:** April 02, 2008, 12:31:09 pm »

We cool...now if you'll excuse me while I do some testing for the beer thread coming up on Friday.

Noe · « **Reply #111 on:** April 02, 2008, 12:34:26 pm »

Quote from: outlawscotty on April 02, 2008, 12:31:09 pm

We cool...now if you'll excuse me while I do some testing for the beer thread coming up on Friday.

DUDE! Ahum... carry on!

Ron Brand · « **Reply #112 on:** April 02, 2008, 09:41:53 pm »

Boy. Wake up and come back here after a couple of days and...

Really. I'm impressed. I appreciate the time and the work and the planning and I think it's fantastic. You guys did a great job!

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