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« on: August 24, 2007, 10:59:58 am »
Jason Lane's batting average, or the speed at which some plonker was clocked in Oxfordshire?
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2007, 11:18:08 am »
Limey, you're a negative bastard.  Now go post in the "Things I love" thread to offset this nonsense.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2007, 11:21:34 am »
man, when Noe snubbed him, Dobro went off the deep end.
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2007, 11:22:52 am »
Limey, you're a negative bastard.  Now go post in the "Things I love" thread to offset this nonsense.

Just posting facts.*

* Jason Lane actual BA currently stands at .177.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2007, 11:26:52 am »
Just posting facts.*

* Jason Lane actual BA currently stands at .177.
And it could drop to .00000000000077 and they would likely still keep him around. 
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2007, 11:28:17 am »
And it could drop to .77 and they would likely still keep him around. 

Holy shit, I wish we had a player hitting .77.  That guy is a sure fire hall-of-famer. 
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2007, 11:30:04 am »
Just posting facts.*

* Jason Lane actual BA currently stands at .177.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2007, 11:31:21 am »
They've schlepped his arse to RR and back more times than I can count.

They don't love him.

He's roster filler.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2007, 11:45:44 am »
They've schlepped his arse to RR and back more times than I can count.

They don't love him.

He's roster filler.

I think some will only be satisifed if the Astros euthanize him...
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2007, 11:48:23 am »
I think some will only be satisifed if the Astros euthanize him...

Let's speculate, he's out of options, officially and finally, so he's no good as a yo-yo for next season.  Likely he wont be offered a contract and he'll get work with the Dodgers.  At which point he'll begin tearing the cover off the ball.  This will lead to complaints that the Astros are no judge of talent.

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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2007, 11:48:35 am »
I think some will only be satisifed if the Astros euthanize him...

Man, I wish they would archive what Purpura said about Jason Lane.  A little bit of information for those who wish to live in fantasy island as per what the organization thinks would change the attitudes for sure.  Well maybe not the attitudes, but it would surely allow them to hear or read for themselves just how wrong they are about the supposed relationship between player and GM and/or coach.

Purpura said how he felt about Lane in terms of a being a major league player and it is very telling.  Sorry some of you are not paying attention.

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2007, 11:55:09 am »
Let's speculate, he's out of options, officially and finally, so he's no good as a yo-yo for next season.  Likely he wont be offered a contract and he'll get work with the Dodgers.  At which point he'll begin tearing the cover off the ball.  This will lead to complaints that the Astros are no judge of talent.

BINGO!  Purpura talked about Jason Lane and Morgan Ensberg.  It was because of an astute observation by Justice that the Astros are built as a team that relies on run production from third base and right field.  What Purpura said was what his job was in terms of the professional relationship he must have with these players.  He is literally with them from February until October almost 24/7.  It is a balancing act to keep the professional from the personal.  But he has to do it and right now, Lane has very little to show the team in terms of his professional status to allow him another chance.  Purpura spoke about him pretty much like Hunsicker spoke of Redding.  Same thing was pertinent with Ensberg.

But on the personal side, Purpura does like Ensberg and Lane for their integrity away from the game.  But that has nothing to do with what Purpura must do to put together this team.  Purpura was told in the offseason by veteran scouts on the team that Lane deserved one more chance because he had the potential to produce 25-30 homeruns and drive in a lot of runs.  Purpura then met with Lane and Jason asked for that one more shot to show what he could really do.  If Purpura is to be condemned for standing by Lane, the real condemnation should be that he (Purpura) listened to the men he has to trust so he can make the decisions on the team makeup and also for trusting the player to make good on that "one more shot".  So this is not to blame the scouts either, they did their job, Purpura did his, Lane did not.

It happens in major league baseball all the time.  Sadly, fans don't understand this or in some cases, refuse to acknowledge it because being miserable is something they love to do and be.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2007, 12:10:54 pm »
Purpura was told in the offseason by veteran scouts on the team that Lane deserved one more chance because he had the potential to produce 25-30 homeruns and drive in a lot of runs.

I think Fredia would make a better scout.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2007, 12:16:04 pm »
I think Fredia would make a better scout.

from Noe's post: "being miserable is something they love to do and be."

this appears to be you.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2007, 12:32:36 pm »
from Noe's post: "being miserable is something they love to do and be."

this appears to be you.

Sadly, it appears to be a ton of Astros fans and it baffles me.  But then again, I probably don't understand how winning is everything and of course how you win too is everything. You have to be perfect in winning or else your winning is tainted.  Happens all the time, read those who think the Rocket's championship years were all about the Bulls being without Michael Jordan.  I tell you, it's all about being miserable for some.

Ironically, I subscribe more to the John Wooden view on sports competition and that perhaps is why I don't understand the misery others find in following their favorite team.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2007, 12:47:32 pm »
I tell you, it's all about being miserable for some.
I with you, Noe; I don't understand this. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2007, 01:09:00 pm »
Man, I wish they would archive what Purpura said about Jason Lane.  A little bit of information for those who wish to live in fantasy island as per what the organization thinks would change the attitudes for sure.  Well maybe not the attitudes, but it would surely allow them to hear or read for themselves just how wrong they are about the supposed relationship between player and GM and/or coach.

Purpura said how he felt about Lane in terms of a being a major league player and it is very telling.  Sorry some of you are not paying attention.

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2007, 01:22:45 pm »
I don't think anyone thought going into the season that Jason Lane would be as bad as he's been.  Based on his past, I figured he easily had the potential to hit .225 and knock 10 to 12 homers and drive in 35 to 50 runs. I had no clue he'd suck so bad. It's like he's trying too hard or something.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2007, 03:29:31 pm »
For the record, I didn't start this thread to rag on Lane.  I only used him as a ruse to post a story about some nonce burning up a posh bit of Limeyland in a stolen Nazi sled.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2007, 03:46:47 pm »
what's a "plonker"?  Is it anything like a yob, a wanker, a sodden wanker, or a hooray henry?



Jason Lane's batting average, or the speed at which some plonker was clocked in Oxfordshire?
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2007, 03:52:19 pm »
For the record, I didn't start this thread to rag on Lane.  I only used him as a ruse to post a story about some nonce burning up a posh bit of Limeyland in a stolen Nazi sled.

Eggszactly.  Sadly, the audience out there today won't know the difference, they'll take it as an endorsement that vilification is always in order in such manners.  Sad.

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2007, 03:53:08 pm »
what's a "plonker"?  Is it anything like a yob, a wanker, a sodden wanker, or a hooray henry?




Jason Lane, even with his mostly abysmal season, still has an OPS around .800.  Why would you get rid of a guy, under club control and costing you only around $1,000,000.00 without giving him the benefit of another chance.

He got the chance and failed and they sent him to RR. He hit the ball well there and they brought him up as about plan D to play CF when all else fell apart, and he played an exceedingly competent CF when nobody else in the organization could. He promptly got shipped out again when the regular guy came off the disabled list. Why is this so hard to understand?  The astros rightly gave Lane another shot and he went back to CF only as an emergency and temporary stopgap.  Much ado about nothing imo.


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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2007, 04:01:58 pm »
what's a "plonker"?  Is it anything like a yob, a wanker, a sodden wanker, or a hooray henry?

Literally = penis, i.e. "dick".

"Plonker" was popularised as the safe-for-TV put down by Delboy Trotter of his younger brother Rodney in the classic Britcom "Only Fools and Horses".  The show had many memorable moments and was as famous for its emotional poignancy as it was for its comedy.  However, (if I've found the right link), this is the perhaps its signature moment.

ETA:  Got the moment I referenced for sure, thanks to my iPhone.
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2007, 04:02:54 pm »
Jason Lane's batting average, or the speed at which some plonker was clocked in Oxfordshire?

Lane needs to adjust his avg. to Kilometers.
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2007, 04:41:50 pm »
For the record, I didn't start this thread to rag on Lane.  I only used him as a ruse to post a story about some nonce burning up a posh bit of Limeyland in a stolen Nazi sled.

Listen pal, your intentions don't concern us in the least.  Pretty soon they'll be ferrets, badgers, daschunds, slinkys, everywhere. 

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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2007, 04:51:47 pm »
Listen pal, your intentions don't concern us in the least.  Pretty soon they'll be ferrets, badgers, daschunds, slinkys, everywhere. 

And beagles.  Don't forget the beagles.