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Justice, again
« on: July 09, 2007, 07:57:20 am »
Richard Justice in his blog of July 6th:  "Turns out Tim Purpura was right (in discussing Wandy). It's a day like this that makes me thankful this bright man is running our hardball team. In Tim we trust."

Richard Justice in his blog of July 8th: "Purpura did a wonderful job smoozing people high on the masthead in his quest for the job. He hasn't been nearly as good at doing the job." 


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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2007, 08:14:28 am »
Some say..."The blogs are not considered part of the actual Houston Chronicle. They are provided for the purposes of reader interaction and entertainment.  As such, they are places for our employees and subscribers to speculate and "rant" if you will; they are not held to the same journalistic standards as the actual paper.  Thanks for the inquiry."

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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2007, 09:33:09 am »
they are not held to the same journalistic standards as the actual paper. 

What, exactly, "journalistic standards" does the Comical hold itself to?
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2007, 09:36:36 am »
Some would say 'journalistic standards' would include not letting one of their 'journalists' 'rant', if you will, in an open forum.
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2007, 09:39:24 am »
Some would say 'journalistic standards' would include not letting one of their 'journalists' 'rant', if you will, in an open forum.

In an open forum on their news Web site.
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2007, 09:41:38 am »
Some would say 'journalistic standards' would include not letting one of their 'journalists' 'rant', if you will, in an open forum.

At reputable papers, reporters are held accountable for what they type.  In a blog, or published in the paper.

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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2007, 10:42:32 am »
At reputable papers, reporters are held accountable for what they type.  In a blog, or published in the paper.
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2007, 01:37:06 pm »
How about this doozy from RJ today.

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I'm not kidding. Drayton McLane knows fans are sick of Purpura and Garner. He probably knows that if he fired both of them, he'd be the most popular man in Houston.


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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2007, 01:46:30 pm »
I don't know that he's way off base.  Doing things to make the masses happy is pretty easy.  It's also rarely a good way to run your organization.
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2007, 02:18:33 pm »
I don't know that he's way off base.  Doing things to make the masses happy is pretty easy.  It's also rarely a good way to run your organization.

Agreed- based upon the chatter on talk radio and blogs (not here- call it the unwashed masses) Purp is the least popular man in town and Gar is not far behind him.

I'm undecided on Purp (I'm not gonna cry if he gets canned- I ain't gonna call for his head at this time either) but really like Gar.  Would hate to see him get scapegoated at this point in time.


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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2007, 02:23:19 pm »
Agreed- based upon the chatter on talk radio and blogs (not here- call it the unwashed masses) Purp is the least popular man in town and Gar is not far behind him.

I'm undecided on Purp (I'm not gonna cry if he gets canned- I ain't gonna call for his head at this time either) but really like Gar.  Would hate to see him get scapegoated at this point in time.

Careful who you cater to.  If this becomes his (Draytons) reputation, then no one of sound baseball acumen will ever want to work for and with him.  No one.

Funny though, that would be something for the media to hang on the man for years to come and say they had absolutely nothing to do with it too.  Wash your hands of the matter sort of thing.

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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2007, 02:26:33 pm »
Noe, dontchyaknow that journalists are independent observers and o not hange the outcome of events?

(Someone I'm sure will fill me in on the name of the theory that states you cannot observe anything without altering it.)
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2007, 02:28:35 pm »
I hear plenty of complaining about Tim, I just havent heard much clamoring for Gar to get canned.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2007, 02:59:02 pm »
Careful who you cater to.  If this becomes his (Draytons) reputation, then no one of sound baseball acumen will ever want to work for and with him.  No one.

Funny though, that would be something for the media to hang on the man for years to come and say they had absolutely nothing to do with it too.  Wash your hands of the matter sort of thing.

I'm saying I agree with justice that it would be popular, not that I think Drayton should do it.


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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2007, 03:10:45 pm »
Noe, dontchyaknow that journalists are independent observers and o not hange the outcome of events?

(Someone I'm sure will fill me in on the name of the theory that states you cannot observe anything without altering it.)

Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.  I have that in my backpocket to use in a recap to describe the calling of balls and strikes.

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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2007, 03:17:14 pm »
I'm curious how traditional print writers are compensated (or not) for their new blogs.  Anyone have insider knowledge about this?
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2007, 03:21:59 pm »
I'm curious how traditional print writers are compensated (or not) for their new blogs.  Anyone have insider knowledge about this?

Don't know about that, but I'd bet that the main paper (Chron or whatever) uses them to draw people to its website, and thus its "regular" content.
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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2007, 03:32:04 pm »
I'm saying I agree with justice that it would be popular, not that I think Drayton should do it.

I know.  I wasn't talking to you in particular, just to the very idea that Drayton McLane would can two baseball men based on popular demand from the great unwashed.  It would be akin to being voted off the island by the audience I guess.  Heck, if the Houston Astros are going to be the "reality show" version of the MLB, then why not make it a really fun show on FSN.

Have fans vote each week for the blunder of the week for Garner and then tally up the points.  If Scrap Iron reaches whatever arbitrary points that McLane decides is the benchmark for being fired, then he gets canned.  You, the fans, get to vote Garner off the bench.

In fact, call the reality show "Off The Bench!".  It would novel, fresh and oh so new!  It will also cause every major league baseball person to stand up and say "I would never work for Drayton McLane.  EVER!".  If they want to have a stupid organization, why not just go ahead and do it right and show the world just how stupid they really can be here in Houston.  The Bronx Zoo would have nothing on them!

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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2007, 03:37:52 pm »
Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.  I have that in my backpocket to use in a recap to describe the calling of balls and strikes.

warning: pendantic.

the Uncertainty Principle just states that you cannot know the state of a particle to an arbitrary degree of accuracy.  It gives it a lower bound. 

Or to say, if you know how fast a particle is going beyond a certain degree of accuracy, you no longer know in which direction its going, if you know which directions its going beyond a certain degree of accuracy, you no longer know how fast it is going.

which is not quite the same thing as the Observer Effect.
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2007, 03:39:31 pm »
warning: pendantic.

the Uncertainty Principle just states that you cannot know the state of a particle to an arbitrary degree of accuracy.  It gives it a lower bound. 

Or to say, if you know how fast a particle is going beyond a certain degree of accuracy, you no longer know in which direction its going, if you know which directions its going beyond a certain degree of accuracy, you no longer know how fast it is going.

which is not quite the same thing as the Observer Effect.

I know with a fairly high degree of accuracy that, when Carlos Lee is travelling in the direction of first base, his speed is approaching zero.
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2007, 03:44:12 pm »
I know with a fairly high degree of accuracy that, when Carlos Lee is travelling in the direction of first base, his speed is approaching zero.

and yet can steal a base if no one is observing him running.

who knew carlos lee was a living example of the contradictions of Quantum Mechanics?
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2007, 03:44:49 pm »
I know with a fairly high degree of accuracy that, when Carlos Lee is travelling in the direction of first base, his speed is approaching zero.

See also base, second and corner, LF.
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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2007, 05:26:46 pm »
and yet can steal a base if no one is observing him running.

who knew carlos lee was a living example of the contradictions of Quantum Mechanics?

Adam Everett knew, because Lee already proved it with his Supercollider.