Santana

[Alkie]

I really don't get much of a chance to watch Johan since the Twins are in Central time and I'm usually watching the Astros while the Twins are playing.

Everyone knows how awesome the guy is, but he's really really fun to watch.

He's mowing down the steM in HD right now.  It's must-see-TV.  Oh, and it's 9-0 Twins.

[austro]

What station is this?  I can't find it in Austin.

[Alkie]

What station is this?  I can't find it in Austin.

Ch 94 on DirecTV.

[austro]

Ahh, that would explain it. I'm on TimeWarner cable.

[mihoba]

Not Ks thru 8 complete? Wow, the steM are hitting it anyway.

[Alkie]

Not Ks thru 8 complete? Wow, the steM are hitting it anyway.

He's quite intentionally pitching to contact tonight.  He's thrown 81 pitches thru 8.

[otterjb]

That guy was once an Astro. Angers me just to think about it.

[JimR]

That guy was once an Astro. Angers me just to think about it.

you poor thing.

ok, today give me a list of Astros players in high A or lower who should be protected from Rule 5 when they are possible selections.

then give me the same list of AA players.

[Alkie]

That guy was once an Astro. Angers me just to think about it.

Hey, at least we didn't trade him away for one low minor prospect who never amounted to anything. 

Which is exactly what the Marlins did with him after they got him from us.

[Limey]

Hey, at least we didn't trade him away for one low minor prospect who never amounted to anything. 

Which is exactly what the Marlins did with him after they got him from us.

See also Abreu, Bobby.

[WulawHorn]

See also Abreu, Bobby.

Apples and oranges on the abreu comparison- he was advanced enough for the astros to be able to project with some amount of certainty that he'd be a good major leaguer. Why the DRays decided they just had to have Kevin Stocker is beyond me.

Can't cry about Santanna- that's a no way you can figure it out without a time machine situation.

[pravata]

Apples and oranges on the abreu comparison- he was advanced enough for the astros to be able to project with some amount of certainty that he'd be a good major leaguer. Why the DRays decided they just had to have Kevin Stocker is beyond me.

Can't cry about Santanna- that's a no way you can figure it out without a time machine situation.

I think the Astros projection on Abreu was that he was going to be a horse's ass.

[WulawHorn]

I think the Astros projection on Abreu was that he was going to be a horse's ass.

not altogether wrong either. I never faulted them for Doggy over abreau- I didn't get why Derek Bell was protected, but I was never a big DB fan.

[otterjb]

you poor thing.

ok, today give me a list of Astros players in high A or lower who should be protected from Rule 5 when they are possible selections.

then give me the same list of AA players.

Wasn't blaming the organization at all. It just would've been amazing to have Oswalt and Santana at the top of the staff for years. Of course: hindsight, spilt milk, lemonade, vodka, cheerios, polka, meth, bingo, streaking and Charlie Kerfeld. Ehh, my train of thought kinda trailed off there.

[pravata]

not altogether wrong either. I never faulted them for Doggy over abreau- I didn't get why Derek Bell was protected, but I was never a big DB fan.

Proven major leaguer, 2 seasons removed from hitting over .300.  Of course, if they were so good as spotting a horse's ass, why didn't they see that coming.

[WulawHorn]

Proven major leaguer, 2 seasons removed from hitting over .300.  Of course, if they were so good as spotting a horse's ass, why didn't they see that coming.

True that. I thought it was apparent that DB was on a downslide at the time of the expansion draft. But he still had 100 RBI's the year before. Of course with biggio being such a stud and hitting in front of Bags he also had about 3 billion chances to drive in those 100 runs. It was the worst 100 RBI season I've ever witnessed.

[Astroholic]

True that. I thought it was apparent that DB was on a downslide at the time of the expansion draft. But he still had 100 RBI's the year before. Of course with biggio being such a stud and hitting in front of Bags he also had about 3 billion chances to drive in those 100 runs. It was the worst 100 RBI season I've ever witnessed.

Bell sucked.

[Limey]

Apples and oranges on the abreu comparison- he was advanced enough for the astros to be able to project with some amount of certainty that he'd be a good major leaguer. Why the DRays decided they just had to have Kevin Stocker is beyond me.

Can't cry about Santanna- that's a no way you can figure it out without a time machine situation.

I was referring to the fact that the Astros get slammed for not keeping Abreu, yet [team x who I forget] who took him under Rule 5 turned right around and traded him for a shortstop (IIRC), who they cut a year later (IIRC), and they get off scot free.

[Andyzipp]

I was referring to the fact that the Astros get slammed for not keeping Abreu, yet [team x who I forget] who took him under Rule 5 turned right around and traded him for a shortstop (IIRC), who they cut a year later (IIRC), and they get off scot free.

There are so many things to criticize Tampa Bay about, it kind of gets lost in the mix.

[Ty in Tampa]

There are so many things to criticize Tampa Bay about, it kind of gets lost in the mix.

I was just going to post that.

[Limey]

There are so many things to criticize Tampa Bay about, it kind of gets lost in the mix.

Ahhhhh, Tampa Bay.  Thanks.

And the SS in question was Kevin Stocker.  Spent two years with the Rays before being DFA's and picked up by the Angles, for whom he was sub-Mendoza.  That was that.

[WulawHorn]

Ahhhhh, Tampa Bay.  Thanks.

And the SS in question was Kevin Stocker.  Spent two years with the Rays before being DFA's and picked up by the Angles, for whom he was sub-Mendoza.  That was that.

I already acknowledged that in my post 10 above re Kevin Stocker and the DRAYS- if that's the part you were comparing to then spot on- but I don't expect/hope for competence from other org's GM's, just those of the teams I root for.