Pinch Hitting Jason Jennings

[Navin R Johnson]

The reward sure doesnt seem worth the risk, especially considering that he bats left-handed.    If Gar is that worried about burning a position player, wouldn't it make a bunch more sense to boot Moehler and bring up Munson or Bruntlett or someone else?

[pravata]

The reward sure doesnt seem worth the risk, especially considering that he bats left-handed.    If Gar is that worried about burning a position player, wouldn't it make a bunch more sense to boot Moehler and bring up Munson or Bruntlett or someone else?

Well that would have been pretty spur of the moment dont you think?

[JackAstro]

It was a complicated ruse to make us believe that Lane and Ensberg had been traded, before running them out later to make us believe that they had not been traded, to distract us from the possibility that Burke was being traded. An elegant sleight of hand.

[Alkie]

It was a complicated ruse to make us believe that Lane and Ensberg had been traded, before running them out later to make us believe that they had not been traded, to distract us from the possibility that Burke was being traded. An elegant sleight of hand.

Joke's on you, chump.  Bruntlett's been traded to the Sabres.

[pravata]

It was a complicated ruse to make us believe that Lane and Ensberg had been traded, before running them out later to make us believe that they had not been traded, to distract us from the possibility that Burke was being traded. An elegant sleight of hand.

The "Made You Look" ploy.  Ingenious.

[pravata]

Joke's on you, chump.  Bruntlett's been traded to the Sabres.

Sabres Rock!

[TheWizard]

The reward sure doesnt seem worth the risk, especially considering that he bats left-handed.    If Gar is that worried about burning a position player, wouldn't it make a bunch more sense to boot Moehler and bring up Munson or Bruntlett or someone else?

I'm starting to buy into that thought that Moehler has incriminating photos of McLane.

[JimR]

some of you folks think way too much. Jennings is an excellent hitter, and he likely will PH more. many pitchers have done so in the past.

[Navin R Johnson]

I'd rather have an extra position player, then having to pinch hit with my #2 starter, who also bats lefthanded.    I could see carrying the extra pitcher, if there was any value in it, but Moehler has pitched less this week, than our pitchers have had to pinch hit.

I'd rather use Lane for mop up time, then Jennings to PH.   

[Fredia]

I'd rather have an extra position player, then having to pinch hit with my #2 starter, who also bats lefthanded.    I could see carrying the extra pitcher, if there was any value in it, but Moehler has pitched less this week, than our pitchers have had to pinch hit.

I'd rather use Lane for mop up time, then Jennings to PH.   

lane might be really good at mopping. might be his talent who knows. hitting lately has not seemed to fill  the bill

[pravata]

I'd rather have an extra position player, then having to pinch hit with my #2 starter, who also bats lefthanded.    I could see carrying the extra pitcher, if there was any value in it, but Moehler has pitched less this week, than our pitchers have had to pinch hit.

I'd rather use Lane for mop up time, then Jennings to PH.   

But, considering the Astros do carry 12 pitchers, and have that many on their team tonight,, obviously Garner was saving position players for later.  I could be wrong.  I could discuss this further.  But, I'm due back on the planet Earth.

[mihoba]

But, I'm due back on the planet Earth.

I forgot to tell you about the hyperspace bypass.

[Navin R Johnson]

But, considering the Astros do carry 12 pitchers, and have that many on their team tonight,, obviously Garner was saving position players for later. 

Well no shit.   I realize what he was doing tonight.   I just dont like the notion of putting yourself in the position to have to do that.

[pravata]

Well no shit.   I realize what he was doing tonight.   I just dont like the notion of putting yourself in the position to have to do that.

Oh dear god.  Then when did you expect them to anticipate the situation, when they sent Burke down?

[pravata]

I forgot to tell you about the hyperspace bypass.

I brought a towel.

[Noe]

Well no shit.   I realize what he was doing tonight.   I just dont like the notion of putting yourself in the position to have to do that.

I think we're all missing the most important issue here.  Why did Garner snub Roy Oswalt for a pinch hitting opportunity.  He did it last year with Andy Pettitte who proportedly was upset at the snub.  So much so, JdJO decided he needed to go ask Sparky for his reaction to the.... ahum... controversy!  Now this!  I'm sure JdJO is slipping some text messages to Roy as soon as Jenning dug in: "R U Mad? Call me!"

[pravata]

I think we're all missing the most important issue here.  Why did Garner snub Roy Oswalt for a pinch hitting opportunity.  He did it last year with Andy Pettitte who proportedly was upset at the snub.  So much so, JdJO decided he needed to go ask Sparky for his reaction to the.... ahum... controversy!  Now this!  I'm sure JdJO is slipping some text messages to Roy as soon as Jenning dug in: "R U Mad? Call me!"

Spot on.  JdeJO is not one to miss a high school cheerleader tiff as his lead.  It's his favorite story.

[Noe]

Spot on.  JdeJO is not one to miss a high school cheerleader tiff as his lead.  It's his favorite story.

Somehow, this will be the most important issue for the game report he'll file.  He'll slip in some backhanded compliment first, throw some deflection about he isn't really asking but he has to do it for the e-mailers, throw some bit about Garner in there and end with his expression of love for Oswalt: "Jason Jennings is a good guy... that is why it *hurts* me so much to have to do this and ask "why?"  why Jennings when Roy Oswalt was the man Scrap Iron chose last year!  Has he lost confidence in Roy?  I have e-mails of folks who are asking me to find out... I must find out.  Why does Phil hate Roy so much that he would snub him so!  Oswalt is a proven pinch hitting option and any team in the National League would trade for him just for that reason alone.  The fact that he's a great pitcher is gravy."

Or something close to that.

[pravata]

Somehow, this will be the most important issue for the game report he'll file.  He'll slip in some backhanded compliment first, throw some deflection about he isn't really asking but he has to do it for the e-mailers, throw some bit about Garner in there and end with his expression of love for Oswalt: "Jason Jennings is a good guy... that is why it *hurts* me so much to have to do this and ask "why?"  why Jennings when Roy Oswalt was the man Scrap Iron chose last year!  Has he lost confidence in Roy?  I have e-mails of folks who are asking me to find out... I must find out.  Why does Phil hate Roy so much that he would snub him so!  Oswalt is a proven pinch hitting option and any team in the National League would trade for him just for that reason alone.  The fact that he's a great pitcher is gravy."

Or something close to that.

Blissfully, I wont be reading it.  Whatever it is he scribbles.

[homer]

Blissfully, I wont be reading it.  Whatever it is he scribbles.

How is that working out for you?

[Navin R Johnson]

Oh dear god.  Then when did you expect them to anticipate the situation, when they sent Burke down?

They had to use Woody a couple games ago.

Considering that Moehler does nothing for the team, I'd prefer to have the extra position player so Gar doesnt need use his #2 pitcher to pinch hit.   

[pravata]

How is that working out for you?

Fantastic.  I'm not near as jittery about the Astros.  And, by not listening to half assed speculation going in 10 different directions, I'm more informed about the Astros, and not some ninnies ideas about the Astros.

[pravata]

They had to use Woody a couple games ago.

Considering that Moehler does nothing for the team, I'd prefer to have the extra position player so Gar doesnt need use his #2 pitcher to pinch hit.   

Your preference means dick.

[JaneDoe]

Prav--any rumblings on why Burke left the game in the 1st?

[pravata]

Prav--any rumblings on why Burke left the game in the 1st?

I've checked 9 ways to Sunday on what I know about.  We need to trust to the folks who have sources at this point.  Or, just wait, like the rest of the hoi polloi.

[Navin R Johnson]

Your preference means dick.

Never said it did.   You sure reply to it a lot though.

[homer]

Fantastic.  I'm not near as jittery about the Astros.  And, by not listening to half assed speculation going in 10 different directions, I'm more informed about the Astros, and not some ninnies ideas about the Astros.

Jittery? Astros?

[pravata]

Jittery? Astros?

Nope.  Did you see Carlos Lee messing with Loretta about the ball for his 1500 hit?  This is a loose team.  No worries here.

[pravata]

Never said it did.   You sure reply to it a lot though.

Garner prefers 12 pitchers.  It's reality.  You can either deal with it, or construct some fantasy team, as you seem to be doing.  The one that has Munson or Bruntlett suddenly to pinch hit.

[homer]

Nope.  Did you see Carlos Lee messing with Loretta about the ball for his 1500 hit?  This is a loose team.  No worries here.

Good stuff. I think Loretta had his head turned.

Garner was also awful tickled early in the game...

[pravata]

Good stuff. I think Loretta had his head turned.

Garner was also awful tickled early in the game...

I saw him laughing in the dugout early... when?

[homer]

I saw him laughing in the dugout early... when?

Tivo sez: 2nd inning, Gonzales at bat. Ausmus went to the mound on the 1-0. Not sure what was going on.

[pravata]

Tivo sez: 2nd inning, Gonzales at bat. Ausmus went to the mound on the 1-0. Not sure what was going on.

I didnt get that either.  There was nothing specific that precipitated the meeting, and it went on for awhile.  I dont remember what Garner was doing though.

[JaneDoe]

I've checked 9 ways to Sunday on what I know about.  We need to trust to the folks who have sources at this point.  Or, just wait, like the rest of the hoi polloi.

Capps said absolutely nothing about it in the postgame, so can we assume it was not an injury?

[DVauthrin]

I don't mind it.   Jennings can hit better than Lane.   He has been such a good hitter as a pitcher that colorado toyed with the idea of giving him starts playing a position on his off days in the past. 

[MikeyBoy]

They had to use Woody a couple games ago.

Considering that Moehler does nothing for the team, I'd prefer to have the extra position player so Gar doesnt need use his #2 pitcher to pinch hit.  

From the FWIW department, the Dodgers are the only team in the NL with an 11 man pitching staff.

[JimR]

Capps said absolutely nothing about it in the postgame, so can we assume it was not an injury?

box score says he was 0-3. obviously the website was wrong.

[JaneDoe]

box score says he was 0-3. obviously the website was wrong.

Which box score? 

[Jacksonian]

box score says he was 0-3. obviously the website was wrong.

Wrong box score to be sure.  Burke was pulled after the top of the first.  Still haven't heard why.

[Limey]

Did you see Carlos Lee messing with Loretta about the ball for his 1500 hit?  This is a loose team.  No worries here.

Let's not get carried away here.  Harry Dunn just called Lloyd Christmas stupid.

Let's see how they do tonight at the Roxbury.

[JimR]

Wrong box score to be sure.  Burke was pulled after the top of the first.  Still haven't heard why.

the American-Statesman box score from last night's game shows 0-3.

[austro]

the American-Statesman box score from last night's game shows 0-3.

Here's a section from the game recap on the Express site (http://www.roundrockexpress.com/default.asp?PageId=84&ArticleId=1225):

Round Rock’s lone run on the night came in the eighth after pinch hitter Mike Rodriguez drew a lead-off walk. Chris Burke followed with a walk, but was doubled off at second when Tim Raines, Jr. grounded into a double play. With Rodriguez at third, Brooks Conrad singled to left field and gave the club their first and only score.

That would seem to imply that Burke was still in the game in the 8th.

Where did the rumor about Burke being lifted in the 1st originate from?  I've forgotten.

[Noe]

Here's a section from the game recap on the Express site (http://www.roundrockexpress.com/default.asp?PageId=84&ArticleId=1225):

That would seem to imply that Burke was still in the game in the 8th.

Where did the rumor about Burke being lifted in the 1st originate from?  I've forgotten.

Gameday and Game Log.  BTW - last night the game was a 11-10 loss, so are you looking at the right report?

http://www.roundrockexpress.com/default.asp?PageId=85&ArticleId=1226

Game Log

Round Rock Top 1st

    * Chris Burke flies out to left fielder Brian Horwitz.
    * Eric Bruntlett singles on a line drive to center fielder Justin Leone.
    * With Brooks Conrad batting, wild pitch by Sun-Woo Kim, Eric Bruntlett to 2nd.
    * Brooks Conrad strikes out swinging.
    * Eric Munson lines out to right fielder Nate Schierholtz.

Fresno Bottom 1st

    * Defensive Substitution: Jesse Garcia replaces second baseman Chris Burke, batting 1st, playing shortstop.
    * Defensive switch from third base to second base for Brooks Conrad.
    * Defensive switch from shortstop to third base for Cody Ransom.
    * William Bergolla reaches on throwing error by second baseman Brooks Conrad.
    * With Luis R. Figueroa batting, William Bergolla steals (2) 2nd base.
    * Luis R. Figueroa out on a sacrifice bunt, pitcher Mark McLemore to second baseman Brooks Conrad. William Bergolla to 3rd.
    * Justin Leone called out on strikes.
    * Scott McClain grounds out, shortstop Jesse Garcia to first baseman Mark Saccomanno.

[Jacksonian]

Here's a section from the game recap on the Express site (http://www.roundrockexpress.com/default.asp?PageId=84&ArticleId=1225):

That would seem to imply that Burke was still in the game in the 8th.

Where did the rumor about Burke being lifted in the 1st originate from?  I've forgotten.

Not a rumor.  Fact.  You're looking at the wrong game.  Last night's game was a 11-10 loss.

Gamelog from milb.com

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_log&gid=2007_05_31_rreaaa_freaaa_1

Under Fresno Bottom 1st:

"Defensive Substitution: Jesse Garcia replaces second baseman Chris Burke, batting 1st, playing shortstop."



Boxscore from milb.com

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_05_31_rreaaa_freaaa_1

[Minus]

Gameday.  BTW - last night the game was a 11-10 loss, so are you looking at the right report?

http://www.roundrockexpress.com/default.asp?PageId=85&ArticleId=1226

I was listening to the game on the radio, but it was after Burke came out, and I never heard him mentioned. Still, I remember Jesse Garcia hit a homer batting in the leadoff spot in the 3rd or so, so that would mean that Burke either wasn't playing or was taken out(assuming Burke was leading off).

[Jacksonian]

the American-Statesman box score from last night's game shows 0-3.

That was on the 30th.  If you got that from the printed paper they probably don't have last night's game since it was played in Cali.

[austro]

Not a rumor.  Fact.  You're looking at the wrong game.  Last night's game was a 11-10 loss.

Well, that would explain why I'm confused.