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"I've had bad luck hitting balls right at people," Ensberg said. "The key is to keep a positive mind frame during this time and accept the fact that I'm seeing the ball well and hitting the ball hard, and I just have to wait for those balls to drop. Because I promise, at some point they will drop. They have to.

"I do know that guys had some really great at-bats today and did some really positive things. I think you saw some very good signs. But you're only on the verge [of a turnaround] once those balls start landing."

While many fans have questioned the psyche of a team in its longest losing skid in a dozen years, those in the clubhouse aren't losing hope.

"I'm coming out each day more and more fired up," Ensberg said. "I recognize that this is a dogfight and a battle, and I refuse to give in. I'm not going to lay down. I'm going to go out there and do everything that I can to do something positive. This is one of those terrible times in baseball during a season and I refuse to give up."

You know, ol' MoBerg sure sounds fired up there.  And you know what, he has been more aggressive lately.  I'm not kidding, he's actually looked a lot better as a hitter.  Last night, Jimmy D was talking about his favorite subject of hitting... he of the anti-Tom Emanski instructional video of course.  Actually, it was a little nugget he said when Jason Lane took a 2-0 fastball right in the heart of the plate.  Lane stepped away from the plate and almost on cue, Jimmy D said "He's not seeing the ball right now" as Lane rubbed his eyeballs a little before he stepped back in.  Now, some may think Jimmy D is talking literally, and in some respects, yes he is.  But seeing the ball is also a way to say he's not swinging at a pitch with the same approach a hitter who is aggressive and sure of himself would do.  The pitch isn't going to get past such a hitter, he'll swing and do something with it.  He knows, I mean seriously knows that he can hit any fastball at any time in any count.  So seeing is also saying confidence.  Confidence breeds aggressiveness.  Aggressiveness breeds a propensity to swing the bat.  Swing the bat and making contact can lead to go things.  See: Pence, Hunter.

So right now, there are some guys on the team not seeing the ball, yes... I'm looking at you Lance Berkman.  His swing on a fastball looks tentative and unsure.  He looks as lost on what to do with a pitch as Lane, but at least Berkman is still hacking.  His results will tell you that he's just not mechanically sound right now because he's not driving anything.  Lack of confidence just enough to throw his swing off?  I dunno, maybe.  Injury of some sort?  Same thing, I dunno, maybe.  What is sure is that he is not a confident hitter right now, his swing being the most evident at this point.  So that leads us back to Mo.

I've ripped him as much as anyone else in here for his lack of want to be a middle of the lineup hitter.  In fact, his desire to transform into a slappy #2 who will walk more than anything else is strange.  Stranger than strange.  So several days on the bench, no... several weeks on the bench has gotten to him so it seems.  He has come out more aggressive, more sure that he belongs, that he can help and most certainly that if he just does what he knows he can do to drive a baseball, it will be fine to strikeout on occasion... with the bat moving *through* the strikezone instead of on the shoulders.  I've seen a much better Mo, and it helps to think he can turn it around.

So tonight, he sits.  Go figure.  Must have bad career stats against Arroyo.  Oh well.

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2007, 06:04:47 pm »
Last night he was swinging, much better, but the night before (when he batted leadoff) he was caught looking twice. I'm still not convinced.

I do like what he said, however. Good attitude. I hope he rakes from here until the end of the season.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2007, 06:09:59 pm »
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"I'm coming out each day more and more fired up. I recognize that this is a dogfight and a battle, and I refuse to give in. I'm not going to lay down. I'm going to go out there and do everything that I can to do something positive. This is one of those terrible times in baseball during a season and I refuse to give up."

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2007, 06:10:54 pm »
I hope he rakes from here until the end of the season.

And I hope I crap a pouch of Krugerrands after dinner tonight.

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2007, 06:13:47 pm »
And I hope I crap a pouch of Krugerrands after dinner tonight.

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2007, 06:37:43 pm »
I can't figure out if I want to know where you're eating dinner.

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2007, 06:38:41 pm »
Little Caesar's, actually.  That's what makes it all the more unlikely.

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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2007, 06:42:36 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2007, 10:25:52 pm »
Ballplayers use cliches the same way an octopus uses ink.
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I understand and usually would agree.  But I didn't read his remarks and then think "Hey, he's swinging the bat well."  But what I really have seen is a change in his approach to the game and that was waaaaay before I read his remarks.  He's worth taking one more look at if he continues to use this approach to hitting.  One of confidence that "if I swing the bat, good things will happen".  And they need to stop putting him at the top of the lineup.

Move him down and force him to think like a run producer.

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2007, 10:27:57 pm »
Last night he was swinging, much better, but the night before (when he batted leadoff) he was caught looking twice. I'm still not convinced.

I do like what he said, however. Good attitude. I hope he rakes from here until the end of the season.

Don't ever bat him leadoff again.  He thinks he has to look at pitches to bat leadoff and that is not... *NOT*... a good idea and a huge waste of a good talent to drive in runs.

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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2007, 11:04:22 pm »
Don't ever bat him leadoff again.  He thinks he has to look at pitches to bat leadoff and that is not... *NOT*... a good idea and a huge waste of a good talent to drive in runs.
Morgan just needs to stop thinking and start swinging.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2007, 01:48:51 am »
Morgan just needs to stop thinking and start swinging.

can we have doctors transplant lenny dykstra's brain into ensberg's skull asap?  That should do the trick.
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Re: In defense of Morgan Ensberg... no, seriously, don't laugh!
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2007, 02:41:05 am »
Ensberg at the top of the lineup has been a total disaster. Just checking his splits-- 63 AB in the 2hole with a .159 AVG and .243 OBP. He's been most effective this year in the 6-hole, though only 14 AB, hitting .429/.471/.714. The most disappointing thing is that his power this year has disappeared (.395 SLG). Hopefully, he's gotten the point that he can't be a top of the order type and will start swinging more for power, but I fear his power's on a pretty irreversible decline at this point.

That being said, I still like his attitude. As discussed in other places, he's seemed willing to work harder to change his approach than other struggling types like Burke. Then again, Mo's not been demoted.
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2007, 03:15:13 am »
Morgan just needs to stop thinking and start swinging.

Amen!  "See ball, hit ball."  The 'stache approach.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2007, 07:03:50 am »
If MO could just pull his head out of his ASS and start being more aggressive at the plate, we're looking at one of the more pooductive 'stros in the lineup.  However, i have absolutely no idea if this is possible at this point, but if the FO is looking to trade him do we really have complete confidence in Loretta taking over everyday duties at 3rd.  I've been lurking around this site for awhile, and i think i can say we're all in agreement that CLANK has no business being an every day 3rd baseman.  Nor does Loretta have any remote shot at being anything even resembling an everyday SS, thank god we've still got AE for that.  So, i guess my question is, if the FO trades away MOBERG where do we stand at 3rd....

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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2007, 09:15:35 am »
I've been lurking around this site for awhile, and i think i can say we're all in agreement that CLANK has no business being an every day 3rd baseman. 

 

Perhaps lurking a little bit longer is something you should invest in.  I doubt that anyone can say we're all in agreement about water being wet.  I know that Hudson will be happy to tell you why it's not. 

Lamb can be an everyday player, and he can do it at 3rd.

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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2007, 09:20:57 am »

Lamb can be an everyday player, and he can do it at 3rd.

I doubt this, but with any luck we will not have to find out.  At this point it is not clear (to me) that anyone on the current squad can be an everyday player at 3B, with the possible exception of Loretta.  Of course, if Iceberg can keep the bat off his shoulder, that would be nice.  I see a better chance of that than of Lamb suddenly rising to the level of "mediocre" in the field.
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2007, 09:25:45 am »
I doubt this, but with any luck we will not have to find out.  At this point it is not clear (to me) that anyone on the current squad can be an everyday player at 3B, with the possible exception of Loretta.  Of course, if Iceberg can keep the bat off his shoulder, that would be nice.  I see a better chance of that than of Lamb suddenly rising to the level of "mediocre" in the field.

My point was more that we actually couldn't all agree that Lamb was worthless at 3rd.  I know that many Bob's, virtual or otherwise disagree with me.

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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2007, 09:27:23 am »
I doubt this, but with any luck we will not have to find out.  At this point it is not clear (to me) that anyone on the current squad can be an everyday player at 3B, with the possible exception of Loretta.  Of course, if Iceberg can keep the bat off his shoulder, that would be nice.  I see a better chance of that than of Lamb suddenly rising to the level of "mediocre" in the field.

Lamb got to start in some games lately and the regular work has not been kind to his BA.  Loretta may need to take one step closer to the line when he plays 3d.  His reaction time to his right isnt that great.

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2007, 09:34:39 am »
... we're looking at one of the more pooductive 'stros in the lineup ...

Good stuff, good stuff. "Pooductive" will be working it's way into at least one of my conversations today.
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2007, 09:37:17 am »
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2007, 09:43:39 am »
Good stuff, good stuff. "Pooductive" will be working it's way into at least one of my conversations today.

Some people say that Rick White has been pooductive.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2007, 09:45:09 am »
Lamb can be an everyday player, and he can do it at 3rd.

For the record, I'm for it.  While he's not a "good" 3B, I think he's adequate (that one game he lost singlehandedly in the field makes it seem worse than it really is) and his bat MORE than makes up for it.  Mike Lamb needs to be hitting every day.

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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2007, 09:45:45 am »
Some people say that Rick White has been pooductive.

Presumably, "poodeuce" Is the root of "pooductive"
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2007, 09:56:29 am »
Obviously, the best scenario is the removal of MoBerg's head from his rectum and a return of the 2005 MoBerg (marathon season version, not World Series).  He is the better option as a third baseman.  He is the better of the three as a 6 hole hitter.  All that is needed is a commitment from Mo to swing the bat.  I have noticed that someone, I don't know who (Sean Berry?) has tipped him off that pitchers have settled on a routine to give him the best pitch to hit on the very first pitch.  He is getting his healthy serving of meatballs for a very long time and for a very long time he has looked at them land safely into the catcher's mitt.

I don't know who bitch slapped him into a reality that it is entirely okay, nay... it is almost more than okay, it's a God given right as a patriotic American who loves Mom, apple pie and Chevolet to swing the bat at the very first pitch.  Whatever clockwork orange mind altering method is being used is working.  So that gives the team options.  Options are good.  Very good.  And MoBerg may be a reason this season turns as much as Pence!!! (who impressed me again last night with his hitting approach... of course, Arroyo had absolutley no control of the curveball, so that helped... but I digress). 

So the question is this: Do they risk keeping Mo around and give him some extended time at third to find out what they've got or trade his arse away knowing full well that his issue is mental more than physical?  Or stubborness more than teachability.  Or whatever you want to call it.  It's an interesting call to say the least.

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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2007, 10:02:32 am »
For the record, I'm for it.  While he's not a "good" 3B, I think he's adequate (that one game he lost singlehandedly in the field makes it seem worse than it really is) and his bat MORE than makes up for it.  Mike Lamb needs to be hitting every day.

For the record, I'm not. Not an everyday job. Ensberg needs to take control of 3B, he is much more suited for an everyday job. Lamb is a valuable PH option off the bench, causing opposing managers to make strategy decisions based on that threat.

Looking ahead for the month, the Astros play 9 games at AL parks (CWS, LAA, Rangers) and I could see Biggio at DH for all of them, with Loretta at 2B and Ensberg/Lamb at 3B based on match ups.

Twenty three more hits and this may change my thoughts. This month, IMO, will be key for Ensberg.
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2007, 10:03:13 am »
For the record, I'm for it.  While he's not a "good" 3B, I think he's adequate (that one game he lost singlehandedly in the field makes it seem worse than it really is) and his bat MORE than makes up for it.  Mike Lamb needs to be hitting every day.

He had been for about a week lately.  Check what happened, he was pooductive.

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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2007, 10:12:27 am »
For the record, I'm not. Not an everyday job. Ensberg needs to take control of 3B, he is much more suited for an everyday job. Lamb is a valuable PH option off the bench, causing opposing managers to make strategy decisions based on that threat.

Looking ahead for the month, the Astros play 9 games at AL parks (CWS, LAA, Rangers) and I could see Biggio at DH for all of them, with Loretta at 2B and Ensberg/Lamb at 3B based on match ups.

Twenty three more hits and this may change my thoughts. This month, IMO, will be key for Ensberg.

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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2007, 10:34:42 am »
He had been for about a week lately.  Check what happened, he was pooductive.

That word is the best addition to this site that has emananted from a Clark in, like, forever!  That is an outstanding word and deserves some sort of recognition.  If only we had some way to recognize great contributions here.... hmmmmmm.... I wonder.... hmmmmm...

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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2007, 10:38:52 am »
That word is the best addition to this site that has emananted from a Clark in, like, forever!  That is an outstanding word and deserves some sort of recognition.  If only we had some way to recognize great contributions here.... hmmmmmm.... I wonder.... hmmmmm...

I think there is a word for exactly what you talking about. If only there were a place to look up the meaning of words I don't know!
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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2007, 10:41:56 am »
I think there is a word for exactly what you talking about. If only there were a place to look up the meaning of words I don't know!

Like a site dictionary!  Hmmmmmm....

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« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2007, 11:57:28 am »
That word is the best addition to this site that has emananted from a Clark in, like, forever!  That is an outstanding word and deserves some sort of recognition.  If only we had some way to recognize great contributions here.... hmmmmmm.... I wonder.... hmmmmm...

What's so great about it is the fact that it was a typo, but instantly better than anything that would have been written on purpose. Which is, in itself, majestically Clarkish.
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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2007, 11:59:14 am »
What's so great about it is the fact that it was a typo, but instantly better than anything that would have been written on purpose. Which is, in itself, majestically Clarkish.

It's brilliant, purposeful or not.  Well done by the Clark!

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« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2007, 12:11:18 pm »
It's brilliant, purposeful or not.  Well done by the Clark!

Clarks, while always needing to kept at arms length, have the ability (often untapped) to knock one out of the park.  Fredia for instance was probably a Clark when the cnadle was first thought of.

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« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2007, 12:28:12 pm »
It's brilliant, purposeful or not.  Well done by the Clark!

And on his very first post, also.

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« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2007, 01:26:57 pm »
It's brilliant, purposeful or not.  Well done by the Clark!

Not to mention that it is so perfectly descriptive of most of what goes on in here...
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« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2007, 02:26:50 pm »
For the record, I'm not. Not an everyday job. Ensberg needs to take control of 3B, he is much more suited for an everyday job. Lamb is a valuable PH option off the bench, causing opposing managers to make strategy decisions based on that threat.

Looking ahead for the month, the Astros play 9 games at AL parks (CWS, LAA, Rangers) and I could see Biggio at DH for all of them, with Loretta at 2B and Ensberg/Lamb at 3B based on match ups.

Twenty three more hits and this may change my thoughts. This month, IMO, will be key for Ensberg.
I think this sums up my thoughts too.  If they are not going to trade Ensberg and acquire a better (ie more reliable) 3B option, then he is the best person for the everyday job.

I hate his ABs, but we have all seen his potential (sans head up ass).  Lamb is what he is.  I have seen little improvement in him since he has arrived in Houston.  That doesn't mean he sucks, or is terrible.  But I would hardly call him average for 3B in general (batting or fielding).

This team needs one person to join Lee and Pence in the consistent hitting area.  Berkman would be ideal, but Ensberg wouldn't hurt.

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« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2007, 04:32:04 pm »
He had been for about a week lately.  Check what happened, he was pooductive.

We like to call that "small sample size."


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« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2007, 05:07:19 pm »

This team needs one person to join Lee and Pence in the consistent hitting area.  Berkman would be ideal, but Ensberg wouldn't hurt.

Dare we not hope for both?  Or even (gasp) both plus Scott??
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« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2007, 05:23:23 pm »
We like to call that "small sample size."


What do "we" like to call dropping 89 points in the month of May?...
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« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2007, 06:06:04 pm »
Not to mention that it is so perfectly descriptive of most of what goes on in here...

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« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2007, 06:08:30 pm »
I think I am going to use that word in all my future endeavors when it applies.. I'm loving it.  Pooductive.
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« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2007, 06:29:59 pm »
I think I am going to use that word in all my future endeavors when it applies.. I'm loving it.  Pooductive.

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« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2007, 08:11:54 pm »
It's brilliant, purposeful or not.  Well done by the Clark!

Heh, yes but remember Noe, i'm still only half a fucktard.  I do however aspire to someday reach full douche nozzle status.
So there ya go, you're the retarded offspring of five monkeys having butt sex with a fish squirrel.  ---  Mrs. Garrison

Noe

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Re: In defense of Morgan Ensberg... no, seriously, don't laugh!
« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2007, 10:28:30 am »
Heh, yes but remember Noe, i'm still only half a fucktard.  I do however aspire to someday reach full douche nozzle status.

Ah yes. you haven't arrived until someone calls you a douche nozzle.  You're on your way my maign.  We're all just a minor bunny hop away from douche nozzlery of course. 

BTW everyone, didn't watch the game last night (went on a date with the missus which is entirely more important than any baseball game).  When I read pravata's recap, all I could think was how awesome it is to know my powers of jinxousity are still firmly in place.  I speak well of MoBerg, ask that he be placed in the #5 or #6 (because he is the best option) and Pence be moved to #2 to get more fastballs and *BAM*, Scrap Iron does it.

And MoBerg goes back to being a lost boy.  I don't know if he lacked aggressiveness last nigth since I didn't watch.  And judging by the lack of productivity from basically the middle of the lineup all game long (where oh where has my Berkman gone... oh where oh where can he be!  Where oh where has my Berkman gone... oh bring back my Berkman to meeee!), I'd say this was a collective funk once again.  But this is MoBerg's chance, so he needs to make his tryout for PT (here or in Anaheim) work.  No one is going to want to trade for him nor is Houston going to use him as an everyday guy if he doesn't start to produce as a middle of the lineup guy.

pravata

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Re: In defense of Morgan Ensberg... no, seriously, don't laugh!
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2007, 11:24:39 am »
Ah yes. you haven't arrived until someone calls you a douche nozzle.  You're on your way my maign.  We're all just a minor bunny hop away from douche nozzlery of course. 

BTW everyone, didn't watch the game last night (went on a date with the missus which is entirely more important than any baseball game).  When I read pravata's recap, all I could think was how awesome it is to know my powers of jinxousity are still firmly in place.  I speak well of MoBerg, ask that he be placed in the #5 or #6 (because he is the best option) and Pence be moved to #2 to get more fastballs and *BAM*, Scrap Iron does it.

And MoBerg goes back to being a lost boy.  I don't know if he lacked aggressiveness last nigth since I didn't watch.  And judging by the lack of productivity from basically the middle of the lineup all game long (where oh where has my Berkman gone... oh where oh where can he be!  Where oh where has my Berkman gone... oh bring back my Berkman to meeee!), I'd say this was a collective funk once again.  But this is MoBerg's chance, so he needs to make his tryout for PT (here or in Anaheim) work.  No one is going to want to trade for him nor is Houston going to use him as an everyday guy if he doesn't start to produce as a middle of the lineup guy.

And if he did produce, why would they trade him?  He was swinging, doesnt necessarily mean he was aggressive though.  Missed a fastball at the knees which he grounded, sharply I'll give him that, into an inning ending dp.