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"Pitchers you'd pay to see"
« on: May 10, 2007, 08:27:25 pm »
Jayson Stark, over at ESPN, has an article up on the pitchers in baseball you'd pay to watch. Horrible, heavily AL-biased, and of course DQ makes the list. But surprise, our boy Roy squeaks in at #5.

"We didn't expect Oswalt to make this list, because it seems as though this guy never makes any lists of the best anythings in baseball."

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2865873&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1

At least he gets (some?) appreciation, even though IMO he's gotta be in the top 3 pitchers in all of baseball. And putting Matsuzaka and Felix on the list? Come on.

The rest of the column is all Clemens-related.
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Re: "Pitchers you'd pay to see"
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2007, 08:37:24 pm »
The rest of the column is all Clemens-related.

Pitchers you'd pay to see get beaten with sticks?
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Re: "Pitchers you'd pay to see"
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2007, 08:43:59 pm »
Pitchers you'd pay to see get beaten with sticks?
maybe they will tack on a surcharge at any park he pitches in for the privledge of seeing him.. oh wait maybe i should take back that suggestion
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2007, 08:52:16 pm »
Jayson Stark, over at ESPN, has an article up on the pitchers in baseball you'd pay to watch. Horrible, heavily AL-biased, and of course DQ makes the list. But surprise, our boy Roy squeaks in at #5.

 And putting Matsuzaka and Felix on the list?

I read it as who you want to see, not necessarily who is the best. In view of that I'm sure Matsuzaka is there largely due to the novelty factor; the pay out just to talk to him, the mythical gyroball, and the question of whether the man lives up to the hype. Beckett and Schilling are having better seasons thus far for the RedSox.

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Re: "Pitchers you'd pay to see"
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2007, 06:59:25 am »
Gosh, if we could add retired pitchers that to that list that we'd pay to see again, mine would be Bob Gibson and J.R. Richard. Gibson pitched like he owned the inside corner (was a tough pitcher-didn't mind dotting you or dusting you off), and J.R. pitched like he owned the whole plate.
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2007, 07:04:08 am »
I'd like to see Jeff Bagwell go to Mike Marshall's clinic for re-hab and then come back as a pitcher. I'd pay good money to see that.
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Re: "Pitchers you'd pay to see"
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2007, 08:59:27 am »
1. Sandy Koufax
2. Bob Gibson
3. Whitey Ford
4. Bob Feller
5. Walter Johnson

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Re: "Pitchers you'd pay to see"
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2007, 09:37:03 am »
Ryan and Richards have to be on my list.

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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2007, 09:39:17 am »
1. Sandy Koufax
2. Bob Gibson
3. Whitey Ford
4. Bob Feller
5. Walter Johnson

fuck DQ

I'm sure it's a tougher choice for you since guys like Walter Johnson, Cy Young and Grover Cleveland Alexander were your contemporaries...

My choices would be:

Sandy Koufax
Don Drysdale
Bob Gibson
Nolan Ryan
Juan Marichal
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2007, 09:51:10 am »
I actually paid my own money, cash American, to see JR Richard pitch.  Also Nolan Ryan.  The opposing pitcher I had to go watch pitch every time was Phil Niekro.  He was just plain fascinating to me.  I started to love to watch Mike Scott, but one day he was caught cheating and my brother vowed never to go watch him again.  I was indifferent.

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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2007, 10:11:08 am »
I actually paid my own money, cash American, to see JR Richard pitch.  Also Nolan Ryan.  The opposing pitcher I had to go watch pitch every time was Phil Niekro.  He was just plain fascinating to me.  I started to love to watch Mike Scott, but one day he was caught cheating and my brother vowed never to go watch him again.  I was indifferent.

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Re: "Pitchers you'd pay to see"
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2007, 10:22:09 am »
Never enjoyed watching a pitcher more than the Unit in the last half of the 1998 regular season.

Amen to that.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2007, 10:28:46 am »
Never enjoyed watching a pitcher more than the Unit in the last half of the 1998 regular season.

Agreed- I made it to every unit start in the summer of 98- it was awesome fun, totally loved it.

I love to see Roy pitch and try to see him whenever I can.  He's even the wife's favorite pitcher (not a huge baseball fan) b/c he works so fast that there is not the down time there is with other guys- she says everyone should pitch that way and I agree.  Get ball, throw ball, attack hitters.  With his stuff he can do it.  I don't think there is the same electricity as in a Johnson 98 start, but day in and day out he's great- just doesn't come with the resume of hype of those other guys.

I'd pay to see dice k pitch (but hell- I pay to watch Wandy pitch too) just b/c he's supposed to be so different.


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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2007, 10:38:00 am »
Agreed- I made it to every unit start in the summer of 98- it was awesome fun, totally loved it.

I love to see Roy pitch and try to see him whenever I can.  He's even the wife's favorite pitcher (not a huge baseball fan) b/c he works so fast that there is not the down time there is with other guys- she says everyone should pitch that way and I agree.  Get ball, throw ball, attack hitters.  With his stuff he can do it.  I don't think there is the same electricity as in a Johnson 98 start, but day in and day out he's great- just doesn't come with the resume of hype of those other guys.

I'd pay to see dice k pitch (but hell- I pay to watch Wandy pitch too) just b/c he's supposed to be so different.



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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2007, 10:46:08 am »
J.R. pitched like he owned the whole plate.
AND the batter's box.  His wildness made it so you never wanted to dig in against that 102+ MPH pitch.

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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2007, 10:54:53 am »
I love to see Roy pitch and try to see him whenever I can.  He's even the wife's favorite pitcher (not a huge baseball fan) b/c he works so fast that there is not the down time there is with other guys- she says everyone should pitch that way and I agree.  Get ball, throw ball, attack hitters.  With his stuff he can do it.  I don't think there is the same electricity as in a Johnson 98 start, but day in and day out he's great- just doesn't come with the resume of hype of those other guys.

I could not agree more.

Over on an Astros-fansite-to-remain-nameless, you can download the video of the 9th inning of Scott's division-clinching no-hitter.  The movement on his pitches is just... I dunno, you have to see it to believe it.  That was more than a decade before I became an Astros fan, but I'd drop a few bucks to see some other of his games from that era.

I always really enjoy watching knuckleballers, too, though I think you get a better look at them on TV than in person.

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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2007, 10:58:09 am »
I could not agree more.

Over on an Astros-fansite-to-remain-nameless, you can download the video of the 9th inning of Scott's division-clinching no-hitter.  The movement on his pitches is just... I dunno, you have to see it to believe it.  That was more than a decade before I became an Astros fan, but I'd drop a few bucks to see some other of his games from that era.

I always really enjoy watching knuckleballers, too, though I think you get a better look at them on TV than in person.

I actually attended that game (no hitter/clincher) and the 16 inning game against the etsM.  That was an electric time in the belly of the old girl.  BTW, I hate the GD etsM.

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Re: "Pitchers you'd pay to see"
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2007, 10:59:15 am »
Richard, Ryan, Clemens and Al Hrabosky.
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2007, 11:00:37 am »
Machiavelli, Bentham, Locke, Hobbes, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Lindwall, Miller, Hassett, and Benaud.
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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2007, 11:02:37 am »
Machiavelli, Bentham, Locke, Hobbes, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Lindwall, Miller, Hassett, and Benaud.

What was that dudes name whom threw the rosin bag down every time before he pitched.  He was fun to watch. 
I also liked watching Tavaraz melt down against the stros in the 04 run (i believe).

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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2007, 11:04:32 am »
What was that dudes name whom threw the rosin bag down every time before he pitched.  He was fun to watch. 
I also liked watching Tavaraz melt down against the stros in the 04 run (i believe).

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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2007, 11:07:18 am »
What was that dudes name whom threw the rosin bag down every time before he pitched.  He was fun to watch.

Turk Wendel.  He also brushed his teeth between innings and would leap over the baselines when entering the field.  According to Wikipedia, he had other eccentricities:

    * Wendell insisted that the umpire roll the ball to the mound rather than simply throw it to him (If an umpire would ignorantly throw the ball to him, Wendell was known to let it go past him, or even to let it bounce off his chest, after which he would retrieve it from the ground).

    * Whenever he began a new inning, Wendell would turn and wave to the center fielder and wait for him to wave back before proceeding.

    * At the beginning of each inning, Wendell would reportedly draw three crosses in the pitcher's mound dirt.

    * Whenever his catcher stood, Wendell would crouch down.

    * When entering or leaving the field, Wendell would always take a tremendous leap over the baseline.

    * Wendell would chew black licorice (an alternative to the chewing tobacco used by many players).

    * Wendell often brushed his teeth between innings (some claim that he brushed between every inning). While brushing, he often hid in the dugout, either by ducking behind objects or by facing the wall.

    * Wendell forcefully slammed his rosin bag onto the pitcher's mound between outs.

    * Wendell wore jersey number 99, in honor of Rick "Wild Thing" Vaughn, the main character in the movie Major League (played by Charlie Sheen).

    * Wendell wore a necklace made from the claws and teeth of various animals he had hunted and killed.

    * While in the minor leagues, Wendell was rumored to drink only orange juice (no food or any other drink) on days he pitched.

    * Wendell sometimes threw his glove into the stands when leaving a game.
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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2007, 11:10:42 am »
Turk Wendel.  He also brushed his teeth between innings and would leap over the baselines when entering the field.  According to Wikipedia, he had other eccentricities:

    * Wendell insisted that the umpire roll the ball to the mound rather than simply throw it to him (If an umpire would ignorantly throw the ball to him, Wendell was known to let it go past him, or even to let it bounce off his chest, after which he would retrieve it from the ground).

    * Whenever he began a new inning, Wendell would turn and wave to the center fielder and wait for him to wave back before proceeding.

    * At the beginning of each inning, Wendell would reportedly draw three crosses in the pitcher's mound dirt.

    * Whenever his catcher stood, Wendell would crouch down.

    * When entering or leaving the field, Wendell would always take a tremendous leap over the baseline.

    * Wendell would chew black licorice (an alternative to the chewing tobacco used by many players).

    * Wendell often brushed his teeth between innings (some claim that he brushed between every inning). While brushing, he often hid in the dugout, either by ducking behind objects or by facing the wall.

    * Wendell forcefully slammed his rosin bag onto the pitcher's mound between outs.

    * Wendell wore jersey number 99, in honor of Rick "Wild Thing" Vaughn, the main character in the movie Major League (played by Charlie Sheen).

    * Wendell wore a necklace made from the claws and teeth of various animals he had hunted and killed.

    * While in the minor leagues, Wendell was rumored to drink only orange juice (no food or any other drink) on days he pitched.

    * Wendell sometimes threw his glove into the stands when leaving a game.

I had no idea he was that out there.  Awsome.