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Big 12 South (Non BB)
« on: August 02, 2006, 03:49:35 pm »
OU just announced two players have been permanently barred from the football team...

Bomar is one...

Second name is pending...
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2006, 03:50:59 pm »
No fucking shit??

WOW.  

Any word yet on why?
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2006, 03:53:00 pm »
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for not working

not Peterson, although he did what Bomar did
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2006, 03:54:08 pm »
W O W.

Appreciate the help, Rhett.
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2006, 03:54:12 pm »
They were employed and being paid by a company for which they were doing no work...

Coincidentally, or not, it was the same Lexus dealership that was investigated for possibly giving Adrian Peterson a sweetheart deal on a new car...
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2006, 03:56:11 pm »
OU is trying to keep the NCAA at bay with a pre-emptive strike.
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2006, 03:57:09 pm »
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They were employed and being paid by a company for which they were doing no work...




and here I thought only aggies were dumb enough to do that
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2006, 04:00:43 pm »
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They were employed and being paid by a company for which they were doing no work...




and here I thought only aggies were dumb enough to do that



Would any aggie be surprised if some of these players were linked to Dallas Carter HS?
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2006, 04:01:17 pm »
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Second name is pending...


O-lineman JD Quinn.

Huge.
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2006, 04:15:29 pm »
Here's the article about the investigation of Peterson's car financing deal...

The Link

The best part is:

"Oklahoma also investigated the employment of football players by the dealership but found no violations."

It's the same dealership that was paying Bomar and Quinn...
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2006, 04:15:53 pm »
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and here I thought only aggies were dumb enough to do that



Nope not limited to OU or A&M.   UT baseball did the same thing with Trip Couch.

Everyone in the NCAA is dirty to some extent, to act as though some programs are holier than though is the epitome of having your head in the sand.

Not saying that you were implying that, but just people in general who think THEIR team does do such thing.  Or better yet, that their fans are "classier."
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2006, 04:16:07 pm »
C'moooooooooooooooooooooooooooondeathpenalty.....
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2006, 04:26:19 pm »
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C'moooooooooooooooooooooooooooondeathpenalty.....



Screw that shit.  They've got several years of on-field payback coming to them.
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2006, 04:28:49 pm »
Trip Couch? he was not a player.

every program is not dirty, Navin, and there are plenty of schools who work very hard to obey the rules.
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2006, 04:36:27 pm »
Maybe I am just a cynic Jim R, I just dont see how anyone could be totally clean.   Not with all the rules imposed by the NCAA.   IMO, everyone is dirty, some just stink a little worse than others.

BTW, the fact that Trip was a coach, doesnt make the cheating anything less then what it was, cheating.
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2006, 04:47:48 pm »
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Not with all the rules imposed by the NCAA.   IMO, everyone is dirty, some just stink a little worse than others.



Which rules force a school to cheat?
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2006, 04:49:41 pm »
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C'moooooooooooooooooooooooooooondeathpenalty.....



Screw that shit.  They've got several years of on-field payback coming to them.



Man, you sound like a fucking Okie.  Look at the all-time record in the series.  They needed almost 30 more years just to make it EVEN again.
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2006, 04:52:10 pm »
First off, them's fightin words.

Second, I know they're our bitch all time... I'm talking short-term memory, the only kind those inbred paperclips understand.
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2006, 04:54:57 pm »
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Not with all the rules imposed by the NCAA.   IMO, everyone is dirty, some just stink a little worse than others.



Which rules force a school to cheat?



Stuff like 13 ships you get to field a baseball team.   Or all the rules  on recruiting, practice time, limiting what kids can earn in the off season, etc...

I didnt say it "forces" anyone to cheat, but if you are going to compete, then you arent 100% compliant.
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2006, 04:54:58 pm »
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Trip Couch? he was not a player.

every program is not dirty, Navin, and there are plenty of schools who work very hard to obey the rules.



It is usually not the schools who screw up it is the fans or "boosters" who are trying to "help" but really bring on the NCAA.  Schools try to keep those guys in line but it is like trying to herd cats.
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2006, 05:05:49 pm »
Not to worry, my man.  We own them all-time, we're reigning National Champs, and we beat the shiz out of them last year.  

The Land Thieves are not our biggest concern anymore.  

Deathpenalty.
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2006, 05:19:15 pm »
I have no dog in this fight (although I'm from OK, I have always hated the Sooners), but as an SMU alum let me say that you don't want to wish the death penalty on anyone.

It is what it claims to be. There is no resurrection. Even 20 years later.
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Re: Big 12 South (Non BB)
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2006, 05:24:55 pm »
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I have no dog in this fight (although I'm from OK, I have always hated the Sooners), but as an SMU alum let me say that you don't want to wish the death penalty on anyone.

It is what it claims to be. There is no resurrection. Even 20 years later.



Which, last time such conversation arose among college football, is why it was widely speculated that it will never be used again, accept in the most extreme of situations.
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2006, 05:28:22 pm »
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Which, last time such conversation arose among college football, is why it was widely speculated that it will never be used again, accept in the most extreme of situations.



One talking head once described the death penalty similar to the atomic bomb.  Once you use it, you realize it's something you should never do again.
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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2006, 05:28:51 pm »
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It is usually not the schools who screw up it is the fans or "boosters" who are trying to "help" but really bring on the NCAA.  Schools try to keep those guys in line but it is like trying to herd cats.



A lot of wondering here in aggieland after the last booster almost "helped" our team into the death penalty, if the school or state could hold that individual accountable. Due to his actions, the school (state) lost some $20 million in lost TV and bowl revenue.

Could the state AG go after the individual?
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« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2006, 05:40:34 pm »
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Schools try to keep those guys in line but it is like trying to herd cats.


That was about the funniest commerical I ever saw... or at least top 10-15.

"Nothin' like bringing in a herd!"
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« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2006, 05:48:20 pm »
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It is usually not the schools who screw up it is the fans or "boosters" who are trying to "help" but really bring on the NCAA.  Schools try to keep those guys in line but it is like trying to herd cats.



A lot of wondering here in aggieland after the last booster almost "helped" our team into the death penalty, if the school or state could hold that individual accountable. Due to his actions, the school (state) lost some $20 million in lost TV and bowl revenue.

Could the state AG go after the individual?



Alabama passed a law back in the late 80's - early 90's to be able to go after agents who targeted college players too early.  If you remember Antonio Langham (think Miami reciever getting stripped of the ball from behind in the sugar bowl), he signed with an agent on a cocktail napkin in a New Orleans hotel and the state went after the agent.  I believe the law was ruled unconstitutional on appeal but that was one attempt.  

Schools do have proceedures in place to strip the booster of their relationship with the school.  Alabama again did this with Logan Young as a part of their attempt to avoid the death penalty.  As an Auburn fan, we can't get rid of our meddling booster, he is behind half the trustees of the school.
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