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Title: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: OregonStrosFan on March 14, 2011, 03:53:39 pm
Per Bill Hall. LINK (http://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2011/03/14/astors-bill-hall-calls-phillies-hamels-a-marked-man-after-altercation/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

He’s definitely a marked man for me now, so when I do some damage off him, I’m going to let him know I did some damage off him. I can guarantee that.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Ron Brand on March 14, 2011, 03:56:41 pm
Sounds like a guy who is just begging for some chin music, and the Phillies' staff is just the kind of guys who can give it to him if he wants to keep this up.

For pitching inside? In spring training? Please.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 14, 2011, 04:09:30 pm
Sounds like a guy who is just begging for some chin music, and the Phillies' staff is just the kind of guys who can give it to him if he wants to keep this up.

For pitching inside? In spring training? Please.

Apparently, it was a little closer than just inside and wasn't a pitch that got away from Hamels. I don't know if there's any history between those two. Still, Hall should have let the jawboning betwen he and Hamels during the game be the extent of it.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: moriartp on March 14, 2011, 04:11:33 pm
Still, Hall should have let the jawboning betwen he and Hamels during the game be the extent of it.

This right here.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Ron Brand on March 14, 2011, 04:15:37 pm
Apparently, it was a little closer than just inside and wasn't a pitch that got away from Hamels. I don't know if there's any history between those two. Still, Hall should have let the jawboning betwen he and Hamels during the game be the extent of it.

If he didn't go down, he really doesn't have much to gripe about. One pitch? Get a hit. Don't start something you can't win.

Do you think he would have had the same reaction if Halladay had thrown that pitch?
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 14, 2011, 04:18:39 pm
If he didn't go down, he really doesn't have much to gripe about. One pitch? Get a hit. Don't start something you can't win.

Do you think he would have had the same reaction if Halladay had thrown that pitch?

I agreewith you. However, the pitch apparently did knock Hall down. Both dugouts got warned. Given Hamels's mouthing off at Hall, it was apparently done on purpose, which is uncalled for during spring training. However, with that said, Hall shouldn't have run his piehole to the press, which eats that sort of shit up.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Ron Brand on March 14, 2011, 04:24:56 pm
I agreewith you. However, the pitch apparently did knock Hall down. Both dugouts got warned. Given Hamels's mouthing off at Hall, it was apparently done on purpose, which is uncalled for during spring training. However, with that said, Hall shouldn't have run his piehole to the press, which eats that sort of shit up.

He went down? Well he should've thrown the fucking bat, then! Where were his teammates?  They should have stomped that chickenshit into the ground. What kind of weak bushers are they running out on the field this year? Where is the RESPECT?
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 14, 2011, 04:31:53 pm
He went down? Well he should've thrown the fucking bat, then! Where were his teammates?  They should have stomped that chickenshit into the ground. What kind of weak bushers are they running out on the field this year? Where is the RESPECT?

If I had been Hamels, I'd have buzzed him again for running his mouth at me and taken an early shower.  He would have gotten on the links earlier.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Ron Brand on March 14, 2011, 04:38:33 pm
If I had been Hamels, I'd have buzzed him again for running his mouth at me and taken an early shower.  He would have gotten on the links earlier.

I agree. You can't let something that small escalate into a war, and that's what Hall seems to be interested in doing here.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 14, 2011, 04:49:40 pm
I agree. You can't let something that small escalate into a war, and that's what Hall seems to be interested in doing here.

Hall needs to concentrate his efforts on hitting the ball. .258 hitters (Hall's ST BA) should shut up and work on it.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: chuck on March 14, 2011, 05:00:23 pm
Bill Hall is completely in the right on this one. I'll give you a play by play tonight.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 14, 2011, 05:07:01 pm
Bill Hall is completely in the right on this one. I'll give you a play by play tonight.

As I wrote earlier, I assumed that Hamels threw at him. My objection was Hall running his mouth in the press afterwards.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Ron Brand on March 14, 2011, 05:17:14 pm
Bill Hall is completely in the right on this one. I'll give you a play by play tonight.

You don't think he overreacted? I'm looking forward to this almost as much as the pictures of Lady Limey.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Limey on March 14, 2011, 05:40:06 pm
FTR, Hall takes for...fucking...ever to get set in the batter's box.  Holding his hand up the the Ump the whole time too.  It's not a Nomaresque fidgetfest, but it takes a looooong time.

I can see an opposing pitcher getting frustrated.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 14, 2011, 06:10:19 pm
FTR, Hall takes for...fucking...ever to get set in the batter's box.  Holding his hand up the the Ump the whole time too.  It's not a Nomaresque fidgetfest, but it takes a looooong time.

I can see an opposing pitcher getting frustrated.

Is it Jeter-esque?
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: OregonStrosFan on March 15, 2011, 10:23:40 am
Chuck weighs on on Hall vs. Hamels... (http://www.spikesnstars.com/2011/03/15/chuck-on-hall-vs-hamels/)
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: austro on March 15, 2011, 10:30:01 am
Chuck weighs on on Hall vs. Hamels... (http://www.spikesnstars.com/2011/03/15/chuck-on-hall-vs-hamels/)

And gets us a photo of Taras Bulba's main squeeze, too!
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Limey on March 15, 2011, 10:52:07 am
Is it Jeter-esque?

Nowhere near such a dangerous smug level.  But he takes a while.

Based on chuck's recap of the event, I can see that Hall didn't do anything wrong...except yack to the press about Hamel.  CJ's dinger should've been all the talking required.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: jester9450 on March 15, 2011, 01:47:28 pm
Sometime a additude is needed  this team has been lacking one for a while.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: MusicMan on March 15, 2011, 02:14:05 pm
Sometime a additude is needed  this team has been lacking one for a while.

Like all that "attitude" the 2004-2005 teams had?
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: MikeyBoy on March 15, 2011, 02:25:48 pm
Sometime talent is needed  this team has been lacking it for a while.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: HudsonHawk on March 15, 2011, 02:58:46 pm
Like all that "attitude" the 2004-2005 teams had?

I think he means "additude".  This team is really bad at arithmetic.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: moriartp on March 15, 2011, 03:11:56 pm
I think he means "additude".  This team is really bad at arithmetic.

Might also be "ADDitude," listed officially in the ICD-10 as "Pence Disorder."
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: MusicMan on March 15, 2011, 03:23:41 pm
Might also be "ADDitude," listed officially in the ICD-10 as "Pence Disorder."

Nice.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Gizzmonic on March 15, 2011, 03:38:46 pm
Sometime a additude is needed  this team has been lacking one for a while.

Is that Hungarian rapper English?

Sometime, people fight a war (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Vaz9jW054)
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Reuben on March 15, 2011, 03:43:46 pm
Ahh, Cole is just pissy that he's only a #4 starter.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 15, 2011, 05:44:11 pm
Chuck weighs on on Hall vs. Hamels... (http://www.spikesnstars.com/2011/03/15/chuck-on-hall-vs-hamels/)

After reading Chuck's take, that was mostly on Laz Diaz. But I agree with him: Hamels was being a dick squared. Glad he got lit up. I still think that Hall shouldhave let his knock and CJ's dinger do all of the talking.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Lurch on March 15, 2011, 06:27:48 pm
After reading Chuck's take, that was mostly on Laz Diaz.

Everyone needs Spring Training...
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: MusicMan on March 15, 2011, 08:57:27 pm
MLB talking heads are playing "Grumpy Old Men" about Hall's complaints.  Wild Thing and Bowa both said that Hall should be wearing his next pitch from Hamels.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Ron Brand on March 15, 2011, 09:03:21 pm
I think he should've shut up, but to be fair both of those jackasses were Phillies.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Lurch on March 15, 2011, 09:14:43 pm
MLB talking heads are playing "Grumpy Old Men" about Hall's complaints.  Wild Thing and Bowa both said that Hall should be wearing his next pitch from Hamels.

They didn't seem to know the whole story, fwiw.  They think Hall was just mad about an inside pitch after a HR
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: chuck on March 15, 2011, 09:26:05 pm
After reading Chuck's take, that was mostly on Laz Diaz. But I agree with him: Hamels was being a dick squared. Glad he got lit up. I still think that Hall shouldhave let his knock and CJ's dinger do all of the talking.

As I mentioned I'm fine with everything that Hall did on the field, but I'm with you that he should not have spoken out about it. But remember that in spring games the reporters don't talk to the players after the game is over, they hotfoot it to the locker room once the starting pitcher comes out and certainly once the name players leave the game to get their quotes and so on. So Hall would still have been pretty fresh off the incident when he gave the quote.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: chuck on March 15, 2011, 09:38:33 pm
Is that Hungarian rapper English?

Sometime, people fight a war (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Vaz9jW054)

I'm watching this thinking, Fuck, this is as bad as Chocolate Rain. I then scroll through the suggestions and what do you know? There it is.

I just got a text from Nutsie. 'Hey, what's up with baseball this week?' Look at the schedule, bitch. And buy your own damn ticket.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Ty in Tampa on March 16, 2011, 07:29:41 am
I just got a text from Nutsie. 'Hey, what's up with baseball this week?' Look at the schedule, bitch. And buy your own damn ticket.

Gold.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Tralfaz on March 16, 2011, 08:40:11 am
FTR, Hall did not go down, just got brushed back. I find his comments kind of funny and am glad he's fired up.

Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Gizzmonic on March 16, 2011, 08:49:12 am
I'm watching this thinking, Fuck, this is as bad as Chocolate Rain. I then scroll through the suggestions and what do you know? There it is.

I just got a text from Nutsie. 'Hey, what's up with baseball this week?' Look at the schedule, bitch. And buy your own damn ticket.

My favorite line from that song: "I don't want a war, I want a piece."  Well said, my Hungarian brudder, well said.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: chuck on March 16, 2011, 10:42:05 am
My favorite line from that song: "I don't want a war, I want a piece."  Well said, my Hungarian brudder, well said.

It's business.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Gizzmonic on March 16, 2011, 10:55:46 am
It's business.

bznz.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: JimR on March 16, 2011, 12:07:08 pm
His comments were ridiculous, imo.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 16, 2011, 12:15:16 pm
I just got a text from Nutsie. 'Hey, what's up with baseball this week?' Look at the schedule, bitch. And buy your own damn ticket.

Good God, man! Why did you give Nutsie your phone number?
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: MusicMan on March 16, 2011, 12:16:39 pm
Good God, man! Why did you give Nutsie your phone number?

Even at Spring Training, a man has needs.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: chuck on March 16, 2011, 12:22:04 pm
Good God, man! Why did you give Nutsie your phone number?

I've been wondering the same thing. The truth is last year I thought my firm could do some work for her company. Fortunately just because the phone rings does not obligate one to answer it.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on March 16, 2011, 12:50:47 pm
The truth is last year I thought my firm could do some work for her company.

Another euphemism?
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: chuck on March 16, 2011, 01:05:04 pm
Another euphemism?

Firm may have been a poor choice, allowing excessive interprative latitude.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 16, 2011, 01:16:56 pm
Even at Spring Training, a man has needs.

But do you go down so far? I'd prefer to take matters into my own hand than pursue a nut.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: MusicMan on March 16, 2011, 01:18:13 pm
But do you go down so far? I'd prefer to take matters into my own hand than pursue a nut.

Not I, but I'm not as familiar with chuck's standards.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 16, 2011, 01:28:48 pm
Not I, but I'm not as familiar with chuck's standards.

You have a point: Chuck may allow the little head to think for him.
Title: Re: Cole Hamels: A Marked Man
Post by: moriartp on March 16, 2011, 02:00:17 pm
But do you go down so far?

That really depends on the sensitivity of your gag reflex.