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General Discussion => Talk Zone => Topic started by: wingnut on November 18, 2010, 10:22:28 pm
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http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/mlb/101118-astros-officially-for-sale
I suppose this means the front office will be tight with the payroll until any agreement is reached, not that I expected them to do much in free agency anyway.
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didn't he have a hard time selling the team for $500-600 million? I am interested to see how the franchise became that much more lucrative in the past year.
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didn't he have a hard time selling the team for $500-600 million? I am interested to see how the franchise became that much more lucrative in the past year.
You obviously didn't hear about the really big scoreboard.
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didn't he have a hard time selling the team for $500-600 million? I am interested to see how the franchise became that much more lucrative in the past year.
RSN = perceived ATM machine...
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@davidnuno (http://twitter.com/#!/davidnuno/status/5480092264300544): I had an email exchange with Mark Cuban, where he said he was not interested in buying the Astros.
Feelings are completely mixed on a potential sale. But this helps.
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RSN = perceived ATM machine...
i still don't think he is getting $800 million, even with comcast on board. forbes had the franchise deemed to be worth around $450 million seven months ago. i don't see how it adds $350 million to the price, but i could be wrong.
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@davidnuno (http://twitter.com/#!/davidnuno/status/5480092264300544): I had an email exchange with Mark Cuban, where he said he was not interested in buying the Astros.
Feelings are completely mixed on a potential sale. But this helps.
the best news ever.
and the price says to me that the team is for sale but drayton's not going to give it away. ie. not the Rangers.
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i still don't think he is getting $800 million, even with comcast on board. forbes had the franchise deemed to be worth around $450 million seven months ago. i don't see how it adds $350 million to the price, but i could be wrong.
Oh, I think the recent increase in sale price for the Rangers has Uncle D. convinced the Astros are worth even more, plus the RSN, and you have your answer. Is it reasonable? Probably not. But neither was paying 580mil for the Rangers.
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It's pretty hard to judge what's reasonable without seeing the books, right?
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It's pretty hard to judge what's reasonable without seeing the books, right?
Prove you have at least $750 million and you can see the books.
Sounds like a bargain.
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It's pretty hard to judge what's reasonable without seeing the books, right?
Agree 100%. Last time anyone got close to that, there were reports of shenanigans (last strike, I believe). Anyway, he has to have a reason for asking that much. Time will tell if he can get it.
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Agree 100%. Last time anyone got close to that, there were reports of shenanigans (last strike, I believe). Anyway, he has to have a reason for asking that much. Time will tell if he can get it.
The books he shows prospective buyers, presumably backed by warranties in the sale agreement, will likely contain fewer shenanigans than those that were opened up during the strike. Unless he wants to get sued.
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The books he shows prospective buyers, presumably backed by warranties in the sale agreement, will likely contain fewer shenanigans than those that were opened up during the strike. Unless he wants to get sued.
Agreed. But unlike the Rangers and Cubs, it's going to be difficult for Drayton to "wash" the Astros through Chapter 11 to protect the new owner from "unforeseen" liabilities. Due diligence is going to be much, much more stringent as a result.
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Well, after Arky and Limey's updates, the only addition I have is that this just made the Void a little more interesting. I sure as hell don't want to spend the void arguing about application of baseball statistics!
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Well, after Arky and Limey's updates, the only addition I have is that this just made the Void a little more interesting. I sure as hell don't want to spend the void arguing about application of baseball statistics!
What was Drayton's VORO the last few years?
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Perhaps this is the pre-Black Friday mark up so he can then show it being available for 30% off. My wife is already calculating where she needs to be in line to have a shot.
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Prove you have at least $750 million and you can see the books.
Sounds like a bargain.
Well shit.
If someone in here can lend me $17 for a week, we can see the books.
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Perhaps this is the pre-Black Friday mark up so he can then show it being available for 30% off. My wife is already calculating where she needs to be in line to have a shot.
Santa, can the new owner:
1. Bring lots and lots of money but even more in baseball savvy?
2. Restore the original colors and uniform design?
3. Remove Tal's Hill and Tal, if neccessary?
4. Have Pam Gardner and her trunk of dominatrix gear thrown on the street by noon of the sales date?
5. Blow up that ridiculous goddamn choo-choo train? If possible, on opening day?
6. Round up all of the Houston area Mormon missionaries and their warm smiles and eagerness to please and all that shit and employ them in the food and beverage venues instead of the current "service" staff. Also, serve actual food.
7. Shut off the godawful music and "make noise" devices. Get a decent organ player. And, a monkey trained to fling shit at Cubs fans.
8. Employ a plane to fly over the Dell Diamond with a trailing banner of "Enjoy Your Arena Ball, Fuckheads" or similar themes.
9. Permanently cease Nolan Ryan promotional items.
10. Dip cups to the first 10,000 patrons.
11. Un-retire every number except 5 and 7.
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Santa, can the new owner:
1. Bring lots and lots of money but even more in baseball savvy?
2. Restore the original colors and uniform design?
3. Remove Tal's Hill and Tal, if neccessary?
4. Have Pam Gardner and her trunk of dominatrix gear thrown on the street by noon of the sales date?
5. Blow up that ridiculous goddamn choo-choo train? If possible, on opening day?
6. Round up all of the Houston area Mormon missionaries and their warm smiles and eagerness to please and all that shit and employ them in the food and beverage venues instead of the current "service" staff. Also, serve actual food.
7. Shut off the godawful music and "make noise" devices. Get a decent organ player. And, a monkey trained to fling shit at Cubs fans.
8. Employ a plane to fly over the Dell Diamond with a trailing banner of "Enjoy Your Arena Ball, Fuckheads" or similar themes.
9. Permanently cease Nolan Ryan promotional items.
10. Dip cups to the first 10,000 patrons.
11. Un-retire every number except 5 and 7.
12. Fire all Astros major league radio personalities (edit: allow one to retire)
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13. STOP OVERPAYING FOR WASHED-UP VETERANS!
14. FIRE ED WADE
15. RE-HIRE ED WADE
16. FIRE HIM AGAIN
17. PAY GERRY WHATEVER HE WANTS
18. MAKE VoR HEAD OF PLAYER PERSONNEL
19. SIGN JETER. IGNORE #13.
There, I just saved everyone a trip to Chron.com.
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12. Fire all Astros major league radio personalities (edit: allow one to retire)
12a. Ask Brown and Deshaies what they're making and then double it.
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Suppose to be a press conference any minute on Fox Sports Houston (about sale)
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Sounds like he's pretty serious about it (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/7302783.html).
Drayton McLane announced Friday that he plans to "change and move forward."
"Our family has loved being involved with the Houston Astros," a nostalgic McLane said at a press conference at Minute Maid Park.
"But it's time to change and move forward."
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Sounds like he's pretty serious about it (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/7302783.html).
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Drayton put the team up for sale last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
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"There's no rush to do this. We haven't set a price."
The RSN figures heavily into his sales pitch.
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Live feed. (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=6261176)
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MOST.BORING.NEWS CONFERENCE. EVER.
It's no wonder McLane keeps Milo around. Compared to McLane, Milo is a vibrant and entertaining voice. I wanted to snap my slap him upside the head and tell him to get to the friggin point.
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I'm just glad he's not selling the team because his seats have been possessed by the DEBBIL!!! Ever since a certain evening (http://www.spikesnstars.com/docs/wp-content/uploads/yybodeus.gif)...
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I'm just glad he's not selling the team because his seats have been possessed by the DEBBIL!!! Ever since a certain evening (http://www.spikesnstars.com/docs/wp-content/uploads/yybodeus.gif)...
Never. Ever. Gets. Old.
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I'm actually kind of worried. Drayton has his shortcomings, but it could be a lot, lot worse. I'll keep my fingers crossed. The odds of a wily baseball purist who can tick off items on Taras's list purchasing the team is far less than a marketing-focused ass clown buying the club, just given the general wily baseball purist to marketing-focused ass clown ratio among those with hundreds of millions of dollars.
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I'm actually kind of worried. Drayton has his shortcomings, but it could be a lot, lot worse. I'll keep my fingers crossed. The odds of a wily baseball purist who can tick off items on Taras's list purchasing the team is far less than a marketing-focused ass clown buying the club, just given the general wily baseball purist to marketing-focused ass clown ratio among those with hundreds of millions of dollars.
That's why I'm praying to Santa. I know damn well the baseball gods could give a flying fuck.
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I'm actually kind of worried. Drayton has his shortcomings, but it could be a lot, lot worse. I'll keep my fingers crossed. The odds of a wily baseball purist who can tick off items on Taras's list purchasing the team is far less than a marketing-focused ass clown buying the club, just given the general wily baseball purist to marketing-focused ass clown ratio among those with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Yeah.
If only Hicks could've held it together for another year. If only Ryan would've been able to get his hands on $800 million or so.
Get behind me, Mark Cuban. You is da debbil.
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I'm actually kind of worried. Drayton has his shortcomings, but it could be a lot, lot worse. I'll keep my fingers crossed. The odds of a wily baseball purist who can tick off items on Taras's list purchasing the team is far less than a marketing-focused ass clown buying the club, just given the general wily baseball purist to marketing-focused ass clown ratio among those with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Just because Drayton sells the team, it doesn't necessarily mean that the new owner is going to be David Glass or worse.
Drayton is the best owner the Astros have ever had. Much of their success from 1994-today can be attributed to him. That doesn't mean a new owner couldn't be even better.
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I'm actually kind of worried. Drayton has his shortcomings, but it could be a lot, lot worse. I'll keep my fingers crossed. The odds of a wily baseball purist who can tick off items on Taras's list purchasing the team is far less than a marketing-focused ass clown buying the club, just given the general wily baseball purist to marketing-focused ass clown ratio among those with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Drayton has a demonstrable track record that he will open his wallet when the competitive need has been paramount. Any potential new owner is unknown territory.
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I'm actually kind of worried. Drayton has his shortcomings, but it could be a lot, lot worse. I'll keep my fingers crossed. The odds of a wily baseball purist who can tick off items on Taras's list purchasing the team is far less than a marketing-focused ass clown buying the club, just given the general wily baseball purist to marketing-focused ass clown ratio among those with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Keep in mind, while still not in favor of the baseball purists, the fact that Mark Cuban took himself out the running shifted the odds dramatically. See, he has what is called the d-bag amplifier effect. The sheer magnitude of his d-bag qualities quadruples his statistical weight in assessing the marketing focused ass clown portion of this analysis. I can show you the numbers if you wish, but I assume this in intuitive to 97% of the population (excluding the top 3%-ers like you know who, who probably thinks Cuban would be a great owner, and would surely be open to his statistical analysis unlike other so-called "professionals").
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Keep in mind, while still not in favor of the baseball purists, the fact that Mark Cuban took himself out the running shifted the odds dramatically. See, he has what is called the d-bag amplifier effect. The sheer magnitude of his d-bag qualities quadruples his statistical weight in assessing the marketing focused ass clown portion of this analysis. I can show you the numbers if you wish, but I assume this in intuitive to 97% of the population (excluding the top 3%-ers like you know who, who probably thinks Cuban would be a great owner, and would surely be open to his statistical analysis unlike other so-called "professionals").
Would this be measured by VORDB?
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I'm just glad he's not selling the team because his seats have been possessed by the DEBBIL!!! Ever since a certain evening (http://www.spikesnstars.com/docs/wp-content/uploads/yybodeus.gif)...
ybbodeus is an Anglican. If you recall, he had eaten a lot of olives that evening. The sultry taste of the Mediterranean had a curious affect on his constitution, used to porridge and potted meat products.
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That's why I'm praying to Santa. I know damn well the baseball gods could give a flying fuck.
Help me Tom Cruise! Tom Cruise, use your witchcraft to get us the perfect owner!!
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Drayton has a demonstrable track record that he will open his wallet when the competitive need has been paramount. Any potential new owner is unknown territory.
You should listen to him. He's an EPL fan.
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ybbodeus is an Anglican. If you recall, he had eaten a lot of olives that evening. The sultry taste of the Mediterranean had a curious affect on his constitution, used to porridge and potted meat products.
So...he was gas fired?
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Would this be measured by VORDB?
Certainly... interesting statistic when applied properly.
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The odds of a wily baseball purist who can tick off items on Taras's list purchasing the team is far less than a marketing-focused ass clown buying the club, just given the general wily baseball purist to marketing-focused ass clown ratio among those with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Wile E. baseball purist, thank you.
Please continue.
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Wile E. baseball purist, thank you.
Please continue.
Identity theft is a serious crime!
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@alysonfooter: At the end of his address to media, Funny moment. Drayton: "Any more questions? Ideas? Or anybody with a lot of money?"
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@alysonfooter: At the end of his address to media, Funny moment. Drayton: "Any more questions? Ideas? Or anybody with a lot of money?"
Chortle, chortle, chortle.
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Chortle, chortle, chortle.
harumph harumph harumph.
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harumph harumph harumph.
I didn't get a harumph out of that guy!
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I didn't get a harumph out of that guy!
Pass these out to the boys in lieu of pay...
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ybbodeus is an Anglican. If you recall, he had eaten a lot of olives that evening. The sultry taste of the Mediterranean had a curious affect on his constitution, used to porridge and potted meat products.
And I was having such a good day...
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Maybe we can all just pitch in. I got 5 on it.
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Maybe we can all just pitch in. I got 5 on it.
I'll sell programs with a smile if Budgirl serves the beer and Coach GMs.
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20-25 people (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/7330831.html) have expressed interest so far.
Wow... I was under the impression that there were far fewer interested in and capable of owning a team
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20-25 people (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/7330831.html) have expressed interest so far.
Wow... I was under the impression that there were far fewer interested in and capable of owning a team
Last I saw was a lot of people yakking it up but nothing serious yet.
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20-25 people (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/7330831.html) have expressed interest so far.
Wow... I was under the impression that there were far fewer interested in and capable of owning a team
They might be counting people from this thread.
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Last I saw was a lot of people yakking it up but nothing serious yet.
Yeah, also heard that although alot of interest, Drayton say's he hasn't "opened the books" to anyone. Whatever that means.
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Yeah, also heard that although alot of interest, Drayton say's he hasn't "opened the books" to anyone. Whatever that means.
It means no one has said "here's my latest checking account statement...notice the balance shows 10 figures *before* the decimal point..."
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20-25 people (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/7330831.html) have expressed interest so far.
Wow... I was under the impression that there were far fewer interested in and capable of owning a team
I'm thinking he hired Scott Boras as his PR man.
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Overview of the process to date:
Step 1 - Owner indicates interest in selling to investment banks
Step 2 - Investment banks all pitch for the opportunity to sell the firm. Presentation with figures that induce the largest erection from the owner often wins.
Step 3 - Boner-inducing investment bank puts together "teaser" (Think victoria secret catalog level of sexiness) on the opportunity to blast to "potentially interested parties" (i.e. anyone that can afford to be involved or form a group that can afford).
Step 4 - Investment banking group promises to "open the books" to interested parties ("take it all off") as long as the parties promise not to tell anyone (sign an NDA).
Step 5 - Some of the "interested parties" will sign an NDA just to get the opportunity to stare at her tits and a couple might genuinely want to fuck her.
That's where the team is right now. Probably the "20-25 interested parties" is comprised of a group of people that only want to stare at her tits for a while with a couple fuckworthy parties sprinkled in.
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A nice run down from a guy who's been involved in M&A as well. However, you forgot to mention that the IBs also sprinkle in some Viagra or other medicine to make said boner look bigger than it actually is... Or that the IB is probably telling the various "interested parties" that she's an easier lay than she lets on
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This is the sexiest conversation to ever involve Drayton McLane.
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This is the sexiest conversation to ever involve Drayton McLane.
Please don't encourage JA to re-post his Drayton Hasselhoff pick.
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Please don't encourage JA to re-post his Drayton Hasselhoff pick.
you just did.
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Now I started thinking about an Erik Estrada/Drayton combination! with the caption "YOU'RE A CHAMPION"
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Now I started thinking about an Erik Estrada/Drayton combination!
If late 70s May/December gay porn is your thing, then who are we to say you're wrong.
Never mind... that's just wrong.
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If late 70s MaySeptember/December gay porn is your thing, then who are we to say you're wrong.
FIFY.
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Please don't encourage JA to re-post his Drayton Hasselhoff pick.
I'm sorry, did someone just request some Friday Cheesecake?
(http://www.spikesnstars.com/docs/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/drayton-semi.jpg)
You're welcome, ladies.
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The horror...the horror.
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Kill it! Kill it with fire!!
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Paging Spack McGrimm. Spack please come to the Fox 26 thread.
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I've masked off all but a sliver of my computer screen so I can still read threads and never run into anything so hideous ever again.
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I don't get what is so bad.
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I don't get what is so bad.
I think it's the head.
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"Mr. McLane, you're one sexy man. When I get out of here, maybe you and I should get together..." NTTAWWT.
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I think it's the head.
BudGirl can probably be forgiven for not noticing the head.
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Paging Spack McGrimm. Spack please come to the Fox 26 thread.
Why? You jealous of his cock? Or mine?
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Why? You jealous of his cock? Or mine?
On the internet, my cock is as big as yours.
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I'm sorry, did someone just request some Friday Cheesecake?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FHzhz1gm0TM/SkQxo7M7C6I/AAAAAAAAB_s/KzSOte5OLjs/s400/Face+Melt.jpg)
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Why? You jealous of his cock? Or mine?
Whatever became of Spider Pelini?
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In the no news is still no news department, Neyer tweets: Mark Cuban's not going after Mets or Dodgers or any other baseball team
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In the no news is still no news department, Neyer tweets: Mark Cuban's not going after Mets or Dodgers or any other baseball team
That's the no news is good news department.
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That's the no news is good news department.
(http://thumbnails.truveo.com/0018/E5/07/E5077F66A7436021761244_Large.jpg)