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Title: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: jonbloozy on August 08, 2008, 12:42:16 pm
Berkman disagrees with error call (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080807&content_id=3272673&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou&partnerId=rss_hou)

I must have missed this play last night (Oswalt catches pop out, flips to Berkman to double off runner, ball gets away).  Scorekeepers, what should the ruling have been?
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: tophfar on August 08, 2008, 12:50:24 pm
is anyone else as confused as i am, about the title of this thread and its content?
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: EasTexAstro on August 08, 2008, 12:50:53 pm
is anyone else as confused as i am, about the title of this thread and its content?

yup
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: matadorph on August 08, 2008, 12:51:26 pm
Berkman is correct that it shouldn't have been an error, but he still should've made the play. Roy's toss was on the money and Lance just flubbed it.
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: austro on August 08, 2008, 12:52:28 pm
is anyone else as confused as i am, about the title of this thread and its content?

I can only assume that some really offensive post is in the offing.
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: jonbloozy on August 08, 2008, 12:53:53 pm
Just trying to get your attention
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: homer on August 08, 2008, 12:55:07 pm
Just trying to get your attention

Wow. Make me number one.
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: TheWizard on August 08, 2008, 12:56:34 pm
is anyone else as confused as i am, about the title of this thread and its content?
Yes.
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: MusicMan on August 08, 2008, 01:05:34 pm
Just trying to get your attention be an asshole

FIFY
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: Lurch on August 08, 2008, 01:06:55 pm
Just trying to get your attention

Incredibly lame. Take that shit to AD.
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: geezerdonk on August 08, 2008, 01:09:20 pm
A Brandon Mylenek appearance in the TZ.
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: Gizzmonic on August 08, 2008, 01:19:03 pm
Berkman disagrees with error call (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080807&content_id=3272673&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou&partnerId=rss_hou)

I must have missed this play last night (Oswalt catches pop out, flips to Berkman to double off runner, ball gets away).  Scorekeepers, what should the ruling have been?

I don't think they have racially-based split stats at MLB.com.  You might have to go to Elias for that.
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: legs_of_eggs on August 08, 2008, 01:30:58 pm
Didn't the Astros win last night's game? Who cares about the error? And if he's complaining for the sake of a Gold Glove being on the line, doesn't he know offense dictates that award coupled with popularity?
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: Duman on August 08, 2008, 01:45:02 pm
Berkman disagrees with error call (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080807&content_id=3272673&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou&partnerId=rss_hou)

I must have missed this play last night (Oswalt catches pop out, flips to Berkman to double off runner, ball gets away).  Scorekeepers, what should the ruling have been?

Here is the relevant piece from the rule book Official Scorer section 10.12:

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whose misplay (fumble, muff or wild throw) prolongs the time at bat of a batter, prolongs the presence on the bases of a runner or permits a runner to advance one or more bases, unless, in the judgment of the official scorer, such fielder deliberately permits a foul fly to fall safe with a runner on third base before two are out in order that the runner on third shall not score after the catch;

Personally I wouldn't have called it an error but it is there by the letter of the law.
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: HudsonHawk on August 08, 2008, 01:49:08 pm
Berkman is correct that it shouldn't have been an error, but he still should've made the play. Roy's toss was on the money and Lance just flubbed it.

If he should have made the play, it's an error.
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: jonbloozy on August 08, 2008, 01:52:45 pm
Here is the relevant piece from the rule book Official Scorer section 10.12:

Personally I wouldn't have called it an error but it is there by the letter of the law.

Cool, thanks for that.  I just thought it was weird that they'd still give him the error without the runner advancing.

For the record, the topic is meant as a joke.  Sorry if the preposterousness (preposterousity?) of the topic makes you call me names or put me on ignore.  No offense intended.  
Title: Re: Astros Pitching: Dark Skinned vs. Light Skinned
Post by: The Spleen on August 08, 2008, 10:58:27 pm
Bridgekeeper: What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen fastball?
King Cecil: What do you mean? An African or European fastball?
Bridgekeeper: Huh? I... I don't know that.
[he is thrown off the bridge]
Bridgekeeper: Auuuuuuuugh!
Sir Justice: How do you know so much about fastballs?
King Cecil: Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.