Draft 2010

[Duman]

ESPN is speculating that Houston might still be looking at a catcher with the #8 pick in the draft: Crazy Talk

Chances are that one of those two (Towles or Castro), or possibly Quintero, are the answer in the mean time, but the Astros select No. 8 in the first round of June's First-year Player Draft, and could tab their future backstop then, too.

Miami's Yasmani Grandal and LSU's Micah Gibbs are among the top college backstops available this year, and Grandal could land in Houston's lap if they don't believe Castro is their guy.

[MusicMan]

I'm no amateur draft expert, but that sounds asinine.

[austro]

That's the first mention I've ever seen that the Astros might not believe that Castro's their guy.

[moriartp]

Sure, ESPN. They took two possible catchers in the top ten rounds in '09 (J. Meyer and E. Castro), but they decided to play both at 3B just because they don't think Jason Castro is their guy. Crazy talk indeed.

[S.P. Rodriguez]

Seems like a basic case where outside speculators can't draw a line between two points without injecting a third.  I would wager if Houston  is, in fact, looking at either of those players it's because of their overall ability, not position.  Heck and Wade have said so, repeatedly.  I don't see a need to extrapolate further on the matter.  Then again, I'm not a sportswriter. 

As an aside, has it ever occurred that both the starting catcher and backup catcher had the same last name (J. Castro and E. Castro)?  Setting aside the "The Astro's Castros" opportunity, I think the trivia aspect is enough reason to give E. Castro a cup of coffee (I'm assuming Jason Castro is a lock for the majors).   

[Hornstros]

I hope we don't draft Yasmani Grandal from Miami.   We'd be opening the door for 'grundle' jokes for years to come.  It would be much more convenient if the Cubs drafted this guy

[Leeaire]

Eh? Castro not the guy? Are they basing this off the fact that he didn't make the team out of spring training? Oh Espn, how you make me chuckle. Yeah Castro might not end up being that slugging hr hitting catcher we are all so so sooo accustom to seeing in the bigs *rolls eyes*...but he does look like a guy who will hit a good .280 to .300 with a lot of doubles and walks. Not to mention, I've only heard good things about his skills behind the plate...mlb teams don't care about a catcher being able to catch or call a game though according to espn.

[jbm]

I know it is here somewhere. I recall 3 picks in the top ? for the Astros. What draft slots do they have.

Whatever they are, I will remain extremely positive with Wade/Heck at the helm.

[Jacksonian]

I know it is here somewhere. I recall 3 picks in the top ? for the Astros. What draft slots do they have.

Whatever they are, I will remain extremely positive with Wade/Heck at the helm.

8, 19, and 33 to start.  That's 3 of the Astros top 33 ranked amateurs this June.

[OregonStrosFan]

8, 19, and 33 to start.  That's 3 of the Astros top 33 ranked amateurs this June.

And 5 in the top 100 (2nd round = 58 and 3rd round = 90)

[OregonStrosFan]

I haven't seen a ton of mock drafts yet (as its still early for that), but here are a couple from the MLB Bonus Baby site (pretty good place to get draft and draft prospect info):

Mock draft #4: first round; first round supplemental.

1st round (pick #8): Austin Wilson, OF, Harvard-Westlake HS (CA) – This pick assumes that Wilson doesn’t want $10 million, not that I’m saying I’ve heard anything about him wanting that much. Wilson represents the best raw upside in the entire hitting class outside of Harper, and the Astros typically love their raw, powerful, athletic hitters. With a pair of first-round picks, it’s questionable that they could afford an Austin Wilson type of prospect, but don’t underestimate them. Previously: 17, 13, 10.

1st round (pick #19): Kevin Gausman, RHP, Grandview HS (CO) – It really bothers me when I continually plug in the same player in the same slot over a number of mock drafts. However, this pick just makes too much sense. The Astros really like projectable prep arms with good command and plenty of potential, and they also aren’t afraid to find those pitchers in non-traditional baseball states. Gausman fits all of that criteria, and his season is just heating up. Previously: 27, 19, 19.

1st round supplemental (pick #33): Robbie Aviles, RHP, Suffern HS (NY) – The Astros have been building strong pitching depth through the draft in the two years since Bobby Heck took over, and I expect more of the same this year. After getting their hitting prospect with Austin Wilson early, going with Gausman and Aviles, a pair of high-ceiling arms in the Astros’ style of drafting would make a lot of sense. No matter who the names are on draft day, I expect the Astros to walk away with at least a pair of high-level arms. Previously: NR, 42, 31.

[DallasAstro]

There is no way we draft a catcher in the first 2/3 rounds.   Looking at our drafting under Heck, we draft best available but also somewhat for need.   We will draft at least 2 pitchers in the first 3 rounds - have done well over the past 2 years (Bushue and Lyles). 

[juliogotay]

Is there an eventual replacement for Berkman that may be a good pick for one of those slots? Seems to me a big hole in the organization.

[Jacksonian]

Is there an eventual replacement for Berkman that may be a good pick for one of those slots? Seems to me a big hole in the organization.

Right now there's no obvious replacement.  This draft doesn't really have a 1b you'd look at right now and say, "That's the guy."

[Jacksonian]

Right now, I have the odd feeling that the Astros are going to go college player at 8, high school at 19, college at 33.

[Reuben]

Right now, I have the odd feeling that the Astros are going to go college player at 8, high school at 19, college at 33.

You're thinking of specific guys, or just a concerted effort to get some polished guys who could be on the fast track (as opposed to last year, when they were very high-school/potential-heavy in the early going)?

[Jacksonian]

You're thinking of specific guys, or just a concerted effort to get some polished guys who could be on the fast track (as opposed to last year, when they were very high-school/potential-heavy in the early going)?

Because there's no way the Astros will know who will be available when they pick, concerted effort.  Getting young talent to the majors just as fast as possible, ala Castro.

[OregonStrosFan]

Because there's no way the Astros will know who will be available when they pick, concerted effort.  Getting young talent to the majors just as fast as possible, ala Castro.

I'm not so sure...  The first 4 picks in each of the 2 years of Heck drafting have included 1 collegian (Castro) and 7 HSers (3 pitchers, 4 position players).  Maybe if someone like Zach Cox (JR Arkansas, 3B/possible 2B) is there at 8th they'd go with him, but otherwise I'd WAG that there will be at least 2 HSers in the first 3 picks (and very possibly 3).

[OregonStrosFan]

MLB Bonus Baby has his 5th Mock draft up.  LINK

(And yes, he does agree that it's too early to really know who the teams may pick but thinks the mocks are a fun exercise.  I'd agree...)

8. Houston Astros - Zack Cox, 3B, Arkansas - I keep coming back to pairing Cox and the Astros together, and this is the third mock I've done so. It just makes a lot of sense from multiple standpoints. He should be pretty affordable for close to slot money for a team with a couple extra early picks, he fits a mold for solid hitting and power projection, and he also fills an organizational need at either third or second base. Previously: #10.

19. Houston Astros - Kaleb Cowart, RHP, Cook County HS (GA) - Though the feeling in the scouting community is still split on Cowart's long-term position, I see a team that values athleticism on the mound jumping on him early as a pitcher. The Astros love athletic arms with projectability and a decent pitch mix, and Cowart has both. Previously: #20.

[Jacksonian]

MLB Bonus Baby has his 5th Mock draft up.  LINK

(And yes, he does agree that it's too early to really know who the teams may pick but thinks the mocks are a fun exercise.  I'd agree...)

8. Houston Astros - Zack Cox, 3B, Arkansas - I keep coming back to pairing Cox and the Astros together, and this is the third mock I've done so. It just makes a lot of sense from multiple standpoints. He should be pretty affordable for close to slot money for a team with a couple extra early picks, he fits a mold for solid hitting and power projection, and he also fills an organizational need at either third or second base. Previously: #10.

19. Houston Astros - Kaleb Cowart, RHP, Cook County HS (GA) - Though the feeling in the scouting community is still split on Cowart's long-term position, I see a team that values athleticism on the mound jumping on him early as a pitcher. The Astros love athletic arms with projectability and a decent pitch mix, and Cowart has both. Previously: #20.

I'm going to disagree on the first and agree on 19.  From his mock I think the Astros would look at McGuire and Colon over Cox.  Both are definite up the middle guys.  Cox may or may not be one.  And defensively he'sd not going to have great range at 2b, something Wade covets.  At 19 athletic guy with a power arm.  Sounds like a stronger version of Lyles.  Also, from this mock I'd have the Astros going after Paxton at 33.

[MusicMan]

Any thought of the Astros going after the Woodlands pitcher at #8?

[OregonStrosFan]

Any thought of the Astros going after the Woodlands pitcher at #8?

Jameson Taillon.  I haven't seen many (if any) that think he'll drop that far.

[moriartp]

With the lack of standout bats in the system, I wouldn't be surprised to see Heck go for a corner bat. Cox, Choice, and Brentz might all be in play. If Heck likes what he sees in prep bats Austin Wilson or Josh Sale, they're also possibilities. I'm not convinced they'll be looking specifically for college guys.

[Jacksonian]

With the lack of standout bats in the system, I wouldn't be surprised to see Heck go for a corner bat. Cox, Choice, and Brentz might all be in play. If Heck likes what he sees in prep bats Austin Wilson or Josh Sale, they're also possibilities. I'm not convinced they'll be looking specifically for college guys.

They definitely go after best player available.  But, in the first 2 rounds especially that has been in the minds of the Astros brass up the middle guys.  In the first 2 rounds the past 2 drafts they have taken 5 up the middle players with those 5 picks.  Too, in the first 10 rounds the past 2 years the Astros have drafted 23 players.  18 of those have been up the middle guys.  History says if they go for Cox, either he's a 3b to them and much higher on their board than anyone else or they see him as a 2b long-term.  IMO though they won't just draft a bat without a premium position that high in the draft.  They didn't take Smoak 2 years ago.

[juliogotay]

They definitely go after best player available.  But, in the first 2 rounds especially that has been in the minds of the Astros brass up the middle guys.  In the first 2 rounds the past 2 drafts they have taken 5 up the middle players with those 5 picks.  Too, in the first 10 rounds the past 2 years the Astros have drafted 23 players.  18 of those have been up the middle guys.  History says if they go for Cox, either he's a 3b to them and much higher on their board than anyone else or they see him as a 2b long-term.  IMO though they won't just draft a bat without a premium position that high in the draft.  They didn't take Smoak 2 years ago.

Seems to me that corner IFers and corner OFers are the systems' shortcomings these days. I guess this explains why that may be.

[Jacksonian]

Seems to me that corner IFers and corner OFers are the systems' shortcomings these days. I guess this explains why that may be.

Not entirely.  The best players in high school are generally up the middle players.  As they age their skill sets sometimes mature into something more suited to a corner position.  For all we know Mier will end up a 3b by the time he turns 25.

Too, prior to 2008 the system was short on everything so going from short everywhere to short mostly on the corners in 2+ years ain't bad.

Also, of the 5 corner positions they've drafted 1 didn't sign, and one, Nash, is in extended.  The others were drafted closer to 10 than 1.

[OregonStrosFan]

Sickels over at minor league ball has some posts on 'Interesting High School Hitters over at minor league ball.  Fun to get a look at some of the folks the 'Stros will be keeping an eye on with those 4 out of the first 58 picks.  Sickels intro to the posts:

Here are high school hitters likely to go in the first round or supplemental round of the 2010 draft. This is the first eight names, alpabetically. Another eight high schoolers will follow later today. College hitters will follow in a separate report.

Interesting High School Hitters for the 2010 Draft: Part One / Part Two

[jaklewein]

19. Houston Astros - Kaleb Cowart, RHP, Cook County HS (GA) - Though the feeling in the scouting community is still split on Cowart's long-term position, I see a team that values athleticism on the mound jumping on him early as a pitcher. The Astros love athletic arms with projectability and a decent pitch mix, and Cowart has both. Previously: #20.
[/quote]

It will be much tougher to sign Cowart as a pitcher.  His preference is to play in the field.

[MusicMan]

19. Houston Astros - Kaleb Cowart, RHP, Cook County HS (GA) - Though the feeling in the scouting community is still split on Cowart's long-term position, I see a team that values athleticism on the mound jumping on him early as a pitcher. The Astros love athletic arms with projectability and a decent pitch mix, and Cowart has both. Previously: #20.


It will be much tougher to sign Cowart as a pitcher.  His preference is to play in the field.

What teenaged boy doesn't want to play the field?

[jaklewein]

What teenaged boy doesn't want to play the field?

Guess I'm master of the obvious yet again.

[OregonStrosFan]

Sickels at Minor League Ball has posted his first mock draft.  1st round LINK; 1st round supplemental LINK

In doing this mock draft, I'm considering signability, projected budgets, and past drafting patterns for each team. The draft is still a month away and lots of things will change in the interim, so don't take this too seriously. It is meant as a way to get discussion going more than anything else at this point. Note that this is NOT a draft ranking list of how I rate the talent.

8) Zach Cox, 3B, University of Arkansas.  Cox has the right mix of affordability and upside to attract the budget-conscious-but-no-longer-completely-insane- on-draft-day Astros.

19) Alex Wimmers, RHP, Ohio State University.  Should be affordable, and won't need long in the minors.

33) Aaron Sanchez, RHP, Barstow High School, California.  Excellent athlete and very projectable, could easily go higher than this. Would provide some high school leavening for college picks in the first round.

[moriartp]

BA put up an article today (behind the pay wall) featuring Henderson RHP Tyrell Jenkins.

Stop me if this sounds familiar: 6'4"/180lb RHP, good athlete, multi-sport star, up to 94 on the fastball, mid-seventies curve, very coachable, one of the youngest players in the draft class.

Sounds like Bobby Heck's wet dream, but it's impossible to say which pitchers the Astros are going to target specifically. I'll say this, though--I'll eat my hat if Heck doesn't snag a Jenkins type in the first three rounds. Biggest difference separating Jenkins from Lyles/Bushue seems to be that all 30 teams are in on him.


Baseball Beginnings on Jenkins (offering a bit of a different take).

[OregonStrosFan]

Jesse Biddle, 6'5" southpaw from Germantown Friends HS in PA is apparently getting a lot of looks from Astros scouts:  LINK (h/t/ Astros County)

[And yes, I know that there a lot of players getting a lot of looks from Astros scouts.  Still, it's draft buzz...]

It comes with the territory when you're a 6-foot-5, 235-pound lefthander equipped with a blazing fastball, recently clocked at an eye-popping 94 m.p.h., an effective 12-to-6 curveball, and an improving slider and change-up.  The buzz, if signability is not an issue, is that Biddle could be selected between Rounds No. 2 and No. 4 of the first-year player draft a month from now.  "He's a 6-5 lefthander," said one scout. "He's got the size everybody is looking for. " And his mechanics, questioned by some? "He's pretty solid," the scout said.

The regulars at games, Biddle said, are the Phillies, Astros, Angels and Yankees. "I think those teams are the most interested in me," he said.

[astrosfan76]

Jesse Bidwell, 6'5" southpaw from Germantown Friends HS in PA is apparently getting a lot of looks from Astros scouts:  LINK (h/t/ Astros County)

MiLB.com has a scouting report and video on the kid, as well (listed as Jesse Biddle). 

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130

[OregonStrosFan]

MiLB.com has a scouting report and video on the kid, as well (listed as Jesse Biddle). 

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130

Biddle, as in the guys actual last name (as I sheepishly correct my earlier mistake...).

[Jacksonian]

Jesse Biddle, 6'5" southpaw from Germantown Friends HS in PA is apparently getting a lot of looks from Astros scouts:  LINK (h/t/ Astros County)

[And yes, I know that there a lot of players getting a lot of looks from Astros scouts.  Still, it's draft buzz...]

It comes with the territory when you're a 6-foot-5, 235-pound lefthander equipped with a blazing fastball, recently clocked at an eye-popping 94 m.p.h., an effective 12-to-6 curveball, and an improving slider and change-up.  The buzz, if signability is not an issue, is that Biddle could be selected between Rounds No. 2 and No. 4 of the first-year player draft a month from now.  "He's a 6-5 lefthander," said one scout. "He's got the size everybody is looking for. " And his mechanics, questioned by some? "He's pretty solid," the scout said.

The regulars at games, Biddle said, are the Phillies, Astros, Angels and Yankees. "I think those teams are the most interested in me," he said.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Astros were scouting so hard to satisfy some doubts.  Unlikely they're spending resources on players they are sure of.

[astrosfan76]

Perfect Game Crosschecker has a couple of mock drafts up (well, one is from the mlbbonusbaby guy).  The one that is unique to their site has us selecting Cox (again) at #8 and Bryce Brentz at #19.  I'm a little disappointed, as their reasoning for the picks have us selecting college hitters so they'll have hitting prospects on the fast track to the big leagues.  I'd expect better reasoning from them.  The Cox pick I don't mind, and if they really liked Brentz, I wouldn't be surprised if they picked him.  But, I don't see them following PG's logic. 

http://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=4742

[Hornstros]

yeah, it's tough to take their predictions with any kind of value after reading this:

After years of painfully conservative drafts and equally pained signabilities, the Astros have almost overreacted the past few years, going almost exclusively to high-school talent.

Overreacted?  Hasn't the front office been calling that 'taking best available'?   I hope the organization overreacts in the 2010 draft again

[moriartp]

From BA's first mock:

8. ASTROS: After using first-rounders the last two years on up-the-middle talents Jason Castro and Jiovanni Mier, Houston can address its shortage of power pitching. Ohio prep righthander Stetson Allie has been pitching in the upper 90s with his fastball and the high 80s with his slider, and that kind of arm won't last too long in the draft. If the Astros want to go with a power bat, Washington high school outfielder Josh Sale could be enticing.

PROJECTED PICK: Stetson Allie.

19. ASTROS: Houston places as much emphasis on predraft workouts as any club, and few players can show as much in that setting as Eibner, who could be a first-round choice as either a righthanded pitcher or an outfielder. Landing Eibner would atone for failing to sign him as a fourth-rounder out of high school. Georgia prep outfielder Delino DeShields Jr., a top of the scale runner with big league bloodlines, is the type of athlete who could wind up with the Astros after dazzling in a workout.

PROJECTED PICK: Brett Eibner.

[OregonStrosFan]

Would the Astros really consider going with Eibner?

[Noe]

Would the Astros really consider going with Eibner?

Same agent?  If so, then I say probably not.

[Jacksonian]

Would the Astros really consider going with Eibner?

Considering the Astros have a different GM and publicly professing a new attitude with regard to the farm system, I'd say yes.  And, addressing a past "mistake" or "making up for lost time" is the kind of marketing deal Pam could sell.

[moriartp]

I don't think they'll hesitate to take him if they still like him. He'll likely be going in the top forty picks, which means he'll get a sizable bonus no matter what (and he's never likely to be a top-of-the-draft talent, so this is about as good as it'll get for him). As a college junior he also doesn't have the leverage to say "screw it, I'll just go develop for three more years and hope to get drafted higher"--holding out another year won't make him any more attractive to teams next time around.

[OregonStrosFan]

Less than 3 weeks before day 1 of the draft begins!

[OregonStrosFan]

Perfect Game's 1st mock: LINK

8. HOUSTON ASTROS
Zach Cox, 3b, University of Arkansas
After years of painfully conservative drafts and equally pained signabilities, the Astros have almost overreacted the past few years, going almost exclusively to high-school talent. Of course, the team’s lone high college pick, catcher Jason Castro (1st round, 2008) almost made the team this spring. The Astros desperately need an immediate influx of offensive talent and Cox’s path to being a successful big-league hitter should be a short one.

19. HOUSTON ASTROS (from Detroit for Jose Valverde)
Bryce Brentz, of, Middle Tennessee State University
It’s not often that advocating drafting for team needs is a prudent idea in the baseball draft, but the Astros need hitting. But if the Astros draft Zach Cox with their first pick (No. 8) and come back and get the power-hitting Brentz with this pick, they will look back at the end of the day and feel pretty darned good, I would expect. At least, the Astros and their fan base will know there are hitting prospects on the fast track to the big leagues.

[juliogotay]

Perfect Game's 1st mock: LINK

8. HOUSTON ASTROS
Zach Cox, 3b, University of Arkansas
After years of painfully conservative drafts and equally pained signabilities, the Astros have almost overreacted the past few years, going almost exclusively to high-school talent. Of course, the team’s lone high college pick, catcher Jason Castro (1st round, 2008) almost made the team this spring. The Astros desperately need an immediate influx of offensive talent and Cox’s path to being a successful big-league hitter should be a short one.

19. HOUSTON ASTROS (from Detroit for Jose Valverde)
Bryce Brentz, of, Middle Tennessee State University
It’s not often that advocating drafting for team needs is a prudent idea in the baseball draft, but the Astros need hitting. But if the Astros draft Zach Cox with their first pick (No. and come back and get the power-hitting Brentz with this pick, they will look back at the end of the day and feel pretty darned good, I would expect. At least, the Astros and their fan base will know there are hitting prospects on the fast track to the big leagues.

Cox would be an interesting pick. Some think he will end up at 2B. Not speedy but a good LH bat.

[Jacksonian]

I think Cox is wrong.  Wade has professed a desire for speedy middle infielders.  IIRC, that one reason he went after Matsui.  If they project Cox as a 3b, then maybe.  Though I still think they're hoping for a college arm.

[OregonStrosFan]

I think Cox is wrong.  Wade has professed a desire for speedy middle infielders.  IIRC, that one reason he went after Matsui.  If they project Cox as a 3b, then maybe.  Though I still think they're hoping for a college arm.

Which college arm do you think they are hoping for with #8?  Pomeranz? Can't think it'd be Renaudo given the injury and performance after (but the biggie being a BorAss client). 

[moriartp]

Chris Sale, Deck McGuire, Brandon Workman, and Brett Eibner are among the other top college guys. Some of them aren't rated in the top ten range by many of the publications, but we know Heck's draft board usually looks quite different from theirs.

[Andyzipp]

Wade has professed a desire for speedy middle infielders.  IIRC, that one reason he went after Matsui.

Anything that was said after the Matsui signing was PR.  Matsui was the Astros' (and Wade's) third choice of FA secondbaggers.

[Navin R Johnson]

Cox is injured again.  He had back problems his freshman year and is now has back problem that will keep him out of the lineup tonight.   Will be interesting to see how long he is out.

http://www.helena-arkansas.com/sports/x2084250118/Cox-likely-to-ride-the-bench-against-Oklahoma-Tuesday

[accougars]

I think Cox is wrong.  Wade has professed a desire for speedy middle infielders.  IIRC, that one reason he went after Matsui.  If they project Cox as a 3b, then maybe.  Though I still think they're hoping for a college arm.

I completely agree, unless a big right-hander from just up I45 is available. I think you have to pull the trigger and make a splash.

[juliogotay]

What are you talking about "make a splash"?

[moriartp]

Presumably shelling out the 5mm+ it'd take to sign Taillon if he fell to Houston at 8.

Speaking of speedy middle infielders, Keith Law has apparently been saying for a while that the Astros are high on 2B/CF Delino DeShields Jr.

[juliogotay]

Presumably shelling out the 5mm+ it'd take to sign Taillon if he fell to Houston at 8.

Speaking of speedy middle infielders, Keith Law has apparently been saying for a while that the Astros are high on 2B/CF Delino DeShields Jr.

The thinking being that Taillon would fall to #8 because of signability?

[OregonStrosFan]

Franklin Piliere at MLB Fanhouse has posted his Mock Draft 1.0 (top 10). LINK

8. Astros | Michael Choice (OF) | Texas-Arlington
No team in the top 10 has been as tight-lipped about its intentions as the Houston Astros. A college bat seems logical here; I don't see them grabbing a high school arm. If Cox is available I can see them going there. It's hard to see Choice sliding any further than this spot.

[OregonStrosFan]

Franklin Piliere at MLB Fanhouse has posted his Mock Draft 1.0 (top 10). LINK

8. Astros | Michael Choice (OF) | Texas-Arlington
No team in the top 10 has been as tight-lipped about its intentions as the Houston Astros. A college bat seems logical here; I don't see them grabbing a high school arm. If Cox is available I can see them going there. It's hard to see Choice sliding any further than this spot.

Piliere responds to some negative criticism of his mock at Astros County.  LINK

Comment:

OremLK said... This mock draft is pretty bad. I don't think the Astros take Choice or Cox at 8. Neither guy fits the MO and frankly I'm not that high on either of them.

    The Astros don't like high floor low ceiling guys under Heck unless they are fantastic defenders, which Cox and Choice are not. Heck's department prefers to focus on upside when it comes to offense and pitching.

    Karsten Whitson is a great fit, if he's available. Josh Sale. Austin Wilson. Kaleb Cowart. Nick Castellanos. A.J. Cole. Manny Machado. Stetson Allie. Dylan Covey. These are names I would be focusing on at number 8. The Astros tend to surprise people, so I could be wrong, but right now I'm expecting one of those guys to be the pick.

Response:

Frankie said... You may not like it but they are on Michael Choice. Doesn't make the mock bad. And like I said, the Astros have been the most mysterious team in the top 10. I almost had Zack Cox at 8 but I was talked off of by a couple crosscheckers.

And, yes I am randomly defending my mock draft in the middle of the web. What can I say, I worked hard on it, gotta defend it and it didn't come from nowhere. All we can do is use our sources right now and hope for the best. The clubs haven't settled on guys yet so there's no way to be "right."

All good names you mentioned but no one in the industry seem to think it so I can't just put something that comes from nowhere.

Anyway, thanks for reading

Frankie Piliere

[OregonStrosFan]

Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com with "an early look at what the top 10 might look like on June 7."  LINK

8. Houston Astros: Deck McGuire, RHP, Georgia Tech
Last year's first-round pick was a high schooler, in Jiovanni Mier. Will they go that route again? There doesn't appear to be a bat from the prep ranks that fits here, unless they want to reach a bit for a Josh Sale or Delino DeShields Jr. If it's a high school arm they want, Ohio-area product Stetson Allie is generating some buzz, along with guys like Dylan Covey and Karsten Whitson. In the end, though, the consistent Friday starter from Tech might be what they need: a guy who can help out quickly.

[Leeaire]

Piliere responds to some negative criticism of his mock at Astros County.  LINK

Comment:

OremLK said... This mock draft is pretty bad. I don't think the Astros take Choice or Cox at 8. Neither guy fits the MO and frankly I'm not that high on either of them.

    The Astros don't like high floor low ceiling guys under Heck unless they are fantastic defenders, which Cox and Choice are not. Heck's department prefers to focus on upside when it comes to offense and pitching.

    Karsten Whitson is a great fit, if he's available. Josh Sale. Austin Wilson. Kaleb Cowart. Nick Castellanos. A.J. Cole. Manny Machado. Stetson Allie. Dylan Covey. These are names I would be focusing on at number 8. The Astros tend to surprise people, so I could be wrong, but right now I'm expecting one of those guys to be the pick.

Response:

Frankie said... You may not like it but they are on Michael Choice. Doesn't make the mock bad. And like I said, the Astros have been the most mysterious team in the top 10. I almost had Zack Cox at 8 but I was talked off of by a couple crosscheckers.

And, yes I am randomly defending my mock draft in the middle of the web. What can I say, I worked hard on it, gotta defend it and it didn't come from nowhere. All we can do is use our sources right now and hope for the best. The clubs haven't settled on guys yet so there's no way to be "right."

All good names you mentioned but no one in the industry seem to think it so I can't just put something that comes from nowhere.

Anyway, thanks for reading

Frankie Piliere

OremLK writes for the Crawfish boxes about the minors.............*sigh* Hes actually a part of their writing team and thanks to SnS I know what good observations about the minors are.

[Jacksonian]

Heck and Wade scout hard on a guy they have questions about.  They quietly keep an eye on guys they like and are sure of regarding where they slot them on the draft board.  If they're watching hard on Choice then he's not likely to be the guy at 8, maybe 19.  They did that with Castro.  They weren't out on him in full force in the weeks leading up to the draft.  No one had a clue they had Castro that high.

If the first 7 on Mayo's mock is right, regardless of the actual order of selection, then I agree that McGuire is the guy.

[Noe]

I have not heard anything, but the McGuire pick has some solid foundation to it.  I too think Mayo may be on to something.

[Froback]

I have not heard anything, but the McGuire pick has some solid foundation to it.  I too think Mayo may be on to something.

Mayo isn't always right, but he does have good connections and isn't just a parrot of them.  He tends to be one of the better quality guys out there to listen to, even though all of them are guessing alot at this point.

[Jacksonian]

I have not heard anything, but the McGuire pick has some solid foundation to it.  I too think Mayo may be on to something.

If he falls that far.

[Jacksonian]

Heck and Wade scout hard on a guy they have questions about.  They quietly keep an eye on guys they like and are sure of regarding where they slot them on the draft board.  If they're watching hard on Choice then he's not likely to be the guy at 8, maybe 19.  They did that with Castro.  They weren't out on him in full force in the weeks leading up to the draft.  No one had a clue they had Castro that high.

If the first 7 on Mayo's mock is right, regardless of the actual order of selection, then I agree that McGuire is the guy.

The Astros hide their intentions so well that Mayo had no idea what they were going to do in the first round last year just a week prior to the draft.

[Duman]

They also start bring kids into Houston for workouts soon.  Wonder if any names will leak out?

[Reuben]

Heck and Wade scout hard on a guy they have questions about.  They quietly keep an eye on guys they like and are sure of regarding where they slot them on the draft board.  If they're watching hard on Choice then he's not likely to be the guy at 8, maybe 19.  They did that with Castro.  They weren't out on him in full force in the weeks leading up to the draft.  No one had a clue they had Castro that high.

If the first 7 on Mayo's mock is right, regardless of the actual order of selection, then I agree that McGuire is the guy.

mlb.com scouting report says polished guy with good control, probably not an ace but very good chance to be a solid #3... isn't that what they were saying about Mike Leake last year?

[moriartp]

mlb.com scouting report says polished guy with good control, probably not an ace but very good chance to be a solid #3... isn't that what they were saying about Mike Leake last year?

Similar reports on their upside and ability to move through the system, but they're pretty different pitchers. Leake's five inches shorter than McGuire and doesn't throw as hard, but he gets good movement on his fastball. A relative lack of movement is the biggest knock I've seen on McGuire so far (but probably isn't a great concern given that he's assumed to be a top ten pick).

[astrosfan76]

Another mock draft up from mlbbonusbaby.  This week, we get Cox at #8 and Karsten Whitson at #19. 

8. Houston Astros - Zack Cox, 3B, Arkansas - This represents three in a row for me linking Cox to the Astros. It just makes sense. However, there are indications that the Astros will prefer a more athletic bat or even a pitcher in this slot, though I see them going after another bat to complement the cornerstones of Jason Castro and Jiovanni Mier, picked under the first two years of the new regime.

19. Houston Astros - Karsten Whitson, RHP, Chipley HS (FL) - Though I personally think that Whitson is still the best of the prep pitching bunch behind Taillon, that's by no means a reflection of the consensus in the scouting community. A late-season fade has worried a few teams, and that's all it takes for teams to pass over expensive prep arms for more affordable arms early. The Astros have to ask themselves if they're ready to spend some money in this draft.

Whitson would be a nice pickup at #19 and seems to fit the mold of hard-throwing, projectable RHP.  I didn't find anything on his bonus demands with a quick google search, but if he's looking for close to slot, he could be a realistic pick.

http://www.mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/5/24/1484908/mock-draft-7-first-round#storyjump

[Jacksonian]

Drayton's apparent change of direction changes my view of the draft.  I was thinking fastest rising college player at #8 to as quickly as possible try to continue winning at the major league level with a nod toward marketing.  All that at the expense of taking the best available player.

Now I'm looking for Houston to take the #8 or better player on their board, regardless.  The same for #19 and on in at least the first 5 rounds.  I would be surprised if Cox is in their top 8 unless they really think he can be a high quality 2b.  IMO, Colon is a better choice if that's the thinking.  Right now though I completely expect the Astros to do this year what they did in 08; have their board look differently than the pudnits expect and go with it.  Which means I don't think anyone, including me, will be right on their guesses.

[Jacksonian]

FYI, next Monday, 31st, I am going to open the Draft thread.  I intend to merge this thread with that to reduce confusion regarding where to post draft info.  That is all, for now.

[OregonStrosFan]

Drayton's apparent change of direction changes my view of the draft.

When it comes down to it, I just don't trust Pinwheel to give me an accurate account of the conversation between he and McLane.  Do I think he made up quotes? No.  Would I put it past him to have taken out-of-context quotes from a lengthy conversation and jumbled them together in such a way as to churn the waters in a way he wanted them churned? Not in the least.  Pinwheel''s primary goals as a writer appear to be stirring the pot and getting face time on ESPN.  The Oswalt story and it's progeny, and Pinwheel's responses to those, have accomplished both.

His blog today seems to be saying he may be doubting McLane's sincerity on the comments made in the above-linked article.  LINK So, do I think that McLane is ready to blow the whole thing up and start again?  I'm not sure, but I am certainly not ready to start divining the Astros plans from a quote in a Pinwheel blog/article (and in fairness to Pinwheel the comments to him the other day could easily have been a salesman telling Justice a story that he wanted to hear). 

[/Pinwheelrant]

[moriartp]

Keith Law has put up a mock draft (behind the pay wall).

#8: Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchet High School (Wash.)
The Astros have been all over Sale this spring, and they have nothing like him in their system. They also like Cox, but I don't see Sale going ahead of No. 8.

#19: Delino DeShields Jr., 2B, Woodward Park Academy (Ga.)
The DeShields/Astros connection has been running rampant for a month, and it's not out of the question that they might take him at No. 8 if Josh Sale is gone. I've also heard that the Astros could take Alabama outfielder Reggie Golden either here or with their first sandwich pick.

Law seems to put a lot of stock in a heavy scouting presence on a player, but as as been stated here, that may not exactly indicate that they're going to take him.

[Jacksonian]

Keith Law has put up a mock draft (behind the pay wall).

#8: Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchet High School (Wash.)
The Astros have been all over Sale this spring, and they have nothing like him in their system. They also like Cox, but I don't see Sale going ahead of No. 8.

#19: Delino DeShields Jr., 2B, Woodward Park Academy (Ga.)
The DeShields/Astros connection has been running rampant for a month, and it's not out of the question that they might take him at No. 8 if Josh Sale is gone. I've also heard that the Astros could take Alabama outfielder Reggie Golden either here or with their first sandwich pick.

Law seems to put a lot of stock in a heavy scouting presence on a player, but as as been stated here, that may not exactly indicate that they're going to take him.

Exactly.  No one had them on Castro, Mier, and Lyles.  On the otherhand, being all over Sale could have to do with deciding between 8 and 19.

[MusicMan]

I would rather have a braying donkey's opinion than Law's.

[astrosfan76]

I would rather have a braying donkey's opinion than Law's.

What's the difference?

[moriartp]

What's the difference?

The donkey is less of an ass.

[OregonStrosFan]

Levine sets out some of the preparation by Heck & Co leading up to the draft: LINK

[VirtualBob]

Levine sets out some of the preparation by Heck & Co leading up to the draft: LINK

I'm actually getting to like Levine's approach.  Not that I will actually frequent a chron-blog, mind you, but still ...

[OregonStrosFan]

Mayo with his 2nd mock draft, going through the top 20 picks this time: LINK  Thoughts on DeShields?

8. Houston Astros: Zack Cox, 3B, Arkansas
A rib-cage injury has kept Cox largely out of action the past several games, but that shouldn't hurt his Draft stock, with many believing he's the best advanced bat in the country. A guy who can get to the bigs quickly and contribute might be just what the Astros are looking for. Last week: McGuire

19. Houston Astros: Delino DeShields Jr., OF, Woodward Park Academy (Ga.)
The buzz about Houston liking DeShields has been loud, to the point where some think the Astros would take him with their first pick to make sure they got him. In this scenario, they get the safe college guy up top and the high school toolsy guy here.

[OregonStrosFan]

And Frankie Piliere with his Mock Draft 2.0.  LINK

8. Astros | Zack Cox (3B) | Arkansas
Not only is this a fit because Houston has been on Cox heavily all spring, but it's also a match because the Astros are a team that has been quiet and Cox is a player on which there seems to be no consensus. Some scouts have described Cox's defense as borderline "comical" and others believe in his bat enough to overcome that. Houston may be one of those teams. They are in on several guys for this spot, including Choice, Brandon Workman, and Josh Sale. They'd prefer a college arm but the ideal guy may not be there.

19. Astros | Josh Sale (OF) | Bishop Blanchet H.S. (Seattle, Wash.)
Houston has shown heavy interest in Sale, but it seems to be leaning toward a safer, college pick at eighth overall. If Sale is still around this late, I expect the Astros to jump on him.

[jbm]

A bat can be good enough to overcome "borderline comical" defense? I can't imagine the Astros taking him with the eight pick if his defense sucks. 

[OregonStrosFan]

BA's prospect chat also links the Astros to Chad Lewis.  LINK

Q: Any ideas as to which way Houston is leaning with thier multiple picks?

A (Dave Perkin - BA): I hear they like Chad Lewis a great deal.

BA had Lewis at 115 in their top 200.  LINK

Chad Lewis, 3b, Marina HS, Huntington Beach, Calif.
Prototype third baseman who just needs to make some refinements at the plate.

[Jacksonian]

All in all right now, no one has a clue who the Astros are going to pick.  The Astros like it that way.

[OregonStrosFan]

All in all right now, no one has a clue who the Astros are going to pick.  The Astros like it that way.

IIRC, the Astros were not particularly linked to Castro in '08 until the actually picked him, and it wasn't until midday day of the 2009 draft until folks started saying they were going to take Jio.  I'd agree that we really won't have a clue until Bagwell opines on the subject.

[Jacksonian]

IIRC, the Astros were not particularly linked to Castro in '08 until the actually picked him, and it wasn't until midday day of the 2009 draft until folks started saying they were going to take Jio.  I'd agree that we really won't have a clue until Bagwell opines on the subject.

Castro, Mier, and 1S Lyles: no one had a clue a week prior to the draft.

[Hornstros]

I would rather have a braying donkey's opinion than Law's.

Not that i'm advocating Law is unbelievably credible in his predictions/opinions, but he had us taking Mier last year prior to the draft.  Don't think any other writer guessed it right

[Noe]

Jim Bowden has the Astros taking Zach Cox too.  He has Deck McGuire going six to the Diamondbacks.  And then he has the Astros taking Anthony Ranuado from LSU (the next Joba Chamberlain?) at number 19, although he does qualify that pick with the fact that Ranuado is a suspect with his velocity decreasing ("some scouts think he's hurt").

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=2b4c8ce1-930d-44f0-9c6a-40f3e3d9eb43&from=foxsports_en-us_videocentral

[OregonStrosFan]

Not that i'm advocating Law is unbelievably credible in his predictions/opinions, but he had us taking Mier last year prior to the draft.  Don't think any other writer guessed it right

IIRC it was Law, the day of the draft.  Prior to that, no one seemed to have a clue. 

[moriartp]

IIRC it was Law, the day of the draft.  Prior to that, no one seemed to have a clue. 

BA's draft day mock also got it right. Don't know which one published first.

Jim Bowden has the Astros taking Zach Cox too.

Bowden's draft sounds largely built around team needs. Not saying it won't happen, but that's where it seems most of the Cox-Astros connection rumors have come from. I think Piliere is the only one who's written anything about the Astros actually liking him (and there's been at least one rumor to the contrary, so who the hell knows at this point?).

This is getting frustrating to think about. I'm considering going into an induced coma and being woken up on 6/7.

[astrosfan76]

Jim Bowden has the Astros taking Zach Cox too.  He has Deck McGuire going six to the Diamondbacks.  And then he has the Astros taking Anthony Ranuado from LSU (the next Joba Chamberlain?) at number 19, although he does qualify that pick with the fact that Ranuado is a suspect with his velocity decreasing ("some scouts think he's hurt").

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=2b4c8ce1-930d-44f0-9c6a-40f3e3d9eb43&from=foxsports_en-us_videocentral

Ranaudo was touching 95 in his first 2 innings last night, though he finished at 91-92 with no life.  I'm not going to rule out a player, but if there are long-term concerns, coupled with having Boras as an agent, I don't know that he's a good fit. 

[Navin R Johnson]

Cox, while having a fabulous batting average isn't hitting for much power, combine that with his reportedly bad defense, doesn't seem to make him a #8 overall pick.

He did hit for power as a freshman, but he only batted .266

[Jacksonian]

Ranaudo was touching 95 in his first 2 innings last night, though he finished at 91-92 with no life.  I'm not going to rule out a player, but if there are long-term concerns, coupled with having Boras as an agent, I don't know that he's a good fit. 

IMO Ranaudo was looking at end of round 1/supp 1 before last night.  He's clearly recovering and last night's performance moved him up to 19 consideration.  I don't know how many more starts he'll get before the draft, but if they're this good he could go before 19.

[accougars]

IMO Ranaudo was looking at end of round 1/supp 1 before last night.  He's clearly recovering and last night's performance moved him up to 19 consideration.  I don't know how many more starts he'll get before the draft, but if they're this good he could go before 19.

I am asking this because I have no idea.

How much information does the organization obtain in terms of medical records on the players. Is it like the NFL where the team docs examine darn near every player's records before the draft. This would seem to be quite a painstaking/costly process for something the size of the baseball draft. Does the organization simply rely on the statements of the player, his parents, handler/agent, and coach?

Also, the Astros take in the game and speak to one Robby Rowland, a 6'6 prep pitcher from Cali with a low 90's fastball. He also had a successfull basketball career. That would certainly fit the club's MO!

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100526/SPORTS/100529552/1010/sports?Title=Disappointing-end-to-phenomenal-prep-career&tc=ar

[accougars]

BA's prospect chat also links the Astros to Chad Lewis.  LINK

Q: Any ideas as to which way Houston is leaning with thier multiple picks?

A (Dave Perkin - BA): I hear they like Chad Lewis a great deal.

BA had Lewis at 115 in their top 200.  LINK

Chad Lewis, 3b, Marina HS, Huntington Beach, Calif.
Prototype third baseman who just needs to make some refinements at the plate.

It will be interesting to see if where they take a young man like this. He doesn't fit the clubs up the middle MO of the early early rounds, but rounds 4-5 could be interesting!

[Jacksonian]

It will be interesting to see if where they take a young man like this. He doesn't fit the clubs up the middle MO of the early early rounds, but rounds 4-5 could be interesting!

The took a corner position player in the 3rd round in 2008.

[moriartp]

The took a corner position player in the 3rd round in 2008.

And twice in '09. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see it happen again.

[Jacksonian]

I am asking this because I have no idea.

How much information does the organization obtain in terms of medical records on the players. Is it like the NFL where the team docs examine darn near every player's records before the draft. This would seem to be quite a painstaking/costly process for something the size of the baseball draft. Does the organization simply rely on the statements of the player, his parents, handler/agent, and coach?

Also, the Astros take in the game and speak to one Robby Rowland, a 6'6 prep pitcher from Cali with a low 90's fastball. He also had a successfull basketball career. That would certainly fit the club's MO!

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100526/SPORTS/100529552/1010/sports?Title=Disappointing-end-to-phenomenal-prep-career&tc=ar

They'll collect as much medical information as they can from as many places as they can.

[Noe]

Bud Selig has a favorite motto when it come to damaged goods in both the FA market, trades and in drafts: "Buyer Beware".  Teams who do not do their due diligence in terms of health of the player are on their own when it comes to wanting the MLB office to cut them some slack somehow for getting damaged goods.  It won't happen.

[domedogs]

Personally, I believe the Astros may be "leaking" interest in Cox to keep people off of the guy they are targeting.  They may be planting a scout at his games to lead others to believe they have substantial interest.  I do see the Delino DeShields talk as a match.  Maybe at 19 unless a prep pitcher falls to them.

I could see Lewis as the 1S/1 pick.  Even though he is a 3B, he is described as a plus defender with possible plus power.  He has some holes, but that's what the minor leagues are for: find those and work on them.

I don't know why I am trying to figure this out.  Heck is the baseball draft philosophical equivalent to Immanuel Kant (trying to give teams preconceived notions so that they can only think within the restraints of those notions).

[OregonStrosFan]

BA 5/28 mock (Callis): LINK

8. ASTROS. Houston is pursuing several of the draft's top athletes, and may have to take high school outfielder Austin Wilson or Delino DeShields if it's dead-set on getting them. The Astros also don't have any power bats in their system, which makes Washington high school outfielder Josh Sale very enticing.

PROJECTED PICK: JOSH SALE.

19. ASTROS. The dream scenario for Houston is to have Wilson or DeShields waiting for them at No. 19. If that doesn't come to pass, they could take another athlete, such as Alabama prep outfielder Reggie Golden or two-way star Eibner, whom they failed to sign as a fourth-rounder in 2007. Vitek is another possibility.

PROJECTED PICK: DELINO DeSHIELDS JR.

[Jacksonian]

BA 5/28 mock (Callis): LINK

8. ASTROS. The Astros also don't have any power bats in their system, which makes Washington high school outfielder Josh Sale very enticing.

PROJECTED PICK: JOSH SALE.

This isn't true.  They drafted a prep one last year in Telvin Nash.  He didn't hit well but has big power.  Additionally, Gaston, Martinez, and Hinze have power much less several other hitters.

[pots]

This isn't true.  They drafted a prep one last year in Telvin Nash.  He didn't hit well but has big power.  Additionally, Gaston, Martinez, and Hinze have power much less several other hitters.

I'd put Clemens on the power list at this point.  Proving this year Lancaster wasn't a fluke.  Not to mention the 15 he hit in 2007 in Lexington.

[Jacksonian]

BA 5/28 mock (Callis): LINK

8. ASTROS. Houston is pursuing several of the draft's top athletes, and may have to take high school outfielder Austin Wilson or Delino DeShields if it's dead-set on getting them. The Astros also don't have any power bats in their system, which makes Washington high school outfielder Josh Sale very enticing.

PROJECTED PICK: JOSH SALE.

19. ASTROS. The dream scenario for Houston is to have Wilson or DeShields waiting for them at No. 19. If that doesn't come to pass, they could take another athlete, such as Alabama prep outfielder Reggie Golden or two-way star Eibner, whom they failed to sign as a fourth-rounder in 2007. Vitek is another possibility.

PROJECTED PICK: DELINO DeSHIELDS JR.

I'm beginning to wonder now if Brentz isn't the man at 8.

[astrosfan76]

BA 5/28 mock (Callis): LINK

8. ASTROS. Houston is pursuing several of the draft's top athletes, and may have to take high school outfielder Austin Wilson or Delino DeShields if it's dead-set on getting them. The Astros also don't have any power bats in their system, which makes Washington high school outfielder Josh Sale very enticing.

PROJECTED PICK: JOSH SALE.

19. ASTROS. The dream scenario for Houston is to have Wilson or DeShields waiting for them at No. 19. If that doesn't come to pass, they could take another athlete, such as Alabama prep outfielder Reggie Golden or two-way star Eibner, whom they failed to sign as a fourth-rounder in 2007. Vitek is another possibility.

PROJECTED PICK: DELINO DeSHIELDS JR.

I'm surprised to see Wilson's name like this.  He definitely is athletic enough for them, but Callis is talking like they would draft him, if given the chance.  I haven't heard numbers, but he's supposed to be a really tough sign and would require going way above slot.  Signing him would show a new level of commitment to the draft.  Yes, they've signed guys like Seaton for several hundred-thousand above slot, but they've never gone $2M above for one player. 

[Navin R Johnson]

Interview with Austin Wilson

http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/03/29/austin-wilson-qa/#more-4925

Wow, I'd say this kid comes from some pretty good stock.

Wilson: My Mom went to Stanford and my Dad went to MIT. They met at Harvard Business school.

[Jacksonian]

This is the thread to post your draft related topics.  Merged with the Early Draft Buzz thread.

[moriartp]

A couple of new mock drafts:

Frankie Piliere

8. Astros - Michael Choice (OF) | Texas-Arlington

Despite rumors of Houston being in on prep players like Stetson Allie and Josh Sale at this spot, what I have heard is that Houston is looking for very signable guys and will look for a college bat in this spot. They'd like a chance at Josh Sale, but it seems like they'd rather have him at their second first-round pick. It's possible he could go here, but a college bat like Choice makes more sense, and they have scouted him heavily all spring. Brandon Workman has been mentioned here as well, if they do decide to go the pitching route. Aside from the Mets, they are the highest-picking team to show heavy interest in Kvasnicka, but word is they'd also prefer him at 19 rather than eight.

19. Astros - Michael Kvasnicka (C/OF) | Minnesota

Houston is very high on Kvasnicka and may even take him at No. 8, but that still appears unlikely. There's a lot out there about them looking into prep talents, but other clubs seem to think Houston is looking for easy-sign type players and college bats. They still could go with a prep bat here if the right guy is available or if Kvasnicka is gone. And, the reality is Kvasnicka has a very good chance to be gone.

Keith Law (subscription required)

8. Houston Astros
Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchet High School (Wash.)
The fact that no one has a strong idea of what the Astros want to do is fueling a lot of rumors that didn't check out when I looked into them. One thing I did learn is that they can go over slot on the right player.

19. Houston Astros (from Detroit)
Delino DeShields Jr., 2B, Woodward Park Academy (Ga.)
They're also reportedly on Texas A&M righty Barrett Loux if DeShields doesn't get here.


That's Callis and Law both suggesting the Astros might get in on a high-bonus player. Wilson certainly does sound enticing.

[OregonStrosFan]

Keith Law (subscription required)

The fact that no one has a strong idea of what the Astros want to do is fueling a lot of rumors that didn't check out when I looked into them. One thing I did learn is that they can go over slot on the right player.

That's Callis and Law both suggesting the Astros might get in on a high-bonus player. Wilson certainly does sound enticing.

IMO, what happens between 6/7 and the end of July (7/2 int'l prospect signing) is going to tell us a lot about the health of the organization going forward.  I don't know if they will continue to sign some of the 'bigger name' int'l free agents this year, but the ones they've signed in the past months provide some optimism.  And while I won't 'be down on' the Astros for not taking a flier on some 'sign-ability issue' guys and then not signing them, I would certainly be pleased to see some well over slot players taken and signed after the first 5 rounds. 

[OregonStrosFan]

Had never heard about Kvasbicka.  Part of BA's scouting report on him: LINK

Kvasnicka has seen semi-regular action behind the plate this spring while senior Kyle Knudson has recovered from offseason [surgery]. Kvasnicka already was an attractive draft prospect as a 6-foot-2, 210-pound switch-hitter with a balanced stroke, good power potential and strike-zone discipline. Now his stock has jumped with the possibility that he could be a catcher rather than a right fielder.

[accougars]

Here is the preview for the stated of Texas from BA:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610093.html

It origionally asked me for a membership (which I don't have), but I just clicked ok and it let me view it. Good luck while it lasts.

[Leeaire]

Here is the preview for the stated of Texas from BA:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610093.html

It origionally asked me for a membership (which I don't have), but I just clicked ok and it let me view it. Good luck while it lasts.

lol, im reading it now. thats quite the find

[OregonStrosFan]

Jim Callis will be on ESPN790 AM with Pallilo in Houston at 4:15 p.m. CT (about 15 minutes from now) to discuss Astros draft misc. 

[Noe]

Callis sounds like he's going with Josh Sale (Sah-ley) and saying that it would not be wise to go with DeLino Deshields that early in the draft (*figures he'll be around for a later pick).  He'd rather they go with a pitcher.

[astrosfan76]

Here is the preview for the stated of Texas from BA:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610093.html

It origionally asked me for a membership (which I don't have), but I just clicked ok and it let me view it. Good luck while it lasts.

It's not just that article that you can read.  I've been 5 for 5 trying that trick with random articles.

[Jacksonian]

Callis sounds like he's going with Josh Sale (Sah-ley) and saying that it would not be wise to go with DeLino Deshields that early in the draft (*figures he'll be around for a later pick).  He'd rather they go with a pitcher.

It would be counter to everything the Astros have done under Wade/Heck to go with Sale at 8.  He's not an overly athletic high schooler like Mier, Austin or Lyles.  He doesn't play a premium defensive position, and his offensive game rests on one trick, power.  I would expect the Astros to go with Choice over Sale.

[OregonStrosFan]

I would expect the Astros to go with Choice over Sale.

Of course they would, Pam would insist...

I've seen him compared to Spaz more than once which was enough for me to considering praying to Jobu that he was not still around when the Astros were picking.  (And yes I am aware that comparisons generally because of the school, and the comment was probably made from some interweb couch-jokey that thought Oswalt for Millege straight up made sense.  Still, once you hear someone the Astros are considering picking is comparable to Spaz doesn't it make your stomach churn just a little bit?  I know, kinda cruel of me to pass it along, but I'm kinda just spiteful that way...).

[MusicMan]

Of course they would, Pam would insist...

I've seen him compared to Spaz more than once which was enough for me to considering praying to Jobu that he was not still around when the Astros were picking.  (And yes I am aware that comparisons generally because of the school, and the comment was probably made from some interweb couch-jokey that thought Oswalt for Millege straight up made sense.  Still, once you hear someone the Astros are considering picking is comparable to Spaz doesn't it make your stomach churn just a little bit?  I know, kinda cruel of me to pass it along, but I'm kinda just spiteful that way...).

Nah, this isn't Spaz...

He lets balls travel deep before unleashing his lightning bat speed and crushing them to all fields, though he can get pull-conscious and lengthen his righthanded swing at times. He racks up strikeouts but also draws walks

On the other hand...

some scouts believe he may be able to stay in center field. Others think he lacks the jumps and instincts for center and fits better on a corner. He may have enough arm strength for right field, and he definitely has the power profile to fit in left.

(shudder)

[OregonStrosFan]

Nah, this isn't Spaz...
On the other hand...
(shudder)

Nah, I was really just being mean.  The whole misery loves company thing...

[Jacksonian]

Nah, this isn't Spaz...
On the other hand...
(shudder)

I've seen a little bit of him.  He's already better than Spaz in the outfield.  That doesn't mean he's great.  If my reading on all the reports on him is accurate he projects to be a better hitter and fielder than Spaz.

[OregonStrosFan]

It would be counter to everything the Astros have done under Wade/Heck to go with Sale at 8.  He's not an overly athletic high schooler like Mier, Austin or Lyles.  He doesn't play a premium defensive position, and his offensive game rests on one trick, power.  I would expect the Astros to go with Choice over Sale.

Aren't there just so many above average speed and glove SS/CF types with pop but not a huge power upside you go after before you need to start considering taking the slow fat kid that looks like he'll hit 25-40 HRs a year?

[And before I get massacred for the question, a couple of things: I'm not calling Mier, Austin or Castro all glove type players; I understand the draw in projectable athletic pitchers like Lyles and Bushue; I remember the Astros signed Telvin Nash; and no I do not think I am, nor mean to act like I am, some kind of draft or prospect expert.  I'm not, not even close, just informed enough to draw some (very probably wrong) conclusions about what I GUESS may occur... This may be (yet another) stupid question, but it is a serious one...].

[Noe]

One other thing Callis said was that *next year*, the Astros or Royals will be salivating over drafting Anthony Rendon from Rice (next year's number 1 pick in a very deep draft).  He said Rendon projects to be better than Harper this year.  Has better power, will hit for better average, better defense, will remain an infielder, probably third baseman, great upside and almost certainly a fast track to the majors.

Better than Harper?  That's mighty big talk against the hype, as Callis puts Harper as an outfielder eventually and not necessarily a right or center fielder either.  

[Noe]

It would be counter to everything the Astros have done under Wade/Heck to go with Sale at 8.  He's not an overly athletic high schooler like Mier, Austin or Lyles.  He doesn't play a premium defensive position, and his offensive game rests on one trick, power.  I would expect the Astros to go with Choice over Sale.

The fact that the Astros basically ignored Justin Smoak (a one-trick pony DH in the making) and took Jason Castro at number 10 in 2008 is an indication of what you are speaking of.  I saw Smoak play on Sunday night and he made an absolutely horrible play on a routine grounder to his right that turned into a gift rbi single for the Twinkies.  Of course, in the AL you don't really need defense per se, as games usually wind up as 10-9 scores and he who bats last will win.  In this case, I just grinned thinking about all the hoopla about the Astros passing on the DH in the making Smoak by many.

The Astros play in the NL.

[Noe]

Aren't there just so many above average speed and glove SS/CF types with pop but not a huge power upside you go after before you need to start considering taking the slow fat kid that looks like he'll hit 25-40 HRs a year?

[And before I get massacred for the question, a couple of things: I'm not calling Mier, Austin or Castro all glove type players; I understand the draw in projectable athletic pitchers like Lyles and Bushue; I remember the Astros signed Telvin Nash; and no I do not think I am, nor mean to act like I am, some kind of draft or prospect expert.  I'm not, not even close, just informed enough to draw some (very probably wrong) conclusions about what I GUESS may occur... This may be (yet another) stupid question, but it is a serious one...].

They did that one year when they took Max Saap, who at one point looked strikingly just like the Stuff-Puff Marshmellow Man in a Legends uniform.  Saap was never projected to stay at catcher when drafted, possibly a left fielder or first baseman at some point in his career (he started to play first base when he arrived in Lexington).  Saap never lived up to the hype as a power hitter in the making, so there is that.  Not trying to say you don't do that, just that the Astros will do that on occasion.  But by and large, if you're in the NL especially, you think about winning as an organization by being strong up the middle on defense, have solid pitching, anchored by power arms if you can find them and then enough offense (preferably corner players).  You get your offense from first baseman, right fielders, left fielders and third baseman.  Frankly, if the Astros can find a Ryan Braun or Ryan Howard in the draft, that would be great.  The ones that are huge benefits to a team is finding the next Chase Utley's though, as second base for some reason is quickly becoming the new place to look for great hitting and just enough defense.

I'm not sure if a future Chase Utley is available in the draft that early on, but if he is that would be a very good pick to go after.  But if you can find those pitchers (power arms) and up the middle guys who are close to can't miss (Jason Castro for one), then you go there first and find the offense guys later.

[astrosfan76]

It would be counter to everything the Astros have done under Wade/Heck to go with Sale at 8.  He's not an overly athletic high schooler like Mier, Austin or Lyles.  He doesn't play a premium defensive position, and his offensive game rests on one trick, power.  I would expect the Astros to go with Choice over Sale.

Sale's hit tool isn't bad, though and with some tinkering, is projected to be plus.  A few tidbits from BA's scouting report on him:

Sale's father is Samoan and ranks among the best in the nation in drug-free powerlifting...With bat speed better than Travis Snider—one scout even called it the best bat speed he has ever seen from an amateur—Sale has raw power that approaches the top of the scouting scale...He has a high back elbow and sometimes strides too early, but the biggest concern is that he raises up out of his crouched stance, changing his eye level and leaving him susceptible to breaking balls. Most scouts believe the problems are fixable because he's coachable and works hard. He also has a great feel for the strike zone and a patient approach at the plate

A few other thoughts:  While Heck has a preference toward athletic players, he's said that players come in all shapes and forms.  He didn't make the final call, of course, but he was the East Coast Supervisor when the Brewers drafted Braun and Fielder.  So, he does have some track record (at-least) recommending below-average fielders in the 1st round.  Brett Lawrie was high on their board in '08, as well.  I'm not guaranteeing Sale, but I do think it's possible.  

http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610035.html  (See above about circumventing subscriber block)

[OregonStrosFan]

They did that one year when they took Max Saap, who at one point looked strikingly just like the Stuff-Puff Marshmellow Man in a Legends uniform.

Which raises another question.  With Wade the GM, having hired his own draft/prospect guru in Heck, who in turn hired his own crosschecker, while at the same time the organization was shuffling up the scouting department... are there really any tendencies of the Purpura/Hun era drafts that could be imputed to the current Wade/Heck & Co.?   

[astrosfan76]

One other thing Callis said was that *next year*, the Astros or Royals will be salivating over drafting Anthony Rendon from Rice (next year's number 1 pick in a very deep draft).  He said Rendon projects to be better than Harper this year.  Has better power, will hit for better average, better defense, will remain an infielder, probably third baseman, great upside and almost certainly a fast track to the majors.

Better than Harper?  That's mighty big talk against the hype, as Callis puts Harper as an outfielder eventually and not necessarily a right or center fielder either.  

I haven't read Callis projecting Rendon as having better power, though I've read something along the lines of having better in-game power potential, based on his better hitting ability.  On the positioning, Boras would agree with Callis:

Harper is looking at four years of minor league ball if he catches, and perhaps half of that if he plays the outfield. Boras doesn't want him catching. "No baseball person in his right mind will have the guy catch," says Boras, who believes that catching puts a valuable hitter at too great a risk of wear and tear.

Kind of gutsy by Boras, in my opinion.  He'll go to the Nationals, either way.  But, you'd have to figure his bat is worth a lot more on August 15th as a catcher than as an outfielder. 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/06/01/bryce-harper/index.html?eref=writers#ixzz0peCgpsDo

[Noe]

Seems everyone has this kid moving from third base to left field in his career.  Here is a video of his power swing:

http://royalsprospects.com/?p=664

That, my friends, is a very lightning quick bat.  It's ungodly actually.  He looks way too bulked up, sort of a power lifter body and he could use a little less bulk and a lot more toning type of body, but then again, if worked for Baggy.  I'm kind of wondering if this might not be a bad idea after all.

[Noe]

I haven't read Callis projecting Rendon as having better power, though I've read something along the lines of having better in-game power potential, based on his better hitting ability.  On the positioning, Boras would agree with Callis:

Kind of gutsy by Boras, in my opinion.  He'll go to the Nationals, either way.  But, you'd have to figure his bat is worth a lot more on August 15th as a catcher than as an outfielder. 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/06/01/bryce-harper/index.html?eref=writers#ixzz0peCgpsDo

When you move Harper to left field (for instance), he better be the second coming of The Natural, because it's all about offense at that position.  And the average should be just jaw dropping from that side of the field to justify the bonus baby number 1 pick.  I think what really has scouts drooling over Harper is the legit five tools he displays.  A sort of Josh Hamilton in the making.  If that is Harper's ceiling in left, then that's not bad.  But with Rendon, if he is legitimately a third sacker, he'll have a longer career (you can move him later in his career to left or second base) and if he develops a power game, he'll be a much better player.  Will he outdo Harper?  I dunno, nobody does.  But he has better value if he can play defense and not be a left fielder right off the bat (pun intended).

[OregonStrosFan]

Seems everyone has this kid moving from third base to left field in his career.  Here is a video of his power swing:

http://royalsprospects.com/?p=664

That, my friends, is a very lightning quick bat.  It's ungodly actually.  He looks way too bulked up, sort of a power lifter body and he could use a little less bulk and a lot more toning type of body, but then again, if worked for Baggy.  I'm kind of wondering if this might not be a bad idea after all.

You'd have to think that moving to a city where he could play baseball more than the 2-3 weeks a year that it wasn't raining will help his development as well... [/bitchingabouttherainintheNorthwest]

[astrosfan76]

When you move Harper to left field (for instance), he better be the second coming of The Natural, because it's all about offense at that position.  And the average should be just jaw dropping from that side of the field to justify the bonus baby number 1 pick.  I think what really has scouts drooling over Harper is the legit five tools he displays.  A sort of Josh Hamilton in the making.  If that is Harper's ceiling in left, then that's not bad.  But with Rendon, if he is legitimately a third sacker, he'll have a longer career (you can move him later in his career to left or second base) and if he develops a power game, he'll be a much better player.  Will he outdo Harper?  I dunno, nobody does.  But he has better value if he can play defense and not be a left fielder right off the bat (pun intended).

I agree.  I've never been that impressed with Harper, though I'll admit my only sample is from watching his dismal performance in last year's AFLAC game.  Rendon looks to be a much safer bet and, if Harper's moved off catcher, is a premium player at a more premium position who'll reach the majors quicker. 

[astrosfan76]

Callis will be on 790 again tomorrow morning at 7:30, per Twitter.

[Jacksonian]

Which raises another question.  With Wade the GM, having hired his own draft/prospect guru in Heck, who in turn hired his own crosschecker, while at the same time the organization was shuffling up the scouting department... are there really any tendencies of the Purpura/Hun era drafts that could be imputed to the current Wade/Heck & Co.?   

IMO, no.

[Jacksonian]

Sale's hit tool isn't bad, though and with some tinkering, is projected to be plus.  A few tidbits from BA's scouting report on him:

A few other thoughts:  While Heck has a preference toward athletic players, he's said that players come in all shapes and forms.  He didn't make the final call, of course, but he was the East Coast Supervisor when the Brewers drafted Braun and Fielder.  So, he does have some track record (at-least) recommending below-average fielders in the 1st round.  Brett Lawrie was high on their board in '08, as well.  I'm not guaranteeing Sale, but I do think it's possible.  

http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610035.html  (See above about circumventing subscriber block)

Sale projects to be the more powerful, but the reason I say Choice is because is a better overall fielder (more versatile as well) better speed and still projects to have a major league caliber bat that's enough to justify a corner outfield spot.  That and he'll likely move quicker through the org.

[OregonStrosFan]

Footer talks draft prep: LINK

[Navin R Johnson]

I'm not sure if a future Chase Utley is available in the draft that early on, but if he is that would be a very good pick to go after.

Christian Colon?   A few lines from BA's scouting report

Colon shows terrific bat speed as his barrel connects with the ball. He also is patient and makes consistent contact; despite his power approach, he's one of the toughest players to strike out in Division I thanks to excellent barrel awareness. He's a skilled hitter who hits behind runners, bunts and executes the hit-and-runs effectively. Defensively, Colon's range is limited, and his speed and arm are below-average for a shortstop. He does exhibit fluid and quick fielding actions and his playmaking ability is outstanding. For scouts who focus on what he can do, his tremendous hands and footwork, as well as his bat control, make him a future big league regular, best suited as an offensive second baseman.

Here is his bio from the Cal State Fullertron site.

http://www.fullertontitans.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/colon_christian00.html

[MikeyBoy]

WTF is barrel awareness?

[Navin R Johnson]

Sounds like something that Bernie Brewer would rank high at.

[Jacksonian]

Aren't there just so many above average speed and glove SS/CF types with pop but not a huge power upside you go after before you need to start considering taking the slow fat kid that looks like he'll hit 25-40 HRs a year?

[And before I get massacred for the question, a couple of things: I'm not calling Mier, Austin or Castro all glove type players; I understand the draw in projectable athletic pitchers like Lyles and Bushue; I remember the Astros signed Telvin Nash; and no I do not think I am, nor mean to act like I am, some kind of draft or prospect expert.  I'm not, not even close, just informed enough to draw some (very probably wrong) conclusions about what I GUESS may occur... This may be (yet another) stupid question, but it is a serious one...].

Your point is valid.  But I'm not sure the Astros have the volume of high level talent in the system to use their first pick on a guy like that.  I could see it more likely at 19 and even more likely in 1S or 2 (keep an eye on the Auburn 1b).

[jbm]

WTF is barrel awareness?

my google search revealed a gun video and this:

Barrel awareness (noun): the ability to consistently put the barrel of the bat on pitches, particularly in ways that put the ball in play to desired areas of the field.

They seem to be really reaching with these descriptors.

[MikeyBoy]

my google search revealed a gun video and this:

Barrel awareness (noun): the ability to consistently put the barrel of the bat on pitches, particularly in ways that put the ball in play to desired areas of the field.

They seem to be really reaching with these descriptors.

So, "hits the ball hard to all fields." Got it.

[MusicMan]

Jon Heyman: still an idiot

19. Houston Astros
Yordy Cabrera, SS, Lakeland HS (Fla.)

Cabrera has dropped over the past couple years but is still viewed as very talented. Fills a need at shortstop.

[Russe]

Especially since no one thinks Cabrera will stick at SS in pro ball.

[moriartp]

BA did a draft chat this afternoon. I believe it's open to all. Here are the comments that specifically mentioned the Astros:

Tim (Houston, TX): Do you know what direction, and anyone in particular, the Astros are leaning with their two first-round picks? I'm hearing they like some HS position players, but wouldn't college players closer to the majors make more sense?

John Manuel: Actually, I'd disagree that college players make more sense. If you want to run in place, then draft some low-ceiling jokers. Their best prospects include two high school guys in Lyles and Mier. We've heard the Astros heavily connected to Deshields and other athletic HS hitters this spring, and they also are big on athletes. Houston also places more emphasis on workouts, so they could spring a surprise. Lyles is one example and that one has worked out for them so far.
   

Joe LeCates (Easton, MD): Delino Deshields: an overdraft if Houston takes him in the 1st with either pick?

John Manuel: Yes for their first, not a terrible reach at 19. If we re-did our Top 200, he'd be higher than the 50s. His performance was a little uneven this spring but I think I undersold him a bit (just saying that because I do Georgia).


Eduardo Gomez (Puerto Rico): What are the chances that Dickie Joe Thon goes in one of the three 1st round picks that the Astros have ? I heard he is going to a work out in Houston in front of the GM !!

Conor Glassey: I think that would be a reach, but it does sound like it will take that kind of money to pry him away from Rice.

Link

[OregonStrosFan]

MLB Bonus Baby's Mock Draft #8: LINK

8. Houston Astros - Michael Choice, OF, UT Arlington - Rumors are flying in every direction for the Astros, though most involve a bat at this point, which is what I've expected all spring. However, the similarity in the rumors ends about there, as they're connected to five or six players that are all over draft boards, and signability is supposed to be an issue for a team that usually pays slot and has extra picks. Choice is a solid natural fit.

19. Houston Astros - Delino DeShields, OF, Woodward Academy (GA) - This is yet another rumor that won't go away, and I'm very close to the action on this one. There's a lot of late movement going on in Georgia, and DeShields is at the center of that movement. The Astros are certainly in love with his bat, and I'd be surprised if they took the chance of seeing if he fell to their pick at #33.

[astrosfan76]

Perfect Game's latest mock. 

8. HOUSTON ASTROS
Kolbrin Vitek, 3b/of, Ball State
The more I learn about the previously unheralded Vitek, the more I like. He isn’t as strong physically as Choice, or a lefthanded hitter like Cox, but he seems to be more of a sure thing to combine both hitting ability with power at the big-league level. His combination of speed and arm strength is superior to either Choice or Cox, and scouts think he should become solid defensively, either in center field or third base. The Astros’ slot seems to be frequently associated with high-school bats like Josh Sale (Washington) or DeShields, but I struggle to find the rationale behind either of those players at this point in the draft.

19. HOUSTON ASTROS (from Tigers for Jose Valverde)
Josh Sale, of, Bishop Blanchet HS, Seattle
Astros scouting director Bobby Heck was with the Brewers, when they picked Prince Fielder in the first round (seventh overall) of the 2002 draft. While their physiques are different, one can imagine that the thought process shouldn’t be too different. Sale doesn’t offer much more than left-field potential athletically, but his power potential is huge and his path to the big leagues might be very short for a high-school hitter.

Vitek would be seem to be a Castro-type pick, where we grab a player higher than most pundits expect.  I don't always pay attention to other teams' projected picks, but I don't remember anyone having Vitek close to this high.  BA doesn't seem as confident about his ability to play in the infield as a pro, so he could be an OF.  He may not have enough pure speed for the Astros' liking to be a CF, leaving him as a RF with just an average arm, or a good LF.  I'm not going to rule out either one or a combination, but I would be surprised to see them pick both of these guys in the 1st round. 

http://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=4812

[OregonStrosFan]

Kevin Goldstein's mock at BP: LINK

8. Houston Astros: Houston is focused on upside in the first round, but at the same time, they wouldn't mind something that could help them a little quicker than your standard high-school toolshed. In a system with virtually no power, Michael Choice offers a mature college bat with a huge power ceiling, as well as impressive right field tools that allow for some upside. He's the perfect fit here, but Houston still could end up tempted by a pure dream machine like high school outfielder Austin Wilson.

Pick: Michael Choice, OF, UT-Arlington

19. Houston Astros: The Astros are still going to be looking at tools at 19, and would be thrilled to make a run at Wilson if he falls to them, but they also could hedge their bet with a high-upside young arm who is a bit more affordable. After Taillon, righty Karsten Whitson has sperated himself from the rest of the pack for some due to a combination of right now velocity and a body that screams projection.

Pick: Karston Whitson, RHP, Chipley HS (FL)

[OregonStrosFan]

The BA Draft: LINK

This isn't a prediction of how the first round will unfold, but rather what would happen if our lead draft writers were in charge of each team's scouting department. Glassey won the first pick, followed by Callis and Manuel, and they alternated picks throughout the first round while trying to stay true to each club's finances and needs.

8. ASTROS (Jim). Whitson has become the No. 2 prep pitcher in this draft, though I wonder if the Mets' on-the-hot-seat front office won't rather have a guy who could help quicker. As for the Astros, I'm sold on Zack Cox, so I'm taking him here. The questions some teams have about Cox don't bother me. He's the best pure hitter in the draft, and he has enough strength in his 6-foot, 215-pound frame for me to believe he'll have at least average power. He has a strong arm and works hard, and if there's a position where you can become a decent defender by taking a ton of grounders, it's third base. I see him as a .300 hitter with 15-20 homers per year at the hot corner, and the Astros don't have a guy like that. Cox is a draft-eligible sophomore who's reportedly angling for an above-slot deal, but if gambles on re-entering the draft, I don't see how he can do any better in 2011, when there should be a deeper pool of talent.

19. ASTROS (Conor). It might be tempting for the Astros to redraft Arkansas two-way talent Brett Eibner with this pick, making up for not signing him out of high school in 2007. Instead, I'm going to go with Brandon Workman. He has been part of the nation's best college pitching staff at Texas this year and could move quickly to the big leagues.

[Russe]

Scuttlebutt over at TCB is that in an interview with Matt Thomas, Wade said the draft budget will between $8.5 and $10MM...anyone over here hear that? IIRC, that's way more than previous years, assuming it's accurate. Makes me think they might actually take a run at some like Wilson...though my gut feeling is that a lot of that money will be used to take HS guys over slot in later rounds.

[OregonStrosFan]

Scuttlebutt over at TCB is that in an interview with Matt Thomas, Wade said the draft budget will between $8.5 and $10MM...anyone over here hear that? IIRC, that's way more than previous years, assuming it's accurate. Makes me think they might actually take a run at some like Wilson...though my gut feeling is that a lot of that money will be used to take HS guys over slot in later rounds.

Don't know if that's correct, but if so, using 2008 slot recommendations (should be close enough as they were lowered 10% in '09 and might go up a tad this year), the following numbers may help to see how much room the Astros really have to play with in the draft:

  8: $2,270,000
 19. $1,580,000
 33. $1,040,000
 58.   $694,000
 90.   $430,000
123.  $263,000
152.  $184,000

[slot max is $150,000 after the 5th round]

183.  $150,000
213.  $150,000
243.  $150,000
273.  $150,000
303.  $150,000

Total though 10 rounds = 7.211M +$400K for remaining 40 rds (guesstimate)

subtracting above from 8.5M and 10.0M

Total:  leaves between 889M and 2.389M 'extra'

Rough guesses on what that means: you could sign Allie and have to stick with slot everywhere else on the board; sign Cox and still have up to $1.3M to sign overslots, et...

[moriartp]

Scuttlebutt over at TCB is that in an interview with Matt Thomas, Wade said the draft budget will between $8.5 and $10MM...anyone over here hear that? IIRC, that's way more than previous years, assuming it's accurate. Makes me think they might actually take a run at some like Wilson...though my gut feeling is that a lot of that money will be used to take HS guys over slot in later rounds.

That $1.5 million is an awfully big gap. Probably depends on a specific player (or perhaps players in the later rounds) being available. Either way, nice to see that the budget might be that high.

[astrosfan76]

Good work, OSF.  Callis tweeted yesterday that he's hearing slot will be above '09, but still under '08, so slot may come a little closer to $7M for the 1st 10 rounds.  For reference, we spent $6.5M in '08 on the draft (though it would have been higher with Davidson).  So, Heck does have some extra money to play with. 

[Navin R Johnson]

I just listened to the podcast of the interview that was referenced on TCB, Ed never says anything about a budget.

Here is the link, interview starts around 30 minute mark

http://www.790kbme.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=mattthomas.xml

[jbm]

Good work, OSF.  Callis tweeted yesterday that he's hearing slot will be above '09, but still under '08, so slot may come a little closer to $7M for the 1st 10 rounds.  For reference, we spent $6.5M in '08 on the draft (though it would have been higher with Davidson).  So, Heck does have some extra money to play with. 

I don't follow drafting/signing that closely, is this apparent rigidity (setting a hard and fast budget predraft) normal operating procedure for most clubs?  This seems like a good place to be flexible, not to earn a rep as a free spender to be exploited by agents, but to be flexible if the right guy is available.

[OregonStrosFan]

I don't follow drafting/signing that closely, is this apparent rigidity (setting a hard and fast budget predraft) normal operating procedure for most clubs?  This seems like a good place to be flexible, not to earn a rep as a free spender to be exploited by agents, but to be flexible if the right guy is available.

Pretty sure Drayton hangs around for at least the 1st day of picks (not sure about the 2nd day), so if you need to ask for a little extra cash it seems like you'd have the right person there to make the request... [/wag]

[accougars]

Scuttlebutt over at TCB is that in an interview with Matt Thomas, Wade said the draft budget will between $8.5 and $10MM...anyone over here hear that? IIRC, that's way more than previous years, assuming it's accurate. Makes me think they might actually take a run at some like Wilson...though my gut feeling is that a lot of that money will be used to take HS guys over slot in later rounds.

I wonder how much those numbers could be adjusted if, over the next few days, Uncle Drayton decides to pull the plug on this season? Would those number go up a couple million if you knew you were going to be trading Oswalt, Myers, Sampson, ect.?

If you did move a guy like Oswalt, wouldn't it be nice if you could turn around to your fans and tell them we are going to use this money by investing heavily in the draft, international signings, and player development?

[OregonStrosFan]

Astros County has posted Law's latest Mock: LINK

He has Zack Cox going at #7 to the Mets, leaving Josh Sale at #8:
I've heard Michael Choice's name here twice in the last 48 hours. The Astros love Sale and won't get him at 19.

So at #19 he has Kolbrin Vitek - 2B, Ball State
They'd love DeShields if he falls here, but I think that's unlikely, so they may have to choose at 8 between him and Sale. Also potentially on Barrett Loux or Reggie Golden, although I think Golden will be there in the sandwich round.

[OregonStrosFan]

And Sickels at Minor League Ball has posted his final mock: LINK

8) Astros: Zach Cox, 3B, University of Arkansas: Another pick in flux according to everything I have heard, but most scouts love Cox and he shouldn't fall much farther than this.

19) Astros: Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchet HS, Seattle, Washington: Would pair nicely with Cox to provide the core of a future Houston lineup.

[hostros7]

And Sickels at Minor League Ball has posted his final mock: LINK

Astros: Zach Cox, 3B, University of Arkansas: Another pick in flux according to everything I have heard, but most scouts love Cox and he shouldn't fall much farther than this.

19) Astros: Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchet HS, Seattle, Washington: Would pair nicely with Cox to provide the core of a future Houston lineup.

If what I've read about Cox's defense is true, the pick just doesn't make any sense.  It's the Smoak scenario redux.

[accougars]

If what I've read about Cox's defense is true, the pick just doesn't make any sense.  It's the Smoak scenario redux.

And it seems as if Smoak was considered a better bat at that time!

[Jacksonian]

I think there's still one good sized wild card with regard to the top 10.  If Ranaudo goes out on Saturday and dominates with the stuff he showed last year, he could go top 10.  That's not a scenario people are looking at right now though.

[OregonStrosFan]

And Sickels at Minor League Ball has posted his final mock: LINK

8) Astros: Zach Cox, 3B, University of Arkansas: Another pick in flux according to everything I have heard, but most scouts love Cox and he shouldn't fall much farther than this.

19) Astros: Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchet HS, Seattle, Washington: Would pair nicely with Cox to provide the core of a future Houston lineup.

BTW, while a number of pundits have said Delino DeShields Jr. would be an overdraft for the Astros at 19, Law has his going to the Rangers at 15.

[astrosfan76]

I think there's still one good sized wild card with regard to the top 10.  If Ranaudo goes out on Saturday and dominates with the stuff he showed last year, he could go top 10.  That's not a scenario people are looking at right now though.

Mayo was asked that same question in a chat today.  His response was "Don't see the Top 10 because of signability, though it's not completely out of the question.  I think the signability plus the question marks stemming from his season will limit how much he moves up."  

I think it would take a team that's done a lot of research on him over the season to pop him in the top 10.  A lot of his value has been in his durability and high floor; with questions in those departments, will he accept a closer-to-slot deal?  Is he willing to go back to school if he feels his value has dropped too much?

[Jacksonian]

Mayo was asked that same question in a chat today.  His response was "Don't see the Top 10 because of signability, though it's not completely out of the question.  I think the signability plus the question marks stemming from his season will limit how much he moves up."  

I think it would take a team that's done a lot of research on him over the season to pop him in the top 10.  A lot of his value has been in his durability and high floor; with questions in those departments, will he accept a closer-to-slot deal?  Is he willing to go back to school if he feels his value has dropped too much?

Considering next year's draft class is supposed to be much deeper at the front of the draft than this year's if he goes top 10 I would expect him to sign for close to slot money.  If he goes in the top 10 this year it will take an outstanding year next year to move up from that spot in the draft at all.

[OregonStrosFan]

If what I've read about Cox's defense is true, the pick just doesn't make any sense.  It's the Smoak scenario redux.

The reports (and projections) on his defense are mixed.  He has a strong arm, but range has been limited.  Leaving the offense aside for the moment, here are some of the comments regarding his defense that I've been able to find:

BA had some quotes from his coach: LINK (behind pay wall)

"People don't notice, but one of the things he's done is gotten a lot better defensively," Van Horn said. "He can make the routine play, he can make the off-balance throw on the slow roller. When he came in he was a little stiff and tight, and we had to get everything lined up right. He's lighter now, he's a lot more limber and flexible, and he's just quicker in the field.

BAs scouting report: LINK (behind pay wall, I think)

Six feet and 215 pounds, Cox is a decent athlete with fringy speed and range at third base. Not all scouts are sold on his defensive ability. He does have a strong arm—he threw in the low 90s as a reliever a year ago—and will put in the work to improve his reactions at third base. He also has seen time at second base, and one scout said his actions looked better there, but his athleticism is more suited for the hot corner.

PNR scouting report: LINK (lots of good info in the report as a whole)

Cox's defense at third base is solid and he is equipped with plenty of arm for the left side. He shows clean footwork and sets himself up well on his throws, adding accuracy to his plus arm grade. Cox handles the position well, showing a good understanding of his defensive game and capabilities, and projects as a steady defender at the pro ranks. He can be uncertain at times when charging, sacrificing some aggression and therefor "steps", but he should improve with experience. Cox has also logged time at second base this year, including April 24th at Florida. His actions are raw there, but there's something to work with and he made all the plays required of him (including balls to each side). His footwork is serviceable, but may be lacking (along with his range) for a middle-infield position at the next level.

Comments at MLB Bonus Baby: LINK

1. Cox’s defense is solid-average right now, and his best defensive asset is a plus arm. His range is somewhat fringy, but he’s actually improved it a bit this year, and if his second base experiment tells you anything, it’s that his coach believes in his glove and athletic ability. I give Cox a 75% chance or better to stick at third.

Some additional notes from MLB Bonus Baby from their scouting report (LINK n/a)

He’s a slightly below-average runner with fringe-average range at third base, but he still has a
plus arm that will serve him well if he ever has to move to right field at the next level. He has plenty of
tools to be an early first round pick, and should be off the board in the top fifteen picks where his status
as an age-eligible sophomore shouldn’t come into play in terms of his signability.

Project Prospect (who's evals I haven't particularly been sold on across the board, especially regarding Lyles and Castro, then again, what do I know about scouting prospects..) have been pretty hesitant about Cox across the board:  LINK

And then what you're also looking at with him is he's not a guy who's going to be able to play even below-average defense at second base. And perhaps average defense at third base...I think we've all been scratching our heads over the amount of hype he's been getting.

[Noe]

The reports (and projections) on his defense are mixed.  He has a strong arm, but range has been limited.  Leaving the offense aside for the moment, here are some of the comments regarding his defense that I've been able to find:

BA had some quotes from his coach: LINK (behind pay wall)

"People don't notice, but one of the things he's done is gotten a lot better defensively," Van Horn said. "He can make the routine play, he can make the off-balance throw on the slow roller. When he came in he was a little stiff and tight, and we had to get everything lined up right. He's lighter now, he's a lot more limber and flexible, and he's just quicker in the field.

BAs scouting report: LINK (behind pay wall, I think)

Six feet and 215 pounds, Cox is a decent athlete with fringy speed and range at third base. Not all scouts are sold on his defensive ability. He does have a strong arm—he threw in the low 90s as a reliever a year ago—and will put in the work to improve his reactions at third base. He also has seen time at second base, and one scout said his actions looked better there, but his athleticism is more suited for the hot corner.

PNR scouting report: LINK (lots of good info in the report as a whole)

Cox's defense at third base is solid and he is equipped with plenty of arm for the left side. He shows clean footwork and sets himself up well on his throws, adding accuracy to his plus arm grade. Cox handles the position well, showing a good understanding of his defensive game and capabilities, and projects as a steady defender at the pro ranks. He can be uncertain at times when charging, sacrificing some aggression and therefor "steps", but he should improve with experience. Cox has also logged time at second base this year, including April 24th at Florida. His actions are raw there, but there's something to work with and he made all the plays required of him (including balls to each side). His footwork is serviceable, but may be lacking (along with his range) for a middle-infield position at the next level.

Comments at MLB Bonus Baby: LINK

1. Cox’s defense is solid-average right now, and his best defensive asset is a plus arm. His range is somewhat fringy, but he’s actually improved it a bit this year, and if his second base experiment tells you anything, it’s that his coach believes in his glove and athletic ability. I give Cox a 75% chance or better to stick at third.

Some additional notes from MLB Bonus Baby from their scouting report (LINK n/a)

He’s a slightly below-average runner with fringe-average range at third base, but he still has a
plus arm that will serve him well if he ever has to move to right field at the next level. He has plenty of
tools to be an early first round pick, and should be off the board in the top fifteen picks where his status
as an age-eligible sophomore shouldn’t come into play in terms of his signability.

Project Prospect (who's evals I haven't particularly been sold on across the board, especially regarding Lyles and Castro, then again, what do I know about scouting prospects..) have been pretty hesitant about Cox across the board:  LINK

And then what you're also looking at with him is he's not a guy who's going to be able to play even below-average defense at second base. And perhaps average defense at third base...I think we've all been scratching our heads over the amount of hype he's been getting.

Those are actually very favorable reports on defense because you don't rate "speed and range" as huge factors for third any way.  The list for defensive prowess at third (IMHO) should be as follows:

1. Quickness
2. Accurate Arm
3. Strong Arm
4. Good footwork.
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somwhere way down here should be "range" and/or "speed" for defense.   BTW - much like a young Jeff Kent, a move to second base for such a kid can mean some serious offensive weapon at a relatively non-descreet defensive position on the field.  Kent started off as a third baseman, so if this kid is legit, that is a projection that could pay huge dividends if he pans out.

[OregonStrosFan]

Notes from McTaggart's draft preview: LINK

The task now for the Astros, who have five of the first 90 picks, is to take advantage of the extra picks and have their third consecutive strong Draft under general manager Ed Wade and assistant general manager/director of scouting Bobby Heck***

In about 50 words
Talent rules the day. The Astros' farm system, which was decimated by poor Drafts in 2005 and 2006 and their inability to sign their top two picks in the 2007 Draft, still needs to be restocked. Houston contends it's going to take the best player available regardless of position.

The scoop
"Knowing where we picked after last season ended and after the Winter Meetings, knowing we were getting extra picks for Valverde, it's been very challenging because the fact is every player is in play. But it was also very rewarding from the fact every scout, their lists were all in play. It's been fun, but also understanding, too, is the impact that it can mean to a club and how important it is to nail these picks." -- Heck

First-round buzz
Don't be surprised to see the Astros take a pitcher, especially considering this year's Draft is heavy with quality high school and college right-handed arms. *** With five of the first 90 picks, don't be surprised to see at least a couple of pitchers taken off the board.

Shopping list
Some of the pitchers the Astros have drafted in the past two years, including Ross Seaton and Jordan Lyles, are steadily progressing through the Minors, but the club won't shy away from adding more. The talent at catcher drops off after Castro, who's at Triple-A Round Rock, so don't be surprised to see additional catching depth. Of course, Houston is in need of power bats throughout its Minor League system.

Trend watch
The Astros would like to have a good balance between college and high school players, but they will go for the best talent early. That being said, if they have two players rated equally on the board and one of the positions is a biggest strength, they won't shy away from going with the area of need in that situation.

[hostros7]

Those are actually very favorable reports on defense because you don't rate "speed and range" as huge factors for third any way.  The list for defensive prowess at third (IMHO) should be as follows:

1. Quickness
2. Accurate Arm
3. Strong Arm
4. Good footwork.
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somwhere way down here should be "range" and/or "speed" for defense.   BTW - much like a young Jeff Kent, a move to second base for such a kid can mean some serious offensive weapon at a relatively non-descreet defensive position on the field.  Kent started off as a third baseman, so if this kid is legit, that is a projection that could pay huge dividends if he pans out.

good glove work/soft hands

[Noe]

good glove work/soft hands

Yes, good catch.  Slot that in right behind #1.

[Andyzipp]

Yes, good catch.  Slot that in right behind #1.

For third base?  Desired, but not really necessary.

[MusicMan]

For third base?  Desired, but not really necessary.

Pam wants the soft hands.

[OregonStrosFan]

Astros pre-draft press conference going on now: LINK

[OregonStrosFan]

VERY ROUGH transcript of highlights of pre-draft press conference.

Talent rules the day, so take the most talented player. [However, said that if they had 2 equally talented guys and already had a Castro or Mier type player at that position in the system, would take that into consideration.]

RHP is the strength in this draft, both college and HS. And that's where we've done the most separating in this draft.

Impact, risk, track record with that player, secondary ptiches, time to the majors, etc. (re how they 'separate' pitchers)

Try to get as many looks at as many players possible.

Every draft, every pick is important. Can't afford to let anyone slide through the cracks.

Heck: Looking for matches at what you evaluate the players at as well as what they are looking for, signability is important.  Wade: with that said, we have the money to sign [whatever] player we need, and [it won't be a factor]

Heck: basically said Astros don't worry as much about who others will pick, rather their focus is to get their board straight.

Heck: the biggest thing lacking in this draft is high end draft pick college position players. That, and college LHPs.

Have reestablished relationships with Eibner, Dietrich and Bettis, and all have signed letters of consent (?) [which would allow the Astros to draft them again].

Wade: Yes, we have the ability to [go over slot]. We won't do it to say that we went over slot 7 times, but we do have the money to take the best player.

[moriartp]

Thanks for the highlights, OSF. You a pro.

[astrosfan76]

Chad Bettis is the other failed pick from '05.  Sounds like Wade is really proud that he got Drayton to sign off on going over slot.  

[austro]

Sounds like Wade is really proud that he got Drayton to sign off on going over slot. 

I'd just prefer that he didn't announce it to all of the agents out there.

[OregonStrosFan]

Chad Bettis is the other failed pick from '05.  Sounds like Wade is really proud that he got Drayton to sign off on going over slot.  

He talked a couple of times about going over slot.  The first was really just to make sure folks didn't take Heck's "signability" comments out of context [Heck was basically saying that signability in terms of money was important, but really meant it in terms of money requested relative to the value of the particular player.  So, if you have a dude that's worth $1 million, you don't draft him if it will take less than $7 million to sign him.].  Trying to make sure all the Pinwheel's of the world didn't go out and print that the Astros are skimping on drafting...

The second time was to again emphasize the point, but to also give a bit of a warning that even though going over slot wasn't going to be a problem that agents/players shouldn't consider it a license to steal (he didn't exactly say that, but his intent I thought was clear...).

The honest gist I got was that the Astros were going to draft they players that they wanted to sign, period.  If it cost them extra to do it, so be it, but don't hold us up because you think we are just going to throw money at this draft.

[OregonStrosFan]

I'd just prefer that he didn't announce it to all of the agents out there.

Thought Wade did a good job of reigning agents in with his comments at the end.

[OregonStrosFan]

I'd just prefer that he didn't announce it to all of the agents out there.

Hearing him talk about slot in the press conference also got me curious as to why they would do a pre-draft press conference in the first place.  Is this something they usually do?

[OregonStrosFan]

Callis has his 6/4 mock posted: LINK

Next mock will be on the 7th (as will the draft...).  Interesting that while a number of folks have called DeShields an overdraft if the Astros took him at #19, neither Callis nor Law think he will still be there at that time.

8. ASTROS. Houston has been on Washington high school outfielder Josh Sale's power bat all spring, but its ardor for Georgia high school outfielder Delino DeShields' athleticism is equally well known. With the Blue Jays (No. 11) and Rays (No. 17) interested in DeShields and picking before the Astros' next choice at No. 19, Houston could switch to DeShields.

PROJECTED PICK: JOSH SALE.

19. ASTROS. Houston would love to get DeShields here, but it may have to settle for Golden or Arkansas outfielder/righthander Brett Eibner, whom they failed to sign as a fourth-rounder out of high school three years ago.

PROJECTED PICK: REGGIE GOLDEN.

[OregonStrosFan]

Workout invitees:

Kyle Reddinger; 6'3," 195 3B/RHP prep: ARTICLE

BA: Third baseman Kyle Redinger, a Penn State signee, has a lanky 6-foot-3, 190-pound frame with plenty of power potential and athleticism, but scouts agreed that he needs to develop his overall game, which is raw. He could also help the Nittany Lions on the mound.

[astrosfan76]

Callis' overnight update on his top 10:

8. ASTROS. Josh Sale, of, Bishop Blanchet HS. This is the toughest pick to call in the first 10. Houston has been on Sale for a while, but also loves Georgia prep outfielder Delino DeShields. If the Astros have to have DeShields, they may have to pop him here rather than waiting until pick No. 19.

http://ht.ly/1UEcj

[Navin R Johnson]

Dickie Thon Jr was also at the workout at Minute Maid on Thursday.

[Jacksonian]

I don't think I'll be available much tomorrow before the first round, so here are my official guesses out of my ass.  Keep in mind the Astros are being very tight lipped.

8. Stetson Allie
19. either Eibner, DeShields, or Austin Wilson depending on availability.
33. Paxton or Solis.

[OregonStrosFan]

I don't think I'll be available much tomorrow before the first round, so here are my official guesses out of my ass.  Keep in mind the Astros are being very tight lipped.

8. Stetson Allie
19. either Eibner, DeShields, or Austin Wilson depending on availability.
33. Paxton or Solis.

I could get excited about getting a high school arm consistently hitting high 90s with an above average slider and changeup at the top of the draft...  MLB scouting link

[moriartp]

3B Kellen Sweeney was apparently in town last week. Link

Says BA:


Sweeney's older brother Ryan was a White Sox second-round pick in 2003 and now starts in right field for the Athletics. Ryan was the better athlete—he could have been drafted just as high as a pitcher—but Kellen is a better hitter at the same stage of their careers. The 6-foot-1, 180-pounder has a quick lefthanded bat, a fluid stroke and good pull power. He struggled on the showcase circuit last summer, but scouts don't hold that against him because he hurt his elbow pitching in the final game of his junior season and required Tommy John surgery in August. Though he's a slightly above-average runner, Sweeney doesn't cover enough ground to stick at shortstop in pro ball. Assuming he regains his previous arm strength, he could make a good third baseman, and it's possible he could handle second base. Sweeney will go a few rounds later than his brother did, but that should be high enough to divert him from attending San Diego.


ETA John Klima at Baseball Beginnings offers his opinion (with video).

[OregonStrosFan]

Levine with info from Heck about how he negotiates with two-way players: "whether the player drives the conversation of where he'll play in the professional ranks. He said for the most part, he does let the player steer it."  LINK

"You want his heart to be in it even though you're going to give him the money," Heck said. "In most instances, it's a guy you value as a pitcher and he still wants to go be a position player.

"A lot of times what you'll do is you'll sign the player, knowing that it's highly likely the bat will fail and he'll say 'I'm ready to pitch.'"

[OregonStrosFan]

Frankie Piliere says the Astros appear to be zeroing in at Josh Sale at #8. LINK

UPDATE (6/6 - 8:05 PM) - As it has long been believed, Josh Sale appears to be the Astros man at 8th overall, barring a slide by one of the top two college southpaws. Sale's signability doesn't appear to be a big issue and Houston is not enamored with the remaining pitching options that figure to be available for them. Look for Michael Kvasnicka, Chad Bettis, and possibly Brandon Workman to be options with their later picks.

[OregonStrosFan]

Dickie Thon Jr was also at the workout at Minute Maid on Thursday.

As was Joe Carcone. LINK

As a junior, he shared Tri Valley League East Division Player of the Year honors after hitting .412 and stealing 22 bases. This spring, the four-year starter batted .552 – raising his career average to .429 – and he led New Hartford’s Spartans in hits (32), runs (27), doubles (9), triples (5), RBIs (19), walks (14), stolen bases (19), on-base percentage (.662) and slugging percentage (.931).

The 5-foot-8, 175-pound Carcone has been a first team TVL all-star as a second baseman and outfielder, and this spring he played shortstop.

The 18-year-old Carcone also accepted an invitation from the Astros to an elite camp in Houston last week. He was one of about 35 players — all but Carcone was from the south and many of them were college players — and the Astros worked him out as a second baseman and outfielder.

Longtime major leaguer Craig Biggio hit infield and outfield balls to the players, and Carcone wore Lance Berkman’s helmet at the plate.

“If I don’t play baseball ever again in my life, that will top it all – just to be on that field was awesome,” Carcone said of the experience. “It kind of put it all in perspective. It showed me where I’m at, and how much I need to work to be as good as those guys.

“This was all a plus, like a preview of what I might have to do again in three or four years. Now, I’m prepared for it when it’s for real, when it’s do-or-die, when I could be done playing baseball.”

[moriartp]

Penn State catcher Ben Heath got an invitation, at least.

BA: Heath was limited by a pulled quad muscle as a sophomore in 2009 and split time even when healthy, but he broke out as a junior, slugging 19 home runs to break Penn State's 32-year-old school record. He worked hard in the offseason to improve his flexibility, which has loosened up his swing and made him more agile behind the plate. No longer muscle-bound, Heath also improved his arm strength dramatically, to the point that it's now average. A few scouts say Heath's feet and receiving skills will eventually force him to move from behind the plate, but the consensus is that he can be an average defensive catcher with work. Offensively, Heath has an unorthodox set-up with a lot of pre-pitch waggle, but he quiets down just before his stride and gets his hands in good position to hit. He has a long, high finish, but his swing is actually compact through the zone. He'll have his share of strikeouts in pro ball and projects as a fringe-average hitter, but his above-average raw power is usable in games. Most scouts peg him as an eighth- to 10th-round talent, but he could go higher given the perennial demand for catching.

[jaklewein]

I don't think I'll be available much tomorrow before the first round, so here are my official guesses out of my ass.  Keep in mind the Astros are being very tight lipped.

8. Stetson Allie
19. either Eibner, DeShields, or Austin Wilson depending on availability.
33. Paxton or Solis.

I'm hoping Kaleb Cowart gets selected in one of these spots.

[accougars]

I don't think I'll be available much tomorrow before the first round, so here are my official guesses out of my ass.  Keep in mind the Astros are being very tight lipped.

8. Stetson Allie
19. either Eibner, DeShields, or Austin Wilson depending on availability.
33. Paxton or Solis.

This isn't an official guess as much as it is my feelings/hope:

8. Deck McGuire -- The stros have been tight lipped. This kid has a high floor and should be able to help you soon. He also has pretty good stuff and a little bit of projection left. I saw him on TV and really like his downward plane as the fastball seems to have good life.

19. Allie, DeShields, Sale, Wilson -- I actually like these guys in that order. Though, I really like Wilson, but everyone seems to agree that he is a really tough sign.

33. Cabrera, Workman, Brentz -- I saw Cabrera play on television at some point, but I can't place it. He has tremendous tools. He could play a plus third, plus second, and all three outfield positions. High Risk and high reward type. Workman has been great all season for the Horns. I actually think he has a higher ceiling than McGuire, but he is going to needs some work. His command in the strikezone isn't great with the fastball, but the curve is dominant at his current level.

Later in the draft, I am really interested to see what happens with Zach Lee out of McKINNEY BOYD. Most have him pegged for LSU, but I wouldn't mind the Astros taking a flyer on him in the third. If he doesn't sign than you can get a pretty similar pick for him next year anyway.

[domedogs]

If Biddle is available at 1S/1 (33), I would bet that he is the pick there.  I wouldn't mind J. Sale at either 1st round pick.

[Navin R Johnson]

Here is an article from PR that verifies that Thon was at the Astros tryout.   Also talks about Christian Colon the SS from Cal State that will be a top 15 pick.

http://www.elnuevodia.com/muycotizadoelsiorecolon-718328.html

[OregonStrosFan]

Final Mocks:

Law (via Astros County Link)

#8: Delino DeShields, Jr

#19: Josh Sale
If Sale and Barrett Loux are gone, I would pick Houston as the club most likely to stun everyone with a pick from left field, as they did two years ago in the sandwich round with Jordan Lyles. That one has worked out nicely. They are also interested in Luke Jackson but probably more at No. 33.


Baseball America: Mock 4.0 LINK

8. ASTROS. Houston appears to have narrowed its choices to a pair of high school outfielders. Josh Sale has been tied to this pick all spring, but the Astros have fallen in love with Delino DeShields' athleticism and aren't sure he'll make it to their next pick at No. 19.
PROJECTED PICK: Josh Sale.

19. ASTROS. Houston's dream would be to wait and get DeShields here, but he won't get past both the Jays and Rays. Golden and Jackson are the most often-mentioned contingencies.
PROJECTED PICK: Reggie Golden.

Frankie Piliere at MLB Fanhouse final Mock: LINK

8. Astros | Josh Sale (OF) | Bishop Blanchet H.S. (Seattle, Wash.)
The Astros appear to be pretty comfortable with taking Sale. They see him as one of the top couple bats in the class and likely will not take the chance of waiting for him at 19th overall. Someone would surely take him somewhere in between.

19. Astros | Michael Kvasnicka (C/OF) | Minnesota
The Astros like Kvasnicka as much as any club out there and have even considered him for the eighth overall pick. That likely won't happen, but they'd be thrilled to see him still in the mix the next time around. DeShields and Reggie Golden are possibilities also.

[Froback]

5PM can't get here fast enough!

[OregonStrosFan]

McTaggart 'talks draft': LINK

High school potential ace vs. College quick to the majors 4th or 5th starter:

This year's draft is heavy on right-handed pitching, among both high school and college players. Astros assistant general manager in charge of scouting, Bobby Heck, said there will be several factors considered if the team is trying to decide between a high school and college arm.

"One is the impact they're going to have in the big leagues," he said.

In other words, if there's a high school player who could be a front-line starting pitcher four years down the road, the club would take him over a more polished college player who could make the big leagues in two years, but maybe as only a fourth or fifth starter.

Best player available:

When all is said and done, the Astros' philosophy has remained steady:

"Best athlete available," Wade said. "Our philosophy is not going to change. We're not pitching intensive, high school intensive, position player intensive. It's about trying to get the best athletes into our system and get them developed at the proper pace under [assistant general manager in charge of player development] Ricky Bennett's guidance.

[OregonStrosFan]

5PM can't get here fast enough!

No kidding.  I hate to even remotely be seen as agreeing with Law about anything, but will be surprised if the Astros do not 'surprise' me with 'a pick from left field' at some point this evening (or at least by their 2nd round pick).

[OregonStrosFan]

Mayo's final mock: LINK

8. Houston Astros: Michael Choice, OF, Texas-Arlington
Seemed like Houston was leaning college, rather than high school, bat here, with Choice the most likely ... choice.

19. Houston Astros: Delino DeShields Jr., OF, Woodward Park Academy
This has been the buzz all along. There's a chance the Astros reach to get him at No. 8 if they think he'll be gone.

[hostros7]

Mayo's final mock: LINK

8. Houston Astros: Michael Choice, OF, Texas-Arlington
Seemed like Houston was leaning college, rather than high school, bat here, with Choice the most likely ... choice.

19. Houston Astros: Delino DeShields Jr., OF, Woodward Park Academy
This has been the buzz all along. There's a chance the Astros reach to get him at No. 8 if they think he'll be gone.

I don't know what to make of the DD chatter.  From an athetiscism perspective, he fits the Wade/Heck mold, but the knocks on his passion for the game/attitude contradict what has been said about taking someone who has a fire burning to play.  Also, the buzz has been wrong on the Astros in years past.  Only a few more hours until we find out I guess. 

[pots]

It seems Sale is garning more and more interest.  Starting to think he will not be there by the 8th pick.

Edit:
err nevermind, I think I've gotten my Sales crossed a few times

[OregonStrosFan]

but the knocks on his passion for the game/attitude contradict what has been said about taking someone who has a fire burning to play.

Was surprised to read the knocks on him as well (considering how high the Astros are alleged to be on him, doesn't fit the 'mold' so to speak...).

[OregonStrosFan]

Sickels final mock: LINK

8) Astros: Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchett HS, Seattle, Washington: Zach Cox rumors have died off in favor of Sale, who has a terrific bat and should be signable in this slot.

19) Astros: Reggie Golden, OF, Watumpka HS, Alabama: Golden is a tools hound whose stock is rising, and the Astros reportedly have a strong interest.

[OregonStrosFan]

Mocking mock drafts. LINK

Interesting piece on mock drafts and behind the scenes draft info from Baseball Beginnings.

[OregonStrosFan]

BPs final mock: LINK  (I think this leaves only MLB Bonus Baby as the only 'Mock' I follow that hasn't released its final version).

8. Houston Astros: Houston likes the high-ceiling high school players this year, with an intense fixation on Delino DeShields, Jr.  How intense? They could take him here as a huge overdraft just to make sure they get him.  Most think scouting director Bobby Heck will come to his senses by this evening.

Pick: Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchett HS (WA)

19. Houston Astros: They want their Delino, they get their Delino here.

Pick: Delino DeShields, 2B, Woodward Academy (GA)

[OregonStrosFan]

Tallying the 'final mocks' (sans MLB Bonus Baby, which will be added into the mix when it comes down')

Astros pick at #8:

John Sale - 4
Michael Choice - 1
Delino DeShields Jr. - 1

Astros pick at #19:

Reggie Golden - 2
Michael Kvasnicka - 1
Josh Sale - 1
Delino DeShields Jr - 1

[BudGirl]

In other words, no one knows what the Astros are going to do.

[S.P. Rodriguez]

In other words, no one knows what the Astros are going to do.

Maybe it's just me, but that's not why I'm following all the mocks.  It's interesting to make note of the "scouting" takes on these kids and then compare it to what we see if they make it to AAA/Majors

[BudGirl]

I like the fact that we don't know.  Seems like the Astros have scouted a lot of players.  I have enjoyed reading most of the stuff the guys (OSF) shared.

[Duman]

The attention the draft is getting is amazing.  OSF has done a great job of keeping on top of the stuff out there. 

I am interested to see how close these mock drafts are.  The reason they are called mock drafts is because you can make fun of them after the draft when they aren't even close.  Right?

[astrosfan76]

The attention the draft is getting is amazing.  OSF has done a great job of keeping on top of the stuff out there. 

I am interested to see how close these mock drafts are.  The reason they are called mock drafts is because you can make fun of them after the draft when they aren't even close.  Right?

A few years back, Callis managed to get the first 12 or so picks correct.  That was unheard of, and he still marvels at that streak.  That shows how much of a guessing game it is, despite the number of sources they may get information from. 

[OregonStrosFan]

MLB Bonus Baby's final mock: LINK  (alternative pick in parenthesis)

8. Astros - Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchet HS, WA (Delino DeShields)
19. Astros - Luke Jackson, RHP, Calvary Christian HS, FL (Reggie Golden)

Final mock draft tallies:

Astros pick at #8:

John Sale - 5
Michael Choice - 1
Delino DeShields Jr. - 1

Astros pick at #19:

Reggie Golden - 2
Michael Kvasnicka - 1
Josh Sale - 1
Delino DeShields Jr - 1
Luke Jackson - 1

[Navin R Johnson]

So would folks be happy with DeShields at 8?   Seems early, but if they like the guy that much....

[OregonStrosFan]

So would folks be happy with DeShields at 8?   Seems early, but if they like the guy that much....

Not particularly... [/guywhodoesntknowjackaboutjudginprospects]

[domedogs]

I would rather have more of an impact bat at #8.  Sale seems to have that type of ceiling.  DD sounds like a table setter type.  I'd take Sale.

[OregonStrosFan]

Bagwell in a suit?  Body double maybe?

[moriartp]

So would folks be happy with DeShields at 8?   Seems early, but if they like the guy that much....

Bobby Heck knows a lot more about this than we do. And note that his past "overdrafts" have worked out pretty well so far.

[Jacksonian]

Tallying the 'final mocks' (sans MLB Bonus Baby, which will be added into the mix when it comes down')

Astros pick at #8:

John Sale - 4
Michael Choice - 1
Delino DeShields Jr. - 1

Astros pick at #19:

Reggie Golden - 2
Michael Kvasnicka - 1
Josh Sale - 1
Delino DeShields Jr - 1

Hey what about my mock of the first round!?

[domedogs]

Bobby Heck knows a lot more about this than we do. And note that his past "overdrafts" have worked out pretty well so far.

I agree 100%

[OregonStrosFan]

Bobby Heck knows a lot more about this than we do. And note that his past "overdrafts" have worked out pretty well so far.

This.

[OregonStrosFan]

Hey what about my mock of the first round!?

Doh!

[OregonStrosFan]

BTW, whether I would be 'happy' with the DeShields pick at #8 and whether I trust Bobby Heck are two different questions entirely. 

[Hornstros]

So would folks be happy with DeShields at 8?   Seems early, but if they like the guy that much....

If Heck & Co. chooses him at 8 then he must be that high on the Astros board.   At this point Heck & Co. have done such a good job with the last two drafts (although i realize not enough time has elapsed to REALLY judge the drafts), that i got faith in whomever they go with at #8 tonight.  I can't help but think of all the negative press the Astros org got whenever we drafted Castro at #10 in 2008....look how that's turned out.

Specifically with DeShields it seems like his stock has been really rising over the past couple of weeks.   Two or three weeks ago it seemed like the Astros were the only team that was onto him so early (w/ their #19 pick)....now word seems to be that if the Astros don't grab him at 8, he may not last until 19.  

[Russe]

This is exactly how I feel. From everything I've read, Sale SEEMS like the better pick at #8. We have a lot of toolsy fast guys a ala DeShields already in the system, and lack of plus-plus power guys like Sale...so I'd rather see us take Sale.

That said, Heck has done well enough that I think he's earned the benefit of the doubt...if he thinks DeShields is the better man, then DeShields it is.

[Navin R Johnson]

This is exactly how I feel. From everything I've read, Sale SEEMS like the better pick at #8. We have a lot of toolsy fast guys a ala DeShields already in the system, and lack of plus-plus power guys like Sale...so I'd rather see us take Sale.

That said, Heck has done well enough that I think he's earned the benefit of the doubt...if he thinks DeShields is the better man, then DeShields it is.

Pretty much how I feel.

Bagwell on the MLB Network right now.   

[hostros7]

Crasnick reporting first "surprise" of the draft will be Colon at #4.  Pomeranz is rumored to be dropping.

[Ron Brand]

Crasnick reporting first "surprise" of the draft will be Colon at #4.  Pomeranz is rumored to be dropping.

He dropped to #5, taken by the Indians.

[EasTexAstro]

Glad to see I am not the only one sitting here watching this.

[pots]

hmm Sale drops (the other one)

[astrosfan76]

Callis saying Chris Sale falling out of top 10.  Surprising, since he was supposed to be one of top 5.

[jaklewein]

OK...so I'm happy...either Sale will work for me.  At least one will be available.  Power bat or lefty with feel for a change...

[OregonStrosFan]

Glad to see I am not the only one sitting here watching this.

Watching it for now.  If you don't hear from me shortly after the 19th pick PLEASE call the paramedics. I'm concerned that listening to Selig for that long may very well put me in my grave...

[EasTexAstro]

Watching it for now.  If you don't hear from me shortly after the 19th pick PLEASE call the paramedics. I'm concerned that listening to Selig for that long may very well put me in my grave...

Ditto.

[moriartp]

Watching it for now.  If you don't hear from me shortly after the 19th pick PLEASE call the paramedics. I'm concerned that listening to Selig for that long may very well put me in my grave...

Me three.

[dirty steve]

mayo saying astros likely to take deshields at 8

[pots]

pick a Sale?

[EasTexAstro]

Sales still there. DD, Jr.?

[cougar]

mayo saying astros likely to take deshields at 8

We don't need no stinkin' power bats!  We got Koby! [/sarcasm]

I couldn't take listening to Selig again this year, but ESPN seems stuck or the Mets are taking forever.

[dirty steve]

callis also reporting deshields via twitter.

[dirty steve]

We don't need no stinkin' power bats!  We got Koby! [/sarcasm]

I couldn't take listening to Selig again this year, but ESPN seems stuck or the Mets are taking forever.

mets took matt harvey from UNC.

[cougar]

mets took matt harvey from UNC.

Thanks, ESPN's blog is the only thing they're running and I think the hamster powering our wireless router just passed out here at work.

[OregonStrosFan]

Astros #8: Delino at 2B.

[Ron Brand]

Here comes all the people bashing for a 'reach.'

[EasTexAstro]

DeShields.

Hmmm...

[cougar]

Here comes all the people bashing for a 'reach.'

I guess it's not a reach to me (completely uneducated), but I'd like someone who scares pitchers for a reason other than having to cover a drag bunt base hit.

[dirty steve]

everybody on the mlb set liked the pick, FWIW

[Ron Brand]

I guess it's not a reach to me (completely uneducated), but I'd like someone who scares pitchers for a reason other than having to cover a drag bunt base hit.

Houston's got a lot of holes to fill. A good 2B is a nice start for the farm.

[hostros7]

Maybe josh sale will still be there at 19?

[cougar]

Houston's got a lot of holes to fill. A good 2B is a nice start for the farm.

I suppose.  Can I still pray for a guy with pop at 19?

ETA: Be back hopefully in time for 19.  Have to go try and sell stuff.

[Tralfaz]

Good athlete, second base, I dig it.

ETA:  I like that Veck was pro-active, reaching for the guy he wanted. 

[Ron Brand]

I suppose.  Can I still pray for a guy with pop at 19?

Some surprises so far could mean more bats available later and if DeShields is as signable as they're saying, they could have more $$$ to go over slot at 19 or 33.

[dirty steve]

heck was no joke when he said he wanted to get strong up the middle.  C, SS and 2B in consecutive years.

[OregonStrosFan]

Per Callis tweet: "Hou had to take DeShields there. Tor, TexN TB all were on him before Astros pick again at 19 "

[Bench]

Here comes all the people bashing for a 'reach.'

heck and Wade and drayton all suck. Anyone who has run the most pathetic fantasy team knows that YOU DO NOT reach like this. I guess drayton didn't want to go the extra mile to sign a real pick. Just the typical old boys nepotism bushneck lackey. I am done with this team. They do not respect me enough for ny patronage!!!

[Ron Brand]

There goes Michael Choice.

[moriartp]

Maybe I'm just a ridiculous homer, but there's something about Bobby Heck making sure he gets the guy he wants that fills me with confidence.

[Ron Brand]

Maybe I'm just a ridiculous homer, but there's something about Bobby Heck making sure he gets the guy he wants that fills me with confidence.

Me too.

[chuck]

I haven't read anything that hugely praises his defense or, for that matter, his hitting. He seems to have a lot of speed for his build, and everyone talks about his "athleticism."

And his swing is fugly. But three or four teams were prepared to take him in the top 20. What the hell's the deal?

[chuck]

Bud Selig is like some sort of Twilight Zone Ed Sullivan.

[Ron Brand]

I haven't read anything that hugely praises his defense or, for that matter, his hitting. He seems to have a lot of speed for his build, and everyone talks about his "athleticism."

And his swing is fugly. But three or four teams were prepared to take him in the top 20. What the hell's the deal?

Beats me, but I'm trusting Bobby Heck.

[Navin R Johnson]

Will be interested to see what position they put him at.   

[EasTexAstro]

Bud Selig is like some sort of Twilight Zone Ed Sullivan.

I pictured a much less interesting Les Nessman.

[Ron Brand]

Bud Selig is like some sort of Twilight Zone Ed Sullivan.

I'm always amazed to see multimillionaires who have zero ability to project a good personal image. Selig stammers, coughs, slurs, has bad hair, slouches, clothes don't fit well and he has a whole lotta money.

[Alkie]

I'm always amazed to see multimillionaires who have zero ability to project a good personal image. Selig stammers, coughs, slurs, has bad hair, slouches, clothes don't fit well and he has a whole lotta money.

Isn't that fucking amazing?   I've often pondered the same fucking thing.   It gives me tremendous hope for my own future.

[OregonStrosFan]

DeShields scouting report from MLB Bonus Baby

Delino DeShields is an athletic outfielder from Woodward Academy in College Park, a southern suburb of Atlanta, Georgia. DeShields is well-known for being the son of the long-time Major Leaguer of the same name, but this DeShields is a prospect in his own right. At the plate, he projects to be a leadoff or number two hitter, though a lot depends on how his pitch recognition develops. He sprays the ball to all fields, though the amount of upper-level competition he’s faced is limited to summer experiences with his travel team, as his spring high school competition is not up to par. Despite the low level competition, he does project to be an above-average Major League hitter, hitting somewhere in the .280-.300 range in the long run. He does project for power better than his size indicates, as he squares up balls with a strong core, leading to average raw power grades. His best tool is the same tool that made his dad famous. He can flat-out run. He gets plus-plus grades for his running, and the most common grade he gets for the tool is an 80 on the 20-80 scouting scale. This helps him with his range in center field, though some scouts want to put him at second base to take advantage of his lateral quickness. Either way, he could project to be a plus defender. His biggest weakness defensively is the lack of a power arm, as it gets a below-average grade overall. That limits him to either center field or second base, and the scouting community is split over the final position he might play, though center field seems to be the consensus late in the scouting season. Due to his pedigree and upper-level tools, he could go as high as the end of the first round, and won’t last past the third despite a two-sport commitment to LSU for both football and baseball.

[Ron Brand]

Isn't that fucking amazing?   I've often pondered the same fucking thing.   It gives me tremendous hope for my own future.

I wish it was that easy too but so far I haven't been able to make it work.

[roadrunner]

I'd like to see Sale at 19

[Ron Brand]

I'd like to see Sale at 19

Either one of them.

[Ron Brand]

Well, Josh might still be around at 19...

[Hornstros]

Will be interested to see what position they put him at.   

Agreed.  Selig announced him as a 2B

[chuck]

I'd like to see Sale at 19

Or not.

[roadrunner]

oops I meant Josh

[Ebby Calvin]

What pick is it? You guys are more up-to-date than mlb.com and I'm stuck in a meeting. Thanks.

[Lurch]

heck and Wade and drayton all suck. Anyone who has run the most pathetic fantasy team knows that YOU DO NOT reach like this. I guess drayton didn't want to go the extra mile to sign a real pick. Just the typical old boys nepotism bushneck lackey. I am done with this team. They do not respect me enough for ny patronage!!!

See ya, Lastros!  I'll never buy another ticket again!  Can we trade Draton?  :-)  lol

[OregonStrosFan]

What pick is it? You guys are more up-to-date than mlb.com and I'm stuck in a meeting. Thanks.

14. Brewers — Dylan Covey, rhp, Maranatha HS, Pasadena, Calif. #mlbdraft

[chuck]

What pick is it? You guys are more up-to-date than mlb.com and I'm stuck in a meeting. Thanks.

The Rangers are on the clock at 15.

[EasTexAstro]

What pick is it? You guys are more up-to-date than mlb.com and I'm stuck in a meeting. Thanks.

Rangers at 15 on the clock.

[Ebby Calvin]

Thx, OSF and Chuck.

[OregonStrosFan]

Okay, so you've got Bagwell and umpteen other frachise icon-types at the draft tonight and yet Bud Selig is calling out the names?  Really?  [/marketingfail]

[Ebby Calvin]

...And ETA. Ill shut up now.

[EasTexAstro]

BTW, Called up Bonus Baby mock draft to check some picks....wow. Not really close.

I'm not trying to make fun of them, just watching how they fall with the surprises.

[OregonStrosFan]

15. Rangers — Jake Skole, of, Blessed Trinity HS, Roswell, Ga. #mlbdraft

[Ron Brand]

All of these surprises have left a lot of good bats on the board. Is it too much to hope for one to drop to 33 as well?

[EasTexAstro]

...And ETA. Ill shut up now.

BTW, I would like to nominate OSF for formal updates. He has done such a great job forever on the draft, and is still at it.

Thanks, OSF. Hope you can hang in there.

[Hornstros]

Okay, so you've got Bagwell and umpteen other frachise icon-types at the draft tonight and yet Bud Selig is calling out the names?  Really?  [/marketingfail]

I'm wondering if Bags might be reading pick #33.  Wouldn't surprise me if Selig only announces the first round

[OregonStrosFan]

Footer with pics and a BA scouting report on DeShields. LINK

WARNING: DO NOT LOOK PAST PICTURE #3.

[Ebby Calvin]

100 percent agree re: OSF's contributions. Top notch across the board.

[roadrunner]

OSF always pulls his weight for the farm teams, too.  I haven't been this up-to-date with the prospects this frequently since...ever.

[pots]

TB had interest in Sale...see if they take him

[pots]

Cox is somewhat interesting too

[roadrunner]

Huh...it's pronounced SAL AY.  I guess I shouldn't be surprised.  I still don't know how to pronounce Mier's name.

[EasTexAstro]

Cubs take Hayden Simpson. 6', 175# College player. Seems odd for a small RHP. From Magnolia AK....dated a nice set ti....girl from there....

[EasTexAstro]

Sale gone...ANA next.

[Navin R Johnson]

Crap, Sale to the Rays

[roadrunner]

There goes the other Sale.  And I've heard 4 different pronunciations now.

[Ron Brand]

You guys are right, OSF is The Man, consistently going above and beyond.

[jaklewein]

I'm hoping for Cowart...he wants to play field...switch hitter with pop.

[OregonStrosFan]

Thanks, OSF. Hope you can hang in there.

I'm back, as long as Selig doesn't put me in my grave...

17. Rays — Josh Sale, of, Bishop Blanchet HS, Seattle #mlbdraft

[Navin R Johnson]

Austin Wilson?  Zack Cox?  Stetson Allie? Kaleb Cowart?  Eibner?  Lots of good options left.

[OregonStrosFan]

You guys are right, OSF is The Man, consistently going above and beyond.

Thanks y'all.  Now about those weekend series game recaps I'm behind on....

[pots]

Gah, Cox last of the highly rated folks

[chuck]

I wish they would show more commercials.

[pots]

well top 10 anyways

[dirty steve]

cowart to the angels.

[EasTexAstro]

Astros back on the clock

[pots]

hmmm, Cox still alive.  wonder what Heck think of him

[OregonStrosFan]

18. Los AngelEEZ (Selig PR) of Anaheim: Caleb Cowart. Georgia HS drafted as 3B.

Good Guys on the clock.

[Lurch]

hmmm, Cox still alive.  wonder what Heck think of him

Pam isnt interested

[cougar]

Pam isnt interested

I'm sure she had a phase in college.

[chuck]

Pam isnt interested

Man, that was just dangling there waiting for someone to notice.

[jaklewein]

cowart to the angels.

Damnit!  That's my buddies' nephew.  He goes to ST with me every year...we've been dreaming about him as an astro for years.  Just pissed we didn't have the chance to draft him.

[pots]

Delino on the phone

[dirty steve]

deshields says he anticipates playing 2B in interview with MLB network.  

[OregonStrosFan]

Pam isnt interested

I warned you not to look past pic #3.... 

Delino on the phone now.  Thinks he'll play 2B. 

[EasTexAstro]

Delino interview:

Thinks he wil stick at 2nd. Dad helped him alot when he was around. not much more.....

[pots]

not a great interviewer

[OregonStrosFan]

19 Astros: Mike Foltynewicz, RHP.  Minooka Community HS, committed to UT.

[pots]

yikes, that's going to be the most misspelled name

[Ron Brand]

Well, that's a surprise.

[EasTexAstro]

yikes, that's going to be the most misspelled name

MF.

[dirty steve]

selig got that pronunciation right and he cant even say los angeles?

somebody fill me in on foltyniewicz

[roadrunner]

That name doesn't look familiar.  Did any mock have this guy going to the Astros?

[chuck]

Now Heck is just deliberately taunting Milo.

[Noe]

selig got that pronunciation right and he cant even say los angeles?

somebody fill me in on foltyniewicz

Callis says he's a potential power arm and the best HS pitcher in the Midwest.  Likes that the Astros don't care what people think, they're taking guys they want not guys that everyone thinks they should take.

[Navin R Johnson]

From BA:

Foltynewicz is far and away the best pitching prospect in the Upper Midwest. He opened eyes by sitting at 91-94 mph and touching 96 with his fastball at a preseason showcase in February, and he has shown similar velocity throughout the spring. With his 6-foot-4, 190-pound frame, strength and arm speed, it's easy to project him regularly throwing in the mid-90s down the road. He already has an advanced changeup for a high school pitcher, as it features good sink and could become a plus pitch. He doesn't consistently stay on top of his breaking pitches, though he was doing a better job later in the spring. He throws both a curveball and a slider, and he'd be best served by focusing on improving his slider. No Illinois high school pitcher has gone in the first round since the White Sox selected Kris Honel in 2001, but a team that believes Foltynewicz can refine a breaking b all could be tempted to pick him that high. He'll pitch at Texas if he doesn't turn pro.

[Hornstros]

That name doesn't look familiar.  Did any mock have this guy going to the Astros?

not that i recall.   somebody had the Astros making a splash at #19 and tkaing someboyd that nobody expected them to take....i think Foltynewicz qualifies.  

i hope one day we see a rotation with Dydalewicz and Foltynewicz

[OregonStrosFan]

Here comes all the people bashing for a 'reach.'

Per Callis via Twitter: "Foltynewicz gives Hou best HS arm in IL 2 yrs in row (Bushue last year). I like how Hou takes the guys it wants, bucks consensus. #mlbdraft"

[kevwun]

If he's got good control of his fastball, he sounds very similar to Lyles.

[astrosfan76]

That name doesn't look familiar.  Did any mock have this guy going to the Astros?

There were some that had the club popping him in the Supplemental.  I think MLBBonusBaby had him there at one point.  

[OregonStrosFan]

selig got that pronunciation right and he cant even say los angeles?

somebody fill me in on foltyniewicz

Will get some more scouting reports shortly.  Here is the MLB.com scouting report on him: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7604017

[cougar]

not that i recall.   somebody had the Astros making a splash at #19 and tkaing someboyd that nobody expected them to take....i think Foltynewicz qualifies.  

i hope one day we see a rotation with Dydalewicz and Foltynewicz

Hopefully Milo's well into retirement by then, because that may cause him to finally snap.  Or, he'll just call them "D-Wiz" and "F-Wiz".  50/50 chance.

[Ron Brand]

Astros are going to have a nice stockpile of arms in a couple of years.

[roadrunner]

The kid hasn't been an Astro for more than 10 minutes.  Let's let the BBGs rest for now.

[chuck]

I don't understand the 'I'm impressed that Houston's taking the guys it wants and bucking the consensus' sentiment. I mean, do people really think that Heck is informed in any way by the musings of a bunch of internet jackoffs?

[cougar]

I like how the only thing the ESPN live blog has said about the Astros draft was something along the lines of "Delino Sr. must be happy" after we drafted Junior.

ETA: And now a link that takes you too...  An analysis of Cowart to the Angels instead of Faultynewsies like they said it was.

[EasTexAstro]

Selig can say "THE Ohio State University," but would say The Woodlands for the 2nd pick.

Even though it had to say it on the card....


I know, picking on the retarded is not nice....

[dirty steve]

Selig can say "THE Ohio State University," but would say The Woodlands for the 2nd pick.

Even though it had to say it on the card....


I know, picking on the retarded is not nice....

he called it the "woodland hills HS."  just read it off the card.

[Ron Brand]

The world revolves around internet jackoffs. That's what my fortune cookie said.

[EasTexAstro]

he called it the "woodland hills HS."  just read it off the card.

Said Woodland Hills HS...from Woodlands, Texas..

[OregonStrosFan]

Foltynewicz scouting video: LINK

[OregonStrosFan]

MLB Bonus Baby scouting report: LINK

Mike Foltynewicz is a tall, projectable right-handed pitcher from Minooka Community High School in Minooka, Illinois, a far southwestern suburb about 50 miles outside of Chicago. Foltynewicz has really come on strong this spring, and it’s looking more and more like he’ll be a top prospect in short order. He seemed to get better and better every time scouts saw him, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him jump into the natural first round. He features an arsenal of multiple above-average pitches, and I see his ceiling as that of a true number two starter, capable of shutting down Major League offenses. His fastball is his best pitch, a true 92-94 mph offering that touches 96, and he has the frame to add even a tick or two more. His delivery is reminiscent of Tim Lincecum’s, though he doesn’t get the same extralong stride that Lincecum incorporates in his back-to-the-plate windup. He does get excellent late life on his fastball and has average command, making it a plus to plus-plus future pitch. He uses a pair of breaking balls in a curveball and slider, but his curveball is the better pitch. It’s an upper-70s pitch that has great power and late break, getting above-average future grades from scouts. His slider is an 82-84 mph pitch with some tilt, though it’s more of an average show-me offering than a Major League quality pitch. His changeup advanced more than his other offerings this spring, and it has received a few future plus grades due to excellent fade. With all this progress, “Folty” now projects as a supplemental first or second round arm, perhaps even as high as the natural first round as I said above. A University of Texas commitment shouldn’t be a factor if his name gets called that high.

[Noe]

Foltynewicz scouting video: LINK

He throws eggszactly like Tim Redding (drops his arm a bit).

[OregonStrosFan]

Updates per BA via Twitter

20. Red Sox — Kolbrin Vitek, 2b, Ball State
21. Twins — Alex Wimmers, rhp, Ohio State
22. Rangers — Kellin Deglan, c, R.E. Mountain SS, Langley, B.C
23. Marlins — Christian Yelich, of, Westlake HS, Westlake Village, Calif.

[Matt]

He throws eggszactly like Tim Redding (drops his arm a bit).

Oh god, did you have to say that?

[dirty steve]

Said Woodland Hills HS...from Woodlands, Texas..

my fault.  i figured the guy was from -the- Woodlands HS in the Woodlands, TX and that selig butchered even that.

[Noe]

Oh god, did you have to say that?

Sorry, besides, Redding's problem was what was lacking between the ears, not what was lacking in the right arm.

[Matt]

Sorry, besides, Redding's problem was what was lacking between the ears, not what was lacking in the right arm.

Oh definitely true but it just conjures up memories of the frustration it was watching him pitch.

[pots]

Cox to cards.

That Reggie Gordon guy still hanging around for #33 maybe?

[OregonStrosFan]

BA Q&A with Foltynewicz: LINK

[OregonStrosFan]

Thank goodness Astros have the first pick in the supplemental round.  Don't think I can handle much more... [/BudSeligisKILLINGme]

[Lurch]

Cox to cards.

They'll know how to milk him best.

[BudGirl]

Thank goodness Astros have the first pick in the supplemental round.  Don't think I can handle much more... [/BudSeligisKILLINGme]

Suck it up!!  You can do it.

[OregonStrosFan]

Callis best available:

Castellanos
Stetson Allie
Justin O'Conner
Brandon Workman

Mayo:

Bryce Brentz

[OregonStrosFan]

24. Giants — Gary Brown, of, Cal State Fullerton
25. Cardinals — Zack Cox, 3b, Arkansas
26. Rockies — Kyle Parker, of, Clemson
27. Phillies - Jesse Biddle Germantown Friends HS (local kid)

[Lurch]

Allie looks impressive

[OregonStrosFan]

Suck it up!!  You can do it.

Just in case I don't make it, the local emergency number here in Portland is 911...

[OregonStrosFan]

Dodgers take McKinney TX HS pitcher Zach Lee at #28.  Has a scholarship to play QB (and baseball as well, I think) at LSU.

[jaklewein]

Ok, so who I'm I rooting to stay off the board?

[hostros7]

Dodgers take McKinney TX HS pitcher Zach Lee at #28.  Has a scholarship to play QB (and baseball as well, I think) at LSU.

Seems like LSU had commitments from several guys mentioned as going in the first couple rounds.  Could be a rough couple days for Tiger baseball fans.

[Hornstros]

wow...that's starting to get really fucking annoying the way Selig pronounces 'Los Angeles'.   Unfortunate that there's two Los Angeles teams on a night like this and that one of them has so many picks

[Lurch]

Seems like LSU had commitments from several guys mentioned as going in the first couple rounds.  Could be a rough couple days for Tiger baseball fans.

How about for TCU?

[OregonStrosFan]

Seems like LSU had commitments from several guys mentioned as going in the first couple rounds.  Could be a rough couple days for Tiger baseball fans.

Not many thinking the Dodgers will be able to sign him.  Supposedly a football first guy...

[OregonStrosFan]

Ok, so who I'm I rooting to stay off the board?

LegsofEggs? Phillip?  Those would be my top two choices for folks I'm rooting to stay off the board...

[OregonStrosFan]

29. Angels — Cam Bedrosian, rhp, East Coweta HS, Sharpsburg, Ga
30. Angels - Chevez Clarke, OF Marietta High School, GA

[BudGirl]

LegsofEggs? Phillip?  Those would be my top two choices for folks I hope stay off the board...

I was trying to think of someone like them.  But I fortunately have forgotten about them, until now.

[OregonStrosFan]

31. Rays - Justin O'Connor - C, Cowan HS

Yankmees up next.  Then Heck & Co!

[roadrunner]

Wilson and Allie are still available, yes?

[hostros7]

Wilson and Allie are still available, yes?

Looks like it

[Ron Brand]

I really enjoyed that LoE comment.

[OregonStrosFan]

Wilson and Allie are still available, yes?

Austin Wilson? Yes.  Thought [WAG] that Allie would go to the Yankees, but was wrong (big surprise..).

32. Yankees - Cito Culver, ss, Irondequoit HS, Rochester, N.Y.

[pots]

Should have $ for an expensive sign...

Edit, given the rumored cash allowance

[Navin R Johnson]

Going by BA's numbers, the Astros have taken #55 Delino Deshields, #44 Mike Foltynewicz,  #33 is Chad Bettis....

[chuck]

OK, now I KNOW they're fucking with Milo.

[OregonStrosFan]

Bagwell at the podium (bricks the name)...

And with the 33rd overall pick the Astros take Michael Kvansnicka. C/3B. Switch hitter from Minnesota. 

[GreatBagwellsBeard]

Bagwell at the podium (bricks the name)...

And with the 33rd overall pick the Astros take Michael Kvansnicka. C/3B. Switch hitter from Minnesota. 

His name had come up some last week for the #19 pick, no?

[Alkie]

SWEET!!

I don't have the sound up.  Did we just draft Jeff Bagwell??

[Alkie]

OK, now I KNOW they're fucking with Milo.

Right, because that's a real challenge.

[OregonStrosFan]

His name had come up some last week for the #19 pick, no?

Yep.

[At Ease]

You can actually watch this guy play tonight, as Minnesota is playing Fullerton in the regional final tonight on ESPNU.

[chuck]

They showed the Astros' war room as their final selection of the day was being made and as the footage was ending you could see a celebratory Pam Gardner chest bump Ricky Bennett.

[hostros7]

You can actually watch this guy play tonight, as Minnesota is playing Fullerton in the regional final tonight on ESPNU.

I like that this probably means the Stros scouts liked him more than Cox. 

[OregonStrosFan]

MLB Bonus Baby scouting report on Kvasnicka: LINK

[OregonStrosFan]

Finishing up the first round supplemental picks:

50. Cardinals — Tyrell Jenkins, rhp, Henderson (Texas) HS
49. Rangers — Mike Olt, 3b, Connecticut
48. Tigers — Chance Ruffin, rhp, Texas
47. Rockies — Peter Tago, rhp, Dana Hills HS, Dana Point, Calif.
46. Cardinals — Seth Blair, rhp, Arizona State
45. Rangers — Luke Jackson, rhp, Calvary Christian Academy, Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
44. Tigers — Nick Castellanos, 3b, Archbishop McCarthy HS, Southwest Ranches, Fla.
43. Mariners — Taijuan Walker, rhp, Yucaipa (Calif.) HS
42. Rays — Drew Vettleson, of, Central Kitsap HS, Silverdale, Wash.
41. Blue Jays — Asher Wojciechowski, rhp, The Citadel
40. Angels — Ryan Bolden, of, Madison (Miss.) Central HS
39. Red Sox — Anthony Ranaudo, rhp, Louisiana State
38. Blue Jays — Noah Syndergaard, rhp, Legacy HS, Mansfield, Texas
37. Angels — Taylor Lindsey, ss, Desert Mountain HS, Scottsdale, Ariz.
36. Red Sox — Bryce Brentz, of, Middle Tennessee State
35. Braves — Matt Lipka, ss, McKinney (Texas) HS
34. Blue Jays — Aaron Sanchez, rhp, Barstow (Calif.) HS

[OregonStrosFan]

PNR Scouting report on Kvasnicka: LINK

[Navin R Johnson]

Kvasnicka smokes a RBI double off the wall in his first AB tonight.

[Navin R Johnson]

You can watch the game online at

http://www.justin.tv/nippyheid1

Ensberg is doing the color commentary.

[jbm]

I didn't study the Internet mock drafts real closely, but it appears the rankings of Internet scouts and major league clubs vary widely. Is it always this way, or is this not normal? 

Btw, based only on the few pitches shown on MLB, the Illinois kid looks real smooth. Committed to Texas?  He's one I hope Augie can't reel in.   

[OregonStrosFan]

Edited to remove traces of whining about Day 1 of the draft...

[Tralfaz]

And we shall all suffer for that.  Excellent work OSF, thank you.

[Rebel Jew]

Here comes all the people bashing for a 'reach.'

"I CAN'T BELIEVE the (team I follow) drafted (player I hadn't heard of and/or player the sports media didn't rate very highly) at this pick, when (player I rated high based on my amateur stat analysis, position the sports media seemed to rate him, and/or superficial similarity to my favorite players) was available.  They could have drafted (player I rated high based on my amateur stat analysis, position the sports media seemed to rate him, and/or superficial similarity to my favorite players) and still gotten (player I hadn't heard of and/or player the sports media didn't rate very highly) in the next round."

If you're a media member, it's even simpler:

"Wow, what a reach by the (small market team and/or team without an executive or coach whose cock the media frequently strokes) to draft (pick I disagree with) when (pick I agree with) was still on the board.  This team desperately needed (my half-assed assessment of the team's needs based on last year's finish) but instead they went with another (something that doesn't fit in with my half-assed assessment of the team's needs based on last year's finish)."

[OregonStrosFan]

Keith Law's Top 100:  Insider LINK

Player's drafted not in Law's Top 100

15. Rangers - Jake Skole
16. Cubs - Hayden Simpson
26. Rockies - Kyle Parker
32. Yankees - Cito Culver
38. Blue Jays - Noah Syndergaard
40. Angels - Ryan Bolden
43. Mariners - Taijuan Walker
49. Rangers - Mike Olt

Astros draftee ranks in Law's Top 100

8th pick: Delino DeShields Jr. - Law Rank: 30
19th pick: Mike Foltyniewicz - Law Rank: 44
33rd pick: Michael Kvasnicka - Law Rank: 49

[OregonStrosFan]

Day 2 Best Available

LAW top 100 undrafted (LAW Top 100) 17. Brandon Workman - RHP 21. James Paxton - LHP 22. Austin Wilson - OF 24. Austin Wates - OF 25. AJ Cole - RHP 27. Stetson Allie - RHP 29. Kris Bryant - SS/3B 35. Brett Eibner - RHP / CF 36. Jacob Petrika - RHP 37. Mel Rojas, Jr. - OF 38. Kevin Gausman - RHP 39. Marcus Littlewood - SS 40. Derek Dietrich - SS 41. Micah Gibbs - C 43. Yordy Cabrera - SS/RHP 46. Deandre Smelter - RHP 48. Jake Hernandez - C 50. Jesse Hahn - RHP 51. Justin Grimm - RHP 56. Kevin Munson - RHP 57. Kevin Plutka - RHP 58. Dave Filak - RHP 59. Jedd Gyorko - 2B 60. AJ Vanegas - RHP 61. Rob Rasmussen - LHP 62. Ryne Stanek - RHP 63. Robert Brantley - C 64. Chad Bettis - RHP 66. Cody Buckel - RHP 67. Jordan Swaggerty - RHP 68. Tyler Thornburg - RHP 69. Mike Kickham - LHP 70. Willie Swanner - C 72. Dan Klien - RHP 73. Griffin Murphy - LHP 74. Dixon Anderson - RHP 75. Ty Linton - OF 77. Jacoby Jones - SS/RHP 78. Jason Adam - RHP 79. Don Roach - RHP 80. Chris Hawkins - SS 81. Kellen Sweeney - OF 82. Leon Landry - OF 83. Chad Lewis - 3B 84. Jordan Shipers - LHP 85. Robbie Aviles - RHP 86. Drw Cisco - RHP 88. Garin Cecchini - IF 89. Smmy Solis - LHP 91. Levon Washington - OF 92. Sam Dyson - RHP 93. Scott Frazier - RHP 94. Tommy Kahnle - LHP 95. Gabriel Encines - RHP 96. Seth Rosin - RHP 97. Niko Goodrum - SS 98. Addison Reed - RHP 100. Drew Robinson - IF/OF

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BonusBaby top 100 undrafted (MLBBB Best Available list) 14. Stetson Allie, RHP 19. Brandon Workman, RHP 21. Brett Eibner, RHP/OF 23. A.J. Cole, RHP 25. Austin Wilson, OF 27. Jesse Hahn, RHP 30. Chad Bettis, RHP 31. Yordy Cabrera, SS 38. James Paxton, LHP 40. Jedd Gyorko, SS 41. Ryan LaMarre, OF 43. Austin Wates, OF 44. Dan Klein, RHP 45. Reggie Golden, OF 46. Jarrett Parker, OF 47. Sammy Solis, LHP 49. Ryne Stanek, RHP 51. Kevin Gausman, RHP 53. Jacob Petricka, RHP 54. Hunter Morris, 1B 55. Micah Gibbs, C 57. Robbie Aviles, RHP 59. A.J. Vanegas, RHP 61. Derek Dietrich, SS 62. Joe Leonard, 3B 63. Griffin Murphy, LHP 65. Garin Cecchini, SS 66. Kris Bryant, 3B 67. Jordan Swagerty, RHP 68. Todd Cunningham, OF 70. Burch Smith, RHP 71. Kyle Blair, RHP 72. Dave Filak, RHP 73. Tony Wolters, SS 74. DeAndre Smelter, RHP 75. Addison Reed, RHP 76. LeVon Washington, OF 77. Justin Grimm, RHP 78. Aaron Shipman, OF 79. Marcus Knecht, OF 81. Scott Frazier, RHP 82. Leon Landry, OF 84. Sam Dyson, RHP 85. Mel Rojas Jr., OF 86. Rob Rasmussen, LHP 88. Robby Rowland, RHP 89. Rob Segedin, 3B 90. Jason Adam, RHP 91. Drew Cisco, RHP 92. Gauntlett Eldemire 93. Austin Wood, RHP 94. Drew Smyly, LHP 95. Perci Garner, RHP 96. Marcus Littlewood, SS 97. Kevin Munson, RHP 98. Kevin Chapman, LHP 99. Stefan Sabol, C 100. Zach Cates, RHP

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BA top 50 undrafted BA's Updated top 50 15. Stetson Allie, rhp 20. Brandon Workman, rhp 23. Brett Eibner, rhp/of 25. A.J. Cole, rhp 28. Austin Wilson, of 31. Ryan LaMarre, of 33. Chad Bettis, rhp 35. Yordy Cabrera, ss/rhp 37. Jedd Gyorko, ss 38. Ryne Stanek, rhp, 45. A.J. Vanegas, rhp 46. Garin Cecchini, 3b 47. James Paxton, lhp 48. Sammy Solis, lhp 49. Jarrett Parker, of 50. Jesse Hahn, rhp

[austro]

Kvasnicka smokes a RBI double off the wall in his first AB tonight.

Looked like he's ready to contribute as an Astro on the basepaths, too.

[MikeyBoy]

A little late to the party, but just wanted to add my thanks to OSF. Excellent work, not only during the draft, but the days leading up to, as well.

[matadorph]

Sounds like Augie's recruit won't be playing at the Disch next year.

Though there is certain to be extensive contract negotiations with the Astros at present, all Foltynewicz knows is that it's time for him to get ready for the professional life.

"There's not much to think about. I think the signing bonus in that range has been somewhere around a mil or higher, but that has to be negotiated," he said.

And what about the scholarship offer to Texas?

"I don't want to close the door on anything, but I'll probably take my chances and play pro ball," Foltynewicz said. "I want to get started playing as soon as I can."

LINK

[jbm]

Thanks for the link. That's good news.

[matadorph]

Damn, the Pirates grabbed Stetson Allie with the second pick. Sammy Solis went to the Nats to open day two.

[matadorph]

And there goes Eibner to the Royals. Man, they're drafting faster than my fantasy football league.

[matadorph]

Workman to the Red Sox.

Astros on the clock.

[matadorph]

Vincent Velasquez, RHP from California

[matadorph]

From BA blog earlier this year:

In front of approximately 200 scouts, Velasquez enjoyed a career-altering performance. Cautious in his injury recovery, Velasquez had not pitched since December 2008.  After his outing Saturday, the mound figures to be his permanent residence. The slender and highly projectable righty struck out and more impressively overwhelmed all four batters he faced.
 
Using a loose, easy throwing motion, Velasquez fired a lively 91-93 mph fastball, which he used to paint the outside corner or to jam a hitter inside. He liberally sprinkled in an 82-84 mph drop-dead changeup, which was well placed and cleverly concealed.  Velasquez best pitch may be his 74 mph curve, which veered out toward the third-base dugout and then swerved sharply down and away to his glove side.
 
Stunned silence was pervasive after Velasquez brief stint. Several nearby heads nodded in agreement as I broke the brief quiet by commenting: "That'll be the end of his career as an infielder."

LINK
 

[moriartp]

Vincent Velasquez, RHP from California

Footer: Once the Red Sox picked right before them, there was definitely elation in the room when they saw Valesquez was going to be available.

[matadorph]

Footer: Once the Red Sox picked right before them, there was definitely elation in the room when they saw Valesquez was going to be available.

Baseball Beginnings report

The first thing you would notice about Velasquez is his body. He’s tall and athletic, rangy, with plenty of physical projection. His best tools, for me, are his arm and his glove. Velasquez can flat out throw the baseball. It’s hard to find a big arm on a position player – trust me, I’ve looked.

I’ve seen Velasquez play long toss standing in left field and throwing to the right field line. I’m not talking about max-effort heaves here, I mean, nice and loose and easy arm action. With a frame like this, a future on the mound cannot be ruled out, where he could be a beast.

[chuck]

If someone can do better than I at digging up video of the kid pitching that would be just outSTANDing.

[matadorph]

Third round pick is Austin Wates, CF from Va Tech.

[matadorph]

If someone can do better than I at digging up video of the kid pitching that would be just outSTANDing.

MLB draft video

[accougars]

143. Bobby Doran, rhp
Texas Tech
Pitching in the shadow of Chad Bettis at Texas Tech, Doran has been the Red Raiders' best starting pitcher this spring. After going winless in the first half of the season, he won five of his next six starts, highlighted by a 16-strikeout effort against Missouri. His stuff has kicked up a notch, matching what he showed last summer when he ranked as the top pitching prospect in the Jayhawk League. Not only is he pitching at 90-92 mph and topping out at 94, but he's also commanding his fastball to both sides of the plate. He also has a hard 77-78 mph curveball with late break, as well as a serviceable changeup. He's athletic for a 6-foot-6, 240-pounder, and his arm works easily, enabling him to throw strikes. He spent the first two years of his college career at Seward County (Kan.) CC, where the Pirates drafted him in the 36th round last year. He'll get picked more than 30 rounds earlier this time around.

[OregonStrosFan]

If someone can do better than I at digging up video of the kid pitching that would be just outSTANDing.

MLB scouting video: LINK

[OregonStrosFan]

Astros Round 5 (#153): Ben Heath, C, Penn State

[accougars]

Astros Round 5 (#153): Ben Heath, C, Penn State

Catcher with Power

http://theaquilareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2163:penn-states-catcher-ben-heath-ready-for-mlb-draft&catid=49:people&Itemid=132

[chuck]

Thanks, guys. Man, he's built like a pitcher, isn't he? Very loose delivery. He looks good now but with that frame I can imagine him getting a LOT better.

[OregonStrosFan]

Astros round 6 (#183) Adam Plutko, RHP

[OregonStrosFan]

Astros round 6 (#183) Adam Plutko, RHP

Plutko: 6'3" 180" RHP from Glendora HS, CA

Brief summary from Andy Seiler's draft notebook: Once viewed as a top 50 pick, but 'lost his feel' for his breaking stuff.  Will need well over 6th round money to sign him away from the UCLA commitment. 

[OregonStrosFan]

Round 7: Astros select Puerto Rican catcher Roberto Pena, son of former Astros backup infielder Bert Pena. (From Levine via Twitter)

[accougars]

Roberto Pena in the 7th.

He appears to be a signable top notch defender who will need some work with the bat.

http://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=4757

[OregonStrosFan]

Astros rd. 8 (#243): Jake Buchanan, RHP, 6' 220 lbs, North Carolina State U.

[accougars]

Astros rd. 8 (#243): Jake Buchanan, RHP, 6' 220 lbs, North Carolina State U.

From BA:

Jake Buchanan, who was outstanding in the Cape Cod League last summer, going 3-1, 0.84 with just six walks in 43 innings. He's a pitchability righthander and doesn't have a great pro body at 6 feet, 221 pounds. He commands his fastball well at average velocity, and he ran it up to 93 mph against Georgia Tech in a heavily scouted start against Deck McGuire.

[OregonStrosFan]

Astros rd. 9 (#273): Thomas Shirley, LHP 6'5" JR Xavier

[accougars]

Astros rd. 9 (#273): Thomas Shirley, LHP 6'5" JR Xavier

Also from BA:

Tommy Shirley went 2-7, 7.60 in his first two seasons before emerging this spring as an intriguing lefthander in a draft short on quality southpaws. He throws a heavy 88-91 mph fastball that tops out at 93, using his 6-foot-5, 220-pound frame to leverage his heater down in the zone. He works both sides of the plate with his fastball and isn't afraid to challenge righthanders on the inner half. He has a rough finish to his delivery, landing on a stiff front leg, which costs him feel for his secondary pitches. He's trying to figure out a slider but is a one-pitch pitcher for now. His size and arm strength could get him into the first 10 rounds.

[OregonStrosFan]

Also from BA:

Tommy Shirley went 2-7, 7.60 in his first two seasons before emerging this spring as an intriguing lefthander in a draft short on quality southpaws. He throws a heavy 88-91 mph fastball that tops out at 93, using his 6-foot-5, 220-pound frame to leverage his heater down in the zone. He works both sides of the plate with his fastball and isn't afraid to challenge righthanders on the inner half. He has a rough finish to his delivery, landing on a stiff front leg, which costs him feel for his secondary pitches. He's trying to figure out a slider but is a one-pitch pitcher for now. His size and arm strength could get him into the first 10 rounds.

I like this.  I throw out the softballs and you do the heavy lifting.  Awesome!  [Very much appreciate the info BTW!]

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd 10 (#303): Evan Grills, 6'04" LHP, 06.13.1992 

[moriartp]

Rd 10 (#303): Evan Grills, 6'04" LHP, 06.13.1992 

BA: Teams that are hung up on velocity might pass on lefthander Evan Grills, and they'd miss a pitcher who makes up for his average velocity with savvy and a track record of winning. Grills has been pitching with Canada's national teams since he was 14 and thrives in big situations. He throws his fastball in the 87-89 mph range and flashes 90s, though he's touched higher in the past. He mixes in a two-seamer with good life, an average curveball, a below-average slider and a changeup. Grills has a tall, loose and athletic body. His delivery isn't picture-perfect, and he sometimes falls off the mound a la Mitch Williams. He still throws all his pitches for strikes, attacks hitters and breaks a lot of bats. He's committed to San Jacinto (Texas) JC.

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd 10 (#303): Evan Grills, 6'04" LHP, 06.13.1992

Via Seiler at MLB Bonus Baby (paraphrased): Was widely considered the best Canadian prospect available in the draft, but had a rough spring and had shoulder issues late in the summer.  Could be a mid-rotation started in time.

Speaking of Seiler, he put together a massive prospect guide for this draft and is selling it in PDF format at MLBBonusBaby.com.  Upwards of 750 prospects for $9.95.  Obviously not a ton of info on each prospect (usually 1/2 to 3/4 a page), but more info that I can find on a lot of these folks.  Not a bad deal at all for $9.95 (and given the amount of work he did on this thing, I don't feel 'right' about cutting and pasting everything, but now that I've given him a plug will continue to paraphrase bits of his info...).  

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd 11, #333: Kyle Redinger, 3B, Cedar Crest HS, PA

[accougars]

Rd 10 (#303): Evan Grills, 6'04" LHP, 06.13.1992 

From BA while back, so there could be some more velocity and additional projection:

As a member of the Canadian Junior National Team, Grills has been playing against advanced competition since he was 14 years old. Grills pitches at 88-91 mph with an above-average curveball and a deceptive changeup. He's very composed with great pitchability and knows how to win

[accougars]

Rd 11, #333: Kyle Redinger, 3B, Cedar Crest HS, PA

Third baseman Kyle Redinger, a Penn State signee, has a lanky 6-foot-3, 190-pound frame with plenty of power potential and athleticism, but scouts agreed that he needs to develop his overall game, which is raw. He could also help the Nittany Lions on the mound.

[accougars]

Via Seiler at MLB Bonus Baby (paraphrased): Was widely considered the best Canadian prospect available in the draft, but had a rough spring and had shoulder issues late in the summer.  Could be a mid-rotation started in time.

Speaking of Seiler, he put together a massive prospect guide for this draft and is selling it in PDF format at MLBBonusBaby.com.  Upwards of 750 prospects for $9.95.  Obviously not a ton of info on each prospect (usually 1/2 to 3/4 a page), but more info that I can find on a lot of these folks.  Not a bad deal at all for $9.95 (and given the amount of work he did on this thing, I don't feel 'right' about cutting and pasting everything, but now that I've given him a plug will continue to paraphrase bits of his info...).  

I pay no fees for any scripts, so everything I am posting is free. Though, I think BA may be having a software glitch!

[accougars]

Third baseman Kyle Redinger, a Penn State signee, has a lanky 6-foot-3, 190-pound frame with plenty of power potential and athleticism, but scouts agreed that he needs to develop his overall game, which is raw. He could also help the Nittany Lions on the mound.

By the way, this signs like a guy you may have to go over slot for. In addition, I feel that this is the area of the draft that getting more "signable" guys early on could allow you to do some damage on guys who have slipped a little due to signability.

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd 12, #363 RHP James Robinson, SR Georgia Tech

[accougars]

Rd 12, #363 RHP James Robinson, SR Georgia Tech

I believe his real name may be Andrew Robinson

From BA:

Andrew Robinson, who served as Tech's closer when Jacob was out. He was 4-0, 2.45 with seven saves, though he had a .261 opponent average. His 90-92 mph fastball and slider have been sharper this season. He also has a decent changeup and has proven resilient, working twice on weekends if needed. He should get pick in the 10th-20th round.

[OregonStrosFan]

RD 13, #393: Davis Duran, 2B, JR, Oklahoma State.

[accougars]

RD 13, #393: Davis Duran, 2B, JR, Oklahoma State.

From some random blog (It is getting a little bit more difficult afs we near 400 picks):

Davis Duren, Oklahoma State - I haven't seen anyone talking about Duren, and that surprises me a little bit. He has good speed, and a developing bat that doesn't show much power, but a knack for contact. That's a skillset that plays well in the middle infield.

[OregonStrosFan]

I believe his real name may be Andrew Robinson

Per the ValleyCat live draft chat: His full name is James Andrew Robinson

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd 14, #423:  CF Jordan Scott, Riverside HS, South Carolina.

[Filo]

What the Bobby Heck is the front office doing with this draft?  Thanks Drayton, way to refill the system with some more sorry white prospects.  Wake me up when there's new ownership.

[BudGirl]

I hope Drayton never sells the team.

[OregonStrosFan]

I hope Drayton never sells the team.

On a side note, I knew I was missing one other poster in my LOE, Philip retort yesterday... 

[BudGirl]

On a side note, I knew I was missing one other poster in my LOE, Philip retort yesterday... 

It's okay to have forgotten him. 

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd 15, #453 Jamaine Cotton, RHP, Western Oklahoma State, J2

[astrosfan76]

Cards are sparing no expenses this year:  Cox and Austin Wilson could be looking for $10M combined.  I read before the draft about Cox's agent throwing around Pedro Alvarez as a contract target ($6M+ MLB-deal) and Wilson has a high target to keep him away from Stanford.  We'll see if they sign them both, or if Wilson was a "Why not?" pick, but that's some coin.

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd. 16, #483, Christopher Wallace, C, SR. U of H. 

Ton of catcher picks in this years draft...

[BudGirl]

Rd. 16, #483, Christopher Wallace, C, SR. U of H. 

Ton of catcher picks in this years draft...

Wally.  He also played some 1b.

[OregonStrosFan]

Cards are sparing no expenses this year:  Cox and Austin Wilson could be looking for $10M combined.  I read before the draft about Cox's agent throwing around Pedro Alvarez as a contract target ($6M+ MLB-deal) and Wilson has a high target to keep him away from Stanford.  We'll see if they sign them both, or if Wilson was a "Why not?" pick, but that's some coin.

Was wondering when someone would pull the 'why not' pick on Wilson.  As long as he doesn't sign, glad it was the Cardinals (otherwise will be sick to my stomach about it...).  On that note, I sure hope Tyrell Jenkins decides to play QB at Baylor instead of taking #50 overall money from the Cards (would love to see him at Baylor, but really just hope he screws the Jakes!). 

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd 17, #513. 3B Tyler Burnett. JR, Middle Tennessee State.  MLB.com scouting video

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd. 18, #543 R/R CF (Footer tweeting 2B) Joshua Magee. Hoover HS, Hoover Alabama.

[austro]

Rd. 18, #543 R/R CF (Footer tweeting 2B) Joshua Magee. Hoover HS, Hoover Alabama.

Isn't Hoover the football powerhouse?

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd. 19, #573: R/R, SS, Jacoby Jones, Richton HS (Miss)

MLB.com scouting report and video.

The MLB scouting report has him as a fairly highly touted prospect. 

[domedogs]

I really really like that pick.  May be an over slot guy, but I hope they make that one happen.  I was hoping they would take him in the 4th, but getting him this late may be a blessing.

[At Ease]

Jones has been quoted along the lines of saying he's going to LSU no matter what happens in the draft.

[OregonStrosFan]

Seiler sees Jones as a 2nd to (at worst) a 5th round talent, but his LSU scholarship (and Boras Co. representation) could make him hard to sign in that range...

[OregonStrosFan]

Jones has been quoted along the lines of saying he's going to LSU no matter what happens in the draft.

If that happens, I'm blaming Mr. Happy...

[domedogs]

His coach has been quoted as saying he was under the impression that the Astros, as well as a couple other teams, would be willing to go over slot for him (via Astros County).

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd. 20, #603: R/R CF Daniel Adamson Jacksonville State U. SR

[OregonStrosFan]

His coach has been quoted as saying he was under the impression that the Astros, as well as a couple other teams, would be willing to go over slot for him (via Astros County).

Here is the Astros County link.  Good info on him!  [BTW, for those of you not aware, Astros County has excellent draft info]

[domedogs]

It sounds like $1.5 Mil is the number on Jones : http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/article/20100606/SPORTS/100605007

[BudGirl]

This is going to be some kind of draft recap someone is going to be writing.  I hope they have started on it already.

[OregonStrosFan]

This is going to be some kind of draft recap someone is going to be writing.  I hope they have started on it already.

Weekend, ma'am, weekend...  Am going to be working on something new this year (in addition to Draftees and Status).  Still behind on previous SnS commitments as it is...

[BudGirl]

Weekend, ma'am, weekend...  Am going to be working on something new this year (in addition to Draftees and Status).  Still behind on previous SnS commitments as it is...

didn't notice

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd. 21, #633: R/R RHP Aaron Blair, Spring Valley HS Nevada. 

[Navin R Johnson]

Here is a great story on Chris Wallace, who almost had his career ended via the bean ball.   Great kid and really good family.   http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6365657.html

[Bench]

On a side note, I knew I was missing one other poster in my LOE, Philip retort yesterday... 

Entirely forgetabble.

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd.22, #663: R/R C Zachary Dyggert Ball State, SR. MLB.com scouting video LINK

[OregonStrosFan]

Entirely forgetabble.

In retrospect, not sure that I didn't include him when I said LOE...

[Bench]

Rd. 19, #573: R/R, SS, Jacoby Jones, Richton HS (Miss)

Let me guess, blazing speed but bad hands?

What? Oh.  Wrong Jacoby Jones.

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd. 23, #693: L/L RF Adam Bailey, SR, Nebraska. MLB.com scouting video.  LINK

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd. 24, #723 L/L LHP Adam Champion, SR Univ. Ark - Little Rock. 

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd. 25, #753: R/R, RHP, Rodney Quintero, J1, Chipola JC, FL. MLB.com scouting video LINK

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd. 26, #783: L/L, LHP, Alexander Sogard, SR, North Carolina St. Uni.

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd. 27, #813: R/R, SS Jack Healey, SR, Youngstown St U.

[OregonStrosFan]

Rd. 28, #843: R/R, RHP, Jason Chowning, U Oklahoma, SR
Rd. 29, #873: L/L, CF, Broughan Jantz, Nevada Union HS, CF
Rd. 30, #903: L/L, RF, Kellen Kiilsgaard, JR, Stanford

Draft day 2 has been completed.

[OregonStrosFan]

McTaggart with a solid recap of the Astros day 2 draftees. LINK (includes scouts names)

[Duman]

Isn't Hoover the football powerhouse?

Yep, it is a sports powerhouse.  They have a good football, baseball, wrestling, etc.... One of the best school systems in Alabama.  Well funded and good academics as well. 

My wife taught in the system for 6 years, enjoyed her time there.

[OregonStrosFan]

Levine with some commentary from Heck regarding their pick of JaCoby Jones in the 19th round.  LINK

"He was just staring at us long enough on there, and if someone wanted to go through the summer with him, I wanted it to be us," assistant general manager and scouting director Bobby Heck said. "If he changed his demands or his commitment to LSU, I thought it would be wise for us to have a chance to talk to him about it."

[OregonStrosFan]

Draftees from Keith Law's Top 100 and Baseball America's Top 200 (or top 50 before the draft):

RD 1, #8, Delino DeShields Jr. ::   Law Rank = 30  /   BA Rank = 44 (in the latest top 50, orig = 55 in prev. top 200)
RD 1, #19, Mike Foltyniewicz ::    Law Rank = 44  /   BA Rank = 42 (in the latest top 50, orig = 44 in prev. top 200)
RD 1S, #33, Michael Kvasnicka :: Law Rank = 49  /   BA Rank = 63
rd 3, #90, Austin Wates ::          Law Rank = 24  /   BA Rank = 64
RD 4, #123, Robert Doran ::        Law Rank = n/a /   BA Rank = 143
RD 6, #183, Adam Plutko ::         Law Rank = 57  /   BA Rank = 131
RD 19, #573, Jacoby Jones ::      Law Rank = 77  /   BA Rank = 166


By under Law's prospect rankings the Astros have drafted 2- 1st RD players, 2- 1st Supp RD players, and 2- 2nd RD players.

Under BA's prospect rankings the Astros have drafted 2- 1st Supp RD players, 2- 2nd RD players, 2- 4th RD players, and 1- 5th RD player.

[DallasAstro]

From reading posts, it seems like most are disappointed in our draft.   I will reserve judgement, but like our strategy.   

- DeShields can be a tablesetter at the beginning of the line-up; possibly tie him and Bourn or Austin (if Bourn is gone in 3 years)together to cause havoc
- Foltyniewicz could be another frontline pitcher to go with Lyles, Bushue and Paulino
- Kvansnicka seems to have a good swing, but concerned that he can play 3B; may move to first
- Velasquez sounds like he was a steal from front office excitement
- Wates good bat but no position; 

I am looking forward to the summer and watching this new additions play in short season leagues

[MikeyBoy]

Here is a great story on Chris Wallace, who almost had his career ended via the bean ball.   Great kid and really good family.   http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6365657.html

I hear he's represented by P Diddy, so could be some signability issues.

In retrospect, not sure that I didn't include him when I said LOE...

Bingo

From reading posts, it seems like most are disappointed in our draft.     

I don't get that feeling at all. The posters on this site are far too knowledgable to tie emotion into the draft knowing how hard it is to project in baseball and to trust an organization that has proven to be competent, based on the last two drafts.

[pots]

From reading posts, it seems like most are disappointed in our draft.   I will reserve judgement, but like our strategy.   

Not at all.  At least I'm not. All early picks have huge upsides and no obvious signability issues.  If they develop well, we could be looking at a great crop of players.   

[Noe]

From reading posts, it seems like most are disappointed in our draft.   I will reserve judgement, but like our strategy.

Huh?  I think you're mistaking the SnS for somewhere else.   

- Kvansnicka seems to have a good swing, but concerned that he can play 3B; may move to first

He's a catcher and right fielder.

[S.P. Rodriguez]

He's a catcher and right fielder.

Not to argue, Heck was quoted as saying they like his versatility, viewed as a major plus.  They will take a look at him at 3B, as they believe he has the athleticism to play infield.  I think that's the comment he was responding to. 

[Jacksonian]

Finally able to break my absenteeism.  Exactly the kind of draft to expect from Wade/Heck.  High school athleticism.  College players later especially.  Early college guys to fill needs.

It is clear now that for the top high school talent the Astros go to Georgia/SC, Illinois, Texas, and Cali.  That's 3 drafts in a row.

More Lyles/Bushue type high school pitchers.  Everyone should be very excited.

I expect Kvalphabet to be a quick mover, maybe even as fast as Castro has been.  3B is a big hole in the org below Johnson at AAA though Meyers at Lex is doing ok.

In a draft lacking "can't miss" prospects at the top, no one should be disappointed.

Last, OSF kicks all your asses.

[Jacksonian]

Huh?  I think you're mistaking the SnS for somewhere else.   

He's a catcher and right fielder.

When drafted, Bagwell announced him as a 3B.  That is done at the Astros' request.  They will play him there until he proves he can't do it.

[Ron Brand]

Exactly the kind of draft to expect from Wade/Heck.  High school athleticism.  College players later especially.  Early college guys to fill needs.

More Lyles/Bushue type high school pitchers.  Everyone should be very excited.

In a draft lacking "can't miss" prospects at the top, no one should be disappointed.

Last, OSF kicks all your asses.

I believe all of this to be true too. I know that I don't know squat about the details but from what I've gathered here and elsewhere, I'm excited about this draft.

[cougar]

Well, it doesn't sound like Jones will be an Astros based on this article:http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/article/20100609/HSSPORTS/100608022

The dad sounds like he's been hypnotized by Boras.  I get wanting the most for your kid, but he's making it sound like Jacoby is going off to war or at least indentured servitude.

[Lurch]

Well, it doesn't sound like Jones will be an Astros based on this article:http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/article/20100609/HSSPORTS/100608022

The dad sounds like he's been hypnotized by Boras.  I get wanting the most for your kid, but he's making it sound like Jacoby is going off to war or at least indentured servitude.

“We were advised to be prepared that he would drop in the draft because of that signability. It’s kind of a shame. Used to be they just drafted on talent; now it’s based on whether they can sign you.”

Yikes.

[domedogs]

Last, OSF kicks all your asses.

+1

[astrosfan76]

Well, it doesn't sound like Jones will be an Astros based on this article:http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/article/20100609/HSSPORTS/100608022

The dad sounds like he's been hypnotized by Boras.  I get wanting the most for your kid, but he's making it sound like Jacoby is going off to war or at least indentured servitude.

The dad sounds like another Jones whose son had an LSU scholarship. 

[astrosfan76]

“We were advised to be prepared that he would drop in the draft because of that signability. It’s kind of a shame. Used to be they just drafted on talent; now it’s based on whether they can sign you.”

Yikes.

Or teams like other players more for the price you're throwing around...?

[dirty steve]

I expect Kvalphabet to be a quick mover, maybe even as fast as Castro has been.  3B is a big hole in the org below Johnson at AAA though Meyers at Lex is doing ok.

Exactly what I was hoping to hear.

[pots]

"Jones declined to say exactly how much they were asking for, but said it was, “way above seven figures.” The Astros countered with an offer that was a little over $1 million"


Goodness.  Just how much is way over?  5 mil?  Got news for Mr. Jones.  A bachelor's isn't worth very much these days.  He'll have to improve to top 10 to catch the numbers he's looking for. Is the odds of that similar to him making it to the majors (which gaurantees a salary of 400k)?


If it was me, I'd get the Astros high enough to clear a cool million after taxes.  Invest that into retirement.  If baseball doesn't work out then at 30 you can retire.  

[Leeaire]

I havent really said anything about the draft but I will say this, I like it. There really wasn't much of anything else to say . Now I just want the players to get signed and for them to get playing to see how their careers go.

DeShields just reminds me of some old baseball games i would play with my brother when his father would come up to bat. Folty looks like his stuff is quite good, I'm excited to see what he may do. Kvasomething make Bagwell get that look on his face when he got a really bad strike call on him at the podium lol--and Kvasomething plays 3rd for us unless he just cant do it! I'm also excited about Wates because he has speed and gap power and a frame that can add muscle and hopefully more power...he also has a good approach at the plate according to what many scouts have said.

Good luck draftees...make us proud.

[moriartp]

Kvalphabet

And thus was he named.

[pots]

Velasquez is the most interesting pick for me.  Sounds like had he played things differently in high school (commited to pitching at least a year earlier) he could have been first round.  Obviously very raw, but possibly the most upside.

[Ron Brand]

First one's in the barn - UH catcher Chris Wallace signed with the Astros.

[pots]

Apologies if this link has already been posted.  Nice little sum up of DeShields Jr pick:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100607&content_id=10912946&vkey=draftcentral2010&fext=.jsp

[moriartp]

Callis says in chat that Foltynewicz has higher ceiling than Lyles.

[Ron Brand]

Callis says in chat that Foltynewicz has higher ceiling than Lyles.

Oh, that's crazy. Keith Law said there were dozens of better pitchers available at that pick.

[OregonStrosFan]

A little late to the party today folks, sorry 'bout that...

Rd. 31, #933: L/L, LHP Travis Blankenship, SR U Kansas.
Rd. 32, #963: R/R, RHP, William Chrismon, Menchville HS, VA. MLB VIDEO
Rd. 33, #993: R/R, RHP Michael Ness, SR, Duke. MLB Video
Rd. 34, #1023: R/R, RHP Ryan Cole, SR St. Johns
Rd. 35, #1053: L/L, 1B Esteban  Gomez, Bishop Ford Central HS, NY.
Rd. 36, #1083: L/R, RHP, Ryan Halstead, Los Osos HS, CA.
Rd. 37, #1113: R/R, RHP, Brian Streilein, SR, Villanova
Rd. 38, #1143: L/L, 1B, Ryan Ford, Plano West Sr. HS, TX. MLB scouting video
Rd. 39, #1173: R/R, RHP, Krishawn Holley, Mid Carolina HS, SC
Rd. 40, #1203: L/L, LHP, Jeremiah Meiners, SR, Francis Marion U

[S.P. Rodriguez]

A little late to the party today folks, sorry 'bout that...

Rd. 31, #933: L/L, LHP Travis Blankenship, SR U Kansas.
Rd. 32, #963: R/R, RHP, William Chrismon, Menchville HS, VA. MLB VIDEO
Rd. 33, #993: R/R, RHP Michael Ness, SR, Duke. MLB Video
Rd. 34, #1023: R/R, RHP Ryan Cole, SR St. Johns
Rd. 35, #1053: L/L, 1B Esteban  Gomez, Bishop Ford Central HS, NY.
Rd. 36, #1083: L/R, RHP, Ryan Halstead, Los Osos HS, CA.
Rd. 37, #1113: R/R, RHP, Brian Streilein, SR, Villanova
Rd. 38, #1143: L/L, 1B, Ryan Ford, Plano West Sr. HS, TX. MLB scouting video
Rd. 39, #1173: R/R, RHP, Krishawn Holley, Mid Carolina HS, SC
Rd. 40, #1203: L/L, LHP, Jeremiah Meiners, SR, Francis Marion U

Yer darn right you should apologize.  Why, what am I supposed to do?  Track this myself?  Good god man, do  you know who I am?

(that's my sarcastic way of saying, thanks for doing all that you are doing.  Following the draft has been a wonderful distraction from a crappy work week!  And without your effort, that wouldn't be possible.  )

[Froback]

"Jones declined to say exactly how much they were asking for, but said it was, “way above seven figures.” The Astros countered with an offer that was a little over $1 million"


Goodness.  Just how much is way over?  5 mil?  Got news for Mr. Jones.  A bachelor's isn't worth very much these days.  He'll have to improve to top 10 to catch the numbers he's looking for. Is the odds of that similar to him making it to the majors (which gaurantees a salary of 400k)?


If it was me, I'd get the Astros high enough to clear a cool million after taxes.  Invest that into retirement.  If baseball doesn't work out then at 30 you can retire.  

While I don't understand the thinking in turing down $1Mil, for it.  I have a nephew who just completed his Soph year in HS and was part of this Texas team of all-stars in Ok City this past week.  He even had a walk off 3-run HR that my sister said was pretty impressive.  Anyway, I asked her about the draft and such since I know he has to have been scouted for as good as he supposedly is.  Her response made it clear that SHE wants him to go to college, and then after a degree think about professional ball.  Supposedly he wants to stay close to home in Houston, so my guess is the common goal of mom and son will be Rice, although she is a UofH grad, so you never know.

But I am interested to see if he is truly good enough to be offered something like a $1 Mil if my nephew will forego College for Minor League ball.  And just for the record he does get good grades (at least to this point).

[Froback]

First one's in the barn - UH catcher Chris Wallace signed with the Astros.

Let's see HS in Houston, College in Houston, MLB in Houston... talk about dream coming true.  Good luck to him, and congrats on signing their first player before the draft is even over!  THAT is a multi-tasking front office.

[OregonStrosFan]

While I don't understand the thinking in turing down $1Mil, for it.  I have a nephew who just completed his Soph year in HS and was part of this Texas team of all-stars in Ok City this past week.  He even had a walk off 3-run HR that my sister said was pretty impressive.  Anyway, I asked her about the draft and such since I know he has to have been scouted for as good as he supposedly is.  Her response made it clear that SHE wants him to go to college, and then after a degree think about professional ball.  Supposedly he wants to stay close to home in Houston, so my guess is the common goal of mom and son will be Rice, although she is a UofH grad, so you never know.

But I am interested to see if he is truly good enough to be offered something like a $1 Mil if my nephew will forego College for Minor League ball.  And just for the record he does get good grades (at least to this point).

I'm curious how Boras will advise Jones in this instance.  From a pure 'Boras is a money-grubbing slut' perspective, I'd think it would be 'play the school angle hard, I'll raise a stink about the Astros being cheap and then we'll take our best money on the eve of the signing deadline.'  If he won't be a draft-eligible Sophomore (I'm too lazy to look it up right now) then. with the LSU commitment he won't be eligible for the draft until 2013.  Given the way that Selig in beating the drums about a hard slotting system agreement in the next CBA(?) in 2012(?), I have to think it will be implemented by 2013.  Then what is the kid going to do?  Roll the dice, hope he is a top 5 pick and get $2.5M to $3.0M, or take $1.5M or so, an additional 'college fund' from the club (Houston has added college money to the deal for a number of younger draftees), and start his career now.  Somehow (given the 'Boras is a money-grubbing slut' factor) I'm guessing (hoping) it will be the latter...