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Taras Bulba

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Zito a Giant
« on: December 28, 2006, 01:23:22 pm »
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Re: Zito a Giant
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2006, 02:29:16 pm »
SEVEN years.  Jeeze-O.  We get the Giants at home, mid May and then again on the Bay the next week.  Can't wait to see Sir Lance-alot welcome him to the heart of the new Astros line-up.
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Re: Zito a Giant
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2006, 02:41:25 pm »
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Re: Zito a Giant
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2006, 03:07:14 pm »
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SEVEN years.  Jeeze-O.


He'll be 36 when this contract ends.

Maybe by then, average pitchers will be making $18mm a year.  Maybe.
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Re: Zito a Giant
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2006, 03:32:37 pm »
When I saw this deal, the terms/money, and knowing what I do about Zito (admittedly not much, since he's in the AL) I immediately thought of Mike Hampton.

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Re: Zito a Giant
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2006, 03:59:02 pm »
I wonder who the Giants thought they were bidding against that made them go to a seventh year and add a million per year. Only the Rangers were offering a similar 6 year deal, and Zito had already said no to them. The Mets wouldn't budge above 5 years. Boras may be satan, but he is damn good at what he does.
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Re: Zito a Giant
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2006, 06:40:27 pm »
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When I saw this deal, the terms/money, and knowing what I do about Zito (admittedly not much, since he's in the AL) I immediately thought of Mike Hampton.

I am, of course, a genius.  See most similar players by age:
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I have a feeling this will be a huge albatross for the Gints.



Are the Giants moving to Denver?
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2006, 11:21:20 pm »
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When I saw this deal, the terms/money, and knowing what I do about Zito (admittedly not much, since he's in the AL) I immediately thought of Mike Hampton.

I am, of course, a genius.  See most similar players by age:
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I have a feeling this will be a huge albatross for the Gints.



Are the Giants moving to Denver?



Yes.  Boras made them agree to that.
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Re: Zito a Giant
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2006, 12:35:56 am »
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When I saw this deal, the terms/money, and knowing what I do about Zito (admittedly not much, since he's in the AL) I immediately thought of Mike Hampton.

I am, of course, a genius.  See most similar players by age:
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I have a feeling this will be a huge albatross for the Gints.



Are the Giants moving to Denver?



Yes.  Boras made them agree to that.



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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2006, 04:18:40 pm »
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He'll be 36 when this contract ends.

Maybe by then, average pitchers will be making $18mm a year.  Maybe.



Pitchers are one pitch away from being injured.   You try to minimize that by teaching proper mechanics and all, but overall, it is a foolish investment to give a pitcher at any time a seven year commitment.  Five years is pretty good for the pitcher and still a minor risk.  Three years is a great investment for both parties.

Going seven means you're a desperate team and if this is setting a trend for contracts in the future, then those who follow this lead by the Jints are in fact... STUPID!

I hope Zito lives up to his contract length, but chances are against that happening.  It didn't for Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson nor Mike Hampton.  The first three years of the contract may pay off, but the last four will be difficult for the Jints to carry.  Very difficult.
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Re: Zito a Giant
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2006, 06:46:55 pm »
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Pitchers are one pitch away from being injured.   You try to minimize that by teaching proper mechanics and all, but overall, it is a foolish investment to give a pitcher at any time a seven year commitment.  Five years is pretty good for the pitcher and still a minor risk.  Three years is a great investment for both parties.

Going seven means you're a desperate team and if this is setting a trend for contracts in the future, then those who follow this lead by the Jints are in fact... STUPID!

I hope Zito lives up to his contract length, but chances are against that happening.  It didn't for Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson nor Mike Hampton.  The first three years of the contract may pay off, but the last four will be difficult for the Jints to carry.  Very difficult.


Irrespective of the inherent "wrongness" of pitching, at 36 he is unlikely to be dominating or even just strong.  If he remains healthy he'll be ok at best (unless he starts eating steaks from HEB), but by then maybe "just ok" costs $18 mil per.

More likely, there's about $40mm on that contract that'll never get earned.
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