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Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« on: November 24, 2006, 03:12:49 pm »
Scott to RF?  Who'll teach him how to play RF?  Lane released?  Traded?  Selling peanuts?

Taveras CF
Biggio 2B
Berkman 1B
Lee LF
Huff 3B (?)
Scott RF (?)
Everett SS
Ausmus C
Pitcher

???

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2006, 03:55:17 pm »
1. LF ain't all that diffrent from RF
2. By my estimation, if Huff is resigned, and Ensberg stays on the team, Huff will platoon with Scott in right, Ensberg getting time at third.
3. Looks like a pretty decent lineup. Woody will prolly be signed, and we pray that Pettitte and Clemens sign.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2006, 03:56:20 pm »
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1. LF ain't all that diffrent from RF




So.......you didn't WATCH Luke Scott in RF then?

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2006, 03:57:19 pm »
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So.......you didn't WATCH Luke Scott in RF then?





reading that, i doubt he has ever watched an actual game of baseball
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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2006, 03:59:55 pm »
I maintain that it ain't all that different.

If this is the way it looks, he'll get more reps out in right during spring training, etc. The world wont end with him in right.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2006, 04:01:40 pm »
Maintain whatever you want, the statement is incorrect.

And I would think that if we signed Huff, it ain't to platoon.  If Huff is an Astro, he's our every day 3B.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2006, 04:04:37 pm »
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I maintain that it ain't all that different.

If this is the way it looks, he'll get more reps out in right during spring training, etc. The world wont end with him in right.





A right fielder generally needs a better arm, for one thing. For another thing, the Astros play 81 games in a home park where the dimensions and conditions of left and right field are vastly different. To pretend that playing one of them is not all that different than playing the other is to ignore reality.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2006, 04:09:22 pm »
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Scott to RF?  Who'll teach him how to play RF?  Lane released?  Traded?  Selling peanuts?

Taveras CF
Biggio 2B
Berkman 1B
Lee LF
Huff 3B (?)
Scott RF (?)
Everett SS
Ausmus C
Pitcher

???





Purp chose Lane over Preston a couple of months ago so I think he hasn't completely gave up on him.  Right now I would say he is the 4th OFer.  Ensberg at 3B and Huff is in a different uniform would be my guess since we still have Lamb.

You are right about the OF defense being questionable.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2006, 04:12:41 pm »
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Scott to RF?  Who'll teach him how to play RF?  Lane released?  Traded?  Selling peanuts?

Taveras CF
Biggio 2B
Berkman 1B
Lee LF
Huff 3B (?)
Scott RF (?)
Everett SS
Ausmus C
Pitcher

???





Purp chose Lane over Preston a couple of months ago so I think he hasn't completely gave up on him.  Right now I would say he is the 4th OFer.  Ensberg at 3B and Huff is in a different uniform would be my guess since we still have Lamb.

You are right about the OF defense being questionable.




Lane's a pretty good right fielder. Too bad he forgot how to hit.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2006, 04:16:49 pm »
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Scott to RF?  Who'll teach him how to play RF?  Lane released?  Traded?  Selling peanuts?

Taveras CF
Biggio 2B
Berkman 1B
Lee LF
Huff 3B (?)
Scott RF (?)
Everett SS
Ausmus C
Pitcher

???





Purp chose Lane over Preston a couple of months ago so I think he hasn't completely gave up on him.  Right now I would say he is the 4th OFer.  Ensberg at 3B and Huff is in a different uniform would be my guess since we still have Lamb.

You are right about the OF defense being questionable.




Lane's a pretty good right fielder. Too bad he forgot how to hit.




No doubt.  He really isn't a bad 4th OFer option.  Defensive sub, power off the bench, can play all 3 spots in a pinch.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2006, 04:23:35 pm »
In Scott's lifetime experience in outfield, I imagine he's played outfield in parks that have left and right field roughly equal. I don't think his defence in right will be a very big problem.

And do you really think, regardless of your own opinions of the guy, that the Astros will give up on Ensberg at this point?

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2006, 04:25:49 pm »
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In Scott's lifetime experience in outfield, I imagine he's played outfield in parks that have left and right field roughly equal. I don't think his defence in right will be a very big problem.

And do you really think, regardless of your own opinions of the guy, that the Astros will give up on Ensberg at this point?





Do you know what my opinions are of Ensberg?

I think Lee's signing decreases the chances that the Astros will spend big money on Huff, which increases the chances that Ensberg will be playing third base for the Astros next season?

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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2006, 04:35:11 pm »
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In Scott's lifetime experience in outfield, I imagine he's played outfield in parks that have left and right field roughly equal. I don't think his defence in right will be a very big problem.

And do you really think, regardless of your own opinions of the guy, that the Astros will give up on Ensberg at this point?





Do you know what my opinions are of Ensberg?

I think Lee's signing decreases the chances that the Astros will spend big money on Huff, which increases the chances that Ensberg will be playing third base for the Astros next season?





Forgive me, that was directed at Alkie.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2006, 07:44:42 pm »
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Scott to RF?  Who'll teach him how to play RF?  Lane released?  Traded?  Selling peanuts?

Taveras CF
Biggio 2B
Berkman 1B
Lee LF
Huff 3B (?)
Scott RF (?)
Everett SS
Ausmus C
Pitcher

???





Purp chose Lane over Preston a couple of months ago so I think he hasn't completely gave up on him.  Right now I would say he is the 4th OFer.  Ensberg at 3B and Huff is in a different uniform would be my guess since we still have Lamb.

You are right about the OF defense being questionable.




Lane's a pretty good right fielder. Too bad he forgot how to hit.




Anyone think that Palmiero gets the axe?  Is Jimerson designated for assignment?

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2006, 08:00:37 pm »
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Maintain whatever you want, the statement is incorrect.

And I would think that if we signed Huff, it ain't to platoon.  If Huff is an Astro, he's our every day 3B.





If they don't sign Huff, I certainly hope they offer him arb.  If the Rangers offer Lee arb and the Pads offer Woody arb the Astros will be without their first and second round draft selections.  This is even more crucial now that there will be no DFE's. On the otherhand, fewer picks means less work for me on the draft review.
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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2006, 08:08:47 pm »
you are fucking crazy. there are worlds of difference between LF and RF.
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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2006, 08:17:20 pm »
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In Scott's lifetime experience in outfield, I imagine he's played outfield in parks that have left and right field roughly equal. I don't think his defence in right will be a very big problem.

And do you really think, regardless of your own opinions of the guy, that the Astros will give up on Ensberg at this point?





Do you know what my opinions are of Ensberg?

I think Lee's signing decreases the chances that the Astros will spend big money on Huff, which increases the chances that Ensberg will be playing third base for the Astros next season?





If Drayton really wanted to go all out, he could sign Huff to platoon with Ensberg at 3B. Have Scott platoon with Lane in RF. That's a pretty nasty lineup against both righties and lefties, considering Ensberg and Lane still mash left handed pitchers.

Anyone think Huff would take a hometown discount?

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2006, 08:19:10 pm »
Lane hit .198 last year against lefties.  

Care to revise your statement?

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2006, 08:36:49 pm »
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In Scott's lifetime experience in outfield, I imagine he's played outfield in parks that have left and right field roughly equal. I don't think his defence in right will be a very big problem.

And do you really think, regardless of your own opinions of the guy, that the Astros will give up on Ensberg at this point?





Do you know what my opinions are of Ensberg?

I think Lee's signing decreases the chances that the Astros will spend big money on Huff, which increases the chances that Ensberg will be playing third base for the Astros next season?




Purpura just intimated as much on 610. Sounds like Huff won't be in an Astros uniform next season.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2006, 08:37:52 pm »
I sure hope we trade for a 3B then.  I'd rather have Joe Randa than Morgan Ensberg.

Hell, I'd rather have David Bell.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2006, 08:42:58 pm »
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I sure hope we trade for a 3B then.  I'd rather have Joe Randa than Morgan Ensberg.

Hell, I'd rather have David Bell.





I wouldn't. Signing Lee might allow us to slot Ensberg in the 2 hole and drop back the Bigio/Burke combination to 6. We still have Mike Lamb as a possible part timer there too.

I'd rather spend the money on Pettitte/Clemens or another pitcher if Pettitte/Clemens drag this thing out. It looks like the going rate for #3 starters has jumped up to 4/40 though from the 3/21 it was a few years ago.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2006, 08:45:40 pm »
Well, you do bring up an interesting point.  If we let Huff walk and go with an Ensberg/Lamb righty/lefty platoon, then 80% of the time, we're looking at:

Taveras
Biggio
Berkman
Lee
Lamb
Scott
Everett
Ausmus
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Berkman-batting-lefty, Lee, Lamb?  Man.  I'll take it.

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2006, 08:46:51 pm »
So you're not comforted by the fact that 2007 is an odd-numbered year?

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2006, 08:48:46 pm »
ah, stubby's back. i think he's married to Morgan.
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2006, 08:54:09 pm »
vs. Braves in the NLDS?

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Re: Ok, So Lee's in LF. Now What?
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2006, 09:26:20 pm »
Did you miss me Jim?

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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2006, 09:31:13 pm »
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Lane hit .198 last year against lefties.  

Care to revise your statement?





He posted a decent enough OPS despite the BA. I think it was something like .770/.670. He's definitely split decently hard. Lane had an interesting year last year. If you look at his month to month stats, he was hot/cold/hot/cold/hot. Real strange. I would at least try him out against lefties next year.