Author Topic: Friday Afternoon Non-BB Rant Thread (Read 3303 times)

Limey · « **on:** September 08, 2006, 04:47:37 pm »

I fucking hate Windows.

das · « **Reply #1 on:** September 08, 2006, 04:59:18 pm »

Stare at the wall on the other side of the room then.

JGrave · « **Reply #2 on:** September 08, 2006, 05:12:36 pm »

I hate Nickelback and Fall Out Boy.

HurricaneDavid · « **Reply #3 on:** September 08, 2006, 05:19:30 pm »

Quote:

I fucking hate Windows.

...because?

In other news, I love lamp.

MusicMan · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2006, 05:32:17 pm »

I ate a bunch of fiberglass insulation. It wasn't cotton candy like the guy said it was.

My tummy itches.

Limey · « **Reply #7 on:** September 08, 2006, 05:39:24 pm »

...because?

Just lately, I managed to solve the update problem I had, in that Windows was unable to execute the software update for itself, that it downloads itself and is written by Microsoft specifically for Windows. I had to dig around the MS website to find out how to get this "automatic" update to work.

Great! Except that, now, when my Dell goes to sleep, it doesn't wake up. I have to reboot every time.

And it crashes with iTunes, or simply decides to invent ficticious users who are using my iPod so that it cannot be recognised by iTunes.

These are just the current annoyances.

HurricaneDavid · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2006, 05:41:03 pm »

Pine is the shit.

Holly · « **Reply #13 on:** September 08, 2006, 06:22:36 pm »

Whoa, and I figured I'd be the only on here who uses that

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #14 on:** September 08, 2006, 06:46:48 pm »

But have you ever really "worked" on a Mac?

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #18 on:** September 09, 2006, 08:44:26 am »

I just find those spots disingenuous. I do alot of work on Macs, stuff they are supposed to perform well doing like editing, graphics and animation and while they do just fine, I find them every bit as frustrating, sometimes more so, than I do a PC.

Greg M · « **Reply #19 on:** September 09, 2006, 05:02:30 pm »

My problem with Windows is how easily it'll crash and its succeptability to viruses. My problem with Macs is that if/when something goes wrong with the hardware, I'm pretty clueless on how to fix it. Linux is the bomb (stable, no viruses and tons of open-source, i.e. free, software), but you've got to be a little more tech savy to use it. There's some buzz that SUZE 10 is really user friendly making it a potential challenger to Windows.

Holly · « **Reply #20 on:** September 09, 2006, 05:33:53 pm »

Saying Linux is virus free is just an admission to not ever going under the hood with it. It has virus susceptibility, just to fewer people and certainly fewer greasy 14-year-olds who are bored. The problem is that *UX virii run with a great deal more stealth than Windows ones. So, yeah, being more tech savvy is a bit of a barrier to entry... but in more ways than you meant.

Plus, it's Suse, not SUZE

The interface is just window (ahem) dressing. Any GUI from any Linux distribution can be applied to any other distribution. Same operating system, just different management tools and file locations (all customizable, and hybridizable, of course).

Greg M · « **Reply #21 on:** September 09, 2006, 06:18:17 pm »

I'll freely admit I misspelled SUSE but the differences between the Linux OSs is more than just the aspect of the GUI. They're related OSs but to say they're the same is just an admission to not ever going under the hood with it.

Holly · « **Reply #22 on:** September 09, 2006, 07:36:13 pm »

Whoa, no way, man. Linux *is* the OS. The different names for it (Suse, RedHat, Debian, etc.) are just *distributions* -- it's a concept not in place with Windows and MacOS, so it's not one familiar to folks who primarily use either of those. It's the same kernel in there, the same shells, etc. Things are just in different places, and each distribution has its favored GUI. So, yeah, "the difference is more than just the aspect of the GUI" which I said before. The difference between *distros*... there aren't multiple Linuxes... there are just different distributions of it, and you can substitute "packages" for distributions, to put it in more layman's terms.

Trust me, I've been under the hood with Linux probably more than 99% of the folks who read and post here. I know what I'm talking about -- been a sysadmin for the last 8 or so years, cut my teeth on the 1.0.24 kernel and even participated in benchmarking at an early stage of development... google me and the word bogomips

(OK, enough pulling out the ruler here.)

Greg M · « **Reply #23 on:** September 09, 2006, 07:58:09 pm »

Good for you Holly. I don't doubt that you're very familiar with your system. I know that you've been using UNIX for a long time. I remember you quite well from Usenet back in the early 90s. With that said:

Fedora = Red Hat != Debian based distros like Ubuntu. There are kernal differences and the commands are not universal.

The Link

"Among GNU/Linux distributions, there can be many variances in the base operating system (kernel and userland utilities). Some have unique methods of managing startup scripts; others mimic BSD or Unix. You can know everything there is to know about creating and modifying init scripts on Red Hat Enterprise Linux, then be totally lost when trying to implement the same changes on Gentoo Linux.

Almost all distros make their own small, custom changes to the Linux kernel in order to accommodate other changes or additions that the distribution maintainers want to make. This makes each distro's kernel unique, and probably incompatible with other distributions. Commercial desktop GNU/Linux distros usually have extensively hacked kernels that support proprietary programs like Win4Lin, VMware, and proprietary hardware drivers."

Holly · « **Reply #24 on:** September 09, 2006, 08:30:10 pm »

That's right! It's all Linux, with different packages

There aren't different Linux OSes, just different distributions of Linux. Not any simpler than that.

Gizzmonic · « **Reply #25 on:** September 09, 2006, 10:17:08 pm »

I'm sure no one cares, but I'm exclusively Mac at my work. There's a Mac version of Microsoft Office, so even the powerpoint junkies can use it...plus, you can easily make a PDF out of any documents you want. They also have Entourage, which has most of the functionality of Outlook. So if you're really sick of Windows...stick your neck out there and get a Mac. You'll pay more for it, but you'll save on wasted time.

Author Topic: Friday Afternoon Non-BB Rant Thread (Read 3303 times)

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