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stubbyc · « **on:** July 30, 2006, 10:17:14 pm »

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Astros third baseman Morgan Ensberg remains the Padres' primary trade target, but Cubs right-hander Greg Maddux could represent Plan B, FOXSports.com has learned.

The Padres' plans hinge on two unrelated scenarios ? the prognosis for right-hander Chan Ho Park, who went on the disabled list Sunday, and the Astros' pursuit of Orioles shortstop Miguel Tejada.

Ensberg, currently on the DL with a bruised right shoulder, is part of the Astros' offer for Tejada, according to major-league sources.

The Astros, however, are unlikely to trade Ensberg in a lesser deal. They were not enthused by the Padres' initial offer of right-handed reliever Scott Linebrink and either infielder Mark Bellhorn or Geoff Blum ? and probably would want a more substantial regular, such as Padres shortstop Khalil Greene, in return.

Alkie · « **Reply #1 on:** July 30, 2006, 10:19:10 pm »

I saw this. I don't see where anything the Pads want to give us, helps us.

Desperado · « **Reply #2 on:** July 30, 2006, 10:19:46 pm »

Khalil Greene??

Alkie · « **Reply #3 on:** July 30, 2006, 10:22:19 pm »

Quote:

Khalil Greene??

Seriously. We already HAVE Adam Everett. What in the fucking world does KHALIL GREENE do us??

stubbyc · « **Reply #9 on:** July 30, 2006, 11:33:29 pm »

"The source tells me that the Rangers would send Brad Wilkerson and Rod Barajas to Houston for Brad Lidge, Morgan Ensberg and Fernando Nieve."

I just can't believe that's even a remote possibility.

MusicMan · « **Reply #13 on:** July 30, 2006, 11:58:43 pm »

Holy shit... not only is the Sun indicating that OSwalt was in the package, but that THAT WASN'T FUCKING ENOUGH FOR BALTIMORE!!!

Ramblings of an insane newspaper.

Fortunately, they also indicate that the Astros have now pulled Oswalt off the table. (Translation: the writer's evening dose kicked in.)

MusicMan · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2006, 12:03:16 am »

And, predictably enough, Pinwheel is now parroting this rumor.

Fredia · « **Reply #16 on:** July 31, 2006, 12:26:42 am »

quick someone come up with another rumor i am having withdrawal

CJM · « **Reply #17 on:** July 31, 2006, 12:39:37 am »

The comments on that Justice blog made my eyes bleed. So many stupid comments on one page, it must be a record. The one that said his wife was in the bedroom crying was great- the thin walls in the trailer must have made it easy for him to hear her.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #18 on:** July 31, 2006, 12:42:59 am »

The comments on that site make Sports Radio sound like a Mensa meeting.

DVauthrin · « **Reply #19 on:** July 31, 2006, 01:23:14 am »

Both Stark and Rosenthal report Oswalt actually was offered With Everett and Ensberg. For Tejada and no report of any other significant players coming our way. That just makes no sense, which is why I still can't believe it to be true.

I can't believe the Astros would even consider such a deal.

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Update from Jayson StarK

By late Sunday night, the Orioles had next to nothing in the works for Tejada. But if they don't trade him, it won't be because they didn't have some fascinating names thrown at them. Teams that have spoken with them say they actually discussed Roy Oswalt, Lance Berkman and Brad Lidge with the Astros, for instance. Oswalt apparently would have been viewed as the centerpiece of that deal. But because he was a year away from free agency, the Orioles then tried shopping him around to see if he (and possibly Lidge) could be spun into an even younger, bigger package.

stubbyc · « **Reply #20 on:** July 31, 2006, 01:26:56 am »

Unreal. Oswalt, Ensberg, and Everett. I still don't believe it.

johnstros · « **Reply #21 on:** July 31, 2006, 01:40:14 am »

berkman's name came up...

that isn't even funny

asking doesn't mean at all there was a discussion

DVauthrin · « **Reply #22 on:** July 31, 2006, 01:51:43 am »

The only thing I can think of is the Astros offered other players, and asked, what would it take to get Tejada. This was Baltimore's reply, and the Astros said goodbye Baltimore.

Then the news gets passed around to baseball writers who are looking for juicy rumors in a somewhat mundane trade deadline season and they run with it.

Bench · « **Reply #23 on:** July 31, 2006, 02:27:20 am »

According to Rosenthal, the Astros killed the deal when they found out that the Orioles had a deal to send Oswalt to the Rangers.

I can't fathom how that would make the Astros take Roy off the table if he were actually on the table. Other than some residual Nolan hangups, who the fuck cares what the Orioles would do with him once you've decided to trade him? Astros-Rangers aren't exactly Yankees-Red Sox. I've certainly never considered the Rangers "competitors" other than the six games a year I have to watch between the two teams.

The Spleen · « **Reply #24 on:** July 31, 2006, 02:38:11 am »

Bad Habit Bear says, "Remember, kids... paint chips are for eating... NOT for smoking..."

DVauthrin · « **Reply #25 on:** July 31, 2006, 02:59:10 am »

Chronicle update:

Astros still want Tejada, but Oswalt is off the market. Also, apparently that Ensberg, Roy, AE deal was never offered(thank goodness) but oswalt did enter discussions in another offer.

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Edit: according to rosenthal, the deal that angelos squashed on friday involved oswalt and tejada. The Link

astro pete · « **Reply #26 on:** July 31, 2006, 03:03:53 am »

Enough. Tell Baltimore to fuck itself. It's pretty clear absolutely nothing is going to happen with Tejada.