Embrace your inner Clark

[Zan]

I am secure in my role as a Clark. Roster Filler is for the birds. Therefore, I am going to say things that non-clarks can't say, but I believe are compelling:

1) Scraps sometimes doesn't seem to know when to hold off on using his terrible relievers, even when he ostensibly has better options in the pen.
 
2) The source of our frustration with the Cards is not primarily with the media hype, or the curtain calls, or the LaRussa-Pujols crush, but with the fact that Pujols really is SOOO annoyingly good. Also, guys who are supposed to suck seem to cease sucking as badly when they hit around him. I freaking hate it!

3) Charlie Palillo is a good sports radio guy, even if 90% of the callers do suck.

There. Embrace the Clarkian uprising.

[JackAstro]

You know, I don't think Dave Clark would be with you on this one. He at least tried not to suck, and faded away after it became clear that sucking was unavoidable. Even Clark never embraced being Clark.

[drew corleone]

Maybe there should be a sub-class of Clark called Gallo.

[MRaup]

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Maybe there should be a sub-class of Clark called Gallo.

Which would be those that were in the que to be released shortly?

[JimR]

you know, you work perhaps hardest of all to be dumb. the Gallo decision was discussed here thoroughly yesterday. Garner had no other options during that inning. if you feel like you are way too smart to learn from us, then you could learn from what Garner said about the decision. but, no--you just post this nonsense.

Dave Clark was a major league ballplayer who had some very good years. to me, Clark is not synonymous with your kind of stupid. you are a fucking idiot, and the moderators should create a FI label for dumbasses like you.

[Taras Bulba]

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Maybe there should be a sub-class of Clark called Gallo.

Which would be those that were in the que to be released shortly?

So, is this the start of the "Mike Gallo Death Watch" derby?

[No? in Austin]

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Maybe there should be a sub-class of Clark called Gallo.

Which would be those that were in the que to be released shortly?

So, is this the start of the "Mike Gallo Death Watch" derby?

I would think so.  I watched his interview last night after the replayed game.  Gallo used a lot of "we" in his statements, like "*We've* been a good team that is able to shake a loss like this off and bounce back.  *We're* a pretty resilent bunch.  *We'll* be okay."

I kept thinking to myself "Okay, well I am witnessing the very first time ever a ballplayer should not use *we*!".

[Fredia]

no it will be the case of him being traded to another team then comming back to bite the astros.. gallo should be glad he lives in  modern times. death watch could be the appropriate words if he lived during the french revolution..

[Astroholic]

1. I would hope that another team would trade something for him.  
2. I highly doubt he would come back to haunt the stros.

[headhunter]

At least Gallo's use of the plural to comment on his personal flameout is not as bad as Ausmus using "we" to refer to the pitching battery. At least Zan uses "I" to refer to his half of the bitching battery.

[shortstop]

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you know, you work perhaps hardest of all to be dumb. the Gallo decision was discussed here thoroughly yesterday. Garner had no other options during that inning. if you feel like you are way too smart to learn from us, then you could learn from what Garner said about the decision. but, no--you just post this nonsense.

Dave Clark was a major league ballplayer who had some very good years. to me, Clark is not synonymous with your kind of stupid. you are a fucking idiot, and the moderators should create a FI label for dumbasses like you.

Wow ...

try this ... maybe it will help you: The Link

[Spider Pellini]

I guess I ain't ever figured out how ol' No? attracts these yappin' little puppies but he shore does pull 'em in...

He always says it's them nasty argyle socks he's got left over from that misspent youth... I'm thinking it's more likely the barrio queso he uses that doubles as parfume...

At any rate they keep a comin' and he keeps a slappin 'em down...

Pretty entertaining on a slow day sometimes...

[JimR]

all i do is attract stalkers. shortstop is just the latest.

[Spider Pellini]

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all i do is attract stalkers. shortstop is just the latest.

Yeah, but I understand why they want a piece of you...

No?'s really a pretty nice fellow...

[Spider Pellini]

You reckon he uses 'shortstop' cause his elevator don't run all the way to the top floor?...

[No? in Austin]

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At least Gallo's use of the plural to comment on his personal flameout is not as bad as Ausmus using "we" to refer to the pitching battery. At least Zan uses "I" to refer to his half of the bitching battery.

It sure sounded like he was sincerely talking about the team moreso than himself.  In a "we'll get over this" manner... and sometimes, yeah... as a teammate, you don't want to get over it, you want to get rid of it... or I or the other part of we... or more succinctly, Mike Gallo.

But that's just my reaction and no one else need apply!

[headhunter]

understand wanting a piece of Jim R? no thanks. the happy pope of austin is all yours.

[headhunter]

its hard to imagine the other 24 guys trying real hard to help gallo escape a medicinal decapitation at the hands of an angry french or Texan mob.

has gallo ever done well? or his he just just sucking with greater consistency?

[HudsonHawk]

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its hard to imagine the other 24 guys trying real hard to help gallo escape a medicinal decapitation at the hands of an angry french or Texan mob.

has gallo ever done well? or his he just just sucking with greater consistency?

Actually, Gallo had his useful moments last year, including the playoffs, in which he made seven appearances and gave up only 1 hit, walked only 1 batter, surrendered 0 runs.  He pitched remarkably well down the stretch last year.

[pravata]

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its hard to imagine the other 24 guys trying real hard to help gallo escape a medicinal decapitation at the hands of an angry french or Texan mob.

has gallo ever done well? or his he just just sucking with greater consistency?

March 14, 2006, Chron
"He pitched well, of course, the year (04) before. And last year (05) I saw some major improvement in him," Garner said. "I thought he calmed down. I thought he came into the game with a real good game plan. I thought he executed his game plans. To me, he matured a lot last year. He seemed more confident on the mound. He pitched in some big situations and he got some outs in some big situations."...

he held the Braves to one hit, a walk and one hit batter over 1 2/3 innings of relief in the 2005 Division Series. He appeared in two games in the 2005 NLCS, retiring the two Cardinals he faced. He appeared in three more games in the World Series, retiring all three Chicago White Sox batters he faced.
The Link

[No? in Austin]

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its hard to imagine the other 24 guys trying real hard to help gallo escape a medicinal decapitation at the hands of an angry french or Texan mob.

Funny how sometimes you just want to throw a teammate under a bus.  It happens and I have no real reason to believe that any of the other 24 really feel harshly towards Mr. Gallo.  But it just made me cringe to hear him talk in terms of everyone when he was the one who just didn't bring his best game to the table.  He just may be incapable to stay on the team with his less than competitive major league game right now.  It happens.

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has gallo ever done well? or his he just just sucking with greater consistency?

You know, after a certain amount of time in the majors, hitters figure you out.  The guys who stick around and have good careers are those who adjust to how hitters have adjusted to you.  Unless you have ungodly stuff (see: Rivera, Mariano), you basically have to adjust.  Gallo has not progressed from his first season in the bigs (IMHO).  He throws basically the same stuff the same way trying to get hitters out the same way.  Too many hitters know what's coming from him.  When he came back to Round Rock last year, he developed an attitude that he was just going to go out there and challenge hitters and not overthink what he needed to do.  He is fooling himself that that little spike in success was indicative of having found it.  It was a false blip.  Hitters adjust to Gallo challenging them and they're ready to swing the bat against him.

And they're hurting him too.

[No? in Austin]

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its hard to imagine the other 24 guys trying real hard to help gallo escape a medicinal decapitation at the hands of an angry french or Texan mob.

has gallo ever done well? or his he just just sucking with greater consistency?

March 14, 2006, Chron
"He pitched well, of course, the year (04) before. And last year (05) I saw some major improvement in him," Garner said. "I thought he calmed down. I thought he came into the game with a real good game plan. I thought he executed his game plans. To me, he matured a lot last year. He seemed more confident on the mound. He pitched in some big situations and he got some outs in some big situations."...

he held the Braves to one hit, a walk and one hit batter over 1 2/3 innings of relief in the 2005 Division Series. He appeared in two games in the 2005 NLCS, retiring the two Cardinals he faced. He appeared in three more games in the World Series, retiring all three Chicago White Sox batters he faced.
The Link

When he was back here in Round Rock, he sulked for a few weeks.  I don't remember who got to him (he mentioned the coach in an interview last year in an Express broadcast), but he basically told him to go up toe mound and pitch with purpose and not with fear.  He also told Gallo that he pitched well when he had a good attitude and was having fun going after guys.  He told Gallo to develop a bulldog, go after them, take no prisoners attitude.

According to Gallo, he tried it the next time out and he got them out 1-2-3.  He did the same thing, challenging hitters rather than trying to fool them, and had three weeks worth of success.  He was called up after about a month of doing this successfully.  He did the same thing for the Astros, taking the mound with purpose and attitude.

But alas, hitters adjust.  They know he's going to challenge and he doesn't throw harder than 88 to 89 mph.  So the best thing to do against him is to be ready to swing the stick.  And now, they're spitting on everything with a wrinkle because they know that is not what Gallo wants to do.  He wants to throw it hard and come after you... so be ready to beat him.

And it's showing up in the way he's getting beat up now.  He can't even execute a simple intentional walk anymore because he's back to overthinking.  Gallo needs to develop an out pitch and for three years now, he has not develop such a pitch.

[pravata]

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its hard to imagine the other 24 guys trying real hard to help gallo escape a medicinal decapitation at the hands of an angry french or Texan mob.

Funny how sometimes you just want to throw a teammate under a bus.  It happens and I have no real reason to believe that any of the other 24 really feel harshly towards Mr. Gallo.  But it just made me cringe to hear him talk in terms of everyone when he was the one who just didn't bring his best game to the table.  He just may be incapable to stay on the team with his less than competitive major league game right now.  It happens.

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has gallo ever done well? or his he just just sucking with greater consistency?

You know, after a certain amount of time in the majors, hitters figure you out.  The guys who stick around and have good careers are those who adjust to how hitters have adjusted to you.  Unless you have ungodly stuff (see: Rivera, Mariano), you basically have to adjust.  Gallo has not progressed from his first season in the bigs (IMHO).  He throws basically the same stuff the same way trying to get hitters out the same way.  Too many hitters know what's coming from him.  When he came back to Round Rock last year, he developed an attitude that he was just going to go out there and challenge hitters and not overthink what he needed to do.  He is fooling himself that that little spike in success was indicative of having found it.  It was a false blip.  Hitters adjust to Gallo challenging them and they're ready to swing the bat against him.

And they're hurting him too.

That he's still with the team suggests to me how reluctant major league teams are to give up on a pitcher.  And how difficult it is to find a pitcher they trust to go out there.

[headhunter]

Maybe Gallo is just preparing to go into deep deep double secret cover as the next "Agent Jones" for the Astros.

nah. your right. its just a false blip and oswald acted alone.

[headhunter]

I remember how long the Astros waited for  Timmah Redding's consistency to show up. I believe Godot showed up first.

Cut Gallow now--its a mercy killing.

[pravata]

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I remember how long the Astros waited for  Timmah Redding's consistency to show up. I believe Godot showed up first.

Cut Gallow now--its a mercy killing.

I'm not sure why people keep saying something like this over and over.  There is no one making the opposite argument.  Milo guessed that there might be a move today or tomorrow.  I don't think the Astros are missing what we've seen.

[Astroholic]

Maybe because there is no game today and they are bored?  

I was done yesterday.

[Gizzmonic]

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I am secure in my role as a Clark. Roster Filler is for the birds. Therefore, I am going to say things that non-clarks can't say, but I believe are compelling:

3) Charlie Palillo is a good sports radio guy, even if 90% of the callers do suck.

There. Embrace the Clarkian uprising.

Charlie Palillo said yesterday that the Astros "have" to include Koby Clemens in their September call ups this year, because that's "Norman Rockwell."  Never mind that it insults every player in your organization who's busting his butt to get to the major leagues, it makes a pretty picture!  Either he's intentionally baiting the stupidest among us, or he IS the stupidest among us.

[Arky Vaughan]

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I'm not sure why people keep saying something like this over and over.  There is no one making the opposite argument.  Milo guessed that there might be a move today or tomorrow.  I don't think the Astros are missing what we've seen.

The thing people can't seem to grasp is that as frustrated as they are with the situation, Garner must be 10 times as frustrated. But unlike a bunch of couch potatoes and Internet surfers, he has to deal with the real-life situation of running a baseball team and telling a guy he's being relieved of his job. I have a hunch that the balls-on-chin commenters, despite their big talk in a chatroom, wouldn't have the guts to deal with what Garner has to deal with face to face.

[Arky Vaughan]

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Charlie Palillo said yesterday that the Astros "have" to include Koby Clemens in their September call ups this year, because that's "Norman Rockwell."  Never mind that it insults every player in your organization who's busting his butt to get to the major leagues, it makes a pretty picture!  Either he's intentionally baiting the stupidest among us, or he IS the stupidest among us.

Some jackass called Tom Franklin last night and said that the Astros, if they make the playoffs, will add Koby to the playoff roster so he and Roger can play together.

Apparently the lead paint regulations have not been enforced as vigilantly as they should be.

[Astroholic]

Clarkie Palillo?  anyone anyone Bueller

[No? in Austin]

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I'm not sure why people keep saying something like this over and over.  There is no one making the opposite argument.  Milo guessed that there might be a move today or tomorrow.  I don't think the Astros are missing what we've seen.

The thing people can't seem to grasp is that as frustrated as they are with the situation, Garner must be 10 times as frustrated. But unlike a bunch of couch potatoes and Internet surfers, he has to deal with the real-life situation of running a baseball team and telling a guy he's being relieved of his job. I have a hunch that the balls-on-chin commenters, despite their big talk in a chatroom, wouldn't have the guts to deal with what Garner has to deal with face to face.

Having done it as an amatuer, I can honestly say it was a-okay with me to tell a guy he just didn't have the stuff to be on the team or even to just plain bench him.  It was horrible for the guy, but not entirely a heartache for me.

You owe it to the whole to deal with the one.

[Arky Vaughan]

Not saying Garner is losing sleep at night about it -- I imagine he's losing more sleep at the results rather than the prospect of having to give Gallo his walking papers. Still, it's got to be a lot less fun to do it live and in person rather than anonymously over the Internet. Gallo surely knows the writing is on the wall anyway. I'm guessing he's felt that way at least since the wild pitch.

[Astroholic]

Probably harder to tell Biggio he was not playing the next day, especially a few years ago.

[No? in Austin]

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Charlie Palillo said yesterday that the Astros "have" to include Koby Clemens in their September call ups this year, because that's "Norman Rockwell."  Never mind that it insults every player in your organization who's busting his butt to get to the major leagues, it makes a pretty picture!  Either he's intentionally baiting the stupidest among us, or he IS the stupidest among us.

Some jackass called Tom Franklin last night and said that the Astros, if they make the playoffs, will add Koby to the playoff roster so he and Roger can play together.

Apparently the lead paint regulations have not been enforced as vigilantly as they should be.

I had a day trip to San Antonio and on the way back to Austin, had the misfortune of catching a guy on national radio (Sporting News Radio).  I think his name was Arnie Spanier or something like that.  Dude was going off on Roger chosing the Astros over his beloved Yankees.  His main rant?

"What kind of message are the Astros giving the other teammates of Roger when they *agree to let him come to only the games he pitches and also not have to travel with the team*!  WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT!  Imagine being... oh, come on... gimme a name of a teammat... ah... ahhhh... ahhhh... whoever... but imagine their reaction!?!?!  The Astros are setting themselves up for problems".

I had to laugh at the idiot.  He really doesn't know that Clemens and the Astros have had this same agreement in place for three years now?  Seriously?  He just now heard about it?

[Astroholic]

He sounds like I was yesterday right after the game. Pissed off and not making a lot of since.

[Astroholic]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot.  I heard "Astros win Big" on 740 this morning.  I started to fume again.

[pravata]

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I am secure in my role as a Clark. Roster Filler is for the birds. Therefore, I am going to say things that non-clarks can't say, but I believe are compelling:

3) Charlie Palillo is a good sports radio guy, even if 90% of the callers do suck.

There. Embrace the Clarkian uprising.

Charlie Palillo said yesterday that the Astros "have" to include Koby Clemens in their September call ups this year, because that's "Norman Rockwell."  Never mind that it insults every player in your organization who's busting his butt to get to the major leagues, it makes a pretty picture!  Either he's intentionally baiting the stupidest among us, or he IS the stupidest among us.

Either it's intentional, he doesn't think anyone knows the rules for options or arbitration and he's playing along with one of the "reasons" the Eastern media thought up for Clemens not signing with one of the legendary teams, (otherwise inexplicable) or he really doesnt understand options and arbitration.  He's a professional, highly, (relatively) paid, sports commentator and he doesn't understand the basic facts of the situation he's commenting on.  Or he thinks his listeners are idiots.  I'm torn on that one.  Calling up Koby in Sept. would ruin his career, Roger should kick Purpura's ass if he does that.

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Charlie Palillo said yesterday that the Astros "have" to include Koby Clemens in their September call ups this year, because that's "Norman Rockwell."  Never mind that it insults every player in your organization who's busting his butt to get to the major leagues, it makes a pretty picture!  Either he's intentionally baiting the stupidest among us, or he IS the stupidest among us.

Some jackass called Tom Franklin last night and said that the Astros, if they make the playoffs, will add Koby to the playoff roster so he and Roger can play together.

Apparently the lead paint regulations have not been enforced as vigilantly as they should be.

I had a day trip to San Antonio and on the way back to Austin, had the misfortune of catching a guy on national radio (Sporting News Radio).  I think his name was Arnie Spanier or something like that.  Dude was going off on Roger chosing the Astros over his beloved Yankees.  His main rant?

"What kind of message are the Astros giving the other teammates of Roger when they *agree to let him come to only the games he pitches and also not have to travel with the team*!  WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT!  Imagine being... oh, come on... gimme a name of a teammat... ah... ahhhh... ahhhh... whoever... but imagine their reaction!?!?!  The Astros are setting themselves up for problems".

I had to laugh at the idiot.  He really doesn't know that Clemens and the Astros have had this same agreement in place for three years now?  Seriously?  He just now heard about it?

Also, he couldn't name another Astro.

[Astroholic]

Thats a shock.

[austro]

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Either he's intentionally baiting the stupidest among us, or he IS the stupidest among us.

"Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in the first half hour at the table, then you ARE the sucker."

Charlie's still looking...

[No? in Austin]

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Also, he couldn't name another Astro.

His producer interrupted his rant with some other news of the day.  When he came back to his rant about Clemens, he finally decided to drop a name of another Astro player.  Roy Ahz-walt.  I kid you not.

Oh and he added a new wrinkle.  He went on to rant about the *amount* of money the Astros were going to pay Clemens.  "Imagine if you're Ahz-walt... hey Roy... how do you like it... Roger is getting 22 million while you make... ahhhh... what does he make... wait... lemme see here... hey Roy... ahh... you make... oh, what the hell... just imagine the jealousy... yeah, yeah... imagine!"

[Spider Pellini]

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Charlie Palillo said yesterday that the Astros "have" to include Koby Clemens in their September call ups this year, because that's "Norman Rockwell."  Never mind that it insults every player in your organization who's busting his butt to get to the major leagues, it makes a pretty picture!  Either he's intentionally baiting the stupidest among us, or he IS the stupidest among us.

You see, the problem I have with this is that I heard the same show and came away with a completely different impression...

To me, the Norman Rockwell reference meant Utopia or in a perfect world...  And I personally think it would be kinda nice IF Koby and Roger could play together on the big stage... Even if I recognize how improbable such an occurance might be this year...

Of course my difference of opinion with you might also be because I also heard Palilo say he recognized and understood the complications brought about by beginning Koby's major league service time early so to speak...

Whatever his other faults, Palilo is not stupid....

[Lefty]

Palillo's been harping on the Astros & their minor leaguers for months now.  Says it's "ridiculous" that Hunter Pence is still in AA.  Was babbling about Patton being in AA *last year*; Zobrist is his newest shiny object:  "I guarantee you he could put up better numbers than Adam Everett *today*"  Constantly bitches about the Stros not promoting players soon enough (all based on their ages & statlines).

He's generally a pretty sharp guy, from what I've heard, but he'd be better off just not talking about the farm systems.

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Also, he couldn't name another Astro.

His producer interrupted his rant with some other news of the day.  When he came back to his rant about Clemens, he finally decided to drop a name of another Astro player.  Roy Ahz-walt.  I kid you not.

Oh and he added a new wrinkle.  He went on to rant about the *amount* of money the Astros were going to pay Clemens.  "Imagine if you're Ahz-walt... hey Roy... how do you like it... Roger is getting 22 million while you make... ahhhh... what does he make... wait... lemme see here... hey Roy... ahh... you make... oh, what the hell... just imagine the jealousy... yeah, yeah... imagine!"

What's Roy got to be jealous about?  He's got a BULL dozer! Does Clemens have a bulldozer?  I don't think so.

[Arky Vaughan]

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What's Roy got to be jealous about?  He's got a BULL dozer! Does Clemens have a bulldozer?  I don't think so.

Clemens probably owns a company that makes bulldozers.

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What's Roy got to be jealous about?  He's got a BULL dozer! Does Clemens have a bulldozer?  I don't think so.

Clemens probably owns a company that makes bulldozers.

Not remotely the same thing.  Roy has a bulldozer with which he bulldozes stuff. Stuff that needs bulldozing. Noding at the plant foreman while counting the money doesn't come close.

[No? in Austin]

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Palillo's been harping on the Astros & their minor leaguers for months now.  Says it's "ridiculous" that Hunter Pence is still in AA.  Was babbling about Patton being in AA *last year*; Zobrist is his newest shiny object:  "I guarantee you he could put up better numbers than Adam Everett *today*"  Constantly bitches about the Stros not promoting players soon enough (all based on their ages & statlines).

He's generally a pretty sharp guy, from what I've heard, but he'd be better off just not talking about the farm systems.

I remember when Mike Hampton choose the Colorado Rockies over all comers and stated that he choose the Rockies for the school districts and other reason.  When Hampton mentioned that the future of the Rockies looked better than Houstons (this was in 2001), he said he didn't think the Astros farm system was going to producer better players than the Rockies.  This was with Roy Oswalt, Carlos Hernandex, Morgan Ensberg, Jason Lane, Keith Ginter, Tim Redding, Wilfredo Rodriquez, Brad Lidge and Chad Qualls all in A Ball or AA Ball.

I remember calling Palillo when he was over at Sports610 to take to task what Hampton was saying about Houston's minor leagues.  Namely, because Charlie took up the mantra and blasted the Astros for their weak AAA club in New Orleans.  I mentioned to Palillo that AAA is not the entirety of a farm system and specifically pointed to Roy Oswalt as a good example of a player to watch who was an Olympian and just completed his first year at AA.  Palillo screams into the phone "You're talking about AA guys, most of them don't make the majors... only the AAA guys matter!".  I say "huh? Why is that?".  He told me it would generally take Oswalt... I kid you not... four more years to make it to the big club.

"I don't think so.." says I.

"Well then, you're just doing some wishful thinking and are mad at Hampton because he's pointing out the obvious." replies Palillo.

"Actually, no I'm not mad at Mike Hampton.  I just think he had no idea about what Houston farm system looks like or the promise therein.  And to dismiss a player below AAA is a weird way to discount a player too.  Mark my words, Roy Oswalt will be a star in this game soon enough while Hampton will be wanting to find a way out of Colorado much like Daryl Kile did."

"We shall see who is correct, but I am sticking with Hampton on this one... the Astros farm system is weak and will not produce anything for them to stay competitive for an extended period of time.  Anything else?" he says.

"Yeah, your observation on the AAA club is okay, but you fail to mention that most of what would be the makeup of a strong AAA club is up with the Astros right now.  Lance Berkman, Daryle Ward, Russ Johnson... all of them, thus the AAA club suffers because of it." I reply.

We ended it there, and he dared me to call him back in five years (which would've been last year) to see if he or I was correct about Roy Oswalt and the farm system in general.  I remembered all these years, but decided not to call because it is a "mute" point to do so.

(One day I should tell you about my conversation about Brad Lidge with Palillo and Lord one afternoon.  It was really interesting how little they knew about him other than an injury report two years prior to that conversation and thus they had a very pointed opinion about Lidge even being a major leaguer.)

[No? in Austin]

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What's Roy got to be jealous about?  He's got a BULL dozer! Does Clemens have a bulldozer?  I don't think so.

Clemens probably owns a company that makes bulldozers.

Not remotely the same thing.  Roy has a bulldozer with which he bulldozes stuff. Stuff that needs bulldozing. Noding at the plant foreman while counting the money doesn't come close.

So Arnie Spanier had it wrong, it is Clemens who is jealous and perhaps this is all a ploy for Clemens to get a burnt orange dozer of his own?  Wow, that is plausible... nay... that is the truth wrapped in a riddle covered by an enigma.

You da maign!

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What's Roy got to be jealous about?  He's got a BULL dozer! Does Clemens have a bulldozer?  I don't think so.

Clemens probably owns a company that makes bulldozers.

Not remotely the same thing.  Roy has a bulldozer with which he bulldozes stuff. Stuff that needs bulldozing. Noding at the plant foreman while counting the money doesn't come close.

So Arnie Spanier had it wrong, it is Clemens who is jealous and perhaps this is all a ploy for Clemens to get a burnt orange dozer of his own?  Wow, that is plausible... nay... that is the truth wrapped in a riddle covered by an enigma.

You da maign!

Clemens wishes.  It's one thing to have a bulldozer.  Whole other deal to have a place that needs it, and where you enjoy using it.  I'm telling you, that equipment is going to have Oswalt & Son stenciled on it pretty soon. Oswalt, jealous, wow.

[CJM]

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Palillo's been harping on the Astros & their minor leaguers for months now.  Says it's "ridiculous" that Hunter Pence is still in AA.  Was babbling about Patton being in AA *last year*; Zobrist is his newest shiny object:  "I guarantee you he could put up better numbers than Adam Everett *today*"  Constantly bitches about the Stros not promoting players soon enough (all based on their ages & statlines).

He's generally a pretty sharp guy, from what I've heard, but he'd be better off just not talking about the farm systems.

He's a idiot.  

Last Sept. he said Chris Burke could be the starting SS for more than half of all major league teams.  He said the difference between a major league 2nd baseman and SS isn't much.  I think he's actually passed Rich Lord on the idiot meter, and that's no small task.

[austro]

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Clemens wishes.  It's one thing to have a bulldozer.  Whole other deal to have a place that needs it, and where you enjoy using it.

I-10?

[Arky Vaughan]

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Not remotely the same thing.  Roy has a bulldozer with which he bulldozes stuff. Stuff that needs bulldozing. Noding at the plant foreman while counting the money doesn't come close.

By all means do I agree that Roy will far more enjoy riding his bulldozer off into the sunset when he retires than Clemens will enjoy being surrounded by stacks of money while issuing cryptic quotes in 2012 about making a comeback at 50 just to draw attention to himself.

[EasTexAstro]

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Clemens wishes.  It's one thing to have a bulldozer.  Whole other deal to have a place that needs it, and where you enjoy using it.

I-10?

Sweet.

And I only visit about once a year. I couldn't think of a better spot....except for my driveway.

[Zan]

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you know, you work perhaps hardest of all to be dumb. the Gallo decision was discussed here thoroughly yesterday. Garner had no other options during that inning. if you feel like you are way too smart to learn from us, then you could learn from what Garner said about the decision. but, no--you just post this nonsense.

I usually watch the games, but I didn't catch that one. I trust your opinion on what transpired.

[Zan]

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Maybe there should be a sub-class of Clark called Gallo.

HILARIOUS!! I like it.

[Zan]

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you are a fucking idiot

Well, I am in the bottom 3% of all IQ's in America.

[Zan]

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By all means do I agree that Roy will far more enjoy riding his bulldozer off into the sunset when he retires than Clemens will enjoy being surrounded by stacks of money while issuing cryptic quotes in 2012 about making a comeback at 50 just to draw attention to himself.

Classic!

[pravata]

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you know, you work perhaps hardest of all to be dumb. the Gallo decision was discussed here thoroughly yesterday. Garner had no other options during that inning. if you feel like you are way too smart to learn from us, then you could learn from what Garner said about the decision. but, no--you just post this nonsense.

I usually watch the games, but I didn't catch that one. I trust your opinion on what transpired.

It's not an opinion.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

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you are a fucking idiot

Well, I am in the bottom 3% of all IQ's in America.

There's a relationship, then there's not. I've seen some retards do some smart things and some geniuses do some really stupid stuff. But mostly it's the other way around.

[VirtualBob]

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Dave Clark was a major league ballplayer who had some very good years. to me, Clark is not synonymous with your kind of stupid. you are a fucking idiot, and the moderators should create a FI label for dumbasses like you.

I really like this idea of a moderator-assigned label.  I would suggest, however, that we stick with the major-league ballplayer theme.  Two candidates I would offer up:

Piersall ... After Jimmy whose career ratio of on-field-fights-per-game nearly matched his OPS.

Canseco ... After arguably the most publicly stupid ballplayer in recent memory.

Of course, if we could find someone who combines combativeness with public display of ignorance, that would be even better.

[austro]

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Of course, if we could find someone who combines combativeness with public display of ignorance, that would be even better.

Michael Barrett.

[VirtualBob]

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Of course, if we could find someone who combines combativeness with public display of ignorance, that would be even better.

Michael Barrett.

Nope.  No consistency.  No real track record.  Maybe a candidate down the road if he can keep this up for a full career.

[geezerdonk]

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Canseco ... After arguably the most publicly stupid ballplayer in recent memory.

If so, Ricky Henderson is a real close second.