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drew corleone

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Seems Gar is still optimistic
« on: May 31, 2006, 10:39:23 am »
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"We are on the verge of exploding," Garner said. "We are getting ready to see a run like you've never seen before. This team is getting ready to take off, baby. The calm before the storm. Hurricane season is getting ready to hit. A torrent of hits and runs and steals and all kinds of things are getting ready to take off."



Maybe the calm he referred to was the six innings of blah yesterday before the incredible storm in the 7th.
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Re: Seems Gar is still optimistic
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2006, 10:47:57 am »
You're complaining about last night's game?

Stupid blah 6-3 win.
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Re: Seems Gar is still optimistic
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2006, 11:00:52 am »
hey, some people have high standards and demand excellence (from others) at ALL times.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2006, 11:19:29 am »
its kinda like a race and doesnt matter how far behind you are .. its who at the end of nine innings has the biggest score...its nice to see them play and come back and win in late innings and to me a win is a win well you know.
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Re: Seems Gar is still optimistic
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2006, 11:29:17 am »
A couple of things:

I don't remember seeing Garner more concerned/pissed/focused/whatever than he did last night. He had a real determined look the whole game, reminded me of the old SCRAP IRON.

Willie T.-looked strong last night in CF made a great running catch on a line drive to rcf (even more important got a great jump)and then made a real good play cutting off another ball in the gap and holding CoArd to a single.

Morgan -good solid play at 3rd...

Ausmus- as good as he is defensively, he isn't strong on tag plays or blocking the plate. The Ensberg play the ball beat the runner by a bunch and the guy should have been out by a mile, but if you look at the replay he damn near snuck his foot in there before the (high) tag.
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Re: Seems Gar is still optimistic
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2006, 03:12:46 pm »
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You're complaining about last night's game?

Stupid blah 6-3 win.



No, I was referring to how JD was saying how a team can look flat for part of a game and then they put together a rally and the boxscore suggests otherwise. Should have put "blah" in quotes. My mistake.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2006, 03:29:02 pm »
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A couple of things:

I don't remember seeing Garner more concerned/pissed/focused/whatever than he did last night. He had a real determined look the whole game, reminded me of the old SCRAP IRON.

Willie T.-looked strong last night in CF made a great running catch on a line drive to rcf (even more important got a great jump)and then made a real good play cutting off another ball in the gap and holding CoArd to a single.

Morgan -good solid play at 3rd...

Ausmus- as good as he is defensively, he isn't strong on tag plays or blocking the plate. The Ensberg play the ball beat the runner by a bunch and the guy should have been out by a mile, but if you look at the replay he damn near snuck his foot in there before the (high) tag.



So he needs to block the plate with a 3 run lead?
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2006, 03:31:14 pm »
He never blocks the plate.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2006, 03:34:22 pm »
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He never blocks the plate.



Pujols was still out by a mile.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2006, 03:36:16 pm »
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He never blocks the plate.



Pujols was still out by a mile.



If the ball beats you to the bag, generally speaking, an umpire with look to see if it's blatanly obvious you missed the tag.  A close play with the ball beating you to the bag is almost 99.99% an out.

Nobody will generally argue the point either.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2006, 03:36:25 pm »
Didn't see the play. Just saying the argument that Brad doesn't block the plate is pretty solid whether or not he should have that particular time.
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2006, 03:38:10 pm »
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Didn't see the play. Just saying the argument that Brad doesn't block the plate is pretty solid whether or not he should have that particular time.



True.  He does't block the plate.  That's a pet peeve of mine with him.  Still, the idea that it almost cost the Astros last night is ridiculous.  The play wasn't even close.
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2006, 03:40:45 pm »
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Didn't see the play. Just saying the argument that Brad doesn't block the plate is pretty solid whether or not he should have that particular time.



Blocking the plate is part of the job of a catcher, however, it isn't the first thing you look to do.  First thing you look to do is secure an out with a good solid tag.  There is no reason to put yourself in harms way if you've got the ball waiting for the runner.  In fact, if you have the ball and then jump into the path of a runner to get an out, you're asking for trouble.  And a lot of pain.

The best thing to do is inflict the pain on the runner rather than have them bury a shoulder into your sternum.  Not to mention the concussion that you'll get, plus whiplash, when you fall backwards into the turf.  I'd rather catch the ball, get a feel for the runner's progress and then go forward a little to have momentum on my side to stick the guy with a tag.  A hard tag too, like slapping on the face if he's already going towards a shoulder shimy on me.
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