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An American Baseball Fan in London
« on: May 10, 2006, 02:28:47 pm »
At the end of the month I will officially be a Central Londoner.  

Hopefully, I can find a place that might broadcast the occasional Sunday afternoon game as I don?t see myself staying up past midnight for webcasts of the EAST coast games.  Let alone home games and the dreaded west coast trips.

Reading game caps and looking through box scores just aren?t the same.  

Anyone have experiences with watching ?live? baseball overseas??  Anyone??  Anyone??  Limey??  Bueller??

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Re: An American Baseball Fan in London
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2006, 02:33:47 pm »
Congrats.  I'd kill to live in London.  I used to live in Egypt but that was back in '99, pre-webcasts.  I always listened to Milo on the day games.  If you have enough restraint, you can hold back from checking the boxscore and watch the archived broadcast from that day.

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Re: An American Baseball Fan in London
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2006, 02:46:40 pm »
I just got back from visiting my dad over in China and I was able to watch every Astro game over the internet.

The way i was able to watch the games was using this thing called a sling box.  The Link

Check out the link to get all the details.  Basically my dad hooked this sling box up to his Cable/Computer here in Texas and is now able to watch the same channels over the internet in China.  

Another option is MLB.TV.  My dad used this last season when he didn't have the sling box.  He was able to watch all the games using MLB.TV even the ones that were blacked out.
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Re: An American Baseball Fan in London
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2006, 03:08:56 pm »
I have the Sony equivalent of a slingbox.  I use it daily.  As a matter of fact, I am watching Judge Joe Brown in my office right now through the signal from my cable at home.  Works like a charm.
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Re: An American Baseball Fan in London
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2006, 03:28:05 pm »
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I have the Sony equivalent of a slingbox.  I use it daily.  As a matter of fact, I am watching Judge Joe Brown in my office right now through the signal from my cable at home.  Works like a charm.




Had a friend that just moved home from Moscow.  He said that there is a UK based "North American Sports Channel" or something like that which worked for him okay.  He was on the way to getting a slingbox before he was transf. back.

Interestingly, he was a CWS fan, so we set up the iSight and watched the WS games at the same time.  Believe it or not, he actually saw the action before I did.  I guess the delay on US TV is longer than the transit time of the waves to Russia.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2006, 03:46:08 pm »
One place to try in London if you like Indian food is a place called Mela.  Food is just short of great & atmosphere is fantastic for an average price (~20 pounds/person).  Don't count of fast service, but it will be good service.
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Re: An American Baseball Fan in London
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2006, 03:52:52 pm »
Congrats. Most of my family lives in London and they seem to love it there. Unfortanutely you'll have to listen to Milo more so than watching the Astros on Tv. Hope all is well, enjoy your new life in London.

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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2006, 04:18:37 pm »
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One place to try in London if you like Indian food is a place called Mela.  Food is just short of great & atmosphere is fantastic for an average price (~20 pounds/person).  Don't count of fast service, but it will be good service.



Indian food (commonly referred to simply as "curry" or "ruby") is the ubiquitous drunk food.  Service is always slow/sloppy on purpose, to enable the punters to be rude to the waitstaff.  Be sure to endear yourself by ordering multiple pints of lager each if they are shutting the bar.   They love it.  All waiters will respond to "Oi!".  The condiment selection is known as "the wheel of shit".  

If the curry house is closed, then it is off to the kebab shop for a doner (gyro, to you) or a shish (chunks of "fresh" meat grilled to order as opposed to the doner meat which is slices carved from the large, torpedo-shaped hunk of processed meat that has been on a spit and partially cooked numerous times over many, many days).  Watch out for the salad which is normally discarded around the doorstep of the kebab shop and the surrounding area.  The salad has a bad reputation for giving one "the squits", despite the fact that you've had 10 pints and just eaten meat that is made up almost entirely of botulinum toxin.  There may also be a "pavement pizza" nearby too.  Plenty of hot sauce may be a tempting option at the time, but there is a sting in its (your) tail.

The liquor store is the "off license" or simply "offie".

To attract the attention of your bartender, simply hold up a note of some denomination.  London is the most expensive city on the planet, so don't expect much/any change.  Do not tip your bartender, buy him/her a drink every once in a while.  It is perfectly acceptable to pay with exact change - especially as coins can be worth up to $4.  When you've had a "big one", you will open your wallet the next morning and think you're broke, before you realise that you have approximately 100 "quid" in coins in your trouser pocket.  Drinks are bought in rounds, sometimes you win - sometimes you lose, but if you get a reputation for shirking your "shout", it will be almost impossible to undo.  If you have to skip out early before standing your round, you can pre-pay for the next one before anyone's ready - this is called "leaving one in the wood".
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2006, 04:30:48 pm »
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Re: An American Baseball Fan in London
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2006, 04:32:06 pm »
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Had a friend that just moved home from Moscow.  He said that there is a UK based "North American Sports Channel" or something like that which worked for him okay.




See... That's what I wanted to hear.  (not that the rules of proper etiquette aren't appreciated)

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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2006, 06:37:11 pm »
I lived in London from March 2003 until March 2005.  North American Sports Channel is the only cable/satellite alternative --it's not that great and it's quite expensive.  I found it disappointing because NASN tends to show only the events it thinks have the widest appeal (e.g., Notre Dame football trumps everything).  As an Astros fan, I never counted on games being on NASN.  

There is one, yes ONE, American style sports bar in central london.  It's near Trafalgar Square and it's called The Sports Cafe.  They try to combine "sports bar" and "hooters" and, believe it or not, there's a good chance you'll walk away wishing that the waitresses were wearing more clothes.  The crowd is almost entirely Americans.  During the 2004 playoffs, I tried like hell to find another bar to watch the games but was unsuccessful.  There are many other pubs and bars that show football matches and promote that they will show American sports, but that is a bit of a pipe dream...(as it should) local taste prevails.

One benefit to being overseas is that if you sign up for MLB.com, you can watch playoff games over the internet, as well as regular season ones.  During 2004, that was my lifeblood.  

Only the World Series is televised on "regular" English TV.  The Super Bowl is as well.  At curious times (not just due to time changes) NHL and NBA games seem to pop up here and there.

If you're not already into "football" or rugby, London is a great place to get excited about those sports.  Unlike an American city, London may have 4 or 5 "major" league teams playing and tickets are reasonably easy to obtain (except for the rival games, of course).

Enjoy, and be glad you're going abroad during an age where broadband access is readily available. I lived in France in 1994 (with no internet access) and my only lifeline was two-day-old Astros scores via the European edition of USA Today.

Also, you are very fortunate to be there during a World Cup summer.  It's unreal how the entire country is transfixed.  For Euro 2004, the last match England played was watched by something like 2/3 of the entire English population.  Very cool.

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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2006, 07:03:47 pm »
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Also, you are very fortunate to be there during a World Cup summer.  It's unreal how the entire country is transfixed.  For Euro 2004, the last match England played was watched by something like 2/3 of the entire English population.  Very cool.



In that game, young phenom Wayne Rooney broke his foot.  England's hopes of a win limped off the pitch with him, regardless of whether we got totally butt-fucked by the ref. denying a perfectly good winner with 1 minute left on the clock.

With the World Cup looming large, Wayne Rooney has, once again, broken his foot.  Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2006, 08:15:57 am »
NASN is part of Setanta now, you pay ?14.95 per month over and above whatever you pay for Sky or cable (our Sky bill is ?34/month plus NASN, but we have all the sports channels).  Their adverts say they'll be broadcasting something like 250 MLB games this summer, and so far they seem to have 3 or 4 a week, including a Sunday evening double header.  The Astros have been on twice, once against the Nats, and once against the 3rdinals.  They broadcast live, but they also replay the games 'as live', meaning in full, the next day at more hospitable hours.  Channel 5, a terrestrial station, also does one or two games a week.  IIRC, they show the ESPN Sunday night game, and 1 on Wednesday (I think), but those are on at 1 or 2 am.  
If you sign up for NASN, you'll also get Setanta Sports 1 and 2 and Setanta Ireland, plus the Rangers and Celtic channels.  Setanta is great for watching Irish sports, like hurling and Gaelic football.
And Limey's right--everything is incredibly expensive in London, and you end up with pounds (no pun intended) of change;  imagine instead of a $1 bill you had a $1 coin.

Happy to help with any questions on living here, from an American point of view!  It's great here, you'll love it.

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2006, 08:20:53 am »
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In that game, young phenom Wayne Rooney broke his foot.  England's hopes of a win limped off the pitch with him, regardless of whether we got totally butt-fucked by the ref. denying a perfectly good winner with 1 minute left on the clock.

With the World Cup looming large, Wayne Rooney has, once again, broken his foot.  Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.





Yeah, the whole country is pretty depressed about it, and in shock at the fact that Sven named a sub who's 17 and has never played above first division.
There was an article in the Standard saying England should pull out and let Denmark take their spot.

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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2006, 09:43:26 am »
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Yeah, the whole country is pretty depressed about it, and in shock at the fact that Sven named a sub who's 17 and has never played above first division.
There was an article in the Standard saying England should pull out and let Denmark take their spot.




First off: Fuck Denmark.

I've seen some positive words about Sven finally gambling on young talent, but Walcott's zero Premiership experience and 5 goals as a professional has me confused.  WTF?  It's just so frustrating that the England squad has an embarrassment of riches in defense and midfield, but is thin on the ground upfront even before the two first-choice strikers broke a foot each.

A least Crystal Palace went down swinging, in the literal, not figurative sense.
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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2006, 10:53:33 am »
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...A least Crystal Palace went down swinging, in the literal, not figurative sense.




Are those the little steamed hamburger concoctions I've seen on TV?

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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2006, 11:13:01 am »
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Are those the little steamed hamburger concoctions I've seen on TV?



I have no idea what you're talking about.  What I was talking about was the "handbags" that broke out in the 2nd leg of Palace's play-off vs. Watford.
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2006, 11:20:55 am »
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Are those the little steamed hamburger concoctions I've seen on TV?



I have no idea what you're talking about.  What I was talking about was the "handbags" that broke out in the 2nd leg of Palace's play-off vs. Watford.





Poor attempt at humor on my part.  I was referring to those disgusting White Castle aberrations.

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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2006, 11:34:07 am »
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Poor attempt at humor on my part.  I was referring to those disgusting White Castle aberrations.



Are you sure you're not still confusing this with "White Palace" which featured James Spader and Susan Saranden's top floppers?
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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2006, 11:41:58 am »
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Are you sure you're not still confusing this with "White Palace" which featured James Spader and Susan Saranden's top floppers?




I think you're thinking of "White Shadow".  That late 70's TV show with the cool clothes.

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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2006, 11:46:58 am »
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I think you're thinking of "White Shadow".  That late 70's TV show with the cool clothes.



No.  I think you think that I'm thinking of The Clash's "White Riot".
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2006, 11:57:54 am »
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No.  I think you think that I'm thinking of The Clash's "White Riot".




I thought White Zombie did that originally.

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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2006, 12:15:18 pm »
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I thought White Zombie did that originally.



No.  They did the original of "White Christmas".
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« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2006, 12:33:14 pm »
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No.  They did the original of "White Christmas".




Which was on the soundtrack for "White Men Can't Jump", right?

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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2006, 12:44:01 pm »
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Which was on the soundtrack for "White Men Can't Jump", right?



..and also "White Squall".
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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2006, 12:49:49 pm »
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..and also "White Squall".




Sure it wasn't "White Noise"?

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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2006, 12:12:49 pm »
There's also a list on the NASN site of bars and hotels that carry the channel: The Link

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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2006, 08:30:16 pm »
Speaking of turning white, international sport, and the world cup, did anyone else notice this picture in today's chronicle?

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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2006, 09:19:00 pm »
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Speaking of turning white, international sport, and the world cup, did anyone else notice this picture in today's chronicle?

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A colleague of mine was on a business trip to Mexico.  At dinner, his host ordered the special which was delivered with great fanfare by the waitstaff.  They lifted the lid off the platter and there, on a bed of rice were two huge clumps of meat with some flesh attached.

"What on earth is that?" asked my colleage.

The waiter explained "Senor.  These are the testicles of the bull that fought in the ring this afternoon.  He was a valiant bull, and his testicles are said to contain his fighting spirit.  Whoever eats them shall have the strength of the bull!"

On his next trip there my colleague vowed to try the special.  At that same restaurant he put in his order and waited expectantly for his dish.  The waitstaff arrived and went through their ritual before uncovering the food with a flourish.  Huh?  Sitting on the rice wasn't two large balls, but rather two smallish, pale ones.

"What's this?" my colleague asked.

"Senor!  Sometimes, the bull wins."
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