Author Topic: Kip Wells blood clot, may miss entire season (Read 14016 times)

Bench · « **on:** February 26, 2006, 04:53:15 pm »

Bad news for the Houston native. He was diagnosed with 100% blockage of an artery. If he has the recommended surgery, he'll be out 5-8 months.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #1 on:** February 26, 2006, 04:57:21 pm »

Hate to say it, but you gotta wonder whats causing clots in a 28 year old.

Bench · « **Reply #2 on:** February 26, 2006, 05:52:49 pm »

Quote:

Hate to say it, but you gotta wonder whats causing clots in a 28 year old.

Too many pierogis?

Maybe he loaded up on Vioxx before the FDA pulled it?

It's actually not that uncommon in the grand scheme of things. Nobody's health is guaranteed, despite how healthy one's lifestyle is.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #6 on:** February 27, 2006, 02:01:48 am »

The chance of an average person getting clots under 40 (much less under 30) is greater than 1 in 10,000 (n.b. there are about 800 people in big leagues - that means there is only a 7.7 percent chance that ANY major leaguer would have a clot problem if they were "average").

Andyzipp · « **Reply #9 on:** February 27, 2006, 10:15:12 am »

All athletes are stupid and evil.

Thank the deity for those that can hit a baseball.

BUWebguy · « **Reply #10 on:** February 27, 2006, 11:45:55 am »

Didn't a clot lead to JR Richard's stroke? What was his medical history?

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #14 on:** February 27, 2006, 12:33:48 pm »

Because its horrible that the game has been tainted such that it's the first thing I thought of?

Andyzipp · « **Reply #17 on:** February 27, 2006, 12:41:23 pm »

Probably a bad example. Though never confirmed, it was rumored he had a pretty large cocaine habit.

FWIW, Richard denies it.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #19 on:** February 27, 2006, 12:45:45 pm »

Usually things don't taint themselves, p, so I don't see how I implied it's the game's fault.

I don't know what your link was supposed to show. I don't recall Kip being overweight or pregnant. The article did not mention factor V leiden being a factor in his case, but it could be.

DVT Incidence

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #23 on:** February 27, 2006, 12:55:14 pm »

Explain how I'm crabbing?

BudGirl's explanation is much more plausible. That doesn't change what I thought when it happened or any of the numbers I put up.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #26 on:** February 27, 2006, 01:10:01 pm »

No, I think it's plausible that it has to do with the repeated pitching motion. The genes angle doesn't refute the extraordinary unlikeliness.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #28 on:** February 27, 2006, 01:21:40 pm »

In conclusion,

I feel better about sports now

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #34 on:** February 27, 2006, 01:46:39 pm »

Apparently we don't believe in probability here either.

I'd be happy to organize a TZ casino night.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #37 on:** February 27, 2006, 01:55:41 pm »

I promise I wanted to be done with this.

It is not unfounded to think that if something that is on the surface extremely unlikely happens then there should be some outside explanation.

That doesn't mean, in general, people do something wrong when they get sick. Also, it does seem to have turned out that there is such an explanation in this case (although it is probably him being a pitcher rather than him being on steroids, as I inappropriately accused him).

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #38 on:** February 27, 2006, 02:02:36 pm »

I'm glad you fucked that post up. It made it that much easier to not read it.

strosrays · « **Reply #40 on:** February 27, 2006, 02:39:43 pm »

Perhaps this can made into a template and put in the FAQs.

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At this point, you can quit in indignant exasperation, or put in a go loop here and start the thing all over again. Either way, congratulations! You are now an OWA troll.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #43 on:** February 27, 2006, 03:10:08 pm »

Tophar, you are a moron.

As you said, the chance of winning the grand prize is 1 in 146,107,962. That is the same as saying that the chance of an individual person not winning is .999999993155746. Now consider how many powerball tickets are purchased each time. I couldn't find how many played, but last week 457,591 won some prize. The odds of winning some prize (as you wrongly point out) is 1 in 36.61. Thus, we can assume roughly 16.75 million people played (I used 18 million last time - I'm assuming that its probably within this range).

Thus, the chance of no one winning any given week is given by (.999999993155746)^16500000, or .893. Thus, there is a 10.7 percent chance of someone winning (again, the difference is from using 16.5M instead of 18M).

This is the last free lesson you get tophar - the going rate for tutoring out here is about 90 an hour.

EDIT: It seems that the chance is probably even higher, given that about 13 people win each year I'm assuming that significantly more than 18 million people play, on average (probably closer to 50 million).

JimR · « **Reply #44 on:** February 27, 2006, 03:26:11 pm »

what an arrogant little twerp you are. i hope Daddy's Money is enough to get you to retirement.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #45 on:** February 27, 2006, 03:27:01 pm »

Oh fuckoff. first, you calling anyone arrogant is sublime. Second, telling someone they don't understand something based on your own idiocy deserves it.

JimR · « **Reply #46 on:** February 27, 2006, 03:46:27 pm »

Daddy's Little Boy has a trashy mouth too.

don't think i posted anything about what you don't understand. it would take far too long to cover that topic.

JimR · « **Reply #48 on:** February 27, 2006, 03:51:15 pm »

you have not been following the story, prick. oh, i should have said racist prick, i guess.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #49 on:** February 27, 2006, 03:53:15 pm »

What is racist about someone scoring well below the literacy barrier (questionable second test notwithstanding).

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #51 on:** February 27, 2006, 03:58:38 pm »

No part of anything I said is even particularly controversial (there has been vague talk about problems in the test, but the prevailing problem just seems to be that only the highest score is supposed to be reported).

JimR · « **Reply #52 on:** February 27, 2006, 04:05:18 pm »

what a ridiculous little baby you are. just an insufferable, arrogant boy of privilege.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #54 on:** February 27, 2006, 04:09:01 pm »

No, I like UT in general. It's just their policy towards athletics which is unsettling.

Even after Casserly's statements, two team executives said they weren't willing to believe Young's score was incorrect, standing by the initial information that was given them.

The Link

Several team sources confirmed the low score Sunday,

The Link

Also if the test was mis-scored, why did he get a special do-over with the director of scouting (as per the Houston Chronicle report). Why not just grade it correctly?

Also, why has no one explained what went wrong, besides the result being prematurely released?

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #57 on:** February 27, 2006, 04:24:16 pm »

I certainly have no agenda regarding UT. In fact, I come from a thoroughly UT background.

JimR · « **Reply #59 on:** February 27, 2006, 04:26:07 pm »

your agenda is that you are a spoiled little boy who thinks that being born rich makes you better than everyone else.

you are an insufferable, arrogant jerk.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #60 on:** February 27, 2006, 04:27:14 pm »

whats amazing to me is how you justify an illiterate person passing a college class by calling me arrogant.

drew corleone · « **Reply #63 on:** February 27, 2006, 04:40:01 pm »

Vince Young is not fucking illiterate.

JimR · « **Reply #64 on:** February 27, 2006, 04:47:15 pm »

no one on the UT football team, including Young, is illiterate. your smugness is insufferable, and you are fighting to be recognized as the biggest jackass to ever post on the TZ.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #65 on:** February 27, 2006, 04:56:33 pm »

Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., says, "A score of 10 is literacy, that's about all we can say."

The Link

I'm done.

JimR · « **Reply #66 on:** February 27, 2006, 05:05:25 pm »

you are not done being a spoiled little prick. you'll be that your entire life.

Andyzipp · « **Reply #68 on:** February 27, 2006, 05:11:11 pm »

Part of me wants to get a hold of Spack and nuke this fuckin' thread.

And part of me is enjoying it too much.

What to do, what to do...?

NeilT · « **Reply #69 on:** February 27, 2006, 05:20:53 pm »

Ok, ok, I took that test. I got a 3. No wait.

I missed 5 of the 15. Giving myself 5 minutes, I didn't have time to complete 3 (numbers 11, 13, and 15). I got 10 wrong because I didn't see the . in front of .33 (so I put .

. But I missed number 4 because I didn't notice Neiman and Nieman. No wonder my kid's dyslexic.

I think it was because Wells was a pirate, and after all that rapin' and murderin' and stuff that pirates do--and all of us who have read Tom Sawyer and BD know all about that--it was divine retribution. Tough luck for Wells. The Pirates actually look reasonably reasonable this year.

JimR · « **Reply #70 on:** February 27, 2006, 05:23:09 pm »

leave it up. you are having lots of new members register just to bash the arrogant little prick.

Foghorn · « **Reply #71 on:** February 27, 2006, 05:32:56 pm »

Keep this fucker alive.

Stros-rays is making a case for being Foggy's Favorite Poster (FFP). For the longest time, Breedlove was FFP but he seemingly has vanished into the bandwidth. Not too long after that Jane Doe made her presence felt, and well gee, how can you NOT have her as FFP. But truth be told, stros-rays deserves the title of FFP. He's been bringing it strong, real fucking strong, for 2 or 3 years now.

Andyzipp · « **Reply #72 on:** February 27, 2006, 05:37:33 pm »

And I thought I was your favorite. Who's gonna cuddle me during those cool spring nights now.

I feel dirty.

JimR · « **Reply #74 on:** February 27, 2006, 05:39:18 pm »

Spoiled Little Boy has done it twice in the same thread.

WulawHorn · « **Reply #75 on:** February 27, 2006, 05:40:14 pm »

It's amazing to me that it can be reported all over the fucking internet that VY never made a 6 on the test, and yet aggies and dipshits claim that the backpeddling is a UT conspiracy. Lance Z is on record on Hornfans as saying that the leak was done before the results were even in, and the leaking individual was fired. John McClain also was on this morning saying that the 6 was in no way accurate, and Charlie Casserly, who isn't drafting VY and would like some justification with fans not to do so, is on record as saying that the report of a 6 was not right. Additionally, one entire group had to retake the test (I think VY's) so that would say to me that perhaps they weren't given a proper amount of time or some such.

A 16 ain't great, but it ain't illiterate either. It is slightly below average (literacy being defined as 10, the NFL combine average at 19, and the national average at 20).

I probably know people that are in the top 3% of intelligence that would miss a couple of questions like Neil talked about b/c they didn't see a decimal point, or b/c they see something dyslexified (i.e. the Nieman vs Neiman example). When you are trying to answer 50 questions in 12 minutes there is a big time time crunch issue involved, and sometimes stupid shit like that referenced leads to misses as well.

I'm fine with VY being the face of my institution any day of the week. The guy is a truly special athlete, and seemingly a truly special individual from all I have seen and heard about him, even if he measures out at slightly below average on an intelligence test.

JimR · « **Reply #79 on:** February 27, 2006, 06:16:19 pm »

Major T, i really think you are posting on the wrong board. perhaps ACLU.com has a message board.

strosrays · « **Reply #91 on:** February 28, 2006, 02:28:30 pm »

Anyway, Foghorn, I am deeply honored, really. And, like you, I am somewhat in awe of Jane Doe. You or I or Andy Zipp or whomever may bring it, but Jane Doe brings it (whole new deinition.) No comparison.

Also, I'd like to cite Bench for having the first and probably best answer as to what may have caused Wells' clot -- piroges. Of course! In Pittsburgh, piroges and a slice of kolache (the fruit and/or nut roll kind, not the weenie-in-a-biscuit kind) are a breakfast staple. Piroges. Potato piroges, just like my old Czech grandma from the Mon Valley used to make 'em. Cooked up in a skillet with butter and onions and a pinch (clove and a half) of garlic, mmmmmm. Eat three or four of those in the morning, and you can actually feel the plaque locking into place. Nothing better.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #94 on:** March 01, 2006, 06:05:59 pm »

And I said that's what I thought it was and was wrong not to think of it in the first place.

Author Topic: Kip Wells blood clot, may miss entire season (Read 14016 times)

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