Author Topic: Bagwell & Manny (Read 14817 times)

Sambito · « **on:** January 13, 2006, 06:20:40 pm »

I suspect I will take some heat on this one, but the 17 million due Bags and the 20 million option year for Manny in 2008 or 09 seem to be commensurate (even though Manny has three to four years left on his contract)- See Jasonact's thread on how much is due Manny.

Nevertheless, Bags is my all-time favorite stro but! That said Manny wants out, Jeff wants to play, Tim wants another bat or pitcher, Boston is all over the place with older vets like Loretta, Lowell etc. There has to be a deal for these guys that is win-win-win.

I still love Bags!

Foghorn · « **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2006, 06:32:42 pm »

Quote:

I suspect I will take some heat on this one, but the 17 million due Bags and the 20 million option year for Manny in 2008 or 09 seem to be commensurate (even though Manny has three to four years left on his contract)- See Jasonact's thread on how much is due Manny.

Nevertheless, Bags is my all-time favorite stro but! That said Manny wants out, Jeff wants to play, Tim wants another bat or pitcher, Boston is all over the place with older vets like Loretta, Lowell etc. There has to be a deal for these guys that is win-win-win.

I still love Bags!

Normally, I would advise you to put down the crack pipe and seek professional help. However, I think you are too far gone, so go ahead and keep on tokin'!!!

OldBlevins · « **Reply #2 on:** January 13, 2006, 06:48:18 pm »

Boston has David Ortiz, though.

Sambito · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2006, 02:39:35 am »

I misspoke; the dollars are similar not the equivalency of talent or years left on contract. However, these two issues could be cleared up by adding Everett & Tavares to any deal. The Bosox get the SS and CF they need and DH a risky DH and addition by subtraction of Manny's exit. The other issue of years left on a contract can be settled By Lucky Lucchino and the Count

NeilT · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2006, 09:07:59 am »

Who's Tavares?

jwhudson · « **Reply #6 on:** January 15, 2006, 10:33:21 am »

I thought the issue was can we trade Bagwell to Boston. I don't think it will happen, its really just fun to think about.

Come on Neil - Taveras, Tavares. Who cares, unless that guy (Willy Terry Taveras) can learn to steal 50 bases and hit the ball out of the infield and not drop easy fly balls, he will not be with the Astros, or any body else. Can we trade him for Crawford while everyone thinks WTT (Willy Terry Taveras) is great? Until then I really don't care how you spell his name.

jwhudson · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2006, 01:54:20 pm »

If he does I will be first to admit that I should not be a major league scout and too stupid to see the obvious. However, I'm talking about hitting the ball "past" an infielder, not power (2b and hr). I realize he is not that kind of player. If he sticks I promise to learn how to spell his name, ok.

JimR · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2006, 02:03:55 pm »

Willy hit the ball HARD in RR. he had lots of bunt hits but not many infield hits. he also was the batting champion. how anyone can criticise his rookie year in MLB is beyond my ability to comprehend, but i'm sure you must be a true expert.

toddthebod · « **Reply #13 on:** January 15, 2006, 08:11:19 pm »

Not only that, but Wily hit the ball very hard during the playoffs. He may never hit a lot of homeruns, but I think that he is going to get a lot of doubles. I like his arm, and I think that he will become better at going to the ball. I would be VERY disappointed if the Astros traded him.

NeilT · « **Reply #17 on:** January 16, 2006, 11:14:11 am »

I'm talking relative to, say, Biggio. But I guess everyone has a relatively short playing life relative to Biggio.

'Course I've seen you run the bases, and being a young speedster yourself, you probably don't know what it means yet to lose a step.

Russ99 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 16, 2006, 12:53:41 pm »

To trade Willy now would be like Kenny Lofton all over again. Eddie Tabuensee, anyone? (cringe)

Not to say he's gonna be another Lofton, but since he was rushed to the majors, maybe the Astros should be patient and see how he develops for 1-2 more years before dumping him.

geezerdonk · « **Reply #26 on:** January 16, 2006, 01:08:43 pm »

Was you ever bit by a dead bee?

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #31 on:** January 16, 2006, 07:16:12 pm »

Wait, browneye archives doesnt sound too good does it.

It might to some.

Cronauer: "Is it me, or is Jimmy light in the loafers?"

Garlick: "Let me put it to you this way. He's got this thing for Walter Brennan. He says he wants to buy naked photographs of the actor. For three years he's been trying."

Cronauer: "Walter Brennan?"

Garlick: "You know, Walter Brennan from The Real McCoys, the TV show. (Imitating Walter Brennan) "Well, yup. Well, well." Anyway, there's this guy from the First Battalion, Second Infantry, who swore that he could get him naked photographs of the actor. And I've been trying to tell him that it's a no-go, but he won't listen to me."

Cronauer: "Oh, God. Nude photographs of Walter Brennan."

Browneye · « **Reply #32 on:** January 16, 2006, 07:34:48 pm »

AHH... Good Morning Vietnam, good flick.

ooohhhh Viva Da Nang, Da Nang me, Da Nang me, Why dont they get a rope and hang me.

Taras Bulba · « **Reply #35 on:** January 17, 2006, 10:02:15 am »

John Ford just rolled around in his grave a few times.