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Week 8/03 - 8/09: Ask And Ye Shall Maybe Receive vol. XXI
« on: August 03, 2005, 12:16:25 pm »
With the new week, I thought I'd post the players I watch most closely in A and AA ball and then the players I keep an occasional eye on.

Closely

Lexington: Gutierrez, Barthmaier, Englebrook, Santangelo, Towles, Sutton, Carraballo, Einertson

Salem: Muecke, Talbot, Shortell, Albers, Douglass, Patton, Ash, Zobrist, Pence

CC: McLemore, Sampson, Hirsh, Gimenez, Anderson

Eye on

Lexington: Reineke, Diaz, Blazek, Estrada, Martinez, Reed, Torbert, Barganier, Thompson

Salem: Stiehl, Torres, Robinson, Escobar, Dewitt

CC: Merchant, Saccomanno, Whiteman, Jimerson, Mike Rodriguez, Barzilla, Robinson

I intentionally left out the short-season leagues because at those levels I watch everyone.  It's so early in a player's career there that most of what goes on that's actually important doesn't show up in the box score.  I listen more for news on player development and growth.
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Re: Week 8/03 - 8/09: Ask And Ye Shall Maybe Receive vol. XXI
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2005, 01:19:22 pm »
I like your lists....

With reguard to SS, how about Sutil.  Even though this is his second season at SS, both years he has been like an OBP machine.  Assuming his defense keeps pace, he might give us great depth at ShortStop in our system, with Zobrist already showing ML potential.

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Re: Week 8/03 - 8/09: Ask And Ye Shall Maybe Receive vol. XXI
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2005, 01:38:13 pm »
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I like your lists....

With reguard to SS, how about Sutil.  Even though this is his second season at SS, both years he has been like an OBP machine.  Assuming his defense keeps pace, he might give us great depth at ShortStop in our system, with Zobrist already showing ML potential.





Sutil is likely the best defensive shortstop in the Astros minor league system.  If he can continue to get on base at a good clip, say better than .350, he'll likely top the Astros minor league depth charts at short one day.
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2005, 02:24:09 pm »
Thanks for the list.  The only one that suprised me was seeing Sutton on the Closely followed list.  He has been up an down from Salem a few times and hasn't produced when he has been there.  

Observation - didn't see a lot of corner infielders on the list.
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Re: Your list
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2005, 02:41:10 pm »
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Thanks for the list.  The only one that suprised me was seeing Sutton on the Closely followed list.  He has been up an down from Salem a few times and hasn't produced when he has been there.




Sutton is the same age as Pence.  Sutton has hit quite well at Lexington and was mediocre at Salem.  The Astros sent him straight to Salem, bypassing Lexington.  He's a middle infielder who has acquitted himself well defensively.  I wonder how he'd look to folks if he'd started the season at Lex then promoted to Salem mid-season.  Plus he's 2 years younger than Zobrist.


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Observation - didn't see a lot of corner infielders on the list.




Do you see many corner infielders in the Astros system worth watching above short-season?  What have I got, something like 3 on there and none in the closely group?  A weakness in the system to be sure.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2005, 04:09:23 pm »
J.R. Towles is hitting very well in Lexington and  is a real sleeper prospect. With Santangelo back, why don't the Astros promote Towles? He is hitting over .400 and has some pop and speed!

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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2005, 04:22:42 pm »
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J.R. Towles is hitting very well in Lexington and  is a real sleeper prospect. With Santangelo back, why don't the Astros promote Towles? He is hitting over .400 and has some pop and speed!


There is a Catcher named Davidson who is pretty decent with the bat at Salem, Towles might just be backing him up then.  The Astros have focused alot on trying to stock the farm with Catching prospects the last couple of years.

From appearances they have done an OK job of it, but no one seems to be without warts... Santangelo is by far the best defensive prospect at catcher with the possible exception of Gimenez at AA.  The SS guys it is too early to tell.

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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2005, 04:23:24 pm »
Reposting this since the other forum was closed.

Comment #1: Zobrist was back in the line-up last night, after being off the night before. I guess they are just bringing him back slowly or something. He was 1-4, and was lifted for a PR, again last night (like he was on the 31st).

Comment #2: Pence seems to be adjusting fine to High-A, batting .326 and still taking walks. My guess is he will be in AA at least next year.

Question #1: If Johnny Ash is good enough to be lead-off when Zobrist is not in the line-up and he is batting well over .300, why is he not batting #2 (atleast) when Zobrist is in the line-up? Him and Ben alternated at Lexington, but DeJesus always seems to move Ash down to around 7 or 8 when he is not leading off (batted 7th last night).

Question #2: What is the story with Davidson, the Salem Catcher... I know he was injured earlier this year, but he has always been on my radar, ever since he had that season (2002, I believe) when he had like a .500 OBP most of the year at SS. I was just curious what were the expectations of him? Is he just a roster filler till he desides to hang 'em up, or might he develop into at least a Greg Zaun type back-up catcher?

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Re: Towles
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2005, 04:28:34 pm »
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J.R. Towles is hitting very well in Lexington and  is a real sleeper prospect. With Santangelo back, why don't the Astros promote Towles? He is hitting over .400 and has some pop and speed!




He's really too raw.  If anyone from Lex were to be promoted, it'd probably be Clark.  Towles would be the primary catcher at Tri-City if Santangelo hadn't gotten hurt.  I don't consider Towles a sleeper at all.  I consider him a bona fide prospect.  Kid was drafted twice by the A's before the Astros got him.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2005, 11:47:15 pm »
The corner infield spots in Houston appear to be in pretty good hands with Berkman/Ensberg for awhile. I am more concerned with lack of corner outfield talent. Hopefully Lane will prove to be a keeper and Pence will continue to develop. I'm not seeing much else exciting unless it is Scott. I am missing something?

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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2005, 07:41:25 am »
as selected by the managers in each league:

Carolina League:
Best Defensive 1st Baseman - Scott Robinson

Texas League:
Best Pitching Prospect - Fernando Nieve
Best Fastball - Nieve
Best Breaking Ball - Jason Hirsh
Fastest Baserunner - Josh Anderson
Best Defensive Outfielder - Anderson
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2005, 12:04:10 pm »
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The corner infield spots in Houston appear to be in pretty good hands with Berkman/Ensberg for awhile.




Well, you want depth at all positions at every level of your org.  And, although Berkman and Ensberg are at the big club now, we don't know what the future holds.


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I am more concerned with lack of corner outfield talent. Hopefully Lane will prove to be a keeper and Pence will continue to develop. I'm not seeing much else exciting unless it is Scott. I am missing something?




Scott and Self at the upper levels is about it, unless you want to include Jimerson.  Pence (left) at high-A.  Carraballo (right) at low-A in interesting.  At the short-season clubs: Iorg (right), Barnes (left), Langdon (right), and Parraz (right) are all developing talents who need time.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2005, 03:31:15 pm »
Todd Self is also a 1B, kind of like Berkman... playing the OF, because 1B is blocked.  So the only real corner spot we have not depth in is 3B.  I don't like any of our 3B prospects above SS at the moment.

We also have a lack of high level prospects at the catcher spot too, but we have a ton at A and SS.  So I view Catcher like I do corner OF.  Not much at the high levels but alot of potential a the low levels.

We have decent pitching up and down though, which is always good.... well our SS squads lack a bit, but sometimes they take time to develop.

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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2005, 03:39:32 pm »
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We also have a lack of high level prospects at the catcher spot too, but we have a ton at A and SS.  So I view Catcher like I do corner OF.  Not much at the high levels but alot of potential a the low levels.




The Astros lack prospects in general at the higher levels because of series of poor drafts in the early 00's.


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We have decent pitching up and down though, which is always good.... well our SS squads lack a bit, but sometimes they take time to develop.




I wouldn't call it lack, yet.  All of them are in need of a great deal of instruction and maturity, except maybe Bogusevic.  This class will take a long time to judge its quality.
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Re: Your list
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2005, 08:19:18 am »
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Scott and Self at the upper levels is about it, unless you want to include Jimerson.  Pence (left) at high-A.  Carraballo (right) at low-A in interesting.  At the short-season clubs: Iorg (right), Barnes (left), Langdon (right), and Parraz (right) are all developing talents who need time.





I have yet to see Langdon play an inning so I am not to sure about him.  Barnes does look good in the field.  But two other prospects in Rookie SS have caught my eye.  

Flores - can track down the ball, can fly once moving on the bases, showing some power and average, needs to cut down on K's. Takes his work very seriously.

Warrick - Great speed, slap hitter.  Good base running senses.  Reminds me of a young Kenny Lofton or Otis Nixon. Has a love of the game and enjoys his time out there.

I agree Iorg is the cream of the crop here but he would be in Lexington if it wasn't for his injury.
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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2005, 10:58:59 am »
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Scott and Self at the upper levels is about it, unless you want to include Jimerson.  Pence (left) at high-A.  Carraballo (right) at low-A in interesting.  At the short-season clubs: Iorg (right), Barnes (left), Langdon (right), and Parraz (right) are all developing talents who need time.





I have yet to see Langdon play an inning so I am not to sure about him.  Barnes does look good in the field.  But two other prospects in Rookie SS have caught my eye.  

Flores - can track down the ball, can fly once moving on the bases, showing some power and average, needs to cut down on K's. Takes his work very seriously.

Warrick - Great speed, slap hitter.  Good base running senses.  Reminds me of a young Kenny Lofton or Otis Nixon. Has a love of the game and enjoys his time out there.

I agree Iorg is the cream of the crop here but he would be in Lexington if it wasn't for his injury.





I excluded Flores and Warrick because the question was specifically about corner outfielders.  Those 2 are center fielders, or at least were drafted as such.  Flores for sure, I watch.  Warrick was a late round pick out of a 4 year school and so isn't expect to do much and is likely a bit advanced for rookie ball anyway.
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2005, 03:47:20 pm »
Wondering what the SR is on Roberto Giron.  From what I can find, seems to be a pretty good pitcher if he can retain command and composure.  The command seems to be much better over the last few years...  He's 29, but can he help the Astros some time in the future?
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2005, 03:54:36 pm »
Last year's 7th-round pick Andrew Alvarado (maybe I overlooked it, but I didn't see his name on either of your lists) is now out due to TJS.

Hard-throwin' Felipe Paulino joins the Legends' roster as Alvarado's replacement.

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Phil Barzilla has done a pretty good job as a starter for...
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2005, 04:16:18 pm »
the Hooks:

 
     
  • 10 G  
  • 55.2 IP  
  • 56 H  
  • 22 R  
  • 19 ER  
  • 14 BB  
  • 35 K  
  • 3.07 ERA  


His strikeout rate is down substantially from prior in the year when he was a reliever (when he whiffed 29 in 30.2 IP), but that certainly isn't unexpected.

His prospect status probably remains murky, but any lefty in the organization who experiences any bit of progress is always good news.
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Luke Scott update...
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2005, 06:19:58 pm »
over his last 29 games:

 
     
  • .355 BA  
  • .418 OBP  
  • .736 SLG  
  • 13 HR  
  • 31 RBI  


He's currently on a 6-game hitting streak in which he's batting .520 (13-25).
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Chance Douglass cruising along...
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2005, 09:35:31 pm »
over his last 13 starts as he's put up the following numbers:

 
     
  • 86.2 IP  
  • 67 H  
  • 22 R  
  • 19 ER  
  • 23 BB  
  • 62 K  
  • 1.97 ERA  


That compares to a 6.45 ERA in his first 8 starts of the season in his initial exposure to the Carolina League. Overall for the year, the Amarillo boy's 3.33 ERA ranks 2nd in the Carolina League (behind teammate Josh Muecke's 3.24 ERA).

An obvious key to his success this season is better control. The 21-year old (and second youngest player on the Avalanche roster after Troy Patton) had a 4.81 BB/9 ratio at Lexington last year, versus just 2.53 so far this year.
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2005, 01:20:50 pm »
Got some info.  He joined the local American Legion baseball team.  That's generally something drafting teams don't want draftees to do.  That gives me an indication of what Lindblom thinks of the chances of signing.  The person I got the info from thinks he's headed to Tennessee.  However, he says Josh really wants to turn pro.  So the door is still open.  No word on how really far apart Josh and the Astros are, but it must quite a distance.
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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2005, 02:20:07 pm »
I wouldn't think Tennessee is excited about him playing more ball either.
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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2005, 03:06:38 pm »
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Not a big deal, really... my brother and I both played Legion ball with a number of guys who played at name, D-1 baseball programs (e.g., LSU, Okie State, Alabama, etc.).

I never recall any of them mentioning or even hinting that Bertman, Ward, Wells, etc. had any problem with their playing Legion ball, nor have I ever heard or read of any college coach publically discouraging Legion ball.
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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2005, 04:53:51 pm »
I haven't had a good feeling about Lindblom signing for some time now.  HOU needs to make sure that this isn't Drew Stubbs again.
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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2005, 06:20:44 pm »
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I haven't had a good feeling about Lindblom signing for some time now.  HOU needs to make sure that this isn't Drew Stubbs again.




Of course it could be like Eric Keefner.
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I haven't had a good feeling about Lindblom signing for some time now.  HOU needs to make sure that this isn't Drew Stubbs again.




Of course it could be like Eric Keefner.



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I haven't had a good feeling about Lindblom signing for some time now.  HOU needs to make sure that this isn't Drew Stubbs again.




Of course it could be like Eric Keefner.





Or, a few years earlier than that, Brad Busbin.
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« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2005, 08:35:43 pm »
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I haven't had a good feeling about Lindblom signing for some time now.  HOU needs to make sure that this isn't Drew Stubbs again.




Of course it could be like Eric Keefner.


Refresh my memory...




Eric Keefner was a 4th round pick in 2000 out of HS who never signed with the Astros. In 2002, he was drafted by the Chisox in the 22nd round and signed with them. Last seen playing in one of the indy leagues.

In case you were also wondering, Brad Busbin was a 3rd round pick by the Astros in 1998 out of high school. He went the college route and was later drafted by the Phillies in the 27th round in 2002. After playing one season of SS ball, he got released.

BTW, Jason Van Meetren was taken in the 4th round of that 1998 draft. He didn't sign and was claimed by the Mariners in the 13th round in 2001. Also last seen playing in the indy leagues.
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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2005, 12:33:19 am »
JR Towles reached base 3 times on HBPs in Lexington's game vs. Hagerstown tonight.

Oh, and he hit a 2-run shot. No, he apparently didn't show up the other side as he was rounding the bases as all three plunks occurred prior to his hitting the dinger.
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« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2005, 07:58:25 am »
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JR Towles reached base 3 times on HBPs in Lexington's game vs. Hagerstown tonight.

Oh, and he hit a 2-run shot. No, he apparently didn't show up the other side as he was rounding the bases as all three plunks occurred prior to his hitting the dinger.





It appears there was almost a brawl in the game, not after the HBP but after Towles' double in the ninth.

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Re: Week 8/03 - 8/09: Ask And Ye Shall Maybe Receive vol. X
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2005, 09:49:42 am »
 Houston Chronicle minor league notebook, if anyone is interested, though the posters here offer so much more.
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« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2005, 10:49:49 am »
I saw the other day that Whiteman was called up to RR and had a big game last night.  It seemed (at least to this casual observer) that he had sort of been in the doghouse this season.  Any news on his promotion and where the Astros see him in terms of development?
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Re: Week 8/03 - 8/09: Ask And Ye Shall Maybe Receive vol. XXI
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2005, 12:11:57 pm »
I am going to a Tri-city Valley Cats game this week in Brooklyn.  Who do I need to watch when I go?  I will probably be going on Thursday.  Thanks for your help.

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I am going to a Tri-city Valley Cats game this week in Brooklyn.  Who do I need to watch when I go?  I will probably be going on Thursday.  Thanks for your help.




If it's me, everybody.  At that level every starting pitcher should get a look.  If you're looking for a select few: McKeller should get the start Thursday (a strong armed kid who hasn't been able to put it together).  I'd look for Bogusevic if he relieves.  Sutil and Manzella on the infield or DH.  Parraz in the outfield.  If he catches, Jose Lopez.
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Re: Week 8/03 - 8/09: Ask And Ye Shall Maybe Receive vol. X
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2005, 01:25:08 pm »
what gave you the impression that he was in the dog house? something you heard or read?

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« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2005, 01:39:51 pm »
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I saw the other day that Whiteman was called up to RR and had a big game last night.  It seemed (at least to this casual observer) that he had sort of been in the doghouse this season.  Any news on his promotion and where the Astros see him in terms of development?




Mostly he has just sucked.  He did have a big game the other night, and he may finally be getting it together, but earlier in the season at RR he looked completely overmatched by AAA pitching.  Not unlike his first exposure to AA a few years ago (when he was sent down after struggling).  I like the guy's attitude and would like him to succeed, but I really doubt that he will.
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Koby Clemens pulled from game because of injury
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2005, 12:14:27 am »
Koby Clemens was pulled from tonights game after grounding out. MILB game log say an injured leg but don't know any more specifics.
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« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2005, 11:11:12 am »
I notice that when Justin Humphries was activated at LEX, Brandon Barganier was demoted to T-C in spite of his .300+ average and (apparently) decent defense.  That leaves LEX with three first basemen (including the 25-year-old sub-.200-hitting kevin Vital) and only four outfielders.

I haven't gotten a chance to see low A this year.  Is there something I'm missing about this?  Anybody have "the rest of the story"??
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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2005, 11:43:18 am »
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I notice that when Justin Humphries was activated at LEX, Brandon Barganier was demoted to T-C in spite of his .300+ average and (apparently) decent defense.  That leaves LEX with three first basemen (including the 25-year-old sub-.200-hitting kevin Vital) and only four outfielders.

I haven't gotten a chance to see low A this year.  Is there something I'm missing about this?  Anybody have "the rest of the story"??





This is one of the issues I have with the mlbism of minor league baseball.  Info is increasing difficult to come by.  It appears, and I haven't gotten confirmation, that very quietly Vital was released some time after his last appearance as a DH on July 30.  If I get confirmation, I'll post it in "Comings and Goings".
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« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2005, 11:57:19 am »
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I notice that when Justin Humphries was activated at LEX, Brandon Barganier was demoted to T-C in spite of his .300+ average and (apparently) decent defense.  That leaves LEX with three first basemen (including the 25-year-old sub-.200-hitting kevin Vital) and only four outfielders.

I haven't gotten a chance to see low A this year.  Is there something I'm missing about this?  Anybody have "the rest of the story"??





This is one of the issues I have with the mlbism of minor league baseball.  Info is increasing difficult to come by.  It appears, and I haven't gotten confirmation, that very quietly Vital was released some time after his last appearance as a DH on July 30.  If I get confirmation, I'll post it in "Comings and Goings".





That might explain some things then ,since that would have been about the time Einertson was returned to duty.  Maybe the OF is just getting crowded and they would rather have BB play regularly at TC??  Oh well ...
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Re: Brandon Barganier
« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2005, 12:04:52 pm »
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I notice that when Justin Humphries was activated at LEX, Brandon Barganier was demoted to T-C in spite of his .300+ average and (apparently) decent defense.  That leaves LEX with three first basemen (including the 25-year-old sub-.200-hitting kevin Vital) and only four outfielders.

I haven't gotten a chance to see low A this year.  Is there something I'm missing about this?  Anybody have "the rest of the story"??





This is one of the issues I have with the mlbism of minor league baseball.  Info is increasing difficult to come by.  It appears, and I haven't gotten confirmation, that very quietly Vital was released some time after his last appearance as a DH on July 30.  If I get confirmation, I'll post it in "Comings and Goings".




That might explain some things then ,since that would have been about the time Einertson was returned to duty.  Maybe the OF is just getting crowded and they would rather have BB play regularly at TC??  Oh well ...




Now, TC has 5 outfielders and Lex has 4.  I'm thinking roster limits and quality of outfielders has determined placement.

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