Tigers at Astros- August 21, 2019

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Tonight's Astros Lineup:

Springer 9
Altuve 4
Bregman 5
Alvarez DH
Gurriel 3
Chirinos 2
Marisnick 8
Mayfield 6
Straw 7

Verlander P

[MusicMan]

Reddick bobble head, Ric Flair throwing out the first pitch, but no Reddick


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[JimR]

Reddick bobble head, Ric Flair throwing out the first pitch, but no Reddick


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LHP for Detroit.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Tough break for Josh with a lefty going,  but he's holding it together:

https://twitter.com/karenwarrenHC/status/1164304550167109632?s=19

[MusicMan]

Naitch shows that rasslers were not meant to lead long lives.


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[Astros Fan in Big D]

Footer was rolling:

https://twitter.com/alysonfooter/status/1164300548192927744?s=19

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

FTR I caught my 4th fish in as many days today. FWIW.

[hostros7]

It looked like Cabrera was laughing after Verlander threw a FB down the middle on the first pitch


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[JimR]

Man, Yordan was right on that curve, but under it, and flipped it up in the air.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Springer reached on an infield single.
Altuve struck out on 3 pitches (last one was eyebrow height, so he swung)
A couple of flyballs ended it.

No score after 1.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Man, Yordan was right on that curve, but under it, and flipped it up in the air.

Impressive that waited on it.   78 mph and ended up popped to left field.

[JimR]

Impressive that waited on it.   78 mph and ended up popped to left field.

Sent you a pm

[MusicMan]

Why the hell do we have so many cooks in the TV broadcast kitchen tonight?

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Chirinos gets a 1 out double but that's it.

Scoreless after 2.

[das]

Bogesevic is not bad on color. (On the TV broadcast(

[JimR]

Did Altuve decide to swing at every pitch?

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Nothing in the third.

Altuve ended striking out on 3 pitches.   This time the last one was in the dirt

No score after 3.

[JimR]

Why the hell do we have so many cooks in the TV broadcast kitchen tonight?

I like it so far.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

I'm just glad TK is back.

Was funny to hear them tiptoe around Sosa's transformation.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

A little help from blue,  but Alvarez flies out.

Bogie with salient analysis before it happened.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

New pitcher for Detroit. Alexander (LHP).

After Bregman walk, 2 flyball outs followed by a Chirinos single into center.

Jake Ks swinging.

No score after 4.

[HudsonHawk]

I like it so far.

Me too.

[JimR]

Bad AB by Marisnick.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Bogusevic is good at this.

[HudsonHawk]

Welp...center cut fastball and it's 1-0 Tigers

[Astros Fan in Big D]

JVs first hit allowed is a 2 out solo homer to RF.

Center cut FB.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Enough of this crap,  offense.   Put some heat on these guys.

[HudsonHawk]

JVs first hit allowed is a 2 out solo homer to RF.

Center cut FB.

It was a good fastball, JV just hit the bat with it. 

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Mayfield and Straw make 2 quick outs.

Springer gets ahead 2-0, then even,  then full,  finally lines an outside pitch to right.

Altuve takes 2 balls then a strike, another ball,  misses a FB to go full,  fouls one back. Flies out to right.

1 to 0 Tigers after 5.

[austro]

Where is the bleeping offense?

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Ok, what do the fashionistas here think of those all black hats?

[hostros7]

Someone needs to send a telegram to the dugout informing the team that no less than 2 runs are required to win this game. Perhaps a bilingual singing telegram to add a festive element.


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[Astros Fan in Big D]

So many harmless flyballs from the Astros.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Bregman F9
Alvarez 4-3 into the shift
Yuli pops out to short


PA-THETIC

Still 1-0

[JimR]

Where is the bleeping offense?

Brantley is on the bench
Correa is on the IL

After Yuli: Chirinos, Marisnick, Mayfield, Straw

Wasting JV

[Texifornia]

I just got home and checked into Gameday. I see Verlander is getting his customary offensive support, and giving up a customary number and type of hits.

[hostros7]

Brantley is on the bench
Correa is on the IL

After Yuli: Chirinos, Marisnick, Mayfield, Straw

Wasting JV

Whatever the Tigers are sending out 1-9 has 1 more run against Justin Verlander than a depleted Astros squad has against the ever formidable, historically dominant against the Astros, Unknown Lefty(ies).


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[Jacksonian]

Brantley is on the bench
Correa is on the IL

After Yuli: Chirinos, Marisnick, Mayfield, Straw

Wasting JV

Chirinos is 2-2.  Someone needs to wake up A!tuve, Bregman, Alvarez, and Gurriel.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Brantley is on the bench
Correa is on the IL

After Yuli: Chirinos, Marisnick, Mayfield, Straw

Wasting JV

Chirinos has half of their hits. 

It's been anemic.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Stop wasting Justin Verlander's outings!!!!!!!

[Texifornia]

Verlander is at 76 pitches through seven innings. If he could just get some run support we might see the pen get a break tonight.

[JimR]

Chirinos has half of their hits. 

It's been anemic.

I do not know why Hinch does lineups like this.

Holy shit. Chirinos!

[hostros7]

Chirinos is 2-2.  Someone needs to wake up A!tuve, Bregman, Alvarez, and Gurriel.

He’s trying


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[HudsonHawk]

Chirinos has half of their hits. 

It's been anemic.

He now has 3/5ths. 

And we're tied!!!

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Chirinos says I do it myself!!

[astrojo]

Thankful for Chirinos - he has 3 of our 5 hits including that game tying bomb

[JimR]

Chirinos had success the first half laying off the high pitch.

[HudsonHawk]

I keep seeing Marisnick whiffing, and thinking, "oh well, turn the lineup over".  Then I realize he's hitting 7th. 

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Gardenhire to pitching coach:
I thought we had a good book on Chirinos?!

Pitching coach:
We do.  We've been hitting the spots all night.   Oh. . . wait a minute.  Oh geez. . . " (turns card 180 degrees)

[JimR]

I keep seeing Marisnick whiffing, and thinking, "oh well, turn the lineup over".  Then I realize he's hitting 7th.

Yep

[JimR]

Zero, JV

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Chirinos ties it, but that's it.

1-1 after 7.

[JimR]

Now score!

[Texifornia]

Verlander averaging exactly eleven pitches per inning.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

JV puts em down in order in the 8th.

Springer due up.

[Texifornia]

Buck Farmer pitching.

I always went out to hunt 'em. Didn't know they could be farmed.

[hostros7]

What was that 3-0 swing from Jose?


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[HudsonHawk]

Altuve...hacking at 3-0 sliders off the plate...unbelievable.

[HudsonHawk]

Altuve manages to work a walk.  Now he needs to take a bag.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Altuve...hacking at 3-0 sliders off the plate...unbelievable.

That was terrible.

[HudsonHawk]

What in the literal fuck, Altuve???

[MusicMan]

Are you shitting me, Jose?

[hostros7]

Altuve...hacking at 3-0 sliders off the plate...unbelievable.

Altuve, WTF? Not worth the risk.


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[astrojo]

Wow. With Alvarez up.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Buck Farmer (RHP, adult film star) pitching

Springer 5-3
Altuve walks
Bregman grounds into a 6-3-5 dp (Altuve was running in the play).

Under review.  . . .

[HudsonHawk]

Can you challenge both plays?

Bregman was safe.

[hostros7]

Why would one possibly want a runner on second with 2 outs and Yordan and Yuli coming up?


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[Astros Fan in Big D]

Altuve with a boneheaded baserunning decision takes the bat out of Yordan's hands.

[austro]

Can you challenge both plays?

Bregman was safe.

Bregman was definitely safe, and Altuve was definitely out. Hinch picked the wrong bag.

[JimR]

Altuve is a mystery.

[HudsonHawk]

Fuck

[astrojo]

Dammit JV!

[austro]

God damn it. This is so frustrating.

[JimR]

Fuck

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Altuve is a mystery.

He's looked terrible all night. That gaffe just topped it off.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Leadoff homer makes it 2-1.

JVs line:
9 IP, 2 R, 2H, 11, K, 0 BB

[HudsonHawk]

I'm calling it now:  Josh Reddick with a pinch hit walkoff RBI...

[austro]

He's looked terrible all night. That gaffe just topped it off.

Here's what I don't understand: he's way off the plate, presumably so won't get jammed. So then the pitcher does him a favor on the 3-1 pitch and throws a nice fastball thigh-high on the inner third, right where he could clobber it, and Jose watches it. Maybe he was upset that he didn't get a slider down and away.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Here's what I don't understand: he's way off the plate, presumably so won't get jammed. So then the pitcher does him a favor on the 3-1 pitch and throws a nice fastball thigh-high on the inner third, right where he could clobber it, and Jose watches it. Maybe he was upset that he didn't get a slider down and away.

Right there with you.

[HudsonHawk]

Alvarez caught looking to lead off the 9th...

[HudsonHawk]

Yuli punches out...down to the final out.

[austro]

What a meek effort.

[astrojo]

This is going to be an embarrassing loss.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Alvarez caught looking to lead off the 9th...

He didn't chase out of the zone that time.

But Yuli did.

[Jacksonian]

2 - 5 hitless.

[HudsonHawk]

What a piss poor night for the offense.  They should be ashamed.

[JimR]

This is criminal

[HudsonHawk]

He didn't chase out of the zone that time.

But Yuli did.

Didn't chase in the zone either.

[HudsonHawk]

Unbelievably fucking stupid.

[MusicMan]

Tonight's loss brought to you by DUMBASS OUTS AT THIRD BASE

[Tom Servo]

With Brantley on deck.  WTF?

[hostros7]

What the fuck?


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[Astros Fan in Big D]

STUPID BASERUNNING AGAIN!!!!!

[HudsonHawk]

Chirinos graduates from the Altuve School of Dumbfuckery.

[DVauthrin]

What the hell are you doing Chirinos?  Stay at second and give Brantley a chance to drive you in.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Dumbass decisions.

[austro]

What a piss poor night for the offense.  They should be ashamed.

I blame the bookies. Apparently they put the Astros at -500, for some sort of record. The previous record was the Astros against Baltimore, at -460 or something, in the Sunday game that they lost in the 9th inning.

What a fitting end.

[JimR]

Unreal stupidity

[HudsonHawk]

Game ends on an Astros walk-off double...fitting.

[Tom Servo]

He REALLY wanted that cycle.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

He REALLY wanted that cycle.

If that was in his head then fuck him.

[JimR]

Hinch has both of his pinch runners in the game. Chirinos was going to have to score from second on a Brantley hit..

If I were Hinch, i’d be yelling a bit in the clubhouse.

[The Spleen]

If that was in his head then fuck him.

Why else did he absolutely have to be at third with two outs? Because he might have trouble scoring from second on a single? They were going to run for him anyway...

ETA: Then I remember who they had to scrape up just to fill a lineup tonight. If Correa is gone for a while, this offense might end up being a worse problem than the bullpen.

[HudsonHawk]

If that was in his head then fuck him.

I doubt he was thinking cycle when he was running.  He saw the fielder dive and miss, and was trying to get as many bases as he could.  Bad decision.  Doesn't make him a bad person.

[JimR]

If that was in his head then fuck him.

Agreed.

[Tom Servo]

I doubt he was thinking cycle when he was running.  He saw the fielder dive and miss, and was trying to get as many bases as he could.  Bad decision.  Doesn't make him a bad person.

You're probably right.  I just couldn't help but think about it.

[JimR]

Why else did he absolutely have to be at third with two outs? Because he might have trouble scoring from second on a single? They were going to run for him anyway...

Really? Run with whom?

[jbm]

Really? Run with whom?

Didn’t they have Reddick available?

[JimR]

Didn’t they have Reddick available?

Yep. Forgot him. Straw and Jake were in the game.

[Jacksonian]

2-5 hitters 0 for 14 = loss.

[JimR]

When the hitting star is Chirinos, that’s trouble.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

I doubt he was thinking cycle when he was running.  He saw the fielder dive and miss, and was trying to get as many bases as he could.  Bad decision.  Doesn't make him a bad person.

Yes,  that's likely the scenario.  Chirinos is a solid dude who made a bad decision after supplying the only offense all night.

[HudsonHawk]

Didn’t they have Reddick available?

I'm assuming Reddick would have hit for either Mayfield or Straw.

[JimR]

Yes,  that's likely the scenario.  Chirinos is a solid dude who made a bad decision after supplying the only offense all night.

So damn stupid. He was out by 10 feet.

[JimR]

Two consecutive games the offense has not supported a JV gem. Both games he gave up two solo homers and struck out more than 10. The offense scored three runs total.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

I'm assuming Reddick would have hit for either Mayfield or Straw.

Yes.

Righty on the hill,  I'm sure if Brantley reached without the run scoring Josh would have hit next.

And your prediction would have been put to the test.

Alas . . .

[JimR]

I'm assuming Reddick would have hit for either Mayfield or Straw.

This is more likely than pinch running.

Yordan taking strike three is inexplicable.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Two consecutive games the offense has not supported a JV gem. Both games he gave up two solo homers and struck out more than 10. The offense scored three runs total.

The approaches at the plate in both games seemed so lackluster. It's not like the opposing pitchers were dominant. They were just leading our hitters by the nose into doing nothing.

[JimR]

The approaches at the plate in both games seemed so lackluster. It's not like the opposing pitchers were dominant. They were just leading our hitters by the nose into doing nothing.

Straw instead of Brantley makes no sense.

[The Spleen]

He suddenly seems oddly passive. I wonder if the coaches got onto him about the bad pitches he chased last week and now he's overcompensating.

[HudsonHawk]

He suddenly seems oddly passive. I wonder if the coaches got onto him about the bad pitches he chased last week and now he's overcompensating.

I don't think he's passive, and I doubt the coaches want him to stop being selective.  Strike three there was down in the zone, a pitcher's pitch, but he has to protect with 2-strikes, especially down a run in the 9th.  He got a pitch to hit earlier in the count and fouled it off, which as Jim has pointed out several times in the last week, the bigger concern, his not hitting pitches he should be punishing. 

[Astros Fan in Big D]

Freaking .334 hitter on deck . . .

[JimR]

I am fucking tired of hearing about Yordan’s records. He needs to be consistent and to punish mistakes.

[Jacksonian]

I am fucking tired of hearing about Yordan’s records. He needs to be consistent and to punish mistakes.

He was the least of the problems tonight.

[JimR]

He was the least of the problems tonight.

He was one of them, but the loss was not his fault. No one in the middle of the order hit, and the stars did not play like stars. My comment about Yordan was general, and I have felt this way for a couple of weeks or more.

[Jacksonian]

He was one of them, but the loss was not his fault. No one in the middle of the order hit, and the stars did not play like stars. My comment about Yordan was general, and I have felt this way for a couple of weeks or more.

Yeah, I was picking up the notion that you might not be bashful.

[JimR]

Yeah, I was picking up the notion that you might not be bashful.

Nope, I am not.