Boras and Free Agency article in The Athletic

[juliogotay]

 https://theathletic.com/945374/2019/04/25/rosenthal-has-agent-scott-boras-failed-to-adapt-assessing-his-winners-and-losers-in-free-agency/

good reporting from Rosenthal.

[das]

https://theathletic.com/945374/2019/04/25/rosenthal-has-agent-scott-boras-failed-to-adapt-assessing-his-winners-and-losers-in-free-agency/

good reporting from Rosenthal.

Here's another good one:  Dale Murphy (who's writing and insights I've increasingly appreciated) talking about Mike Schmidt and Mike Trout.
https://theathletic.com/938406/2019/04/23/dale-murphy-i-played-against-some-of-the-all-time-greats-mike-trout-is-better-than-all-of-them/

[juliogotay]

Here's another good one:  Dale Murphy (who's writing and insights I've increasingly appreciated) talking about Mike Schmidt and Mike Trout.
https://theathletic.com/938406/2019/04/23/dale-murphy-i-played-against-some-of-the-all-time-greats-mike-trout-is-better-than-all-of-them/

Yes, it is and I agree with you about Murphy's writings. Every time I've read him it was worth the time.

[Bench]

What are the broad strokes?

[Astros Fan in Big D]

What are the broad strokes?

Boras, get ready for it,  says that teams using all the data available are all coming to the same conclusion about the value of a given player.   He argues that this is often a false value (read: way less than what he asks for in a multiyear contract).

The quotes from Boras are limited but exhausting to read.

[Fredia]

so basically maybe he loosing his grip

[Duman]

Boras, get ready for it,  says that teams using all the data available are all coming to the same conclusion about the value of a given player.   He argues that this is often a false value (read: way less than what he asks for in a multiyear contract).

The quotes from Boras are limited but exhausting to read.

He says false value but I read it as  - since everyone has the same data, he can't create competition by providing selective info to different clubs based on their biases.  He is like scouts who fought analytics and are now whining about not having a job.  He is playing catch. 

[Texifornia]

It brings to mind the larger issue: Advanced analytics at some point will reach a peak of effectiveness and be fully distributed among the market of 30 organizations. Will intuition and "humint" then become the path to success?

[subnuclear]

It brings to mind the larger issue: Advanced analytics at some point will reach a peak of effectiveness and be fully distributed among the market of 30 organizations. Will intuition and "humint" then become the path to success?

I think there a maybe 10 teams that are trying to get to the Astros level of technical analytics and there are maybe 10 organizations that are running on the minimum budget they can get away with and everyone else in the middle.

[MusicMan]

I think there a maybe 10 teams that are trying to get to the Astros level of technical analytics and there are maybe 10 organizations that are running on the minimum budget they can get away with and everyone else in the middle.

I forget which article it was in, but one of the bottom teams had an exec anonymously quoted as “we just try to copy the Astros.”


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[juliogotay]

I forget which article it was in, but one of the bottom teams had an exec anonymously quoted as “we just try to copy the Astros.”


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as if they post their strategy in Baseball America.

[MusicMan]

as if they post their strategy in Baseball America.

No, but along the lines of seeing that all their hitters have a certain approach.


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[austro]

No, but along the lines of seeing that all their hitters have a certain approach.

Leaving runners in scoring position?

[moriartp]

No, but along the lines of seeing that all their hitters have a certain approach.

Kyle Boddy and Eno Sarris were tweeting about that the other day. It was literally “they all set up the same.” They were having a great time laughing at that.