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Cuba trip with some details
« on: January 29, 2019, 03:40:34 pm »
I was on a cruise on the Azamara Journey, which is part of the Royal Caribbean family. The ship was a smaller one with only 700 passengers. I was part of a group of 100 who were guests of Park West Gallery. As you may imagine, we “qualified” for this free cruise (and a free 24/7 drinks package) by previous art purchases. Park West is the largest art dealer in the world and supplies the art for cruise ship art programs.

We were in Havana for two days, Cienfuegos for one day, 24 hours spread over two days (5pm to 5pm) in Santiago de Cuba, one day in Nassau, and two sea days. Organized tours were available at each port, and the cruise line took as many of the 700 who wanted to go to a fabulous modern ballet performance the first night in Havana. This show was truly incredible.

In Havana I did the classic car tour the first morning, which combined the cars, a bus, and a short walking tour. One of our three guides said something to me about baseball, and I told him I wanted a fitted Industrialies cap. After the tour ended, he took me on a trek in and out of shops he knew of trying to find an authentic team cap. Just as he/we were about to give up, we found one! Yay. A bonus of this association was he worked in a restaurant as his regular gig, and we (I was hanging out with a great couple from KC who are SERIOUS art collectors), and we ate “lunch” there at about 3. The next day I blew off the walking tour after awhile and walked around Havana by myself soaking it all in. Surreal-much like Carolyn and I walking in Red Square-to be walking around Havana Cuba, alone, with no fear or apprehension. The streets were clogged with people on a weekday, and I did not encounter a single unfriendly person. I bought Montecristo cigars for Mark and me. Under the new rules, up to 100 cigars may be brought back duty free.

My most fun day was in Cienfuegos. The three of us wound up in two bicycle taxis, and they drove us around for 6+ hours. We shopped, stopped to see a restaurant where Fidel celebrated after the revolution was secure (big photo on the wall), just generally drove around all over, and went to the ballpark (Cienfuegos Los Elefantes). The team had been eliminated from the postseason so I thought I would be taking photos of an empty ballpark. No! There was a game in progress between two teams of 18-year olds-a team from Cienfuegos and one from another town. We watched 2-3 innings and left with Cienfuegos holding a 7-1 lead. As we left, a guy with some swag approached the easy mark (me), and after some negotiation I bought a cap and home and away Los Elefantes jerseys. We told our drivers we wanted an authentic Cuban meal, and they took us to Restaurante Bahia, which was great. We bought their lunch, and I had a couple of the best local beer (Bucanero) with my lunch. Don’t ask me what I had because I do not remember, but it was great. Our drivers each had a heaping pile of fried shrimp, and the mixture of rice and black beans was to die for. One of the drivers was a baseball fanatic; he did not speak much English, but we talked all day about Cuban and other Latin American MLB players. They turned into Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid when we were back at the ship, but we paid the 100 CUC per taxi without argument. We had not negotiated a price up front, and they had us all day in a tremendously fun day.

The three of us walked around Santiago’s Old Town, which is very hilly and somewhat challenging, Think SF. My friends mostly hung out in the Plaza Square setting up a photo with some musicians so I left them and explored on my own. I was kicking myself for not buying street art in Cienfuegos, and the shopping was not as good in Santiago. I finally found a street with shops and bought a couple of pieces...one to keep and one to give away. My friends wanted to go back to the ship around 1 so I went with them because I thought I had been pretty much all over the Old Town area. We encounter one extremely friendly local on the street who asked me where I was from. When I told him, he said “Oh, Estados Unidos!” The best people in the world are from Estados Unidos, except for Cuba.” On my way back down the hill going to the ship, she stopped me again to ask if I had a good time and to urge me to return. He was not trying to sell me anything; he simply was being welcoming and friendly. We went to the Tropicana the night we were in Santiago. It is a 1950s-style nightclub show with women in colorful outfits with tall headdresses, male and female singers and dancers, a complimentary cigar, and a complimentary bottle of rum and Cokes for each two patrons.

One funny thing, or at least this made me smile. The internet warns potential US travelers not to rely on credit cards because US bank cards are not accepted. One needs cash, and Cuba’s payback for the embargo is to charge an extra an extra 10% to exchange US dollars for CUC (1 to 1 USD). All currency is charged 3% so $100 USD becomes 87 CUC. US folks are advised take euros, Canadian dollars, or British pounds to exchange. I took Canadian. I did not do a good job spending all my money ashore, so I had to exchange what I had when I left Santiago. US banks will not take CUC. I went to the window and asked for Canadian dollars. The nice lady changing money said “I only have US dollars.”  Well, good for you! Cuba did not get my 10% entering the country , but it got it when I left.

The people were extremely friendly and are glad to see Americans coming as tourists. In each city, the streets are crowded all day. Our guide in Havana told us “When you go back home, tell your friends we love Americans. We have been praying for this day for many years.”

Ask me any questions you have. I had a wonderful time. Cuba was a bucket list dream trip for me.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2019, 03:52:30 pm »
I am a committed Cristal man, myself.

If you go back, make sure you're in Havana on a Saturday in order to take in the art market on the Paseo del Prado. There is a surprising amount of worthwhile art of all sorts, and you are almost always dealing with the artist.

There are several off the beaten path art galleries, too, that you could get lost in.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2019, 04:05:37 pm »
I am a committed Cristal man, myself.

If you go back, make sure you're in Havana on a Saturday in order to take in the art market on the Paseo del Prado. There is a surprising amount of worthwhile art of all sorts, and you are almost always dealing with the artist.

There are several off the beaten path art galleries, too, that you could get lost in.

We were there on a Wednesday and Thursday, and I really did not start looking for street art until Cienfuegos.  I did buy a poster from a documentary about the Industriales. That is my bad because our guide the first day would have showed me those out of the way places.

Our taxi drivers had a Cristal, which they said is lighter and less ABV than Bucanero. The beer was good but not exceptional.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2019, 04:31:53 pm »
Pedicabs in NYC go for $3+ per minute, so $100 seems like a reasonable deal.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2019, 04:34:50 pm »
Bucanero is way too strong for me.

The art scene there is off the charts, obviously, but the various, old posters available are great, too. They have all the normal revolutionary stuff you might imagine which I find sort of boring, and no end of kooky, sort of socialist spirit lifting. Anything from deco to brutalist. Cheap, too, almost all of it, especially if you encounter anything interesting in stores that accept moneda nacional rather than CUC, in which case you'll literally be spending pennies.

There are a couple of tourist oriented art markets, and I should warn you that these are most definitely not what I am advocating. There is a particularly large one over on the harbor which is worth a visit, but I would certainly not buy any art there. I did, however, buy my son a lime green guayabera under the reasonable assumption that every self-respecting gentleman needs one in his wardrobe.

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The Saturday market on the Prado is really what you want to do, though, I think, because almost everyone who's showing their art is the actual artist. And, as I said, more of it is good than is strictly necessary.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2019, 04:46:44 pm »
Bucanero is way too strong for me.

The art scene there is off the charts, obviously, but the various, old posters available are great, too. They have all the normal revolutionary stuff you might imagine which I find sort of boring, and no end of kooky, sort of socialist spirit lifting. Anything from deco to brutalist. Cheap, too, almost all of it, especially if you encounter anything interesting in stores that accept moneda nacional rather than CUC, in which case you'll literally be spending pennies.

There are a couple of tourist oriented art markets, and I should warn you that these are most definitely not what I am advocating. There is a particularly large one over on the harbor which is worth a visit, but I would certainly not buy any art there. I did, however, buy my son a lime green guayabera under the reasonable assumption that every self-respecting gentleman needs one in his wardrobe.

https://goo.gl/maps/DjKxfRPMBEF2

The Saturday market on the Prado is really what you want to do, though, I think, because almost everyone who's showing their art is the actual artist. And, as I said, more of it is good than is strictly necessary.

I was not looking for art in Havana, but maybe I should have been. My time was limited because of tours and other group activities, and we were not there on Saturday. I did not see or go into a gallery by the dock. Our trek to find an Industriales cap took us through many streets and shops into town and away from the water.

ETA: if I had told our guide the first day I wanted to see local art, he would have shown me where to look. I could have gone back the second day when I was on my own. Oh, well. I bought some street art in Santiago and the baseball poster in Havana. I need more wall space!
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2019, 05:06:34 pm »
Yeah, I know, that's why I led with If you go back. Two days isn't really enough to even cover the basics.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2019, 05:24:17 pm »
Yeah, I know, that's why I led with If you go back. Two days isn't really enough to even cover the basics.

Going there solo and not on a cruise from the US is not the easiest thing. Is it easier from Panama? Are you a dual citizen?
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2019, 05:38:30 pm »
Going there solo and not on a cruise from the US is not the easiest thing. Is it easier from Panama? Are you a dual citizen?

It was my understanding that US citizens could only go on a group basis for educational purposes, rather than basic individual tourism.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2019, 05:42:50 pm »
When I went I just went. I left from Colombia if I recall correctly, but there was nothing to it. Now, thanks to dumbfuck, there is some additional paperwork required for American citizens if I understand correctly. I think you can simply attest to the fact that you are going for some approved purpose and the airline feels like they're covered. Any non US airline of course doesn't care about any of that nonsense, and of course as you know the Cubans are perfectly happy to welcome you. So I think what you have to do now is sign some document and give it to the airline.

If you fly from the US there is a different process that I understand is more involved.

I am not a Panamanian citizen but should be shortly.
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2019, 06:50:27 pm »
Great recap, and I am envious of your trip.  Cuba has been on my bucket list for a long time.  Some of my ancestors came to the US from Spain via Cuba, and my grandparents visited regularly in the 30s and 40s.  My uncle told a great story of getting drunk in a bar and getting in a fight with another drunk which resulted in both of them getting tossed in the local clink for the night.  Upon sobering up, he realized the other drunk, who was in the next cell, was Errol Flynn. 

I'm disappointed that you didn't remember what you had for lunch, however.  Cuban food is one of the great joys in life.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2019, 11:09:38 pm »
Did you run into Johnny Ola?
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2019, 12:37:49 am »
Did you run into Johnny Ola?

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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2019, 06:20:27 am »
It was my understanding that US citizens could only go on a group basis for educational purposes, rather than basic individual tourism.
 
Not sure. I have friends who, I think, went as individuals. I’ll ask them.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2019, 06:23:41 am »
Great recap, and I am envious of your trip.  Cuba has been on my bucket list for a long time.  Some of my ancestors came to the US from Spain via Cuba, and my grandparents visited regularly in the 30s and 40s.  My uncle told a great story of getting drunk in a bar and getting in a fight with another drunk which resulted in both of them getting tossed in the local clink for the night.  Upon sobering up, he realized the other drunk, who was in the next cell, was Errol Flynn. 

I'm disappointed that you didn't remember what you had for lunch, however.  Cuban food is one of the great joys in life.

I’ll give it more thought. What I had was great. The menu went on and on, and the restaurant was very nice.
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2019, 06:28:56 am »
When I went I just went. I left from Colombia if I recall correctly, but there was nothing to it. Now, thanks to dumbfuck, there is some additional paperwork required for American citizens if I understand correctly. I think you can simply attest to the fact that you are going for some approved purpose and the airline feels like they're covered. Any non US airline of course doesn't care about any of that nonsense, and of course as you know the Cubans are perfectly happy to welcome you. So I think what you have to do now is sign some document and give it to the airline.

If you fly from the US there is a different process that I understand is more involved.

I am not a Panamanian citizen but should be shortly.

Yes, there is a form, and we were required to keep one copy. There also is a visa costing $75 which Cuban immigration took from us the last night we were there. I was disappointed to not be able to keep it as a souvenir like I could with my Russia visa. I have the passport stamp.

I’ll look at the form and post the conditions. Bench may be correct.
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2019, 07:21:12 am »
It was my understanding that US citizens could only go on a group basis for educational purposes, rather than basic individual tourism.

This was the case in Nelson DeMille's The Cuban Affair.

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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2019, 08:30:39 am »
I am looking at the certication form. Group travel is not required, but individuals also must travel under a general or specific license. There are conditions set out in the US Code of Federal Regulations at 31 CFR Part 15. Educational exchange activities satisfy one condition but there are others. The Cubans do not appear to watch or to regulate this. The US government sets out the requirements.
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2019, 09:52:05 am »
HH: I had a shrimp dish with some sort of spicy red sauce. I do not remember the menu name. We had a large plate of banana chips for the table, and the Cuban coffee with a splash of rum was a nice touch.
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2019, 04:26:55 pm »
Wow. What a fun trip. I know a couple who visited Cuba while on Mexican vacations, I believe they took a flight out of Cancun.
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2019, 05:11:55 pm »
Wow. What a fun trip. I know a couple who visited Cuba while on Mexican vacations, I believe they took a flight out of Cancun.

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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2019, 08:49:41 pm »
HH: I had a shrimp dish with some sort of spicy red sauce. I do not remember the menu name. We had a large plate of banana chips for the table, and the Cuban coffee with a splash of rum was a nice touch.

Camarones enchiladas, I'm guessing.  Basically Cuban-style shrimp creole.  I like Cuban coffee, but it kicks my ass.  Adding a bit of rum sounds fun though.  I remember the old Cuban gents who used to hang around the barber shop when I was a kid.  They'd drink that coffee, play dominoes, and talk baseball.  All.  Day.  Long.
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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2019, 07:27:19 am »
Camarones enchiladas, I'm guessing.  Basically Cuban-style shrimp creole.  I like Cuban coffee, but it kicks my ass.  Adding a bit of rum sounds fun though.  I remember the old Cuban gents who used to hang around the barber shop when I was a kid.  They'd drink that coffee, play dominoes, and talk baseball.  All.  Day.  Long.

One of my friends had some sort of shrimp dish with rum. The waiter brought her plate along with a shot glass of rum, then poured the rum on the shrimp. Delicious! Her husband had pork, and our taxi drivers had heaping mounds of fried shrimp.  I am kicking myself for not buying Cuban coffee to bring home. The cigar store had 2 lb. packages, but I passed at that time and never saw it again.
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