Author Topic: Astros @ Rockies, July 25 (Read 10439 times)

HudsonHawk · « **on:** July 25, 2018, 08:46:04 pm »

Astros take a 2-1 lead in the 4th, but they butchered that catcher’s interference ruling. It’s not a dead ball. The Astros could have elected to take the play and scored the run there. Altuve did not have to go back to 3B. He scored the next hitter anyway, but that could have been a huge boner by Hinch.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #1 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:58:35 pm »

Altuve out with a knee injury.

Texifornia · « **Reply #2 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:00:50 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on July 25, 2018, 08:58:35 pm

Altuve out with a knee injury.

What happened? All I have is Gameday.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #3 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:02:31 pm »

Quote from: Texifornia on July 25, 2018, 09:00:50 pm

What happened? All I have is Gameday.

Just “discomfort” is the word now. Don’t know if it was anything specific. He wasn’t exactly on his horse on the double that should have been a triple.

DVauthrin · « **Reply #4 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:03:02 pm »

Quote from: Texifornia on July 25, 2018, 09:00:50 pm

What happened? All I have is Gameday.

He tweaked it trying to field a ground ball that turned into an infield single.

WVastro · « **Reply #5 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:04:14 pm »

At the game tonight. If you haven’t been to this stadium do try. It’s one of my favorites.

austro · « **Reply #6 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:04:23 pm »

Quote from: Texifornia on July 25, 2018, 09:00:50 pm

What happened? All I have is Gameday.

I think it happened some time ago, and it's just been building. When Altuve didn't get to third on that ball in the RF gap, I think AJ decided he was going to give him some rest and hope that with the off day tomorrow he'll be feeling better Friday.

MRaup · « **Reply #7 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:08:38 pm »

Oh you stupid motherfucker. Fucking idiot Astros fan.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #8 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:08:55 pm »

Bregman triple turned into an out by idiot Astro fan. Way to represent.

Nate Colbert · « **Reply #9 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:09:04 pm »

Get the rope.

MRaup · « **Reply #10 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:10:01 pm »

Kick that stupid fuck out.

MRaup · « **Reply #11 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:10:36 pm »

I'm not sure that was going to be caught either way. What the fuck was that dildo thinking?

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #12 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:10:59 pm »

What a brainless shithead.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #13 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:12:15 pm »

So if it's a Rockies fan, they can still get an automatic out on any tough play on the wall?

MRaup · « **Reply #14 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:12:25 pm »

Easy chance to get an insurance run erased but that stupid motherfucker.

jbm · « **Reply #15 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:15:51 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on July 25, 2018, 09:12:15 pm

So if it's a Rockies fan, they can still get an automatic out on any tough play on the wall?

Good question. If the dude has a Rockies shirt, it’s likely a double and the Rockies’ fans are saying “kick that motherfucker out.”

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #16 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:16:29 pm »

I think it's a horseshit call either way

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #17 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:20:10 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on July 25, 2018, 09:16:29 pm

I think it's a horseshit call either way

So you propose to let idiot fans interfere with balls in play?

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #18 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:21:20 pm »

Kick him out, send Bregman back to second, whatever - seems strange that fan interference is a massive boon for the home team on a very questionable catch opportunity

TerryPuhl21 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:22:09 pm »

Quote from: WVastro on July 25, 2018, 09:04:14 pm

At the game tonight. If you haven’t been to this stadium do try. It’s one of my favorites.

That wasn’t you in left trying to catch Bregman’s ball was it?

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Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #20 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:24:14 pm »

That guy is really a deep state Rockies fan posing as an Astros fan. He has been waiting to complete his assignment all season.

jbm · « **Reply #21 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:24:30 pm »

Is someone warming up?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #22 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:25:14 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on July 25, 2018, 09:21:20 pm

Kick him out, send Bregman back to second, whatever - seems strange that fan interference is a massive boon for the home team on a very questionable catch opportunity

It has nothing to do with the home team. If a fan prevents a fielder from an opportunity to catch a fly ball, the batter is out, whether it’s the home team or road team.

Lefty · « **Reply #23 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:25:23 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on July 25, 2018, 09:24:14 pm

That guy is really a deep state Rockies fan posing as an Astros fan. He has been waiting to complete his assignment all season.

Agent Dwayne? He looked like a Dwayne.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #24 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:27:55 pm »

Quote from: Lefty on July 25, 2018, 09:25:23 pm

Agent Dwayne? He looked like a Dwayne.

Also it's a known fact, Dwaynes always wear the visiting team's jersey.

jbm · « **Reply #25 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:28:54 pm »

One of Davis’ better plays.

Charlie!

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #26 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:30:01 pm »

Quote from: jbm on July 25, 2018, 09:28:54 pm

One of Davis’ better plays.

Charlie!

I was afraid he wasn’t going to touch it foul and it kick back and hit the bag.

MRaup · « **Reply #27 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:35:46 pm »

That fuckwad fan interference really sucked the wind out of the Astro Offense's sails.

austro · « **Reply #28 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:38:11 pm »

I'll say one thing for Tucker: it seems to be hard to get him to chase those pitches in the dirt.

austro · « **Reply #29 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:40:15 pm »

That call is going to be overturned; Tucker's going to be out.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #30 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:42:12 pm »

Wow. They fucked up the replay on the stolen base by Tucker. Call should have been confirmed, let alone upheld. But overturned? Are they smoking crack in NY?

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #31 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:42:27 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 25, 2018, 09:40:15 pm

That call is going to be overturned; Tucker's going to be out.

Wish you were wrong, but you're not.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #32 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:43:41 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on July 25, 2018, 09:42:12 pm

Wow. They fucked up the replay on the stolen base by Tucker. Call should have been confirmed, let alone upheld. But overturned? Are they smoking crack in NY?

My thoughts as well. I had relaxed.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #33 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:44:41 pm »

I didn't see conclusive evidence. Looked like the glove followed the shoe to the bag. I didn't see the glove flex as if it had connected with the shoe.

austro · « **Reply #34 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:51:55 pm »

If you keep putting baserunners on, somebody is going to accidentally drive one of them in.

austro · « **Reply #35 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:53:23 pm »

I can only dream of 60 degrees right now.

MusicMan · « **Reply #36 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:54:34 pm »

Quote from: VirtualBob on July 25, 2018, 09:43:41 pm

My thoughts as well. I had relaxed.

You settled. Never do that.

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VirtualBob · « **Reply #37 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:55:36 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on July 25, 2018, 09:54:34 pm

You settled. Never do that.

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I never seattle.

austro · « **Reply #38 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:57:37 pm »

Two fucking bloopshits, and now we're in trouble.

MRaup · « **Reply #39 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:59:29 pm »

Jesus Fucking Christ, Davis.

NeilT · « **Reply #40 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:59:35 pm »

Quote from: VirtualBob on July 25, 2018, 09:55:36 pm

I never seattle.

Because, Seattle. the marONRs.

hostros7 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:00:14 pm »

Would have been a helluva DP, but he airmailed it.

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MRaup · « **Reply #42 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:00:35 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on July 25, 2018, 10:00:14 pm

Would have been a helluva DP, but he airmailed it.

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He was out if the throw was on line.

MusicMan · « **Reply #43 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:01:21 pm »

That’s a tough way to allow the tying run.

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MRaup · « **Reply #44 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:02:09 pm »

Go sit the fuck down, Bud. You got your bullshit run on a 30 foot pop up.

hostros7 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:02:20 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on July 25, 2018, 10:00:35 pm

He was out if the throw was on line.

He would have been toast if JD had thrown a catchable ball.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #46 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:02:42 pm »

I can’t believe the umps didnt let all the runners score on further review

hostros7 · « **Reply #47 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:02:47 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on July 25, 2018, 10:02:20 pm

He would have been toast if JD had thrown a catchable ball.

Without causing Stassi to leap, at least.

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Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #48 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:02:50 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on July 25, 2018, 10:02:09 pm

Go sit the fuck down, Bud. You got your bullshit run on a 30 foot pop up.

Hear hear

Texifornia · « **Reply #49 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:03:02 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on July 25, 2018, 10:02:09 pm

Go sit the fuck down, Bud. You got your bullshit run on a 30 foot pop up.

WTF is he arguing about?

MRaup · « **Reply #50 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:04:52 pm »

Quote from: Texifornia on July 25, 2018, 10:03:02 pm

WTF is he arguing about?

Probably pleading his case for some form of interference that would give everyone 90 more feet.

I don't know what the actual rule is, but I can't recall a play at the dugout fence that players haven't helped keep their guy (and sometimes even the other team) from going head first over the fence.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #51 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:05:57 pm »

Blum had the same question I did: if Davis tumbles into the dugout, do all the runners get 90 feet?

astrojo · « **Reply #52 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:06:10 pm »

Well, it’s a miracle the Astros are even tied - they’ve mustered all of one hit. ONE.

austro · « **Reply #53 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:06:17 pm »

Quote from: Texifornia on July 25, 2018, 10:03:02 pm

WTF is he arguing about?

If the runner had been thrown out, I could see him arguing that Davis was aided by players not on the field. But this was pretty much the definition of "no harm, no foul".

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #54 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:06:55 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on July 25, 2018, 10:04:52 pm

Probably pleading his case for some form of interference that would give everyone 90 more feet.

I don't know what the actual rule is, but I can't recall a play at the dugout fence that players haven't helped keep their guy (and sometimes even the other team) from going head first over the fence.

I suspect something along these lines.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #55 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:07:09 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on July 25, 2018, 10:00:14 pm

Would have been a helluva DP, but he airmailed it.

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Looked to me like he hurt his hip/abs - probably some pain on that throw that caused him to flinch.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #56 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:08:39 pm »

Replay showed Gattis didn't realize the runner was going. He played JD on the side and was still in his airspace as he threw home.

austro · « **Reply #57 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:10:33 pm »

How do you go into Coors and get one hit?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #58 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:11:53 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on July 25, 2018, 10:05:57 pm

Blum had the same question I did: if Davis tumbles into the dugout, do all the runners get 90 feet?

Yes.

MusicMan · « **Reply #59 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:13:39 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 25, 2018, 10:10:33 pm

How do you go into Coors and get one hit?

That’s it? One goddamned hit?

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austro · « **Reply #60 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:14:27 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on July 25, 2018, 10:13:39 pm

That’s it? One goddamned hit?

And the guy who hit it is no longer in the game.

astrojo · « **Reply #61 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:14:57 pm »

Stassi sold the foul in the dirt.

Texifornia · « **Reply #62 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:16:50 pm »

Quote from: astrojo on July 25, 2018, 10:14:57 pm

Stassi sold the foul in the dirt.

So did McHugh with the way he turned his back and walked around the mound.

Texifornia · « **Reply #63 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:18:58 pm »

Outfield shiftfuck.

austro · « **Reply #64 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:19:55 pm »

Quote from: Texifornia on July 25, 2018, 10:18:58 pm

Outfield shiftfuck.

That's a relatively easy catch if they aren't shifted all the way over to Englewood.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #65 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:20:12 pm »

Pretty fortunate that Hampson ball 1) stayed in the park and 2) didn't carom back toward center/RF.

MusicMan · « **Reply #66 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:20:51 pm »

#CFM also refers to McHugh.

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austro · « **Reply #67 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:21:39 pm »

Time for Bregman to get some payback for that earlier screw job.

hostros7 · « **Reply #68 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:24:58 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 25, 2018, 10:21:39 pm

Time for Bregman to get some payback for that earlier screw job.

They doubled down instead.

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MRaup · « **Reply #69 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:26:23 pm »

Boy, the 1B and 3B umps must have an early flight. If you could've gone around, you went around tonight.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #70 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:27:24 pm »

This is the worst all-around officiating I’ve seen this year

austro · « **Reply #71 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:27:46 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on July 25, 2018, 10:26:23 pm

Boy, the 1B and 3B umps must have an early flight. If you could've gone around, you went around tonight.

Yeah, Bregman got screwed there, but some Rockie got screwed exactly the same way earlier.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #72 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:28:09 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on July 25, 2018, 10:24:58 pm

They doubled down instead.

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Ok blue, that makes us even for the foul ball in the dirt strikeout.

austro · « **Reply #73 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:28:15 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on July 25, 2018, 10:27:24 pm

This is the worst all-around officiating I’ve seen this year

Then you've missed a few games.

MRaup · « **Reply #74 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:31:44 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 25, 2018, 10:27:46 pm

Yeah, Bregman got screwed there, but some Rockie got screwed exactly the same way earlier.

Yeah, they're been all around bad on check swings.

austro · « **Reply #75 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:32:31 pm »

Nine innings, one hit. Nice.

Lefty · « **Reply #76 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:33:15 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 25, 2018, 10:32:31 pm

Nine innings, one hit. Nice.

At Coors Field.

Snuffy · « **Reply #77 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:35:18 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 25, 2018, 10:32:31 pm

Nine innings, one hit. Nice.

And tied, 2-2.
Unbelievable.

austro · « **Reply #78 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:36:30 pm »

Quote from: Snuffy on July 25, 2018, 10:35:18 pm

And tied, 2-2.
Unbelievable.

Tying run driven in on a foul pop-up caught 45 feet from home plate.

BudGirl · « **Reply #79 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:36:39 pm »

Has there ever been no hitter at coors field?

austro · « **Reply #80 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:37:14 pm »

The winning hit traveled a little further, however.

BudGirl · « **Reply #81 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:37:26 pm »

Only good thing about this game ending is we should be done with eschenfelder.

MRaup · « **Reply #82 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:37:34 pm »

Well, filled that one under P for pissed away.

What a shitburger of a game from the offense.

WVastro · « **Reply #83 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:37:47 pm »

That sucked.

astrojo · « **Reply #84 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:37:49 pm »

And no longer tied. Last night’s goat walks it off.

hostros7 · « **Reply #85 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:38:03 pm »

Shit.

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MusicMan · « **Reply #86 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:38:18 pm »

Well shit.

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austro · « **Reply #87 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:38:27 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on July 25, 2018, 10:36:39 pm

Has there ever been no hitter at coors field?

Hideo Nomo, in 1996.

MusicMan · « **Reply #88 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:38:38 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on July 25, 2018, 10:36:39 pm

Has there ever been no hitter at coors field?

Pretty sure Hideo Nono threw one there.

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Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #89 on:** July 25, 2018, 10:39:10 pm »

1 hit.

Pathetic, but rest up tmw and get back at it Friday.

jbm · « **Reply #90 on:** July 26, 2018, 08:13:13 am »

It's not like they've been stinking up the joint lately, but they need to wake up and shake those clubs behind them in the standings. The A's pull out another and inch a bit closer.

juliogotay · « **Reply #91 on:** July 26, 2018, 09:45:19 am »

Quote from: MRaup on July 25, 2018, 09:35:46 pm

That fuckwad fan interference really sucked the wind out of the Astro Offense's sails.

that's the 3rd x this season Fan Interference has effected an Astros game. The two previously at MMP. (1) fan catching a FB from Piscotty of the A's that Stassi hit. (2) Kemp's double down the RF line that kept a second run from scoring. The one where the wife chewed the dumbass out before the usher removed him.

Snuffy · « **Reply #92 on:** July 26, 2018, 09:55:09 am »

Quote from: austro on July 25, 2018, 10:27:46 pm

Yeah, Bregman got screwed there, but some Rockie got screwed exactly the same way earlier.

imho: The last thing the Astros need right now is for Bergman to get suspended for pulling a "Giles", leaving the Astros without one of their best hitters any time, but especially during the offensive struggles.

Fan interference and bad calls happen, and are out of a player's control. But, for the sake of the team, ~~Berkman~~ Bergman (TY, BUDGIRL for the edit) needs to control his emotions as well as he controls the strike zone. He needs to protect his at bats and take his swings. He is worthless on the bench.

That's exactly where the other AL contenders want him.

BudGirl · « **Reply #93 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:07:44 am »

Quote from: Snuffy on July 26, 2018, 09:55:09 am

imho: The last thing the Astros need right now is for Bergman to get suspended for pulling a "Giles", leaving the Astros without one of their best hitters any time, but especially during the offensive struggles.

Fan interference and bad calls happen, and are out of a player's control. But, for the sake of the team, ~~Berkman~~ Bregman needs to control his emotions as well as he controls the strike zone. He needs to protect his at bats and take his swings. He is worthless on the bench.

That's exactly where the other AL contenders want him.

I think Hinch probably told him that last night.

oh, and FIFY.

hostros7 · « **Reply #94 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:16:48 am »

Quote from: BudGirl on July 26, 2018, 10:07:44 am

oh, and FIFY.

This was an exceedingly polite response.

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JimR · « **Reply #95 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:31:57 am »

affected, not effected

Any random LLer could have made the throw Davis fucked up last night. Great catch but.....

Snuffy · « **Reply #96 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:32:30 am »

Quote from: BudGirl on July 26, 2018, 10:07:44 am

I think Hinch probably told him that last night.

oh, and FIFY.

TY, BUDGIRL, should not post in a hurry.
Thanks again,

Bench · « **Reply #97 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:52:17 am »

Rule 3.16
When there is spectator interference with any thrown or batted ball, the ball shall be dead at the moment of interference and the umpire shall impose such penalties as in his opinion will nullify the act of interference.

APPROVED RULING: If spectator interference clearly prevents a fielder from catching a fly ball, the umpire shall declare the batter out.

Rule 3.16 Comment: There is a difference between a ball which has been thrown or batted into the stands, touching a spectator thereby being out of play even though it rebounds onto the field and a spectator going onto the field or reaching over, under or through a barrier and touching a ball in play or touching or otherwise interfering with a player. In the latter case it is clearly intentional and shall be dealt with as intentional interference as in Rule 3.15. Batter and runners shall be placed where in the umpire’s judgment they would have been had the interference not occurred.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #98 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:52:59 am »

Quote from: jbm on July 26, 2018, 08:13:13 am

It's not like they've been stinking up the joint lately, but they need to wake up and shake those clubs behind them in the standings. The A's pull out another and inch a bit closer.

They went 8 innings Tuesday without a hit, and managed 1 official hit last night. With Arlington coming to town, let's hope we see some barrels on balls from the home team.

And eventually a healthy Correa should help.

Snuffy · « **Reply #99 on:** July 26, 2018, 12:23:49 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on July 26, 2018, 10:07:44 am

I think Hinch probably told him that last night.

oh, and FIFY.

TY for your polite response. Bergman is so wired b/c he is trying to carry the team right now...

MRaup · « **Reply #100 on:** July 26, 2018, 12:24:46 pm »

Quote from: Snuffy on July 26, 2018, 12:23:49 pm

TY for your polite response. Bergman is so wired b/c he is trying to carry the team right now...

He also has a pretty good point in his raving.

Snuffy · « **Reply #101 on:** July 26, 2018, 12:26:30 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on July 26, 2018, 12:24:46 pm

He also has a pretty good point in his raving.

....likely the reason the umps gave him grace last night.

MRaup · « **Reply #102 on:** July 26, 2018, 01:03:57 pm »

Quote from: Snuffy on July 26, 2018, 12:26:30 pm

....likely the reason the umps gave him grace last night.

I thought his behavior on the field was pretty cool, all things considered. The bullshit check swing call was questionable at best, and the 1st and 3rd base umps had been pretty brutal all game. Bregman was already on his way to the dugout when Hinch came out to get him.

His post-game interview rant, on the other hand, the world probably could've done without.

austro · « **Reply #103 on:** July 26, 2018, 08:00:17 pm »

In a revolting development, Odor is en fuego right now: .400+ BA, 1.100 OPS. I really don't want to see his punk-ass do well this weekend.

Aussie Astro · « **Reply #104 on:** July 26, 2018, 08:35:02 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on July 25, 2018, 09:42:12 pm

Wow. They fucked up the replay on the stolen base by Tucker. Call should have been confirmed, let alone upheld. But overturned? Are they smoking crack in NY?

Even worse call in the TB game tonight I think, I don't remember them taking so long on such an easy call and still fuck it up. Choi had a what looked like a home run taken away because of fan interference, it was a horrible call I think. I don't blame the umps for not getting right in the first place but why use replays if you get it wrong in the end anyway?