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Infinity War (Spoilers)
« on: May 01, 2018, 09:46:43 pm »
Holy fucking shit!  That went way darker than I could’ve imagined. 
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2018, 09:51:07 pm »
Holy fucking shit!  That went way darker than I could’ve imagined.

No surprise.  Ruffalo gave it away last year.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2018, 08:42:29 am »
No surprise.  Ruffalo gave it away last year.

I try and stay away from spoilers etc. 

I watched a YouTube clip explaining the ending and, it seems, this is following very closely to the comic book, even to the point of mimicking some of the actual panels.  So the story is out there!

I’m assuming that only the likes of Loki, Heimdel (sp?) and Vision are actually dead, and the half of the universe who crumbled to dust are resurrectable somehow.  Also, Capt Marvel, Ant Man and the Wasp and Hawkeye will have some say in it, I’m sure. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2018, 08:54:52 am »
  Also, Capt Marvel, Ant Man and the Wasp and Hawkeye will have some say in it, I’m sure.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2018, 08:57:56 am »
Captain Marvel is in it?

That's her sign on Fury's device.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2018, 08:58:27 am »
I try and stay away from spoilers etc. 

I watched a YouTube clip explaining the ending and, it seems, this is following very closely to the comic book, even to the point of mimicking some of the actual panels.  So the story is out there!

I’m assuming that only the likes of Loki, Heimdel (sp?) and Vision are actually dead, and the half of the universe who crumbled to dust are resurrectable somehow.  Also, Capt Marvel, Ant Man and the Wasp and Hawkeye will have some say in it, I’m sure.

I know that Ant Man and Captain Marvel will.
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2018, 09:14:15 am »
Captain Marvel is a she? Well it is 2018.
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2018, 09:24:46 am »
Captain Marvel is a she? Well it is 2018.

Brie Larson is debuting as Captain Marvel next spring (prior to Infinity War Part Deux).  It will be a back-story piece based in the 90s, I understand.  I’m also assuming that Ant Man and the Wasp will explain their absence from Infinity War Jong-Un, and set them up for cavalry duty next summer. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2018, 09:47:03 am »
That was really well done. Especially Thanos.  Not a one dimensional arch villain.  Those writers are good.

I was worried about my 10 year old but he took it all in stride (when we saw Civil War he thought Capt America killed Tony Stark when he smashed the generator thing with his shield,  took me awhile to calm him down).

The looper you tube videos helped fill in some blanks for me.

I'm guessing Dr Strange saw it all and knew he had to give the time stone to Thanos.

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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2018, 11:11:57 am »
Captain Marvel is a she? Well it is 2018.

I think the comic book character was written as woman a long time ago.
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2018, 11:13:22 am »
That was really well done. Especially Thanos.  Not a one dimensional arch villain.  Those writers are good.

I was worried about my 10 year old but he took it all in stride (when we saw Civil War he thought Capt America killed Tony Stark when he smashed the generator thing with his shield,  took me awhile to calm him down).

The looper you tube videos helped fill in some blanks for me.

I'm guessing Dr Strange saw it all and knew he had to give the time stone to Thanos.

I agree on the quality of the character and movie.  There is no question Strange is following the one path to victory.
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2018, 11:14:44 am »
That was really well done. Especially Thanos.  Not a one dimensional arch villain.  Those writers are good.

I was worried about my 10 year old but he took it all in stride (when we saw Civil War he thought Capt America killed Tony Stark when he smashed the generator thing with his shield,  took me awhile to calm him down).

The looper you tube videos helped fill in some blanks for me.

I'm guessing Dr Strange saw it all and knew he had to give the time stone to Thanos.

Agreed.  Thanos’ motivation is twisted but still better than most super villains who want to destroy the world / universe just because. 

Dr. Strange uncryptically stated that this was the winning strategy just before he crumbled. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2018, 11:22:05 am »
I think the comic book character was written as woman a long time ago.
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2018, 09:24:08 pm »
Why haven’t half the Agents of Shield crumbled to dust?
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2018, 09:52:20 pm »
Why haven’t half the Agents of Shield crumbled to dust?

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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2018, 12:01:01 pm »
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Now THAT’S the most ambitious crossover event in history.


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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2018, 03:08:29 pm »
Now THAT’S the most ambitious crossover event in history.


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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2018, 07:34:16 pm »
Just wait until Woody and Buzz show up in the next movie.

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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2018, 08:09:10 pm »
Nothing has ever been more disturbing than the theory that Andy’s mom named Woody and Buzz.

I've never heard that theory, and now I'll whenever I watch that I'll be looking for more substantiation. My grandson will not understand my snickers.
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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2018, 09:00:54 am »
Wow! Good movie.
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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2018, 08:30:41 am »
I’m all caught up now, having just seen Ant-Man and the Wasp (it’s entertaining but I think they were trying too hard on the comedy, so a lot of it fell flat).  Of course (spoiler alert), the mid-credit clip has Pym, Janet and Hope crumble away leaving Scott in the Quantum Realm with a tube full of “healing particles”. 

The movie still doesn’t explain his absence from the events of Infinity War, but it does leave him in an interesting predicament.  Janet warned him to stay away from the time vortexes in the Quantum Realm, suggesting that he could jump back in time and change something for the better.  Also, there’s also Ghost and Morpheus around to do something too. 

I’m sure more will be foreshadowed in Captain Marvel...
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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2018, 08:10:11 am »
I haven't seen either of the Any Man movies, but didn't they address him early on in IW? I thought I remember a throwaway line saying that both Ant Man and Hawkeye were on "house arrest."

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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2018, 10:57:23 am »
I haven't seen either of the Any Man movies, but didn't they address him early on in IW? I thought I remember a throwaway line saying that both Ant Man and Hawkeye were on "house arrest."

You’re missing out if you haven’t seen Ant-Man.  It’s so good.  And if you see the first, you might as well watch the second.  They should have Michael Peña in every Marvel movie to handle exposition the way he does in the Ant-Man movies!

Anyway, Ant-Man’s house arrest ends seemingly a long time before the Snapture, so there’s no physical reason why he wasn’t involved.  I’ve seen it posited that the IW events were isolated - in Earth terms - to NYC and Wakanda.  Ant-Man hates Stark, so he wouldn’t bother to join in that fight, which seemed to be sorted anyway when the evil donut went back into space.  Meanwhile, the events in Wakanda escalated quickly (I mean, they really got out of hand) and we’re pretty remote, so Ant-Man may not have been aware.  The latter is a bit of a stretch as you’d think Cap. would’ve called him, but still.

Either way, the Ant-Man movie doesn’t explain it at all.
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2018, 07:11:22 pm »
Pretty sure the house arrest angle was the writers way of explaining the absence of Hawkeye and The Antman.  And yes,  it's a little flimsy that Cap (Cap? Cap?!) wouldn't have rounded up everyone but hey,  they had to make 2 movies.

Agree that Michelle Pfeiffer's last minute instructions to Scott will likely prove important.

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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2018, 12:27:23 pm »
Pretty sure the house arrest angle was the writers way of explaining the absence of Hawkeye and The Antman.  And yes,  it's a little flimsy that Cap (Cap? Cap?!) wouldn't have rounded up everyone but hey,  they had to make 2 movies.

Agree that Michelle Pfeiffer's last minute instructions to Scott will likely prove important.

Also: I still love Michelle Pfeiffer.

That has to be it, but it's pretty weak.  It only makes sense that the entire timeline of AM&TW, up to the mid-credits scene with the scaled down quantum tunnel already built into the back of the van, somehow happens simultaneously with much of the time line of IW, which itself is pretty compressed.
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2018, 12:05:04 pm »
Pretty sure the house arrest angle was the writers way of explaining the absence of Hawkeye and The Antman.  And yes,  it's a little flimsy that Cap (Cap? Cap?!) wouldn't have rounded up everyone but hey,  they had to make 2 movies.

Just another comment on the weakness of the house arrest excuse (and then I'll stop); they used an enlarged ant to get around the house arrest problem in AM&TW, so why would that not have worked in order to get a fairly powerful ally in to the IW fight?

By solving the problem for AM&TW, they torpedoed their own rationale for IW.
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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2018, 09:12:56 pm »
Just another comment on the weakness of the house arrest excuse (and then I'll stop); they used an enlarged ant to get around the house arrest problem in AM&TW, so why would that not have worked in order to get a fairly powerful ally in to the IW fight?

By solving the problem for AM&TW, they torpedoed their own rationale for IW.

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« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2018, 10:57:52 am »
So James Gunn is definitely not coming back for Guardians Vol. 3.  Given that the stars of the GotG franchise have all campaigned for Gunn to be reinstated, I wonder if there's an emergency re-write for Avengers 4 going on right now.  Maybe the Guardians don't make it back from the Snappening.
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« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2018, 12:39:52 pm »
I think it'll continue. GotG is way to profitable for Disney, Marvel and the actors. Bautista has stated he does not want to return if Gunn isn't brought back. The others have stood in support to bringing him back, but I haven't seen a sit it out stance from them.

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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2018, 03:12:31 pm »
I think it'll continue. GotG is way to profitable for Disney, Marvel and the actors. Bautista has stated he does not want to return if Gunn isn't brought back. The others have stood in support to bringing him back, but I haven't seen a sit it out stance from them.

Reports now circulating of reshoots on Avengers 4.  The studio insists that it's just customary reshoots, and it may well be, but there is also speculation that it may be to change the fates of some of the Guardians who might not be coming back for Vol. 3.
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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2019, 08:12:05 am »
Having now seen Captain Marvel, I’m now set and anxious for Endgame.  I have faith that they will get this right, the stakes could not be higher after 10 years and 18 movies. 

Re: CM, cudos for the meta casting of Ben Mendelsson (sp?) as Tulos, because our brains are already completely conditioned to see him as the villain.  It was a little jarring getting an origin story (actually 2) this deep into it, but I recognize there’s no way they could have introduced anyone as powerful as Danvers before the end because we’d all wonder where she was.

Also, Re Guardians 3, Gunn is back in. 
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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2019, 10:48:33 am »

Re: CM, cudos for the meta casting of Ben Mendelsson (sp?) as Tulos, because our brains are already completely conditioned to see him as the villain.  It was a little jarring getting an origin story (actually 2) this deep into it, but I recognize there’s no way they could have introduced anyone as powerful as Danvers before the end because we’d all wonder where she was.


Said exactly this about Mendelsson too.  He plays such a good villain that the twist really got me.  I think this Skrull twist and the "Vulture is her dad" are the only two genuinely surprising reveals in the whole franchise.
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2019, 08:30:09 pm »
If you haven’t yet, you’re going to want to watch Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. 

Not only is it a rollickingly good Marvel movie, you need to see it before you see Endgame.  Especially, the mid- and post-credit scenes.  Specifically, the post-credit scene is both absolutely hilarious and absolutely pivotal to how Endgame is purported to play out.

Also, Marvel finally figured out how to cram the last Hollywood Chris (Pine) into the MCU.
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« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2019, 01:19:44 pm »
If you haven’t yet, you’re going to want to watch Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. 

Not only is it a rollickingly good Marvel movie, you need to see it before you see Endgame.  Especially, the mid- and post-credit scenes.  Specifically, the post-credit scene is both absolutely hilarious and absolutely pivotal to how Endgame is purported to play out.

Also, Marvel finally figured out how to cram the last Hollywood Chris (Pine) into the MCU.

This is my son's favorite movie (for now).  We're pondering a group Halloween costume of the various Spiders.
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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2019, 01:22:03 pm »
This is my son's favorite movie (for now).  We're pondering a group Halloween costume of the various Spiders.

In my house we would all insist on being Peter Porker.
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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2019, 01:32:38 pm »
This is my son's favorite movie (for now).  We're pondering a group Halloween costume of the various Spiders.

I’m assuming you’ll be Spider-Noir.  I would insist on it!
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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2019, 01:43:23 pm »
I’m assuming you’ll be Spider-Noir.  I would insist on it!

We were thinking the paunchy Peter B. Parker.  Buy a costume one size too small.  Younger brother is absolutely Spider-Ham.
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« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2019, 10:52:49 am »
There's a new, 60-second trailer on Twitter etc.  It shows a lot of stuff that might be from later in the movie (Marvel having made it clear that we've not yet seen anything much beyond the first 20 minutes in).

[DON'T READ ON IF YOU DON'T LIKE TRAILER-SPOILERS]









It starts with a discussion by the remaining Avengers about having to do something even though they're "short-handed".  “You mean because they killed all our friends?” explains Rhodey.

It shows Stark reconciling with Rogers and  separately reuniting with Pepper Potts.  We hadn't seen her yet in the trailers, so she appears to have survived the snap...or this is from the end of the movie after she's been returned from whence she was snapped to.

There's a shot of the Benatar which is being crewed by Danvers, Rocket, Thor, Romanoff, Rogers and Rhoadey - none of them wearing the white armor we've seen in other trailers - all off on some mission somewhere.  We knew that Stark and Nebula made it back because they're shown in in the white suit march in an earlier trailer, but this shows that other surviving heroes went and did something with it.

Lastly, the trailer closes with a shot of Thanos, in armor, sitting - seemingly exhausted - surrounded by debris, being faced down by the three out-of-contract Avengers:  Iron Man, Captain America and Thor.  I doubt that's from the denouement of the movie.
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2019, 10:09:21 am »
The hot takes are in for Endgame, and they are gushing.  We're told to bring tissues...lots of tissues...and to expect to be blown away.  They say it's a truly satisfying end to the 22-movie arc, and that the trailers and fan theories don't tell you anything.  They say it wildly surpasses expectations.

Stoked!
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« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2019, 11:17:27 am »
Also saying there is a possibility for Endgame to hit the 1 billion mark for a worldwide opening weekend. Opening weekend...
https://www.thewrap.com/could-avengers-endgame-actually-make-1-billion-in-its-opening-weekend/

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« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2019, 08:13:12 pm »
Also saying there is a possibility for Endgame to hit the 1 billion mark for a worldwide opening weekend. Opening weekend...
https://www.thewrap.com/could-avengers-endgame-actually-make-1-billion-in-its-opening-weekend/

I'm throwing my money into that pot!
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« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2019, 07:23:58 am »
I'm throwing my money into that pot!
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« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2019, 08:50:02 am »
I will be also! My son has ball games this weekend so I'll have to tiptoe the internet to remain spoiler free until we can see it next weekend.

I'm going Tuesday night.  Zipp's already been, so avoid him like the measles.
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« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2019, 12:04:32 pm »
Went last night.  Great movie.  Pacing suffered at certain points and I thought Infinity War was the better movie of the two, but Endgame was still a hell of a lot fun and well worth the price of admission.  Don't think anyone will be disappointed.
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« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2019, 01:15:45 am »
Also saying there is a possibility for Endgame to hit the 1 billion mark for a worldwide opening weekend. Opening weekend...
https://www.thewrap.com/could-avengers-endgame-actually-make-1-billion-in-its-opening-weekend/

Here in Korea Endgame was showing on 84% of theaters and now the government wants to look into putting stricter rules on foreign media.

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« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2019, 02:04:32 am »
Here in Korea Endgame was showing on 84% of theaters and now the government wants to look into putting stricter rules on foreign media.

Here in Sumatra, it's playing on 100% of the screens (at least in this city of 1.1 million), and it's sold out for the next week or so.
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« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2019, 04:06:30 am »
Here in Sumatra, it's playing on 100% of the screens (at least in this city of 1.1 million), and it's sold out for the next week or so.

Even at 84% it was damn near impossible getting good seats at a reasonable hour but the theaters here are open almost 24 hours.

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Here in Korea Endgame was showing on 84% of theaters and now the government wants to look into putting stricter rules on foreign media.

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« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2019, 09:21:34 am »
Went last night.  Great movie.  Pacing suffered at certain points and I thought Infinity War was the better movie of the two, but Endgame was still a hell of a lot fun and well worth the price of admission.  Don't think anyone will be disappointed.

Agreed.  Not disappointed at all.  I think they skillfully blended a buhzillion characters into the plot, but it did leave me hoping that there's a LOTR-esque extended edition coming that adds back about an hour.  For example, the final climactic battle seemed to be missing a lot of action - something that will be starkly highlighted (get it?) when watch back-to-back with Infinity War, where the final battle going on simultaneously in Wakanda and on Titan was rich, intense and completely invested in all the protagonists.  Endgame seemed more like, oh now we should show Spider-Man doing something because it's his turn.  Also, Captain Marvel was massively under-used and seemed to just show up when needed, Deus ex Machina-style.  I truly hope there's a whole bunch of good character stuff - and ball-stomping stuff - ready to be added back to an extended version.

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I thought the end of the arcs for Stark and Rogers were great.  Stark goes out the hero and Rogers gets to have the life that was stolen from him.  Of course, having made a very big deal out of how time travel movies completely fuck up the time paradox, Rogers goes and does exactly that.  We already know that Peggy Carter went on to have a life - and a family - without Rogers, so him going back and inserting himself (if you know what I mean) into Carter's life, he completely pollutes that timeline; it ends the existence of Carter's daughter, who was pivotal in Winter Soldier which now, of course, can't happen.  Oh, and they killed Thanos away from his previous timeline too, because he  traveled forward from GotG 1 to the very end, where he gets dusted, so he cannot now go back and set all these things in motion.  I get it, but don't shit all over the genre for screwing up the principles, and then mega-fuck the principles yourself.

I get that Stark and Rogers may have run their course, at least contractually, but they leave to very large character holes to fill.  One character seemingly being groomed for that during Endgame was Black Widow, who then Gamora'd herself on Vormir and is gone forever.  Even Professor Hulk couldn't bring her back with all six stones.  It was very disappointing (not that I wanted to see Barton eat it either), but it also didn't make much sense because you could argue that Barton had already lost everything he loved, so Romanov might not rise to the level required by the Soul Stone; ditto Barton given Romanov's romance with Banner.  It seemed more a contrived thing to act as a shock - i.e. everyone's in true peril because look who just died - and it's very weird considering that there's a Black Widow movie on the cards.  Perhaps the worst part was how she was glossed over rather quickly and not given anywhere near the send off that Stark got.  She's been in the MCU since the third movie (by release date, 4th chronologically), is a major character and, of course, an OG Avenger.
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Further, there’s evidence that he disclosed this plan to Bucky - who gives him a strangely emotional goodbye for someone expected back in 5 seconds, and then is the one to tell Sam to go talk to Steve.

I think “Phase 4” or whatever they call it will dig deep into the comic ideas of parallel timelines/universes. We know Steve creates one. We know Loki creates another when he takes the Tesseract. We can presume that whatever Steve did with Mjolnir creates yet another.
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The directors have already stated that Old Steve is from a different timeline and that he somehow jumped back to our timeline prior to waiting at the bench.
Further, there’s evidence that he disclosed this plan to Bucky - who gives him a strangely emotional goodbye for someone expected back in 5 seconds, and then is the one to tell Sam to go talk to Steve.

I think “Phase 4” or whatever they call it will dig deep into the comic ideas of parallel timelines/universes. We know Steve creates one. We know Loki creates another when he takes the Tesseract. We can presume that whatever Steve did with Mjolnir creates yet another.

I also wonder what exactly Captain Marvel 2 will entail, because their employment of her in Endgame clearly shows that they know she’s a cheat code.


It's great that they explained it all after the event, but wouldn't it be better to explain it, you know, within the movie?  I've seen Spidey's multiverse adventure, but they made it out to be so linear here that I never made the leap of logic.  I guess we saw him grab a fistful of Pym particles which would let him move back and forth a few times at least, but that's in the same timeline, not across universes.

In all that was going on, I completely forgot that Loki snaffled the 2012 Tesseract and, like Gamora, is resurrected, in a manner of speaking.  Maybe this is how they get Romanov back too.

At this point, Captain Marvel is completely indestructible and irresistible (i.e. she can just trash entire spaceships by flying through them a la Holdo - must be a Disney thing) so it's hard to see how they can create any suspense.  For example, it was kind of silly and pander-y when they lined up all the women on the battlefield to help Danvers get the glove across some real estate when we'd just seen her go binary through Thanos' spaceship.  That's what they're going to have to deal with going forward.  Maybe they can use the OG Superman and Dark Knight dilemma plot device whereby she can save one but not the other of two interests in peril, but that's only good for one movie.  Oh, and then there's Evil Danvers from another universe, so that's two movies.  I really hope I'm wrong about both of these.
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At this point, Captain Marvel is completely indestructible and irresistible (i.e. she can just trash entire spaceships by flying through them a la Holdo - must be a Disney thing) so it's hard to see how they can create any suspense.  For example, it was kind of silly and pander-y when they lined up all the women on the battlefield to help Danvers get the glove across some real estate when we'd just seen her go binary through Thanos' spaceship.  That's what they're going to have to deal with going forward.  Maybe they can use the OG Superman and Dark Knight dilemma plot device whereby she can save one but not the other of two interests in peril, but that's only good for one movie.  Oh, and then there's Evil Danvers from another universe, so that's two movies.  I really hope I'm wrong about both of these.

There are people and things in the cosmic side of Marvel that make Thanos look like Stilt Man. That's who Carol is going to fight in the future. Plus we know the Eternals are in the works and we've seen the head of a Celestial. Not to mention Galactus is now in play.

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« Reply #54 on: May 02, 2019, 09:22:47 am »
At this point, Captain Marvel is completely indestructible and irresistible (i.e. she can just trash entire spaceships by flying through them a la Holdo - must be a Disney thing) so it's hard to see how they can create any suspense.  For example, it was kind of silly and pander-y when they lined up all the women on the battlefield to help Danvers get the glove across some real estate when we'd just seen her go binary through Thanos' spaceship.  That's what they're going to have to deal with going forward.  Maybe they can use the OG Superman and Dark Knight dilemma plot device whereby she can save one but not the other of two interests in peril, but that's only good for one movie.  Oh, and then there's Evil Danvers from another universe, so that's two movies.  I really hope I'm wrong about both of these.

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« Reply #55 on: May 04, 2019, 07:24:30 pm »
There are people and things in the cosmic side of Marvel that make Thanos look like Stilt Man. That's who Carol is going to fight in the future. Plus we know the Eternals are in the works and we've seen the head of a Celestial. Not to mention Galactus is now in play.

Do you know who owns the right to the Silver Surfer these days? 

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« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2019, 07:27:27 pm »
I saw Endgame at the 9:30 am show this morning and it was totally packed. (The movie was ok, agreed Infinity war was the better one).

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« Reply #57 on: May 04, 2019, 08:29:30 pm »
Just saw it.

Well done.

And I don't think 'well done' covers it for the whole 20+ movie NCU achievement.   Wow.   

Agree with most of the points above.   The questions raised will no doubt get answered in the next 20+ movies.  And I'll be happy to watch them.

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« Reply #58 on: May 04, 2019, 08:48:24 pm »
And fat Thor was a stroke of genius.

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« Reply #59 on: May 04, 2019, 11:08:15 pm »
And fat Thor was a stroke of genius.

Especially as they clearly had the Lebowski thing going from the start. 

Quill dancing and singing without the inside soundtrack was hilarious too. 
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Do you know who owns the right to the Silver Surfer these days? 

Not sure you can make a good movie from him, but still essential Marvel character.
Silver Surfer was part of Fox. Now that Disney has acquired Fox, Silver Surfer is...will be...er should be part of the MCU.

Supposedly there are plans for a Silver Surfer movie.
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Silver Surfer was part of Fox. Now that Disney has acquired Fox, Silver Surfer is...will be...er should be part of the MCU.

Supposedly there are plans for a Silver Surfer movie.
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/marvel-studios-planning-silver-surfer-origins-movie/

I also read that the massive energy surge that traveled around the globe from Thanos' first snap will pave the way for Disney to introduce mutants.  Now they have a reason for them to be around.
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« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2019, 09:35:37 am »
Especially as they clearly had the Lebowski thing going from the start. 

Quill dancing and singing without the inside soundtrack was hilarious too.

At Tony's memorial service he had black fingerless gloves that matched his suit.

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« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2019, 01:01:21 pm »
Especially as they clearly had the Lebowski thing going from the start. 

Quill dancing and singing without the inside soundtrack was hilarious too.
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I also read that the massive energy surge that traveled around the globe from Thanos' first snap will pave the way for Disney to introduce mutants.  Now they have a reason for them to be around.
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Weirdly, I'm not in the least interested in the X Men Dark Phoenix movie. I thought First Class was good, Days Of Future Past was great and then was really looking forward to Age Of Apocalypse. IMO Fox dropped the ball with Apocalypse.

Glad the rights are now back with Marvel. I expect good things MCU. Ok?

Yep, X-Men movies have been patchy, but now it's all in one house, it's going to get very complicated, methinks.

On the flip side - Deadpool + Guardians.
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« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2019, 02:15:31 pm »
Silver Surfer was part of Fox. Now that Disney has acquired Fox, Silver Surfer is...will be...er should be part of the MCU.

Supposedly there are plans for a Silver Surfer movie.
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/marvel-studios-planning-silver-surfer-origins-movie/

I think you need a Tarkovsky or a Kubrick to make a Silver Surfer movie, but ok will see how it goes.

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Yep, X-Men movies have been patchy, but now it's all in one house, it's going to get very complicated, methinks.

Like Wanda and Quicksilver already making appearances when Magneto (MCU) hasn't. Although I think they did something in the comics recently to undo him being good old dad. I haven't kept up with the comics since the early 90's

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Like Wanda and Quicksilver already making appearances when Magneto (MCU) hasn't. Although I think they did something in the comics recently to undo him being good old dad. I haven't kept up with the comics since the early 90's
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I was just a little let down. Although I generally don't mind it in science fiction movies, I felt like the time travel angle was a bit of a cop-out in a super hero movie. It was pretty good.
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I was just a little let down. Although I generally don't mind it in science fiction movies, I felt like the time travel angle was a bit of a cop-out in a super hero movie. It was pretty good.

I was cool with it, especially as they Back to the Futured themselves into the earlier movies which was fun (even Dark World).  Of course, not undoing the snap back to its origin - thus saving Stark's daughter - meant that they created a whole heap of heartache and trouble for the snapped and unsnapped alike.

Imagine coming back after 5 years - not having aged a second - and trying to piece your life back together that you didn't know had been gone!  Imagine getting back friends, family, husbands, wives, kids, when you are 5 years older and have moved on to make a new life for yourself without them!  How many of the unsnapped killed themselves in grief and horror at surviving?  How many of the snapped will kill themselves because they cannot deal with where their world is now?  How is Spider-Man: Homecoming going to deal with all this?*

* By the looks of the trailer, not at all, which is the tangled web they weave when first they practice to time travel.

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« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2019, 09:42:08 am »
I was cool with it, especially as they Back to the Futured themselves into the earlier movies which was fun (even Dark World).  Of course, not undoing the snap back to its origin - thus saving Stark's daughter - meant that they created a whole heap of heartache and trouble for the snapped and unsnapped alike.

Imagine coming back after 5 years - not having aged a second - and trying to piece your life back together that you didn't know had been gone!  Imagine getting back friends, family, husbands, wives, kids, when you are 5 years older and have moved on to make a new life for yourself without them!  How many of the unsnapped killed themselves in grief and horror at surviving?  How many of the snapped will kill themselves because they cannot deal with where their world is now?  How is Spider-Man: Homecoming going to deal with all this?*

* By the looks of the trailer, not at all, which is the tangled web they weave when first they practice to time travel.

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« Reply #72 on: May 07, 2019, 09:51:13 am »
Repeat to yourself "it's just a show, I should really just relaaaaaaax!"

You should see my other post this morning...
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« Reply #73 on: May 07, 2019, 10:01:38 am »
I was cool with it, especially as they Back to the Futured themselves into the earlier movies which was fun (even Dark World).  Of course, not undoing the snap back to its origin - thus saving Stark's daughter - meant that they created a whole heap of heartache and trouble for the snapped and unsnapped alike.

Imagine coming back after 5 years - not having aged a second - and trying to piece your life back together that you didn't know had been gone!  Imagine getting back friends, family, husbands, wives, kids, when you are 5 years older and have moved on to make a new life for yourself without them!  How many of the unsnapped killed themselves in grief and horror at surviving?  How many of the snapped will kill themselves because they cannot deal with where their world is now?  How is Spider-Man: Homecoming going to deal with all this?*

* By the looks of the trailer, not at all, which is the tangled web they weave when first they practice to time travel.

Imagine the resource crunch caused by instantly doubling the population after 5 years of adjustment to the lower demand level. Half the oil production, half the electricity production, half the food production. We’re talking mass starvation here.

And what do you do with housing? Sure, there’s a lot of empty houses. But there was probably a lot of post-snap movement from shittier units into nicer, empty housing. So the units immediately available to the unsnapped probably won’t be the ones they lived in, and they’ll be way worse to boot (lower end of the market *plus* five years’ dilapidation). Does title to everything just revert to the previous owners? And goodness, what about snapped renters?!?

Way to go, Avengers. You had limitless power, and you used it in the worst possible way.