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Aches and Pains 2018
« on: February 27, 2018, 10:46:19 am »
Yuli sent back to Houston to get his hand checked out.  Turns out it was worse than originally reported.  Hinch does not know the cause of the injury.
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2018, 10:47:39 am »
Yuli sent back to Houston to get his hand checked out.  Turns out it was worse than originally reported.  Hinch does not know the cause of the injury.

Well, better to have this happen now versus late March.

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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2018, 11:26:36 am »
Thanks, Bench. I miss Nate Colbert.
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2018, 11:36:05 am »
Thanks, Bench. I miss Nate Colbert.

What happened to him? Was he pissed about something?
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2018, 12:43:39 pm »
What happened to him? Was he pissed about something?

my guess is "yes" but I can't imagine why.  I think this board often thanked him for his significant contributions. I hope that he is ok and comes back.

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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2018, 01:13:02 pm »
my guess is "yes" but I can't imagine why.  I think this board often thanked him for his significant contributions. I hope that he is ok and comes back.

If something happened, I missed it. Strange when people leave during a WS championship year. All about them, I guess.
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2018, 05:37:48 pm »
If something happened, I missed it. Strange when people leave during a WS championship year. All about them, I guess.
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2018, 08:05:39 pm »
Member List shows him active 20 minutes ago but nothing posted for 6 months.

Could be burned out.
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2018, 10:20:29 pm »
Could be burned out.

Perhaps, but mostly my own aches and pains.

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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2018, 11:08:59 pm »
Perhaps, but mostly my own aches and pains.

Hope you are well, Nate. Do take care of those aches and pains.
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2018, 04:24:18 am »
Perhaps, but mostly my own aches and pains.

Sorry to hear that. You have been sorely missed. Glad to see you back.
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2018, 05:04:22 am »
Perhaps, but mostly my own aches and pains.

Take care, and hurry back.
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2018, 06:20:24 am »
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2018, 06:34:30 am »
Take care, and hurry back.

+1, Nate. You take care of you. We’ll be here when you are up to returning.
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2018, 07:03:13 am »
+1, Nate. You take care of you. We’ll be here when you are up to returning.

+! Godspeed, Nate.
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2018, 08:36:55 am »
Gurriel to have hand surgery.


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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2018, 08:37:42 am »
Sorry to hear that Nate. Take care.

Anyway, according to McTaggart - "Yuli Gurriel having surgery to remove the hook of hamate bone in his left hand. Timetable unknown."

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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2018, 08:39:16 am »
Drew Silva, NBC Sports - "Hamate bone surgery typically comes with 6-8 weeks of recovery time and can sometimes sap a player's hitting ability for a while after that."

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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2018, 08:47:05 am »
Drew Silva, NBC Sports - "Hamate bone surgery typically comes with 6-8 weeks of recovery time and can sometimes sap a player's hitting ability for a while after that."
Unless Reed steps up and earns the first base job, I’m thinking Marwin gets most of the reps at first.


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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2018, 08:59:40 am »
Unless Reed steps up and earns the first base job, I’m thinking Marwin gets most of the reps at first.


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I think Marwin takes over and White gets the odd start (I'd bet on him over Reed).

With Marwin needed at 1B, Fisher would really have to suck to lose the LF gig. I guess there's some chance this opens the door to signing Carlos Gonzalez, too.

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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2018, 09:00:06 am »
Perhaps, but mostly my own aches and pains.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2018, 09:01:09 am »
I think Marwin takes over and White gets the odd start (I'd bet on him over Reed).

With Marwin needed at 1B, Fisher would really have to suck to lose the LF gig. I guess there's some chance this opens the door to signing Carlos Gonzalez, too.
Opens the door a crack for  JD Davis too.
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2018, 09:08:16 am »
Opens the door a crack for  JD Davis too.
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2018, 09:20:26 am »
Marwin need to stay in the utility role. Too bad Logan Morrison signed last week.

Losing Yuli for two months hurts. I hope they operate today.
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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2018, 09:21:11 am »
I think Marwin takes over and White gets the odd start (I'd bet on him over Reed).

With Marwin needed at 1B, Fisher would really have to suck to lose the LF gig. I guess there's some chance this opens the door to signing Carlos Gonzalez, too.
I was thinking the same thing about Carlos Gonzalez. One thing is for sure, we have options, good ones at that, and those are nice to have.


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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2018, 09:22:53 am »
Marwin need to stay in the utility role. Too bad Logan Moreison signed last week.

Losing Yuli for two months hurts. I hope they operate today.
Surgery's done and went well, says Luhnow. 6 week expected recovery, so Yuli probably misses the first ~2 weeks of the season.

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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2018, 09:27:41 am »
Opens the door a crack for  JD Davis too.
I agree whole heartedly. I think it was Jim that has been saying all winter that he would like to see Davis get more regular at bats. Well, if he continues to hit like he has the first few games of spring he’s getting the spot.


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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2018, 09:35:27 am »
I agree whole heartedly. I think it was Jim that has been saying all winter that he would like to see Davis get more regular at bats. Well, if he continues to hit like he has the first few games of spring he’s getting the spot.


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That was HH, and I did not disagree. I want to see Reed realize his potential, but he is running out of time.
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2018, 09:46:16 am »
I was thinking the same thing about Carlos Gonzalez. One thing is for sure, we have options, good ones at that, and those are nice to have.


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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2018, 09:55:55 am »
Surgery's done and went well, says Luhnow. 6 week expected recovery, so Yuli probably misses the first ~2 weeks of the season.

I'm trying to remember who else had the hamate bone removed. Seems like an Astro player back in the day.

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Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2018, 10:01:35 am »
I am too lazy to look this up so if there is a doctor in the house please answer this question. What causes this type of injury? Is this just like a growth that just now started to bother him or was this the result of something Yuli did to cause the injury?


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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2018, 10:07:51 am »
Nate, hope at is well, or will be soon.

It seems like a lot of players have this type of injury.  That slugger/strikeout guy that made AA we had years back (obviously forgot his name) had it, IIRC.  I assume the injury is more probable to befall people who swing bats or disrespect Japanese hurlers, but I obviously don't know.

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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2018, 10:14:53 am »
Nate, hope at is well, or will be soon.

It seems like a lot of players have this type of injury.  That slugger/strikeout guy that made AA we had years back (obviously forgot his name) had it, IIRC.  I assume the injury is more probable to befall people who swing bats or disrespect Japanese hurlers, but I obviously don't know.

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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2018, 10:39:27 am »
This brings up an interesting question.  Can the Astros rationalize that "Yuli was going to miss the first week, anyway", or will MLB attempt to make sure he misses five games after he's cleared to play?
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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2018, 10:47:37 am »
This brings up an interesting question.  Can the Astros rationalize that "Yuli was going to miss the first week, anyway", or will MLB attempt to make sure he misses five games after he's cleared to play?
I am 99.9% sure he’s got to miss the first five games he can physically play.


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Here's a HOT TAKEFACT: The bat knob on conventional baseball bats is the root cause of every broken hamate injury and thrown bat in the game of baseball. It’s a design flaw that threatens players and fans alike.
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Re: Aches and Pains 2018
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2018, 11:15:01 am »
Small sample size, but Davis has been tearing it up so far this spring.  He's played a tiny bit in the OF in Corpus, so he could be part of a Marwin/Fisher platoon to cover LF and 1B.
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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2018, 11:40:18 am »
Why can't they just put him on the DL after the five games are over? 
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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2018, 11:45:09 am »
Why can't they just put him on the DL after the five games are over?

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« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2018, 07:06:18 am »
That was HH, and I did not disagree. I want to see Reed realize his potential, but he is running out of time.

I think Davis can hit at this level, and can handle 1B with no problems.  He's the guy that's gonna step up and surprise people, IMO.  I am not optimistic about Reed.  But I sure wish he'd prove me wrong.
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« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2018, 07:18:12 pm »
Dishonest. He must serve the suspension when he is able to play.

So if he is on DL but not yet suspended,  will be be able to participate in opening day festivities?

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« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2018, 12:37:37 pm »
Dishonest. He must serve the suspension when he is able to play.

Ok, but teams abuse the DL all of the time.   
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« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2018, 01:07:58 pm »
Ok, but teams abuse the DL all of the time.   

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« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2018, 03:35:04 pm »
McCann back, Federiowicz DFA'd.
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« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2018, 03:37:31 pm »
In rival news, Ohtani has an elbow ouchie and will be on the DL for quite some time.
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« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2018, 03:42:23 pm »
In rival news, Ohtani has an elbow ouchie and will be on the DL for quite some time.

So no more breathless updates from MLB every time he hits a foul ball?
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« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2018, 04:00:07 pm »
So no more breathless updates from MLB every time he hits a foul ball?

You'll have to settle for updates when he scratches himself now.

Hopefully not to serious.  Pretty cool story.

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« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2018, 04:39:57 pm »
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« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2018, 05:09:55 pm »
McCann back, Federiowicz DFA'd.
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« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2018, 05:53:16 pm »
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« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2018, 10:34:58 am »
Per Mark Berman, Joe Smith is headed to the DL with “elbow discomfort.”


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« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2018, 10:37:11 am »
Per Mark Berman, Joe Smith is headed to the DL with “elbow discomfort.”


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« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2018, 02:55:27 pm »
Guduan has been recalled to take his place.

Hoyt must really be struggling.


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« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2018, 06:03:29 pm »
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« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2018, 08:22:55 pm »
In this case, I think the key factor in the decision is that Guduan throws with his left arm.
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« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2018, 10:04:52 pm »
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« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2018, 08:43:56 am »
Per the radio this morning, Ohtani needs TJ surgery.

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« Reply #59 on: June 11, 2018, 08:52:30 am »
Ugh.  One of those odd things you have to balance with a two-way star.  In other words, if they didn't throw him, they'd still have his bat.

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« Reply #60 on: June 11, 2018, 09:28:26 am »
his post was in error.

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« Reply #61 on: June 11, 2018, 09:44:24 am »
this is why I never considered the Angels to be a threat to win the division. Not specifically Ohtani, but I expected their pitching staff to break down over the season. Because they always do.
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« Reply #62 on: June 11, 2018, 09:49:52 am »
Sad to hear the Ohtani news.  Rival team or not, I was interestedin seeing how it played out over the course of a season.

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« Reply #63 on: June 11, 2018, 10:06:31 am »
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« Reply #64 on: June 11, 2018, 10:06:58 am »
Having never had elbow troubles before, I wonder how feasible it would be to just have him DH for the rest of the season.

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« Reply #65 on: June 11, 2018, 12:39:04 pm »
Sad to hear about Ohtani, but when was the last big money Japanese pitcher that didn't need arm surgery soon after coming to MLB?
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« Reply #66 on: June 11, 2018, 01:36:00 pm »
Per the radio this morning, Ohtani needs TJ surgery.

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« Reply #67 on: June 11, 2018, 04:18:29 pm »
Sad to hear about Ohtani, but when was the last big money Japanese pitcher that didn't need arm surgery soon after coming to MLB?
There are only 5 pitchers from Japan currently on MLB rosters. Darvish, Tanaka, Maeda, Ohtani, and Hirano. All but Hirano are also serving time on the DL at the moment.
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« Reply #68 on: June 11, 2018, 04:35:03 pm »
There are only 5 pitchers from Japan currently on MLB rosters. Darvish, Tanaka, Maeda, Ohtani, and Hirano. All but Hirano are also serving time on the DL at the moment.

I inadvertently left Iwakuma off the list but he is out too.
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« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2018, 10:21:18 am »
Not an ache or a pain for him, but Yuli goes on 3 day paternity leave, Reed called up.
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« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2018, 10:47:30 am »
Not an ache or a pain for him, but Yuli goes on 3 day paternity leave, Reed called up.

Yuli's wife may have had some pain.

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« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2018, 11:36:56 am »
Yuli's wife may have had some pain.
Right, hence the "for him".
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« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2018, 01:46:31 pm »
Right, hence the "for him".

He could have pain transference.

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« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2018, 04:09:54 pm »
Correa to the DL.
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« Reply #75 on: June 28, 2018, 04:17:19 pm »
Correa to the DL.

How many games before the ASB?
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« Reply #76 on: June 28, 2018, 04:18:49 pm »
Correa to the DL.
I wonder if we call someone up or try to make it 3 days until Yuli returns? I would guess you call someone up but who????


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I wonder if we call someone up or try to make it 3 days until Yuli returns? I would guess you call someone up but who????


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How many games before the ASB?

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I wonder if we call someone up or try to make it 3 days until Yuli returns? I would guess you call someone up but who????


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« Reply #80 on: June 28, 2018, 04:47:49 pm »
Smith is coming back soon.  They just brought Reed up, and they have White.  Maybe an OFer?

Makes sense.  Marwin plays short and Tucker plays left.  So, of course, they're going to call up Fisher.
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« Reply #82 on: June 28, 2018, 09:58:42 pm »
Cuban lefty Cionel Perez gets the call from CC.

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« Reply #83 on: June 29, 2018, 06:05:24 am »
Cuban lefty Cionel Perez gets the call from CC.
Perez was only on the 40-man because the Astros voided his original contract due to a medical issue, correct?

I doubt many people thought he would get the call this year. So his MLB career starting much earlier than expected is directly attributable to failing his physical (and also kicking ass at Corpus). 

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Perez was only on the 40-man because the Astros voided his original contract due to a medical issue, correct?

I doubt many people thought he would get the call this year. So his MLB career starting much earlier than expected is directly attributable to failing his physical (and also kicking ass at Corpus).

I like this a lot! He has been very good this year, and he held his own in ST. I read quotes from Luhnow a week or so ago the Brain Trust was still debating whether to consider him an option for the pen or to let him keep developing as a starter.
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Cuban lefty Cionel Perez gets the call from CC.

And back down to CC without getting in a game.

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I like this a lot! He has been very good this year, and he held his own in ST. I read quotes from Luhnow a week or so ago the Brain Trust was still debating whether to consider him an option for the pen or to let him keep developing as a starter.
Really disappointing that he didn’t get to pitch in a game. I could understand if you didn’t want to put him in a really high leverage situation, but they could have squeezed him in somewhere last night.


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« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2018, 10:37:07 am »
McCann to the DL, Federowicz up; also Joe Smith will be activated, all according to Chandler Rome on twitter. No word on who makes room for Smith - I assume Reed or White.
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McCann to the DL, Federowicz up; also Joe Smith will be activated, all according to Chandler Rome on twitter. No word on who makes room for Smith - I assume Reed or White.

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McCann to the DL, Federowicz up; also Joe Smith will be activated, all according to Chandler Rome on twitter. No word on who makes room for Smith - I assume Reed or White.

McCann’s knee again?
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hope these are two isolated incidents and not a precursor of what is to come.  he is such a important part of this team
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McCann’s knee again?
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What’s wrong with Federowicz as a backup? Has he looked like a butcher back there or something?
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What’s wrong with Federowicz as a backup? Has he looked like a butcher back there or something?
Personally, I wasn’t impressed, but I’m not a talent evaluator either. The brass must not be too worried or he wouldn’t get the call.


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Personally, I wasn’t impressed, but I’m not a talent evaluator either. The brass must not be too worried or he wouldn’t get the call.


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What’s wrong with Federowicz as a backup? Has he looked like a butcher back there or something?
Pretty sure I remember him catching McCullers and having a very bad first few innings behind the plate.
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« Reply #98 on: July 03, 2018, 02:15:23 pm »
Per Rosenthal tweet:  McCann to have surgery, out 4-6 weeks.  Stassi the regular catcher.
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« Reply #99 on: July 03, 2018, 02:34:46 pm »
Per Rosenthal tweet:  McCann to have surgery, out 4-6 weeks.  Stassi the regular catcher.
Bummer. That’s a pretty good while to be without him. I am totally fine with Stassi behind the plate. I like giving the young guys a chance though and would like to have seen Stubbs versus Federowicz. Garret is hitting over .300 and has an OPS over .850. The book on him is that he is probably too small to be an everyday catcher right now and needs to bulk up. What I read specifically said he would be great in a backup role. Would like to have seen that but I guess the brass would rather have him down there getting regular AB’s.

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Per Rosenthal tweet:  McCann to have surgery, out 4-6 weeks.  Stassi the regular catcher.

If this is the beginning of the end for McCann, I salute him. He and Beltrán were the glue that held the team together when all seemed lost in Yankee Stadium.
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If this is the beginning of the end for McCann, I salute him. He and Beltrán were the glue that held the team together when all seemed lost in Yankee Stadium.

Amen. When he arrived, I was prepared to hate him. When he departs, I will surely miss him.


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If this is the beginning of the end for McCann, I salute him. He and Beltrán were the glue that held the team together when all seemed lost in Yankee Stadium.
He's obviously a tough SOB to have been catching regularly with a bum knee.  I've never heard any teammate say a bad thing about him.  Barring a rehab setback I'll keep expecting him back for the postseason.
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« Reply #105 on: July 03, 2018, 03:32:22 pm »
He's obviously a tough SOB to have been catching regularly with a bum knee.  I've never heard any teammate say a bad thing about him.  Barring a rehab setback I'll keep expecting him back for the postseason.

Many of them waxed eloquent about how much he meant to the team. McCullers called him the team’s MVP. For his part, McCann said accepting the trade was the best decision of his life.

Funny how firmly held perceptions can be so wrong.
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If this is the beginning of the end for McCann, I salute him. He and Beltrán were the glue that held the team together when all seemed lost in Yankee Stadium.
Truer words could not be said. McCann and Beltran represent the type of baseball player I hope my son grows up to be. They show tremendous respect for the game and how it is played and they don’t cheat it for one second.


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McCann was their Jake Taylor exactly when they needed it. May he make it back for one last ride, at least.
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« Reply #108 on: July 03, 2018, 03:53:48 pm »
he seems to be extremely well thought of  by even non astros.   hoping he gets well and is able to call again
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Truer words could not be said. McCann and Beltran represent the type of baseball player I hope my son grows up to be. They show tremendous respect for the game and how it is played and they don’t cheat it for one second.


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I’m reminded of the line from the movie Miracle:

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Funny how firmly held perceptions can be so wrong.
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What are the "firmly held perceptions"?

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X-rays negative--Stassi day to day.
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X-rays negative--Stassi day to day.
Stubbs hasn’t even been removed from Fresno’s lineup as a precaution.
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« Reply #116 on: July 03, 2018, 09:14:10 pm »
Am I right that if Gattis is DHing that he can't replace Federowicz if he gets injured.  If that is the case, can the Astros go with having Stassi "day to day" or do they need to 10-day DL him and bring up Stubbs?  Because I don't think the Astros want to start Gattis at catcher, but they can't DH him if he is the backup catcher.

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What are the "firmly held perceptions"?

about McCann before he got to Houston
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Am I right that if Gattis is DHing that he can't replace Federowicz if he gets injured.  If that is the case, can the Astros go with having Stassi "day to day" or do they need to 10-day DL him and bring up Stubbs?  Because I don't think the Astros want to start Gattis at catcher, but they can't DH him if he is the backup catcher.

Is there anyone else on the active roster right now who can catch?
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« Reply #119 on: July 03, 2018, 09:22:02 pm »
about McCann before he got to Houston
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Okay then.
There was a perception that McCann was an uptight, self-righteous prick who flew off the handle at a number of opposing players for showing up his pitcher or whatever. There were a couple notable incidents with then-Brewer Carlos Gomez, and maybe one with Jose Fernandez? Plus he was a Brave and then a Yankee, so totally normal to assume he’s a dickhead.

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« Reply #123 on: July 03, 2018, 11:23:04 pm »
Dude makes me nervous.

I’m fine with him. He is a veteran big leaguer.
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There was a perception that McCann was an uptight, self-righteous prick who flew off the handle at a number of opposing players for showing up his pitcher or whatever. There were a couple notable incidents with then-Brewer Carlos Gomez, and maybe one with Jose Fernandez? Plus he was a Brave and then a Yankee, so totally normal to assume he’s a dickhead.

Anyway, either the perception was wrong, or he mellowed.
I just remember the one(s) with Gomez, and I'd just about never begrudge someone for getting in that guy's face.
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I just remember the one(s) with Gomez, and I'd just about never begrudge someone for getting in that guy's face.
I actually still don’t have a real problem with Gomez’ antics and attitude. I think he loves playing baseball and likes to have fun doing it. But I do think he’s an idiot in terms of baseball IQ and approach.
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« Reply #126 on: July 04, 2018, 10:40:19 am »
I actually still don’t have a real problem with Gomez’ antics and attitude. I think he loves playing baseball and likes to have fun doing it. But I do think he’s an idiot in terms of baseball IQ and approach.

I have a major problem with showboating. I rooted for him to STFU and play well when he was an Astro, but I am glad he is gone.
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« Reply #127 on: July 04, 2018, 10:50:45 am »
I have a major problem with showboating. I rooted for him to STFU and play well when he was an Astro, but I am glad he is gone.
I never liked Gomez before he became an Astro and I liked McCann since that time he got in Gomez's face for dicking it around the bases that one time. I don't like showboating either. However still, when Gomez was an Astro, I guess I got to know him a little better due to the increased exposure and better understood, at least, his perspective on the behavior, Of course I rooted for him to do well while he was here.
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« Reply #128 on: July 04, 2018, 11:43:50 am »
I will never forget McHugh's "WTF" reaction on that fly ball to CF that Gomez misread by 30 yards or lost in the light or whatever. 

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I will never forget McHugh's "WTF" reaction on that fly ball to CF that Gomez misread by 30 yards or lost in the light or whatever.
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« Reply #131 on: July 05, 2018, 10:43:54 am »
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That gif is basically Gomez's personal HOF plaque, which would also be equipped with a helmet that falls off whenever anyone tries to read it.
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« Reply #132 on: July 05, 2018, 11:44:06 am »
That gif is basically Gomez's personal HOF plaque, which would also be equipped with a helmet that falls off whenever anyone tries to read it.

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« Reply #133 on: July 05, 2018, 01:14:25 pm »
...and this video on a loop.

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« Reply #134 on: July 05, 2018, 03:01:48 pm »
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« Reply #135 on: July 05, 2018, 07:24:42 pm »
...and this video on a loop.

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"Can't believe he made contact that many times in a row."

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« Reply #138 on: July 09, 2018, 07:38:15 pm »
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« Reply #139 on: July 09, 2018, 07:48:07 pm »
This is beginning to sound serious.

He took some simple grounders during pre-game today.
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« Reply #140 on: July 09, 2018, 11:44:26 pm »
I believe their perfect plan is rehab assignment over the ASB and his being back afterwards.
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I believe their perfect plan is rehab assignment over the ASB and his being back afterwards.

He’ll swing a bat today and then a rehab assignment soon if all goes well.
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« Reply #142 on: July 19, 2018, 09:34:38 am »
So, any news on Correa?  I was anticipating a rehab assignment that would have him ready for tomorrow's game.  Hasn't happened, as far as I know. 

Is this something to worry about?

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He’ll swing a bat today and then a rehab assignment soon if all goes well.

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« Reply #144 on: July 20, 2018, 07:53:05 pm »
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« Reply #145 on: July 20, 2018, 08:10:57 pm »
McTaggart tweet:  So, Hinch said Carlos Correa is working out back in Houston and isn't doing any baseball drills. He won't return any time soon it appears. More to come.

I keep telling myself that if they were really concerned about Correa, they might have gone hard for the Manny Machado rental sweepstakes. Regardless of cost or dealing with O’s. 

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« Reply #146 on: July 20, 2018, 08:42:29 pm »
I keep telling myself that if they were really concerned about Correa, they might have gone hard for the Manny Machado rental sweepstakes. Regardless of cost or dealing with O’s.
I don’t think we would have ever given up something similar to what the Dodgers gave up for a rental,  even if that rental was Machado.

Now, if Correa’s injury will be a nagging one it could push the bullpen issue to second on the list. Getting a bat could become top priority. Abreu at first base with Gurriel moving to third and Bregman to short could be a possibility. Or an outfield bat in left if Tucker can produce pop over the next week could be a possibility. Adam Jones or Starling Marte could be targets with Gonzalez then taking most of the load at short while Yuli and Bregman stay put.

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« Reply #147 on: July 20, 2018, 08:45:46 pm »
I don’t think we would have ever given up something similar to what the Dodgers gave up for a rental,  even if that rental was Machado.

Now, if Correa’s injury will be a nagging one it could push the bullpen issue to second on the list. Getting a bat could become top priority. Abreu at first base with Gurriel moving to third and Bregman to short could be a possibility. Or an outfield bat in left if Tucker can produce pop over the next week could be a possibility. Adam Jones or Starling Marte could be targets with Gonzalez then taking most of the load at short while Yuli and Bregman stay put.

I think Adam Jones's best days are far behind him, and I would be disappointed if the Astros gave up anybody of consequence to acquire him. I suppose there's a chance that he would be rejuvenated by going to a contending team, but that seems like a risky bet.
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I think Adam Jones's best days are far behind him, and I would be disappointed if the Astros gave up anybody of consequence to acquire him. I suppose there's a chance that he would be rejuvenated by going to a contending team, but that seems like a risky bet.
I tend to agree. I fine with Kemp out there but if they want more power from that position they will have to look somewhere. I too believe Jones best days are behind him but you may could get him for very little especially if you are willing to pay the rest of his salary for the season which would be significant. He could come in a package deal with Britton????? The plus with Jones is not only his power potential but they say he is great in the locker room. Not that we are lacking there but still, more veteran leadership can only be a plus.


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« Reply #149 on: July 21, 2018, 08:38:05 am »
I tend to agree. I fine with Kemp out there but if they want more power from that position they will have to look somewhere. I too believe Jones best days are behind him but you may could get him for very little especially if you are willing to pay the rest of his salary for the season which would be significant. He could come in a package deal with Britton????? The plus with Jones is not only his power potential but they say he is great in the locker room. Not that we are lacking there but still, more veteran leadership can only be a plus.


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« Reply #150 on: July 21, 2018, 10:36:26 am »
You are obsessed with Adam Jones.
Nah, not really. Like I said, I think his best days are probably behind him. I just mention him because he’s probably available. If we were to grab an outfielder I’d rather have Marte or Rosario. Not sure either are available though and I’m not sure we need a bat anyway.....unless Correa’s problems look like they will linger.


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« Reply #151 on: July 21, 2018, 10:37:24 am »
Has anyone heard an update/prognosis on McCann in the last couple of days?


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« Reply #152 on: July 21, 2018, 11:11:18 am »
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« Reply #153 on: July 21, 2018, 11:13:35 am »
We need a bat.

We seem to be getting Springer back. That should help a bit.
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« Reply #154 on: July 21, 2018, 11:22:32 am »
We need a bat.
Just curious because I value your opinion. Do you see a bat as a bigger need now than a backend bullpen arm???


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« Reply #155 on: July 21, 2018, 11:32:50 am »
Nah, not really. Like I said, I think his best days are probably behind him. I just mention him because he’s probably available. If we were to grab an outfielder I’d rather have Marte or Rosario. Not sure either are available though and I’m not sure we need a bat anyway.....unless Correa’s problems look like they will linger.


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« Reply #156 on: July 21, 2018, 11:34:29 am »
I hate to tell you this, but his issue has already lingered. I had two disc surgeries and am afraid he is headed in that direction.

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« Reply #157 on: July 21, 2018, 11:48:42 am »
To quote the great Bill James, "Back injuries are inherently serious."

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« Reply #158 on: July 21, 2018, 11:56:09 am »
I hate to tell you this, but his issue has already lingered. I had two disc surgeries and am afraid he is headed in that direction.
Me too. L4 and L5 for me, but only 1 surgery so far.

Not that we are at that point yet but if his back is as bad as mine,  shortstop won’t be in his long term future.

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« Reply #159 on: July 21, 2018, 11:58:43 am »
Me too. L4 and L5 for me, but only 1 surgery so far.


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« Reply #160 on: July 21, 2018, 02:39:08 pm »
I hate to tell you this, but his issue has already lingered. I had two disc surgeries and am afraid he is headed in that direction.
Not that it's any of my business, but what age were you?  Mine was at 32, and I was 100% over it 4 years later, and no problems since.  I am of course not Carlos Correa.
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Not that it's any of my business, but what age were you?  Mine was at 32, and I was 100% over it 4 years later, and no problems since.  I am of course not Carlos Correa.

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« Reply #163 on: July 21, 2018, 06:25:29 pm »
Yes, but didn't they use to call you "Righty"?

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« Reply #164 on: July 22, 2018, 05:08:14 pm »
Not that it's any of my business, but what age were you?  Mine was at 32, and I was 100% over it 4 years later, and no problems since.  I am of course not Carlos Correa.

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« Reply #165 on: July 26, 2018, 11:12:13 pm »
Judge out 3 weeks with broken wrist after hbp.  Checked swing, opened up,  ball came in on his right wrist.

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« Reply #166 on: July 27, 2018, 12:52:00 am »
Judge out 3 weeks with broken wrist after hbp.  Checked swing, opened up,  ball came in on his right wrist.
Only 3 weeks? That seems pretty optimistic

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Only 3 weeks? That seems pretty optimistic

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Only 3 weeks? That seems pretty optimistic

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The announced time frame is 3 weeks before game-situation bat swinging. I think that makes it "at least 3 weeks."
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« Reply #171 on: July 28, 2018, 05:28:39 pm »
AJ pleased by Correa's showing today.   Said do it again tmw,  then establish a timeline.

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« Reply #172 on: July 28, 2018, 09:14:58 pm »
Altuve DL'd. Looks like Tyler White being recalled.

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« Reply #176 on: July 28, 2018, 09:23:50 pm »
Altuve DL'd. Looks like Tyler White being recalled.

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« Reply #177 on: July 28, 2018, 09:29:11 pm »
This is not a solution. Will Luhnow find a bat?

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« Reply #178 on: August 01, 2018, 08:10:10 am »
Per Julia:

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« Reply #179 on: August 01, 2018, 08:48:02 am »
Per Julia:

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« Reply #180 on: August 01, 2018, 08:58:27 am »
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« Reply #182 on: August 01, 2018, 10:11:35 am »
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« Reply #183 on: August 01, 2018, 10:21:34 am »
This presumably means Springer to DL?  So, it's not just a day to day thing?

Anyway, I'm glad we can call up Jake.  His defense will help and who the fuck knows, he might get a timely hit here or there.

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« Reply #184 on: August 01, 2018, 10:28:33 am »
This presumably means Springer to DL?  So, it's not just a day to day thing?

Anyway, I'm glad we can call up Jake.  His defense will help and who the fuck knows, he might get a timely hit here or there.

Watching the video it looked like he jammed his shoulder pretty badly.  I hope he didn't tear anything in there.
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« Reply #185 on: August 01, 2018, 10:37:20 am »
Well, in his interview last night, there was some hope that it was a day to day thing.  I guess not.  Must of not been promising when he woke up.

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« Reply #186 on: August 01, 2018, 10:43:08 am »
Watching the video it looked like he jammed his shoulder pretty badly.  I hope he didn't tear anything in there.

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« Reply #187 on: August 01, 2018, 10:49:27 am »
I’d worry about the collar bone.

I’m hopeful that they presumption that they could “treat it” during the game yesterday indicates that it’s not a collar bone fracture, but I’ll continue to prepare for the worst during these injury-plagued times.


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« Reply #188 on: August 01, 2018, 10:52:29 am »
I’m hopeful that they presumption that they could “treat it” during the game yesterday indicates that it’s not a collar bone fracture, but I’ll continue to prepare for the worst during these injury-plagued times.


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« Reply #189 on: August 01, 2018, 11:10:52 am »
The lineup could construction will be interesting today, especially facing a lefty. I would have expected Kemp-Reddick-Bregman against a righty. Jake will likely get a start if travel allows.


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« Reply #190 on: August 01, 2018, 11:20:09 am »
AJ Hinch on MLB Sirius Radio Channel saying that when he got back to his office last night, Springer was there, shirtless, doing jumping jacks showing him that he had total range of motion.  Springer wants to play today but Hinch giving him the day off.  It sounded like he isn't going on the DL. 
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« Reply #191 on: August 01, 2018, 11:23:05 am »
AJ Hinch on MLB Sirius Radio Channel saying that when he got back to his office last night, Springer was there, shirtless, doing jumping jacks showing him that he had total range of motion.  Springer wants to play today but Hinch giving him the day off.  It sounded like he isn't going on the DL.

Ha. Love the jumping jacks story.

Maybe he'll be available to pinch hit.

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« Reply #192 on: August 01, 2018, 11:23:10 am »
AJ Hinch on MLB Sirius Radio Channel saying that when he got back to his office last night, Springer was there, shirtless, doing jumping jacks

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« Reply #193 on: August 01, 2018, 11:26:50 am »
AJ Hinch on MLB Sirius Radio Channel saying that when he got back to his office last night, Springer was there, shirtless, doing jumping jacks showing him that he had total range of motion.  Springer wants to play today but Hinch giving him the day off.  It sounded like he isn't going on the DL.
I was listening too when AJ said that. He certainly made it seem like it wasn’t serious and that this is probably just a single day off for George so the Marisnick call up is puzzling. AJ is usually pretty forthcoming on his weekly radio spot. If George was going on the DL for a 10 day respite, I think he probably would have said so, though he certainly doesn’t have too. Reckon someone is being sent down??


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« Reply #194 on: August 01, 2018, 11:30:58 am »
I was listening too when AJ said that. He certainly made it seem like it wasn’t serious and that this is probably just a single day off for George so the Marisnick call up is puzzling. AJ is usually pretty forthcoming on his weekly radio spot. If George was going on the DL for a 10 day respite, I think he probably would have said so. Reckon someone is being sent down??

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« Reply #195 on: August 01, 2018, 11:35:59 am »
I was listening too when AJ said that. He certainly made it seem like it wasn’t serious and that this is probably just a single day off for George so the Marisnick call up is puzzling. AJ is usually pretty forthcoming on his weekly radio spot. If George was going on the DL for a 10 day respite, I think he probably would have said so, though he certainly doesn’t have too. Reckon someone is being sent down??


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On his Sunday pre-game radio interview Luhnow mentioned Marisnick may be back soon as the upcoming road trip takes them to Dodger Stadium and S.F., fields with big CFs to cover.

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« Reply #196 on: August 01, 2018, 11:36:39 am »
Tucker?
I guess anything is possible including George going on the DL. That just isn’t the impression AJ gave when they specifically asked how Springer was doing. I would not send Tucker down but that’s just me. With all of these injuries I’d let the kid play. There is still plenty of time in August to make a waiver trade or call Jake up if Tucker clearly can’t handle it over the next 2-3 weeks.


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« Reply #197 on: August 01, 2018, 11:37:52 am »
On his Sunday pre-game radio interview Luhnow mentioned Marisnick may be back soon as the upcoming road trip takes them to Dodger Stadium and S.F., fields with big CFs to cover.
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« Reply #199 on: August 01, 2018, 11:46:38 am »
Tucker?

How about Davis?  I hope so at least

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« Reply #200 on: August 01, 2018, 11:57:17 am »
Ha. Love the jumping jacks story.

It's an awesome story.  And all over America, women could be heard saying "I'll be in my bunk".
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« Reply #201 on: August 01, 2018, 12:17:03 pm »
Tucker officially sent back to AAA, Marisnick up:
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Tucker officially sent back to AAA, Marisnick up:
https://twitter.com/astros/status/1024703355661283329
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« Reply #203 on: August 01, 2018, 12:51:31 pm »
Correa says he'll begin his rehab stint with Corpus tomorrow and should be there about a week. Will play 7 innings in game vs Frisco (in Frisco) tomorrow.

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« Reply #204 on: August 01, 2018, 12:53:18 pm »
How was Marisnick doing at the plate in Fresno??

For the season (across a couple of stints at AAA), he's hit .323/.384/.615 -- 65 AB, 6 2B, 2 3B, 3 HR.
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« Reply #205 on: August 01, 2018, 01:26:29 pm »
Ok, Tucker got his feet wet. I’m sure we will probably see him back in September. How was Marisnick doing at the plate in Fresno??
This tells me that Springer won't go on the DL. If Springer were going on the DL, why send Tucker down?
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« Reply #206 on: August 01, 2018, 01:36:30 pm »
This tells me that Springer won't go on the DL. If Springer were going on the DL, why send Tucker down?
Agree. That makes sense. Springer probably plays Friday. That gives him 2 days to get over any soreness.


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« Reply #207 on: August 01, 2018, 01:37:10 pm »
For the season (across a couple of stints at AAA), he's hit .323/.384/.615 -- 65 AB, 6 2B, 2 3B, 3 HR.
Thanks! Looks like he was doing well down there. Hopefully he worked some things out.


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« Reply #208 on: August 01, 2018, 01:40:39 pm »
Astros beat reporters (Kaplan, McTaggart, Rome) now reporting the jumping jacks story on Twitter (hours after I first reported it) and saying that Springer is probably available off the bench today to pinch hit. 
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« Reply #209 on: August 01, 2018, 01:46:40 pm »
All of the injuries have really shaken up the batting order for today. Kemp leading off and Gattis in the 3 hole.


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All of the injuries have really shaken up the batting order for today. Kemp leading off and Gattis in the 3 hole.

It's felt like a spring training lineup recently.
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It's felt like a spring training lineup recently.

Saw this on twitter last night - thought it was very accurate:  split squad lookin ass lineup
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Saw this on twitter last night - thought it was very accurate:  split squad lookin ass lineup

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« Reply #214 on: August 02, 2018, 10:53:20 am »
Ok, Tucker got his feet wet. I’m sure we will probably see him back in September. How was Marisnick doing at the plate in Fresno??


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I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Tucker on August 30.

Maybe but Fresno is in a strong position to make the post season.  They may keep him there through that.
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For the season (across a couple of stints at AAA), he's hit .323/.384/.615 -- 65 AB, 6 2B, 2 3B, 3 HR.
He [Marisnick] had 50 PA's in his recent July stint and slashed .341/.400/.591 with 1 HR, 4 RBI and 3/4 SB.  He also had 2 HBP , 12 Ks and 11 error-free OF games (5 CF, 6 RF).
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« Reply #217 on: August 02, 2018, 11:12:16 am »
This tells me that Springer won't go on the DL. If Springer were going on the DL, why send Tucker down?
Because Marisnick can play CF better?  Plus, they can bring him right back (even without an airplane ticket) if they do put George on the shelf.
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« Reply #218 on: August 02, 2018, 11:58:21 am »
This tells me that Springer won't go on the DL. If Springer were going on the DL, why send Tucker down?

Tucker needs to play every day. He is not ready yet.
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« Reply #219 on: August 03, 2018, 02:56:15 pm »
Devo to the DL "left hamstring tightness" guess that answers the question of how osuna gets on the roster. Even though this is a couple days early

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« Reply #220 on: August 03, 2018, 03:00:59 pm »
Devo to the DL "left hamstring tightness" guess that answers the question of how osuna gets on the roster. Even though this is a couple days early

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« Reply #221 on: August 03, 2018, 03:02:13 pm »
Cionel Perez up in the interim.
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« Reply #222 on: August 03, 2018, 03:05:18 pm »
quesion answered yes, but hope it gets devo back on track
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Devo to the DL "left hamstring tightness" guess that answers the question of how osuna gets on the roster. Even though this is a couple days early

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Harris gets a reprieve?
Apparently so. He would have been my choice but it's not my decision. Maybe in a couple weeks when devo is "ready" Harris will have a mysterious "injury" and they will swap until September when they can both be on the roster

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Apparently so. He would have been my choice but it's not my decision. Maybe in a couple weeks when devo is "ready" Harris will have a mysterious "injury" and they will swap until September when they can both be on the roster

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« Reply #226 on: August 03, 2018, 07:15:50 pm »
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Jose Altuve won’t be activated from the disabled list Sunday, the first day he’s eligible. He has yet to resume baseball activities.

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Jake Kaplan  @jakemkaplan 16s
Jose Altuve won’t be activated from the disabled list Sunday, the first day he’s eligible. He has yet to resume baseball activities.
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« Reply #228 on: August 03, 2018, 07:37:28 pm »
Are there any reports on Correa's outing last night? Or is that *next* Thursday?
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« Reply #229 on: August 03, 2018, 07:38:40 pm »
Are there any reports on Correa's outing last night? Or is that *next* Thursday?
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« Reply #230 on: August 03, 2018, 07:42:36 pm »
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« Reply #231 on: August 03, 2018, 08:32:22 pm »
Devo to the DL "left hamstring tightness" guess that answers the question of how osuna gets on the roster. Even though this is a couple days early

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« Reply #232 on: August 05, 2018, 12:22:28 pm »
McCullers to the DL, Osuna activated.
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With so many off days coming up, Hinch said the Astros can go with a four-man rotation for at least a couple of weeks. They won't need a fifth starter until the 20th or 21st, he said.

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« Reply #235 on: August 05, 2018, 07:42:19 pm »
This “discomfort” thing has become a serious injury.
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« Reply #236 on: August 05, 2018, 07:47:35 pm »
This “discomfort” thing has become a serious injury.

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« Reply #237 on: August 05, 2018, 07:48:20 pm »
This “discomfort” thing has become a serious injury.

No kidding.  There could be a bone protruding from a guy's thigh, and we'd hear "he's day to day with leg discomfort".
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« Reply #238 on: August 06, 2018, 08:37:17 am »
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« Reply #240 on: August 06, 2018, 09:20:35 am »
No kidding.  There could be a bone protruding from a guy's thigh, and we'd hear "he's day to day with leg discomfort".

Correa lower back discomfort
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« Reply #241 on: August 06, 2018, 10:16:54 am »
The Athletic reports that Derek Fisher is being called up following Springer's thumb injury:
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The Athletic reports that Derek Fisher is being called up following Springer's thumb injury:
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That’s Springer to the DL then, right?  Hadn’t seen that confirmed.
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« Reply #243 on: August 06, 2018, 10:23:11 am »
ETA: Fisher is hitting .259/.384/.477 in about 200 AB at AAA, with 10 doubles, 10 home runs, and 11 steals in 12 tries.

I’m more concerned about his hitting .176/.222/.419 with 2 doubles and 2 steals in the American League.
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« Reply #244 on: August 06, 2018, 10:51:11 am »
Kemp to the leadoff spot/Fisher to 8 (9 in AL parks)?

Bregman could leadoff but he's currently needed in the rbi spot.  Maybe if Correa gets back.

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« Reply #245 on: August 06, 2018, 10:56:01 am »
Is Springer with the team or did he go back to Houston?

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« Reply #246 on: August 06, 2018, 10:59:55 am »
Correa lower back discomfort
Altuve knee discomfort
McCullers elbow discomfort
Springer (whose thumb was barely attached) thumb discomfort

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« Reply #247 on: August 06, 2018, 11:03:54 am »
Is Springer with the team or did he go back to Houston?

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Carlos Correa, George Springer, Jose Altuve, Lance McCullers Jr. and Chris Devenski are in Texas.
 
The Astros are in San Francisco. That's not ideal.

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« Reply #248 on: August 06, 2018, 11:04:16 am »
Kemp to the leadoff spot/Fisher to 8 (9 in AL parks)?

Bregman could leadoff but he's currently needed in the rbi spot.  Maybe if Correa gets back.

And somebody needs to get busy sacrificing a goat.
This would be my thinking in AL parks. For the two games in San Fran I’m also thinking Kemp to lead off.

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« Reply #249 on: August 06, 2018, 11:05:14 am »
The Athletic reports that Derek Fisher is being called up following Springer's thumb injury:
https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1026434243277324288

ETA: Fisher is hitting .259/.384/.477 in about 200 AB at AAA, with 10 doubles, 10 home runs, and 11 steals in 12 tries.

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« Reply #250 on: August 06, 2018, 11:05:34 am »
Is Springer with the team or did he go back to Houston?

Have seen nothing about an MRI to check ligament damage, just that x-Rays were negative. Anyone hear any info regarding when/if and MRI will be performed?


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Mctaggart says Springer is in Texas.

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1026493093392965637?s=19

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The Athletic reports that Derek Fisher is being called up following Springer's thumb injury:
https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1026434243277324288

ETA: Fisher is hitting .259/.384/.477 in about 200 AB at AAA, with 10 doubles, 10 home runs, and 11 steals in 12 tries.

I guess Tucker's demotion was more about his performance than needing Marisnick up when Springer looked like he'd be out (the first time).
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« Reply #252 on: August 06, 2018, 11:10:10 am »
I guess Tucker's demotion was more about his performance than needing Marisnick up when Springer looked like he'd be out (the first time).

No doubt. They brought him up to see if he could be the postseason LFer. Nope.
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« Reply #253 on: August 06, 2018, 11:15:10 am »
Ugh
My sentiments exactly Jim.....

But don’t know what other options we have unless you try someone else like Straw and I just don’t see them starting the clock on another player.


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« Reply #254 on: August 06, 2018, 01:21:30 pm »
Marisnick needs to in the lineup. He has been great at the plate and in the field since he came back.
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« Reply #255 on: August 06, 2018, 01:23:52 pm »
Marisnick needs to in the lineup. He has been great at the plate and in the field since he came back.

With Springer out, he likely will be.
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« Reply #256 on: August 06, 2018, 01:35:50 pm »
With Springer out, he likely will be.
I think Kemp plays every day now regardless of pitching. Do you think Fish and Jake platoon based on righty/lefty?


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I think Kemp plays every day now regardless of pitching. Do you think Fish and Jake platoon based on righty/lefty?


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I hope not. I think Marisnick plays every day.

ETA Springer to DL. Thumb sprain.
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« Reply #258 on: August 06, 2018, 01:53:32 pm »
that catch he made to rob the home run yesterday was amazing.  also seems to be good for the teams morale
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« Reply #259 on: August 06, 2018, 01:55:46 pm »
Mctaggart says Springer has left thumb strain. It is not UCL sprain and they expect him out 2 weeks.

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« Reply #260 on: August 06, 2018, 01:59:17 pm »
Mctaggart says Springer has left thumb strain. It is not UCL sprain and they expect him out 2 weeks.

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« Reply #261 on: August 06, 2018, 02:00:08 pm »
Just got the official "Springer to the 10-day DL" notification from MLB.
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That is good news.
No doubt. When I saw it, I thought for sure he would be done for this year.

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« Reply #263 on: August 06, 2018, 02:02:54 pm »
See, all you Debbie Downers were saying he’s done for the season. Hope is a good thing. Maybe even the best of things. :)


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« Reply #264 on: August 06, 2018, 02:10:26 pm »
No doubt. When I saw it, I thought for sure he would be done for this year.

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« Reply #265 on: August 06, 2018, 02:15:09 pm »
That is good news.
No, it is GREAT news! I’d have bet almost anything he was done.


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« Reply #266 on: August 06, 2018, 03:25:19 pm »
See, all you Debbie Downers were saying he’s done for the season. Hope is a good thing. Maybe even the best of things. :)


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« Reply #267 on: August 06, 2018, 04:18:30 pm »
Julius Caesar out with back discomfort.

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« Reply #269 on: August 06, 2018, 05:56:47 pm »
at least they are giving springer a definite diagnosis and not just a sore this or that
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« Reply #270 on: August 06, 2018, 06:59:57 pm »
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See, all you Debbie Downers were saying he’s done for the season. Hope is a good thing. Maybe even the best of things. :)


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Correa was supposed to miss a couple games as a precaution.  He's been out two months.  I'm not sure what happened to Brian McCann...kidnapped by aliens, I suspect.  I'll be believe Springer will be back in two weeks when he's back in two weeks.
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« Reply #272 on: August 06, 2018, 07:12:28 pm »
Correa was supposed to miss a couple games as a precaution.  He's been out two months.  I'm not sure what happened to Brian McCann...kidnapped by aliens, I suspect.  I'll be believe Springer will be back in two weeks when he's back in two weeks.
I think McCann took BP with the team in LA. I got the impression from Luhnow that he is “close.”


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Correa was supposed to miss a couple games as a precaution.  He's been out two months.  I'm not sure what happened to Brian McCann...kidnapped by aliens, I suspect.  I'll be believe Springer will be back in two weeks when he's back in two weeks.

Luhnow said McCann is coming along nicely. May return sooner than expected.

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May return sooner than expected.

I guess it depends on whose expectations.  I expected him back three weeks ago. 
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Luhnow said McCann is coming along nicely. May return sooner than expected.

Without another injury to a catcher I can’t see how he returns before 9/1.
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« Reply #276 on: August 06, 2018, 07:20:12 pm »
McCann squatted for the first time since surgery in July and did take BP in LA.

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« Reply #277 on: August 06, 2018, 07:37:04 pm »
I guess it depends on whose expectations.  I expected him back three weeks ago.

He had surgery
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« Reply #278 on: August 06, 2018, 07:37:56 pm »
McCullers out till September. Forearm, not elbow.
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« Reply #279 on: August 06, 2018, 07:39:25 pm »
McCullers out till September. Forearm, not elbow.

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« Reply #281 on: August 06, 2018, 07:45:12 pm »
I guess it depends on whose expectations.  I expected him back three weeks ago.

It's never been suggested he would be back 3 weeks ago.  Where did that come from?

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« Reply #282 on: August 06, 2018, 07:56:50 pm »
I'm wondering if lance actually does come back at or near the beginning of September, if he might be moved to the pen for the last of the season.

IF the astros make the postseason I've assumed he would be going to the pen, might make sense to get him there early rather than needing to stretch him back out with only a couple of starts left.

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« Reply #283 on: August 06, 2018, 08:37:26 pm »
Hot off the presses, Julia reporting that McCann caught Verlander's bullpen today.
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« Reply #284 on: August 06, 2018, 08:42:13 pm »
Hot off the presses, Julia reporting that McCann caught Verlander's bullpen today.

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Hot off the presses, Julia reporting that McCann caught Verlander's bullpen today.

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« Reply #286 on: August 06, 2018, 09:26:41 pm »
It's never been suggested he would be back 3 weeks ago.  Where did that come from?

I’ve always been a fast healer.

And it was suggested at the time he’d be back after 10 days which would have been July 12th. Of course the injury was much worse than initially thought. Which is my point
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« Reply #287 on: August 06, 2018, 09:33:04 pm »
He had surgery

Yes I know. My point is that he was originally out with “knee discomfort” which turned out to require surgery and months of rehab. It was another example of the injury being much worse than they indicated at the time, which contributes to my pessimism that Springer’s injury will be short term.
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« Reply #288 on: August 06, 2018, 09:54:53 pm »
I’ve always been a fast healer.

And it was suggested at the time he’d be back after 10 days which would have been July 12th. Of course the injury was much worse than initially thought. Which is my point

Ah, I gotcha,

Well, fast healer, until McCann is back, grab a mitt and get out there!

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« Reply #289 on: August 06, 2018, 10:02:50 pm »
Ah, I gotcha,

Well, fast healer, until McCann is back, grab a mitt and get out there!

I’m ready anybyime. I even have my own catcher’s gear
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I’m ready anybyime. I even have my own catcher’s gear
That would be so cool.
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« Reply #291 on: August 06, 2018, 10:06:05 pm »
That would be so cool.

Until the first time you caught a Cole 99 mph fastball on your palm.
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« Reply #292 on: August 06, 2018, 10:07:07 pm »
Until the first time you caught a Cole 99 mph fastball on your palm.

Yeah, I'd just run away crying.

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« Reply #293 on: August 06, 2018, 10:07:29 pm »
Until the first time you caught a Cole 99 mph fastball on your palm.

Or in the nuts. Neither would be good.
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Until the first time you caught a Cole 99 mph fastball on your palm.
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« Reply #295 on: August 07, 2018, 08:31:35 am »
Without another injury to a catcher I can’t see how he returns before 9/1.
I sort of agree.  I don't see them keeping three catchers and wouldn't anticipate a Stassi demotion, but I suppose that could happen.

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« Reply #296 on: August 07, 2018, 09:36:31 am »
I sort of agree.  I don't see them keeping three catchers and wouldn't anticipate a Stassi demotion, but I suppose that could happen.

Stassi's out of options.  Kemp, Marisnick, White, and Davis could go down.  That leaves you very thin on either the infield or outfield though.
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« Reply #297 on: August 07, 2018, 11:48:19 am »
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« Reply #298 on: August 07, 2018, 12:18:27 pm »
Fisher would be my choice.

I think folks around here vastly underrate Fisher's ability to watch completely hittable pitches all the way into the webbing of the catcher's mltt.


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« Reply #299 on: August 07, 2018, 12:23:01 pm »
I thought I read about how the Astros were going to carry three catchers when they traded for Maldonado, but can't seem to find it.

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« Reply #300 on: August 07, 2018, 12:59:09 pm »
Someone posted on Twitter last night in response to a comment I made that Luhnow has indicated that the Astros would keep three catchers on the roster during the playoffs.  But that makes absolutely no sense to me. 
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Someone posted on Twitter last night in response to a comment I made that Luhnow has indicated that the Astros would keep three catchers on the roster during the playoffs.  But that makes absolutely no sense to me.

Since none of them are great hitters they may plan to PH for them in late situations. And they may want to insert Maldonado into the game late, if he isn't already, for slowing the running game.
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« Reply #302 on: August 07, 2018, 01:21:22 pm »
Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?

I think that McCann is the odd man out.  He's maybe the worst defensively of the three.  And Stassi is the best hitter.
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« Reply #303 on: August 07, 2018, 01:23:35 pm »
Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?

I think that McCann is the odd man out.  He's maybe the worst defensively of the three.  And Stassi is the best hitter.
Uh, McCann is the best hitter of the 3. And while he isn't as good technically as a defender, hes a leader and the pitchers trust him which counts for a ton

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« Reply #304 on: August 07, 2018, 01:29:48 pm »
Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?

I think that McCann is the odd man out.  He's maybe the worst defensively of the three.  And Stassi is the best hitter.

McCann turned in more than a few high quality at bats last post season. Regardless, the pitching staff consensus was that he was the MVP.
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« Reply #305 on: August 07, 2018, 01:29:57 pm »
Fisher would be my choice.

Right, Fisher.  Which still leaves you with just 3 outfielders.  Unless you want White or Gurriel playing 2b and Marwin in the outfield.

On the bright side IF Correa shows no ill effects from playing all nine innings on back to back days in Corpus the next couple of days he should join the Astros on the next homestand.
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« Reply #306 on: August 07, 2018, 01:31:13 pm »
Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?



I think that McCann is the odd man out.  He's maybe the worst defensively of the three.  And Stassi is the best hitter.
While Luhnow didn’t clarify, I took it to mean they will carry 3 catchers on the 40 man roster, leaving a proven catcher available if someone gets hurt during a series (IF THEY MAKE IT). Don’t want to anger the BBG’s.

I think they keep 3 catchers on the 40 man roster and decide before each series (IF THEY MAKE IT) which two they want to go with for that series. Having that third catcher to fall back on in case of injury is a real plus, especially given McCann’s age and recent fragility. If I am correct in that assumption, and McCann proves to be healthy, then I think Stassi will be the odd man outside the 25 man roster and will be called upon only if there is an injury. Maldonado’s arm will be a big factor IF THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS in my opinion.


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« Reply #307 on: August 07, 2018, 01:35:39 pm »
I think they keep 3 catchers on the 40 man roster and decide before each series (IF THEY MAKE IT) which two they want to go with for that series. Having that third catcher to fall back on in case of injury is a real plus, especially given McCann’s age and recent fragility. If I am correct in that assumption, and McCann proves to be healthy, then I think Stassi will be the odd man outside the 25 man roster and will be called upon only if there is an injury. Maldonado’s arm will be a big factor IF THEY MAKE TBE PLAYOFFS in my opinion.


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They carried 3 catchers last year and IF they make it again, will do the same. If you lose a player in the middle of a series, he cant be replaced. You can use the 3rd catcher spot by having 1 fewer pitcher. It wont really affect the bench.

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« Reply #308 on: August 07, 2018, 01:37:27 pm »
They carried 3 catchers last year and IF they make it again, will do the same. If you lose a player in the middle of a series, he cant be replaced. You can use the 3rd catcher spot by having 1 fewer pitcher. It wont really affect the bench.

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Actually, I’m pretty sure you can replace a player lost to injury during the playoffs as long as the player you are replacing him with is on the 40-man. Pretty sure this has come into play each of the last two seasons with other teams. I could be wrong....


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« Reply #309 on: August 07, 2018, 01:40:46 pm »
Uh, McCann is was the best hitter of the 3 in 2013.

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« Reply #310 on: August 07, 2018, 01:48:32 pm »
Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?

I think that McCann is the odd man out.  He's maybe the worst defensively of the three.  And Stassi is the best hitter.

No way in hell. The pitchers would go on strike. You cut him last year too.
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Actually, I’m pretty sure you can replace a player lost to injury during the playoffs as long as the player you are replacing him with is on the 40-man. Pretty sure this has come into play each of the last two seasons with other teams. I could be wrong....


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You might be right. Maybe it's that they miss the next series if replaced. I know there is a big downside to replacing a player mid series to keep teams from taking advantage

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« Reply #313 on: August 07, 2018, 02:01:56 pm »
Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?

I think that McCann is the odd man out.  He's maybe the worst defensively of the three.  And Stassi is the best hitter.

Read this again. This is the craziest statement today. You obviously did not watch last year’s postseason or listen to the pitchers talk about him.

McCann is the odd man out? Hahahahahaha!
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« Reply #314 on: August 07, 2018, 02:11:40 pm »
I don't care what McCann's slash line looks like.  If it's a big at-bat in the postseason, I want McCann up there over Stassi every time.
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McCann knows how to pitch to big league hitters in highly leveraged situations.




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« Reply #316 on: August 07, 2018, 02:16:31 pm »
Read this again. This is the craziest statement today. You obviously did not watch last year’s postseason or listen to the pitchers talk about him.

McCann is the odd man out? Hahahahahaha!
Agree Jim. McCann has an intangible value that is almost impossible to put a value on. If he is healthy, he plays. It will come down to if you want Maldonado’s arm or Stassi’s bat. I will take the arm. Stassi has really cooled off to the point where there isn’t an egregious difference between he and Martin at the plate. I do agree with someone else who said that IF THEY MAKE IT, you could carry 3 active catchers. You won’t need to carry 13 pitchers for the playoffs. Still, I think 2 on the active for a series and the other on the 40 in case of injury is the way to go.


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« Reply #317 on: August 07, 2018, 02:28:18 pm »
Actually, I’m pretty sure you can replace a player lost to injury during the playoffs as long as the player you are replacing him with is on the 40-man. Pretty sure this has come into play each of the last two seasons with other teams. I could be wrong....


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Not only that, you can carry a "26th man" on the postseason roster...a catcher who can substitute for a catcher who suffers a concussion.  Must be catcher for catcher, however.
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a catchers value is way more than hitting.  he stays
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« Reply #319 on: August 08, 2018, 09:41:17 am »
Not only that, you can carry a "26th man" on the postseason roster...a catcher who can substitute for a catcher who suffers a concussion.  Must be catcher for catcher, however.
I did not know that.  How long has that been in effect?
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« Reply #320 on: August 08, 2018, 10:37:07 am »
Read this again. This is the craziest statement today. You obviously did not watch last year’s postseason or listen to the pitchers talk about him.

McCann is the odd man out? Hahahahahaha!

Comparing last year to this year doesn't make any sense.  First, the Astros went out and literally brought in the 2017 AL gold glove catcher -- a guy who shuts down the opposing team's running game.

Second, McCann is coming off of a serious knee injury that required surgery.  He was already subpar at catching balls in the dirt (which the Astros purposely do all of the time).  Do you think he's going to be better coming off of knee surgery?

Third, you know I watched all of the playoffs last season.  Did you?  McCann was a terrible hitter in the playoffs last season.  He batted .175 and struck out 17 times in 57 ABs.  He had one big hit in the World Series.  At the same time, the Astros had 8 WPs while he was catching in the playoffs last season. 

Finally, maybe you should listening to what the Astros pitchers are saying this season about Stassi and more recently about Maldonado. 
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« Reply #321 on: August 08, 2018, 10:46:16 am »
Comparing last year to this year doesn't make any sense.  First, the Astros went out and literally brought in the 2017 AL gold glove catcher -- a guy who shuts down the opposing team's running game.

Second, McCann is coming off of a serious knee injury that required surgery.  He was already subpar at catching balls in the dirt (which the Astros purposely do all of the time).  Do you think he's going to be better coming off of knee surgery?

Third, you know I watched all of the playoffs last season.  Did you?  McCann was a terrible hitter in the playoffs last season.  He batted .175 and struck out 17 times in 57 ABs.  He had one big hit in the World Series.  At the same time, the Astros had 8 WPs while he was catching in the playoffs last season. 

Finally, maybe you should start reading quotes from this season from the Astros pitchers about Stassi and more recently about Maldonado.

You have been on this get rid of McCann kick for two years now. He had two big hits in the NYY elimination games, which were crucial hits in those games. The one big hit you concede in the WS was in Game Five and was a homer off a lefty which regained a three run lead and prevented a nine inning loss. Bregman gave him credit for the win.

What you totally ignore is what McCann means to the pitchers. McCullers called him the team MVP, and JV was giddy McCann was back to catch his bullpen session. I cannot understand this for you, but there is no way in hell he will be the odd man out.

Wait! A WP proves he is a bad catcher? Stassi and Maldano are good defensive catcher, but they cannot handle the pitchers like McCann. JV can hardly contain his irritation with Stassi and has chewed his ass on the mound more than once. There will be a catcher rotation for sure, but McCann is invaluable to the pitching staff.

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« Reply #322 on: August 08, 2018, 11:24:12 am »
I am not on a "get rid of McCann" kick.

I am on a "it makes no sense to carry three catchers" kick.

The best defensive catcher the Astros can put out on the field for the remainder of the season and into the playoffs is Maldonado hands down.  In the playoffs I want him starting every game if possible.   Maldonado calls a great game.  If you were watching this week, you would have heard the broadcasters talking about this. 

And if you are going to drop one of the Astros three catchers, I'd drop the one coming off of knee surgery (Knees are kind of important for a catcher and play a significant role for hitting as well).   

But I'm glad that you admit that Maldonado and Stassi are good defensive catchers. 
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I did not know that.  How long has that been in effect?

A couple of years now, I think.  Since concussions have been a hot topic and they instituted "the protocol".
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« Reply #324 on: August 08, 2018, 12:08:08 pm »
I am waiting for HH to weigh in on this.

I think you know where I'll line up on this.  Any argument that contains "a terrible hitter in the playoffs" when discussing catcher cuts no ice with me.  McCann's value last year was beyond self-evident IMO.  He was absolutely the right guy for the job, for a host of reasons that don't include his postseason batting average.  If he's 100% and can play, absolutely he's the number one catcher for the remainder of this season.  I question whether or not he'll be 100%, but that's a different discussion.  Stassi has done an admirable job filling in, and there's a lot to like a Maldonado, who very well may be the answer in the future.  But McCann brings more to this team than his batting average and the number of wild pitches thrown when he's behind the plate. 
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« Reply #325 on: August 08, 2018, 03:39:14 pm »
I think you know where I'll line up on this.  Any argument that contains "a terrible hitter in the playoffs" when discussing catcher cuts no ice with me.  McCann's value last year was beyond self-evident IMO.  He was absolutely the right guy for the job, for a host of reasons that don't include his postseason batting average.  If he's 100% and can play, absolutely he's the number one catcher for the remainder of this season.  I question whether or not he'll be 100%, but that's a different discussion.  Stassi has done an admirable job filling in, and there's a lot to like a Maldonado, who very well may be the answer in the future.  But McCann brings more to this team than his batting average and the number of wild pitches thrown when he's behind the plate.

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« Reply #326 on: August 08, 2018, 03:52:10 pm »
I am not on a "get rid of McCann" kick.

I am on a "it makes no sense to carry three catchers" kick.

The best defensive catcher the Astros can put out on the field for the remainder of the season and into the playoffs is Maldonado hands down.  In the playoffs I want him starting every game if possible.   Maldonado calls a great game.  If you were watching this week, you would have heard the broadcasters talking about this. 

And if you are going to drop one of the Astros three catchers, I'd drop the one coming off of knee surgery (Knees are kind of important for a catcher and play a significant role for hitting as well).   

But I'm glad that you admit that Maldonado and Stassi are good defensive catchers.
With catchers, it's not always about whose "best" its, who do the pitchers want/trust. Trust is 90% mental and 10% blocking/catching/throwing out runners. These guys(rotation minus cole) have played with McCann a while now, won a championship throwing to him. That cant be ignored. Are MM and Stassi better defensively? 100%. Are they better offensively? We can debate that but its probably pretty close.

I'll take a healthy McCann and feel pretty good about my choice. If hes not healthy in 6 weeks, IF the astros make the postseason, then we'll talk about MM or stassi as the guy.

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« Reply #327 on: August 08, 2018, 04:10:56 pm »
Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?

I think that McCann is the odd man out.  He's maybe the worst defensively of the three.  And Stassi is the best hitter.

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« Reply #328 on: August 08, 2018, 04:37:31 pm »
didn't verlander school stasis in one game?  not something you want in the playoffs if the pitcher has a itch the catcher should know where to scratch
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« Reply #329 on: August 09, 2018, 03:49:34 pm »
Looks like Correa will return to the lineup tomorrow. Hes at minute maid today but not yet activated

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« Reply #332 on: August 09, 2018, 07:35:55 pm »
Damn national league.

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The Chron has just about the worst web page bullshit to content ratio that I've had the displeasure to encounter. Pages take forever to load, and when they're finally loaded there are about two paragraphs on whatever topic you came for.
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« Reply #334 on: August 09, 2018, 11:05:20 pm »
Correa activated, JD Davis sent down.

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I'm a little late to the catcher discussion here, but if for no other reason, the Verlander/Stassi mound visits alone this season tell me that McCann is absolutely on the playoff roster.

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Not sure whether this has been noted anywhere:

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Not sure whether this has been noted anywhere:

Christian Boutwell @byCBoutwell 17h ago
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« Reply #338 on: August 10, 2018, 04:25:44 pm »
I am not on a "get rid of McCann" kick.

I am on a "it makes no sense to carry three catchers" kick.

The best defensive catcher the Astros can put out on the field for the remainder of the season and into the playoffs is Maldonado hands down.  In the playoffs I want him starting every game if possible.   Maldonado calls a great game.  If you were watching this week, you would have heard the broadcasters talking about this. 

And if you are going to drop one of the Astros three catchers, I'd drop the one coming off of knee surgery (Knees are kind of important for a catcher and play a significant role for hitting as well).   

But I'm glad that you admit that Maldonado and Stassi are good defensive catchers.

A catcher calls more than 100 pitches a game.  His ability to be elite at that aspect of his job and have the respect of the pitching staff is more important than pitch framing or shutting down the running game.  McCann has that in spades over Max Stassi, who has been chewed out by numerous Astros’ pitchers for his game calling this season.

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« Reply #339 on: August 10, 2018, 05:45:21 pm »
Altuve won't return until next Friday at the earliest, twitter tells me.

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« Reply #340 on: August 10, 2018, 06:14:39 pm »
Altuve won't return until next Friday at the earliest, twitter tells me.

Guess that sounds about right for a best case scenario if there's a rehab stint in there.

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« Reply #341 on: August 10, 2018, 06:47:19 pm »
Altuve won't return until next Friday at the earliest, twitter tells me.
Did twitter mention a minor league rehab assignment?

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Did twitter mention a minor league rehab assignment?

Twitter did not.

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« Reply #343 on: August 10, 2018, 11:29:51 pm »
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« Reply #344 on: August 11, 2018, 02:01:25 pm »
Marisnick to DL. Tucker up.
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« Reply #345 on: August 11, 2018, 02:18:01 pm »
Marisnick to DL. Tucker up.

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« Reply #346 on: August 11, 2018, 03:25:52 pm »
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« Reply #347 on: August 11, 2018, 03:27:28 pm »
Who's the next outfielder in line? Straw?
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« Reply #348 on: August 11, 2018, 03:36:06 pm »
Who's the next outfielder in line? Straw?
I think it would have to be.....or a waiver trade for someone. Hopefully this is all we will have to endure on the injury front.


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« Reply #349 on: August 11, 2018, 10:41:06 pm »
Just a gut feeling,  that this time up, Tucker is going to get starTED on very solid major league career. But I still love what Kemp is doing.
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« Reply #350 on: August 12, 2018, 11:38:03 am »
No team could survive the injuries to the major stars we have had. Wee need to be patient and hope we hang on.
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« Reply #351 on: August 12, 2018, 12:01:00 pm »
No team could survive the injuries to the major stars we have had. Wee need to be patient and hope we hang on.

That's it.

If it comes down to a one month race for the division,  and we're healthy,  I like our chances.

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« Reply #352 on: August 12, 2018, 12:47:06 pm »
They are now missing 3 core regulars, a starter, a key reliever and a valuable sub. Another core regular is playing his way back after missing 40 games. The last road trip showed a ton of grit and resilience, but it was an anomaly. It is going to continue to be tough sledding for a while. 
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« Reply #353 on: August 12, 2018, 06:54:53 pm »
If it hasn't already been noted elsewhere:

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#Astros manager AJ Hinch said OF Jake Marisnick (groin) is expected to be out for multiple weeks, at least until late August or into September.

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« Reply #354 on: August 14, 2018, 07:05:43 am »
Who's the next outfielder in line? Straw?
Not sure what to read into this, but JD Davis is the regular in RF at Fresno recently.
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« Reply #355 on: August 14, 2018, 02:01:42 pm »
Not sure what to read into this, but JD Davis is the regular in RF at Fresno recently.

That has to do with the fact that Alvarez and Straw are the only healthy outfielders on the Grizz roster.

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« Reply #356 on: August 14, 2018, 03:30:41 pm »
That has to do with the fact that Alvarez and Straw are the only healthy outfielders on the Grizz roster.

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« Reply #357 on: August 14, 2018, 03:59:07 pm »
Indians’ Trevor Bauer to the DL. It could be a while. Stress fracture in fibula I think is what they said on radio.




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« Reply #358 on: August 14, 2018, 05:25:35 pm »
Mark Berman @MarkBermanFox26 1h ago
AJ Hinch says Chris Devenski will pitch tonight for Triple-A Fresno, Brian McCann will began rehab stint with the Grizzlies Thursday.

Jake Kaplan  @jakemkaplan 25m ago
George Springer took BP, ran the bases and threw to the bases today at Minute Maid Park. All signs point to his activation Friday, the first day he's eligible to return.

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Jose Altuve progressed to running yesterday on a treadmill. A.J. Hinch said Altuve might try to hit in the cage today or tomorrow, as well.
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« Reply #359 on: August 15, 2018, 10:25:47 am »
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AJ Hinch says Chris Devenski will pitch tonight for Triple-A Fresno, Brian McCann will began rehab stint with the Grizzlies Thursday.


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« Reply #360 on: August 15, 2018, 10:31:39 am »
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AJ Hinch says Chris Devenski will pitch tonight for Triple-A Fresno, Brian McCann will began rehab stint with the Grizzlies Thursday.

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George Springer took BP, ran the bases and threw to the bases today at Minute Maid Park. All signs point to his activation Friday, the first day he's eligible to return.

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Jose Altuve progressed to running yesterday on a treadmill. A.J. Hinch said Altuve might try to hit in the cage today or tomorrow, as well.

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« Reply #361 on: August 15, 2018, 01:04:03 pm »
Martes underwent Tommy John surgery today, out 12-16 months.


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« Reply #362 on: August 15, 2018, 01:06:02 pm »
McTaggart tweet:

Francis Martes underwent surgery today in Houston: Right Elbow Ulnar Collateral Ligament Reconstruction.

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« Reply #363 on: August 15, 2018, 01:22:09 pm »
OWA is day to day with GI discomfort.

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« Reply #364 on: August 15, 2018, 02:49:12 pm »
OWA is day to day with GI discomfort.

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« Reply #365 on: August 15, 2018, 04:11:52 pm »
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« Reply #366 on: August 15, 2018, 07:14:28 pm »
move along and pretend no one said that... cant take chances you know
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« Reply #367 on: August 15, 2018, 07:20:14 pm »
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« Reply #368 on: August 15, 2018, 07:43:25 pm »
Not if I have a say.
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« Reply #369 on: August 15, 2018, 07:52:22 pm »
Does Harris still have a spot when Devo returns? Discuss.

No if I am calling the shots.

Yes, probably. Perez out.
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« Reply #370 on: August 15, 2018, 08:08:04 pm »
No if I am calling the shots.

Yes, probably. Perez out.

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« Reply #371 on: August 15, 2018, 10:01:30 pm »
No if I am calling the shots.

Yes, probably. Perez out.
Yeah, you are probably right Jim, and I’m gonna be pissed and disappointed with that decision.

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« Reply #372 on: August 15, 2018, 11:15:58 pm »
Does Harris still have a spot when Devo returns? Discuss.
When devo comes back it'll be Perez going down. What will be interesting is when next tuesday comes around and another starter is needed. I'm thinking maybe Harris has a phantom DL stint if they decide to call someone up to make that start.

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« Reply #373 on: August 16, 2018, 09:43:18 am »
I really like what I've seen from Perez.  Also Pressly.  (Killer Ps?).

It's hard to believe how Harris has totally gone to shit.  I guess that relievers just have a shelf-life and he's hit his.  (Maybe Devenski too, just saying).  Although I thought that was the case with Sipp and he is having a fine 2018 season.

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« Reply #374 on: August 16, 2018, 09:53:32 am »
I really like what I've seen from Perez.  Also Pressly.  (Killer Ps?).

It's hard to believe how Harris has totally gone to shit.  I guess that relievers just have a shelf-life and he's hit his.  (Maybe Devenski too, just saying).  Although I thought that was the case with Sipp and he is having a fine 2018 season.

Devo was great for the first part of the season.

He looked totally out of gas for two weeks before his "hamstring injury.
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« Reply #375 on: August 16, 2018, 12:43:38 pm »
I really like what I've seen from Perez.  Also Pressly.  (Killer Ps?).

It's hard to believe how Harris has totally gone to shit.  I guess that relievers just have a shelf-life and he's hit his.  (Maybe Devenski too, just saying).  Although I thought that was the case with Sipp and he is having a fine 2018 season.

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« Reply #376 on: August 16, 2018, 01:00:26 pm »
I really like what I've seen from Perez.  Also Pressly.  (Killer Ps?).

It's hard to believe how Harris has totally gone to shit.  I guess that relievers just have a shelf-life and he's hit his.  (Maybe Devenski too, just saying).  Although I thought that was the case with Sipp and he is having a fine 2018 season.

Harris had a shoulder problem last year which put him on the DL twice. He has not been the same since.
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« Reply #378 on: August 17, 2018, 04:36:55 pm »
Altuve running the bases:

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1030563273999970304?s=19
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« Reply #379 on: August 17, 2018, 09:36:54 pm »
Run today, run tomorrow, if there's no soreness or pain Sunday, then it's time for a rehab stint. Unless they want to activate him straight away

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Julia just said he’ll have a quick rehab. The Grizzlies are in Tacoma while the Astros are in Seattle, so maybe there.
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« Reply #380 on: August 17, 2018, 09:44:42 pm »
Julia just said he’ll have a quick rehab. The Grizzlies are in Tacoma while the Astros are in Seattle, so maybe there.
Yeah I imagine the plan is for him to be activated Friday in LA of Anaheim of California of USA of earth

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« Reply #381 on: August 17, 2018, 10:42:54 pm »
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« Reply #382 on: August 20, 2018, 06:34:55 pm »
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Brian McCann said he will travel tomorrow and join Double-A Corpus Christi on Wednesday to continue his rehab assignment. He said this is the best his knees have felt in years.

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Chris Devenski is also headed to Corpus Christi this week. He said he believes he has two more rehab appearances to go.
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« Reply #383 on: August 20, 2018, 06:45:09 pm »
Springer scratched from lineup for tonight's game.

Altuve will apparently be activated tomorrow.

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« Reply #384 on: August 20, 2018, 07:09:40 pm »
Springer scratched from lineup for tonight's game.


Hinch says for left quad soreness. Available to pinch hit. Said he would likely deal with thumb soreness the rest of the season.
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« Reply #385 on: August 20, 2018, 07:44:42 pm »
Springer scratched from lineup for tonight's game.

Altuve will apparently be activated tomorrow.

He has a memento from his time in Fresno:

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1031687824871849984?s=19

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« Reply #386 on: August 20, 2018, 07:54:45 pm »
He has a memento from his time in Fresno:

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1031687824871849984?s=19
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« Reply #387 on: August 20, 2018, 08:28:54 pm »
Chandler Rome @Chandler_Rome 11m ago
Brian McCann said he will travel tomorrow and join Double-A Corpus Christi on Wednesday to continue his rehab assignment. He said this is the best his knees have felt in years.

Jake Kaplan  @jakemkaplan 22s ago
Chris Devenski is also headed to Corpus Christi this week. He said he believes he has two more rehab appearances to go.


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« Reply #388 on: August 21, 2018, 12:49:29 am »
Tucker sent down to make room for Altuve.

White rewarded for his production with some more time with the big club in August.   Guessing he'll do some DH and maybe give Yuli an occasional break from the field.

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« Reply #389 on: August 21, 2018, 08:56:05 am »
Tucker sent down to make room for Altuve.

White rewarded for his production with some more time with the big club in August.   Guessing he'll do some DH and maybe give Yuli an occasional break from the field.

Since White got called back up in September 2016 he's hit better than any Astro not named Altuve.

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« Reply #390 on: August 21, 2018, 09:04:53 am »
in 9 games since being activated, Correa is hitting .094.  His OPS is .319.  I sure hope it doesn't take Altuve until September to his kid's weight. 
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« Reply #391 on: August 21, 2018, 09:56:17 am »
in 9 games since being activated, Correa is hitting .094.  His OPS is .319.  I sure hope it doesn't take Altuve until September to his kid's weight.
I know you know this, but back problems are much more likely to linger in a way that affects the ability to swing a bat than is "knee discomfort".  I expect Altuve to jump right back into things.
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« Reply #392 on: August 21, 2018, 10:06:21 am »
Since White got called back up in September 2016 he's hit better than any Astro not named Altuve.

.277/.348/.537 in 210 plate appearances.

Great post. I wouldn't have guessed that. Maybe he deserves a full-time job?

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« Reply #393 on: August 21, 2018, 10:29:56 am »
Great post. I wouldn't have guessed that. Maybe he deserves a full-time job?

Could see Yuli getting traded this offseason.

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« Reply #394 on: August 21, 2018, 10:41:14 am »
I know you know this, but back problems are much more likely to linger in a way that affects the ability to swing a bat than is "knee discomfort".  I expect Altuve to jump right back into things.

That may be.  But Correa is still not hitting, be it because of back problems, knee problems, or because Jobu is on vacation.  Results matter. 
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« Reply #395 on: August 21, 2018, 11:08:29 am »
Could see Yuli getting traded this offseason.

Gattis would go before Yuli.  Yuli's a good defensive 1B, and can play 2nd/3rd if the world ends and the middle half of the infield is injured.   

But when would that ever happen?

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« Reply #396 on: August 21, 2018, 11:41:04 am »
Gattis would go before Yuli.  Yuli's a good defensive 1B, and can play 2nd/3rd if the world ends and the middle half of the infield is injured.   

But when would that ever happen?
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« Reply #397 on: August 21, 2018, 03:30:43 pm »
Cionel Perez optioned, Framber Valdez called up from AAA.

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« Reply #398 on: August 21, 2018, 03:32:50 pm »
Peacock still starting.

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« Reply #399 on: August 21, 2018, 03:48:03 pm »
Framber stepping into the Sipp role?
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« Reply #400 on: August 21, 2018, 03:52:29 pm »
Framber stepping into the Sipp role?
If I had to guess, the plan might be, peacock for 3 innings and valdez for 3 innings then the rest of the pen to finish depending on how the game goes

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« Reply #401 on: August 21, 2018, 04:43:24 pm »
That may be.  But Correa is still not hitting, be it because of back problems, knee problems, or because Jobu is on vacation.  Results matter.
I agree about Correa ... I just do not think that will happen to Altuve.  But juneberno.
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« Reply #402 on: August 21, 2018, 06:14:50 pm »
If I had to guess, the plan might be, peacock for 3 innings and valdez for 3 innings then the rest of the pen to finish depending on how the game goes

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My thoughts as well, and I expect Valdez to get sent back down tomorrow to bring a fresh arm up.
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« Reply #403 on: August 21, 2018, 06:25:41 pm »
My thoughts as well, and I expect Valdez to get sent back down tomorrow to bring a fresh arm up.
I wouldn't be surprised to see devo back tomorrow and valdez back down

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« Reply #404 on: August 21, 2018, 06:30:08 pm »
Springer not in the lineup again tonight

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« Reply #405 on: August 21, 2018, 06:32:47 pm »
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Discomfort?

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« Reply #406 on: August 21, 2018, 06:33:35 pm »
Discomfort?
No new news that I've read. The word yesterday was "quad soreness"

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« Reply #407 on: August 21, 2018, 06:36:15 pm »
No new news that I've read. The word yesterday was "quad soreness"

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« Reply #408 on: August 21, 2018, 06:49:09 pm »
Didn't George miss a couple of months with a sore quad awhile back?
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« Reply #409 on: August 21, 2018, 06:52:52 pm »
Didn't George miss a couple of months with a sore quad awhile back?
I believe that year(2014) it was a strained quad and was shut down in August that year but there really wasnt much point in bringing him back for the last 2 weeks.

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« Reply #410 on: August 21, 2018, 07:03:12 pm »
I believe that year(2014) it was a strained quad and was shut down in August that year but there really wasnt much point in bringing him back for the last 2 weeks.

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Quad in 2014, wrist in 2015 (missed 53 games)..

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« Reply #411 on: August 21, 2018, 07:37:10 pm »
Mike leake scratched with illness. Its gonna be bullpen vs bullpen tonight

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« Reply #412 on: August 21, 2018, 07:39:37 pm »
Mike leake scratched with illness. Its gonna be bullpen vs bullpen tonight

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« Reply #413 on: August 21, 2018, 07:40:45 pm »
Framber stepping into the Sipp role?

He was scheduled to start tonight at AAA so I’m sure it’s just to eat a couple innings tonight behind Peacock and others for the bullpen start

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« Reply #414 on: August 21, 2018, 07:41:29 pm »
This may be a wild one.
Whatever happens, extra innings would be worst case scenario for both teams. Let's just get on them early. Please.

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« Reply #415 on: August 22, 2018, 01:20:03 am »
That may be.  But Correa is still not hitting, be it because of back problems, knee problems, or because Jobu is on vacation.  Results matter.

Correa had a great April and a decent June. That's it. Correa is only hitting .239 (before tonight's game) against righties, which is troubling.

 I think that it's time to consider making Bregman the SS and trading Correa, who would fetch a huge price, easily a proven bat or a lockdown closer, and a prospect or two.

I watch Frankie Lindor play almost every night. Frankly, Correa isn't in Lindor's league. Lindor is a better overall hitter, better power hitter, better baserunner, better run producer and better fielder and a switch hitter to boot. I think that Bregman is a better SS right now than Correa. Correa drew comparisons to A-Rod when drafted. Candidly, he's come nowhere close to that comparison, which probably was grossly unfair to Correa. Lindor compares much more favorably to A-Rod, at least in numbers, but even his numbers are much lower than A-Rod's. Simply put, A-Rod was the Mike Trout of his generation.

In my opinion, Ground Control should at least countenance the possibility of trading Correa, probably in the off-season. He's obviously a great kid and a good clubhouse guy, and I'd hate to see him go. However, business is business. Oakland and Seattle are relentless. Our margin for error in repeating is miniscule. Luhnow et al. have to consider every realistic possibility to improve the club, which needs production out of LF and a lockdown closer badly.
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« Reply #416 on: August 22, 2018, 03:17:46 am »
Correa had a great April and a decent June. That's it. Correa is only hitting .239 (before tonight's game) against righties, which is troubling.

 I think that it's time to consider making Bregman the SS and trading Correa, who would fetch a huge price, easily a proven bat or a lockdown closer, and a prospect or two.

I watch Frankie Lindor play almost every night. Frankly, Correa isn't in Lindor's league. Lindor is a better overall hitter, better power hitter, better baserunner, better run producer and better fielder and a switch hitter to boot. I think that Bregman is a better SS right now than Correa. Correa drew comparisons to A-Rod when drafted. Candidly, he's come nowhere close to that comparison, which probably was grossly unfair to Correa. Lindor compares much more favorably to A-Rod, at least in numbers, but even his numbers are much lower than A-Rod's. Simply put, A-Rod was the Mike Trout of his generation.

In my opinion, Ground Control should at least countenance the possibility of trading Correa, probably in the off-season. He's obviously a great kid and a good clubhouse guy, and I'd hate to see him go. However, business is business. Oakland and Seattle are relentless. Our margin for error in repeating is miniscule. Luhnow et al. have to consider every realistic possibility to improve the club, which needs production out of LF and a lockdown closer badly.
Wow. Dude is 23 and isn't the best player in baseball. Yeah let's trade him. Come on man.

Yeah Carlos is not playing great right now but lets not forget that he was a top 5 player in baseball before his injury last season and was good after coming back. His defense has improved and while he'll never be a great defensive player, he doesnt hurt you there.

Just because he isn't Lindor, doesnt mean you trade a Carlos Correa. And if you actually look at the career numbers to this point, the two are very similar.

Lindor has a career slash line of

.293/.354/.491/.845

Correa's career slash line is

.281/.360/.488/.848

On offense, it's a wash.

"James harden isn't the best player in the league and we could get a haul for him so we should trade him"

You dont trade a guy for being really really good but not the best in the league. That's fucking stupid.

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« Reply #417 on: August 22, 2018, 05:25:54 am »
Wow. Dude is 23 and isn't the best player in baseball. Yeah let's trade him. Come on man.

Yeah Carlos is not playing great right now but lets not forget that he was a top 5 player in baseball before his injury last season and was good after coming back. His defense has improved and while he'll never be a great defensive player, he doesnt hurt you there.

Just because he isn't Lindor, doesnt mean you trade a Carlos Correa. And if you actually look at the career numbers to this point, the two are very similar.

Lindor has a career slash line of

.293/.354/.491/.845

Correa's career slash line is

.281/.360/.488/.848

On offense, it's a wash.

"James harden isn't the best player in the league and we could get a haul for him so we should trade him"

You dont trade a guy for being really really good but not the best in the league. That's fucking stupid.

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Sigh. We have two big league SSs. You think that it's "fucking stupid" to consider trading one to get help at some other spots? Really. Alright, let me ask you this, smart guy: would you trade Correa or Bregman if it made sense to move either one? If forced to move one, I'd trade Correa and keep Bregman.  I'm not proposing some insane move a la Tod the Bod. I wouldn't just trade Correa willy nilly. I trust Luhnow to get value for him if a deal made sense. I merely suggested that it was worthy of consideration.

Frankly, your quick and dirty slash line comparison is incomplete to say the very least because it doesn't show Lindor's true value. In fact, it's fucking stupid to use your parlance. Lindor has already scored 103 runs out of the leadoff spot, and he's on pace to drive in more than 100 runs and steal about 25 bags while hitting 35 homers. Those are All-Star numbers. Monster numbers. Almost A-Rod numbers. Lindor hit 33 dingers last year. Correa tops out at 24 long balls and hasn't driven in 100 (did hit 96) while hitting out of the clean up spot.  For you stat geeks, Lindor also has a higher career WAR than Correa. A wash, you say? The numbers say otherwise.

James Harden? WTF I'm not suggesting that we trade Correa because he's not the best SS in baseball. I'm not even suggesting thatt we absolutely move Correa. I merely said that the front office should be open to the possibility of trading him if it made sense and improved the club.
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« Reply #418 on: August 22, 2018, 07:51:17 am »
Correa is going to be a hard decision for the club, IMO.  Down the road, not necessarily this off-season.  If he were healthy, he has a ceiling of above average SS to all star SS.  I used to think he had a ceiling of superstar, but his ABs have too much guess for a superstar bat, and I don't think that is going away.

My main concern with him is that he is brittle.  Always seems to be something.  He'll eventually demand big money and they might have to choose between him and Bregman.  If they have to choose, they'll choose Bregman, and who wouldn't.

At any rate, thinking about dealing him in the off-season isn't crazy at all and a sensible front office is always open to those things.  But, they will likely want to see if he can be healthy, and then see if a healthy Correa can make a jump to a higher level.

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« Reply #419 on: August 22, 2018, 08:37:53 am »
I'm not proposing some insane move a la Tod the Bod.

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« Reply #420 on: August 22, 2018, 09:29:10 am »
Correa had a great April and a decent June. That's it. Correa is only hitting .239 (before tonight's game) against righties, which is troubling.

 I think that it's time to consider making Bregman the SS and trading Correa, who would fetch a huge price, easily a proven bat or a lockdown closer, and a prospect or two.

I watch Frankie Lindor play almost every night. Frankly, Correa isn't in Lindor's league. Lindor is a better overall hitter, better power hitter, better baserunner, better run producer and better fielder and a switch hitter to boot. I think that Bregman is a better SS right now than Correa. Correa drew comparisons to A-Rod when drafted. Candidly, he's come nowhere close to that comparison, which probably was grossly unfair to Correa. Lindor compares much more favorably to A-Rod, at least in numbers, but even his numbers are much lower than A-Rod's. Simply put, A-Rod was the Mike Trout of his generation.

In my opinion, Ground Control should at least countenance the possibility of trading Correa, probably in the off-season. He's obviously a great kid and a good clubhouse guy, and I'd hate to see him go. However, business is business. Oakland and Seattle are relentless. Our margin for error in repeating is miniscule. Luhnow et al. have to consider every realistic possibility to improve the club, which needs production out of LF and a lockdown closer badly.

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« Reply #421 on: August 22, 2018, 09:36:18 am »
You are fucking crazy.

Trade Correa in the offseason in order to improve the chances of repeating the championship this year?  What could possibly be wrong with that logic?
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« Reply #422 on: August 22, 2018, 09:51:21 am »
McCann and Devenski expected to play tonight in CC.

And I think trading Correa is wrong for a multitude of reasons.
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« Reply #423 on: August 22, 2018, 10:00:09 am »
McCann and Devenski expected to play tonight in CC.

And I think trading Correa is wrong for a multitude of reasons.

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« Reply #424 on: August 22, 2018, 10:03:18 am »
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« Reply #425 on: August 22, 2018, 10:11:20 am »
Total insanity.

And even if you thought you could build a stronger roster without him, trading him after this season would be selling low in the worst possible way.

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« Reply #426 on: August 22, 2018, 10:19:43 am »
And even if you thought you could build a stronger roster without him, trading him after this season would be selling low in the worst possible way.

I have paid my last attention to his posts. He is an Indians fan now, at least to me.
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« Reply #427 on: August 22, 2018, 10:26:30 am »
Sigh. We have two big league SSs. You think that it's "fucking stupid" to consider trading one to get help at some other spots? Really. Alright, let me ask you this, smart guy: would you trade Correa or Bregman if it made sense to move either one? If forced to move one, I'd trade Correa and keep Bregman.  I'm not proposing some insane move a la Tod the Bod. I wouldn't just trade Correa willy nilly. I trust Luhnow to get value for him if a deal made sense. I merely suggested that it was worthy of consideration.

Frankly, your quick and dirty slash line comparison is incomplete to say the very least because it doesn't show Lindor's true value. In fact, it's fucking stupid to use your parlance. Lindor has already scored 103 runs out of the leadoff spot, and he's on pace to drive in more than 100 runs and steal about 25 bags while hitting 35 homers. Those are All-Star numbers. Monster numbers. Almost A-Rod numbers. Lindor hit 33 dingers last year. Correa tops out at 24 long balls and hasn't driven in 100 (did hit 96) while hitting out of the clean up spot.  For you stat geeks, Lindor also has a higher career WAR than Correa. A wash, you say? The numbers say otherwise.

James Harden? WTF I'm not suggesting that we trade Correa because he's not the best SS in baseball. I'm not even suggesting thatt we absolutely move Correa. I merely said that the front office should be open to the possibility of trading him if it made sense and improved the club.
The thing is, I dont have to move either one right now. So I wouldn't move either. No matter what package you got for Correa, you are taking a huge risk. Whose gonna play 3rd now? There's a pretty real chance none of the prospects work out. Remember future ace Jared cosart and cleanup man Jon singleton? Yes I realize those guys were not brought in by luhnow. What about mark Appel? My point is that why take the risk? You know that at the very least you have an average if slightly below average defensive SS who is well above average and most of the time all star offensively. If push comes to shove one day, you can swap Correa and bregman for each other.

If your point is to trade him because he has value, why stop there? Trade Springer, McCullers, cole has had a couple bad starts so let's move him before his value drops.


And why bring up runs scored? Of course a leadoff hitter is going to score more runs than a cleanup hitter. Correa would have had 30+ homers last year if he was healthy so "topping out at 24" isn't fair. Yes Lindor has more speed and will steal more bags but we dont need steals from Correa. I'm not arguing that Correa is better than Lindor but you are selling Correa way short for what has been offensively.

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« Reply #428 on: August 22, 2018, 10:38:09 am »
you can swap Correa and bregman for each other.

I bet they've thought about this. Seems to me 3rd would be much less demanding on Correa's back and Bregman appears he could handle SS well. I wonder if CC's ego would make it inconceivable though. Plus it would hurt his value on the FA market when that comes.

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« Reply #429 on: August 22, 2018, 10:52:49 am »
Total insanity.

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« Reply #430 on: August 22, 2018, 11:20:20 am »
you can swap Correa and bregman for each other.

I bet they've thought about this. Seems to me 3rd would be much less demanding on Correa's back and Bregman appears he could handle SS well. I wonder if CC's ego would make it inconceivable though. Plus it would hurt his value on the FA market when that comes.

I'm curious of others take on 3rd being less demanding on the back. 

If it is less demanding, from articles written about him, he seems very down to earth and a good clubhouse guy.

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« Reply #431 on: August 22, 2018, 11:29:48 am »
McCann and Devenski expected to play tonight in CC.

And I think trading Correa is wrong for a multitude of reasons.
I agree BG. But I am concerned about his ability to stay healthy and in the lineup. I don’t agree with the other posters but I see the point they are trying to make.


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« Reply #432 on: August 22, 2018, 11:34:38 am »
I agree BG. But I am concerned about his ability to stay healthy and in the lineup. I don’t agree with the other posters but I see the point they are trying to make.


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« Reply #433 on: August 22, 2018, 11:41:45 am »
I bet Springer has missed more games with injury than Correa.
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« Reply #434 on: August 22, 2018, 12:08:00 pm »
2018 games played
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« Reply #435 on: August 22, 2018, 12:42:15 pm »
A Correa trade proposal turns out to be the deciding factor in a consensus sway regarding Hap's relative sanity. Intriguing.
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« Reply #436 on: August 22, 2018, 01:16:53 pm »
If they trade Correa my reaction will make Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction look calm and measured.



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« Reply #437 on: August 22, 2018, 01:53:09 pm »
A Correa trade proposal turns out to be the deciding factor in a consensus sway regarding Hap's relative sanity. Intriguing.

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« Reply #438 on: August 22, 2018, 02:08:48 pm »
My conclusion is related to baseball only.

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« Reply #439 on: August 22, 2018, 03:23:13 pm »
Wow, folks! Lighten up, for crying out loud. I don't want to trade Correa either. And the last time I checked, I am still sane, at least most of the time any way. I merely raised the possibility that the club might be well served by considering what would be a blockbuster trade.
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« Reply #440 on: August 22, 2018, 03:36:01 pm »
Wow, folks! Lighten up, for crying out loud. I don't want to trade Correa either. And the last time I checked, I am still sane, at least most of the time any way. I merely raised the possibility that the club might be well served by considering what would be a blockbuster trade.

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You think that it's "fucking stupid" to consider trading one to get help at some other spots? Really. Alright, let me ask you this, smart guy: would you trade Correa or Bregman if it made sense to move either one? If forced to move one, I'd trade Correa and keep Bregman.  I'm not proposing some insane move a la Tod the Bod. I wouldn't just trade Correa willy nilly. I trust Luhnow to get value for him if a deal made sense. I merely suggested that it was worthy of consideration.

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I'm not even suggesting thatt we absolutely move Correa. I merely said that the front office should be open to the possibility of trading him if it made sense and improved the club.

You're right though. You never said you want to trade him.



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« Reply #441 on: August 22, 2018, 04:00:47 pm »
You're right though. You never said you want to trade him.

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« Reply #443 on: August 24, 2018, 11:05:34 pm »
From CC Caller:

[Manager Omar] Lopez said catcher Brian McCann, who is coming back from knee surgery, looks good and is likely to catch again during Sunday’s game against San Antonio. “He feels strong and the most important thing for him right now is he wants to get more at-bats to make some adjustments and feel comfortable,” Lopez said. “The knee is perfectly fine.”

Lopez said pitcher Chris Devenski could pitch at least one more time with the Hooks and that outing will likely come on Monday during the final game of the recent seven-game homestand.

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« Reply #444 on: August 24, 2018, 11:37:23 pm »
And with the Grizzlies tonight, Marisnick went 2-4 with a double and a blast. Also struck out twice.

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« Reply #445 on: August 26, 2018, 11:32:26 am »
So who gets sent down when Marisnick returns, Kemp or White?
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« Reply #446 on: August 26, 2018, 11:33:55 am »
Nevermind, forgot rosters are expanding in a couple of days.  But if they weren’t it’d be an interesting call
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« Reply #447 on: August 26, 2018, 11:57:43 am »
I doubt he’d return at the expense of either of those.

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« Reply #448 on: August 26, 2018, 02:47:55 pm »
Luhnow says on pregame that the goal is to get LMJ back ready for a postseason relief role.


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« Reply #449 on: August 26, 2018, 07:24:41 pm »
McCann homered and Devo gave up one on the second pitch.
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« Reply #450 on: August 26, 2018, 07:59:03 pm »
McCann homered and Devo gave up one on the second pitch.

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« Reply #451 on: August 26, 2018, 08:29:02 pm »
And a hit against the shift. 

Devo still looked like he has some discomfort.
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« Reply #452 on: August 26, 2018, 08:29:32 pm »
And a hit against the shift. 

Devo still looked like he has some discomfort.

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« Reply #453 on: August 28, 2018, 08:34:29 am »
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« Reply #454 on: August 29, 2018, 12:10:09 pm »
DL for CFM with right shoulder discomfort. Hope is he'll miss just one start. Devenski activated.

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« Reply #455 on: August 29, 2018, 12:19:03 pm »
DL for CFM with right shoulder discomfort. Hope is he'll miss just one start. Devenski activated.

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« Reply #456 on: August 29, 2018, 12:27:56 pm »
Devenski? I would have assumed a starter.  Are they going to do an all-pen game on Sunday?

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« Reply #457 on: August 29, 2018, 12:48:06 pm »
DL for CFM with right shoulder discomfort. Hope is he'll miss just one start. Devenski activated.

Would have been nice to know before the game last night.
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« Reply #458 on: August 29, 2018, 12:52:44 pm »
Would have been nice to know before the game last night.
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« Reply #459 on: August 29, 2018, 01:05:01 pm »
Devenski? I would have assumed a starter.  Are they going to do an all-pen game on Sunday?

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« Reply #460 on: August 29, 2018, 08:40:24 pm »
Not an Astro ache and pain, but it concerns the Astros given they are playing the Angels next.  Albert Pujols had knee surgery and is done for the season. 

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« Reply #461 on: August 29, 2018, 08:49:32 pm »
Not an Astro ache and pain, but it concerns the Astros given they are playing the Angels next.  Albert Pujols had knee surgery and is done for the season. 

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« Reply #462 on: August 30, 2018, 05:28:35 pm »
Devenski? I would have assumed a starter.  Are they going to do an all-pen game on Sunday?

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Brian McCann will catch for the Astros on Saturday, the day he’s activated from the DL. It’s still uncertain which pitcher will start for the Astros that day. It could be a starter from Triple A or a bullpen game.


If they go the Fresno route, Trent Thornton is the Grizz scheduled starter tomorrow and Josh James is the scheduled starter for Saturday. Either would need to be added to the 40-man roster if called up. Given that both are Rule 5 eligible this winter, that may simply be accelerating a process that would otherwise occur anyway.

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« Reply #463 on: August 30, 2018, 05:39:28 pm »
Now that he's returned, apparently the plan for Devenski going forward is to be used less overall and more often against LHH.

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« Reply #464 on: August 30, 2018, 06:20:14 pm »
Not an Astro ache and pain, but it concerns the Astros given they are playing the Angels next.  Albert Pujols had knee surgery and is done for the season.
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« Reply #465 on: August 30, 2018, 06:31:03 pm »
He should retire. To continue to play at such a poor level is tarnishing his otherwise fabulous career.

His contract is heavily backloaded (he made well below market his first couple years in LA), so retiring now would cost him $87 million. The Angels can release him or try to work out a restructuring of his contract if they decide he's a waste of a roster spot.

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« Reply #466 on: August 31, 2018, 04:04:43 pm »

If they go the Fresno route, Trent Thornton is the Grizz scheduled starter tomorrow and Josh James is the scheduled starter for Saturday. Either would need to be added to the 40-man roster if called up. Given that both are Rule 5 eligible this winter, that may simply be accelerating a process that would otherwise occur anyway.

It's James.

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« Reply #467 on: August 31, 2018, 04:09:48 pm »
Looking forward to this. I see Ohtani is also going that night.

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« Reply #468 on: August 31, 2018, 04:17:34 pm »
It's James.
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« Reply #469 on: August 31, 2018, 04:19:23 pm »
Interested to see what Deetz can do. I am guessing that he will get called up tomorrow or soon after.
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« Reply #470 on: September 01, 2018, 03:49:17 pm »
In addition to the McCann activation, Marisnick also taken off DL and Cionel Perez recalled.

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« Reply #471 on: September 05, 2018, 05:05:14 pm »
New UCL damage found--TJS recommended for Ohtani.

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« Reply #472 on: September 05, 2018, 05:13:34 pm »
New UCL damage found--TJS recommended for Ohtani.

During Springer’s miked up segment, he said about Ohtani “He’s lost his velo.”

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« Reply #473 on: September 05, 2018, 05:18:38 pm »
During Springer’s miked up segment, he said about Ohtani “He’s lost his velo.”

LAA fucked this up, imo.

You mean the franchise that pissed away the prime of a generational player fucked up?

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« Reply #474 on: September 05, 2018, 05:24:49 pm »
New UCL damage found--TJS recommended for Ohtani.

That really sucks.  Get him healthy and let him hit full-time.
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« Reply #475 on: September 05, 2018, 05:58:10 pm »
That really sucks.  Get him healthy and let him hit full-time.

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« Reply #476 on: September 05, 2018, 06:14:51 pm »
You mean the franchise that pissed away the prime of a generational player fucked up?

Go figure. 
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« Reply #477 on: September 05, 2018, 06:17:15 pm »
Scioscia and his buffet physique have been around way too long. 
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« Reply #478 on: September 05, 2018, 06:21:52 pm »
He is going to continue as DH. If I were his agent, I’d be saying “Uh, no.”

Yeah, what's the point?  They're out of playoff contention.  Shut him down.

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« Reply #479 on: September 05, 2018, 06:25:53 pm »
LAA fucked this up, imo.


After LA signed him, reports came out that his UCL was already damaged and that he'd had platelet-rich plasma injections a couple months before signing to try to heal it. Garrett Richards did the same thing in 2016 and 2017, only to get hurt again and finally have TJS this season.

If LA's medical staff is less inclined toward surgery than other teams', it makes sense that Ohtani would go there hoping to avoid TJS altogether. Other team docs might've taken a look at his medicals last offseason and recommended immediate surgery.

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« Reply #480 on: September 06, 2018, 09:56:53 am »
Scioscia and his buffet physique have been around way too long.

I think their problems are way above Scioscia level. Bad decisions on contracts for one. Pujols is rather obvious.

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« Reply #481 on: September 06, 2018, 12:01:26 pm »
I think their problems are way above Scioscia level. Bad decisions on contracts for one. Pujols is rather obvious.

Arte Moreno was head cheerleader of the effort to sign both Pujols and Josh Hamilton, and reportedly backed Scioscia during his power struggle with GM Jerry Dipoto in 2015.

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« Reply #482 on: September 06, 2018, 04:48:53 pm »
He is going to continue as DH. If I were his agent, I’d be saying “Uh, no.”

Is 162ish of gold glove RF and a hitter in front/behind Trout worth the 20 starts you'll get out of him?  Or the combo of both (since he doesn't play the day before/after starts)?

I really don't know, great problem to have.
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« Reply #483 on: September 06, 2018, 05:30:50 pm »
Is 162ish of gold glove RF and a hitter in front/behind Trout worth the 20 starts you'll get out of him?  Or the combo of both (since he doesn't play the day before/after starts)?

I really don't know, great problem to have.

Is that the scouting report on Ohtani outfield-wise?

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« Reply #484 on: September 06, 2018, 06:03:34 pm »
Is that the scouting report on Ohtani outfield-wise?

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« Reply #485 on: September 06, 2018, 07:34:41 pm »
Is 162ish of gold glove RF and a hitter in front/behind Trout worth the 20 starts you'll get out of him?  Or the combo of both (since he doesn't play the day before/after starts)?

I really don't know, great problem to have.

This season they got neither.

They should stop trying to write the script for a movie, plant his ass in the lineup and watch him dominate, because whatever equation they used to calculate his worth as a dual threat, you can multiply that by zero during his recovery from TJS.

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« Reply #486 on: September 06, 2018, 10:13:05 pm »
Can you play right field while needing TJS at the same time?

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« Reply #487 on: September 06, 2018, 10:23:01 pm »
Can you play right field while needing TJS at the same time?

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Now when I say "Hello Mr. Thompson" and stomp on your foot, you smile and nod.

I think he’s talking to you...

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« Reply #494 on: September 13, 2018, 10:59:48 pm »
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« Reply #495 on: September 14, 2018, 12:48:37 am »
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« Reply #497 on: September 15, 2018, 10:02:49 am »
Springer day-to-day after jamming his shoulder on that 8th inning diving attempt last night. At least they didn't they didn't use the "discomfort" word.

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« Reply #498 on: September 15, 2018, 03:10:32 pm »
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« Reply #499 on: September 16, 2018, 08:06:31 am »
sounds good, but will it be enough to get back by the end of the season
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