Verlander very nicely tells Christopher Russo...

[Texifornia]

...to go fuck himself.
http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2018/02/13/266388400/justin-verlanders-fire-response-to-a-tweet-proves-you-shouldnt-sleep-on-the-astros

[Fredia]

well said.. nice to know he is a fully vetted vented and vendetta type Astro

[juliogotay]

I would just as soon these people pick the Yankees to win the AL.  Makes it sweeter to beat them.

[jbm]

Fuck the Yankees.

I'm predicting that they will very much miss Girardi.  One assumption behind the Yankee optimism is that Boone will be equal or better than Girardi.  We'll see. 

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

I literally love Verlander but I'm at a loss why anyone would give a fuck what Russo thinks.

[Mr. Happy]

Fuck the Yankees.

I'm predicting that they will very much miss Girardi.  One assumption behind the Yankee optimism is that Boone will be equal or better than Girardi.  We'll see.

I agree with you on both scores. Girardi was one of the top five skippers in the game.

[Reuben]

I agree with you on both scores. Girardi was one of the top five skippers in the game.

I wouldn't go that far, but I thought he was the perfect manager for the Yankees - he's their kind of asshole.

[Mr. Happy]

I wouldn't go that far, but I thought he was the perfect manager for the Yankees - he's their kind of asshole.

He put together a starting rotation over the last two or three seasons from a lot of question marks. I think that Bochy is the best in the game. Hinch is climbing quickly.

[chuck]

Girardi is a good manager, maybe a really good one. It's insane that the Yankees kicked him to the curb.

The Dodgers would have won the series if Girardi had been managing them. Of course, they would have won the series if Hinch had been managing them.

[doyce7]

Girardi is a good manager, maybe a really good one. It's insane that the Yankees kicked him to the curb.

The Dodgers would have won the series if Girardi had been managing them. Of course, they would have won the series if Hinch had been managing them.

Not sure I've ever seen someone over manage quite like Roberts did. At times it seemed like he was making moves for the sake of making moves

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[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Not sure I've ever seen someone over manage quite like Roberts did. At times it seemed like he was making moves for the sake of making moves

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I thought Roberts managed afraid.

[NeilT]

I thought Roberts managed afraid.

Programmed, which may be the same thing.

[HudsonHawk]

I thought Roberts managed afraid.

I wouldn't say he managed afraid, but he definitely managed by the book he'd established throughout the season.  He saw no reason why the strategy wouldn't work in the World Series.  Hinch, on the other hand, was forced to throw the book out the window and manage on the fly, and did so brilliantly. 

[JimR]

Not sure I've ever seen someone over manage quite like Roberts did. At times it seemed like he was making moves for the sake of making moves

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He managed exactly the same way he won 104 games. HH nailed it. I do not agree the Dodgers were the superior team or the Astros won only because Roberts managed poorly.

[Ty in Tampa]

He managed exactly the same way he won 104 games. HH nailed it. I do not agree the Dodgers were the superior team or the Astros won only because Roberts managed poorly.

But it's clear that Roberts was out-managed by Hinch.

[doyce7]

He managed exactly the same way he won 104 games. HH nailed it. I do not agree the Dodgers were the superior team or the Astros won only because Roberts managed poorly.

I'm not saying the Dodgers were the better team or that the Astros won because of Roberts. Just that Roberts didn't really help his cause.

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[Fredia]

i know its like he had to connect 1 to number 2 then draw on to number 3 and like in elementary when you connected all the numbers you had a nice picture. this case it turned out to be of the Astros world Series victory.

[Bench]

But it's clear that Roberts was out-managed by Hinch.

Hinch was a lot more creative out of necessity.  I don't think that translates exactly into out-managing.  It's not Roberts' fault that Marwin hit a home run off of  an 0-2 cutter from Jansen, which is something that pretty much never happens.  You can criticize Roberts for running through his bullpen in Game 2 before that, and it's fair to say that  he left Darvish in for one batter too long in Game 7, but I'm sure you could also pick a couple of moves or non-moves by Hinch that could be criticized in hindsight if the outcome were different (or Giles in Game 4).  I think Roberts did his thing which was brilliant all year, and if a couple of things out of his control broke a different way he'd be a World Series champion.

[das]

...to go fuck himself.
http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2018/02/13/266388400/justin-verlanders-fire-response-to-a-tweet-proves-you-shouldnt-sleep-on-the-astros

3 seconds of that bloviating idiots accent is all you need to know to understand his "perspective".

[juliogotay]

3 seconds of that bloviating idiots accent is all you need to know to understand his "perspective".

Well said.

[Ty in Tampa]

Hinch was a lot more creative out of necessity.  I don't think that translates exactly into out-managing.  It's not Roberts' fault that Marwin hit a home run off of  an 0-2 cutter from Jansen, which is something that pretty much never happens.  You can criticize Roberts for running through his bullpen in Game 2 before that, and it's fair to say that  he left Darvish in for one batter too long in Game 7, but I'm sure you could also pick a couple of moves or non-moves by Hinch that could be criticized in hindsight if the outcome were different (or Giles in Game 4).  I think Roberts did his thing which was brilliant all year, and if a couple of things out of his control broke a different way he'd be a World Series champion.

All of that is true, yet Roberts stuck to his way without the creativity that Hinch used, despite the necessity in key situations. Out-managed may not be the correct term but certainly Hinch's creativity shone while Robert's steadfastness cost him.

[Bench]

All of that is true, yet Roberts stuck to his way without the creativity that Hinch used, despite the necessity in key situations. Out-managed may not be the correct term but certainly Hinch's creativity shone while Robert's steadfastness cost him.

That's a fair statement.  Hinch was a fucking genius that whole series. 

[NeilT]

That's a fair statement.  Hinch was a fucking genius that whole series.

If they'd won game 2, Roberts would have looked brilliant for sticking to his plan. Without Marwin's home run, Hinch wouldn't have looked much like a genius.  There was a lot of execution and failed execution on both sides.

[Ty in Tampa]

If they'd won game 2, Roberts would have looked brilliant for sticking to his plan. Without Marwin's home run, Hinch wouldn't have looked much like a genius.  There was a lot of execution and failed execution on both sides.

And that's how much impact managing really has on the game.

[BlownRanger]

3 seconds of that bloviating idiots accent is all you need to know to understand his "perspective".

I've never had much patience with people who think that shouting adds credence to their argument.  Russo is Exhibit A.

[Bench]

If they'd won game 2, Roberts would have looked brilliant for sticking to his plan. Without Marwin's home run, Hinch wouldn't have looked much like a genius.  There was a lot of execution and failed execution on both sides.

That was pretty much exactly how Game 6 went.  Marwin's incredibly unlikely home run changed the course of history and is in my opinion the most significant moment in franchise history.

[SoonerJim]

That was pretty much exactly how Game 6 went.  Marwin's incredibly unlikely home run changed the course of history and is in my opinion the most significant moment in franchise history.

Agree, it was equivalent to pulling back the curtain in "The Wizard of Oz". LA was invincible until that moment

[Reuben]

That was pretty much exactly how Game 6 went.  Marwin's incredibly unlikely home run changed the course of history and is in my opinion the most significant moment in franchise history.

Certainly the most significant home run.

[JimR]

Certainly the most significant home run.

The most significant swing of the bat.

[Astros Fan in Big D]

I've never had much patience with people who think that shouting adds credence to their argument.  Russo is Exhibit A.

Stephen A Smith just threw a hissy fit after reading that.