Realmuto

[JimR]

Bleacher report says trade talks are ongoing. Marlins want Tucker. Of course they do.

[MusicMan]

Bleacher report says trade talks are ongoing. Marlins want Tucker. Of course they do.

I want Jennifer Anniston, but that’s about as realistic.


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[TerryPuhl21]

Looks like things are starting to heat up. Since 2016 he only trails Posey and Sanchez in fWAR. He would lock down that position for the next 3-4 years for sure.

On the other hand, if they really want to make a move at catcher, seems like we could get Lucroy and hold on to Tucker to boot. Would be more expensive financially but it upgrades the dish and allows you to hold on to Tucker.

Gonna be an interesting next couple of days I think....


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[Sambito Redux]

Or we could wait until things really implode with the Royals and target Salvador Perez in a year or two.  No way I try to get Realmuto for Tucker as a backup catcher (eye on the future type trade).  But then again, Luhnow is a warlock!

[TerryPuhl21]

Or we could wait until things really implode with the Royals and target Salvador Perez in a year or two.  No way I try to get Realmuto for Tucker as a backup catcher (eye on the future type trade).  But then again, Luhnow is a warlock!

If this trade were made, I’m not so sure that Realmuto would be a backup. There is no doubt that McCann brings intangibles to the table (ala Beltran last year) that Realmuto can’t match. But in almost every other facet of the game, offensively and defensively, Realmuto is an upgrade. Realmuto definitely would start against lefties and I could see him getting starts against some righties with McCann catching specific pitchers. McCann could also DH against righties.


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[VirtualBob]

If this trade were made, I’m not so sure that Realmuto would be a backup. There is no doubt that McCann brings intangibles to the table (ala Beltran last year) that Realmuto can’t match. But in almost every other facet of the game, offensively and defensively, Realmuto is an upgrade. Realmuto definitely would start against lefties and I could see him getting starts against some righties with McCann catching specific pitchers. McCann could also DH against righties.


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Yep. Stassi to Fresno and/or Gattis on the trade block.

[Jacksonian]

Yep. Stassi to Fresno and/or Gattis on the trade block.

May be no big deal but with Stassi out of options he’d either be traded or outrighted and exposed to waivers if sent down.

[toddthebod]

Here is my proposal:

Yordan Alvarez, Rogelio Armenteros, AJ Reed, and Brian McCann

For Realmuto and Prado

The deal gets the Marlins two very good Cuban prospects who they can market to the Cuban community and they get out of Prado’s contract.  McCann goes to the Marlins to offset salary for the 18 season, but Marlins save a lot in 19.

The Astros get their catcher for the next three years and maybe Prado is a useful piece, particularly if they lose Marwin to free agency at the end of the 18 season.

[Sambito Redux]

Here is my proposal:

Yordan Alvarez, Rogelio Armenteros, AJ Reed, and Brian McCann

For Realmuto and Prado

The deal gets the Marlins two very good Cuban prospects who they can market to the Cuban community and they get out of Prado’s contract.  McCann goes to the Marlins to offset salary for the 18 season, but Marlins save a lot in 19.

The Astros get their catcher for the next three years and maybe Prado is a useful piece, particularly if they lose Marwin to free agency at the end of the 18 season.

I really like McCann.  Would be surprised to see him traded, as I am sure Verlander and Keuchel would.

[TerryPuhl21]

I really like McCann.  Would be surprised to see him traded, as I am sure Verlander and Keuchel would.

I would agree about McCann. His leadership is needed not only to help guide the pitchers, but also to help with the other catchers.


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[JimR]

Here is my proposal:

Yordan Alvarez, Rogelio Armenteros, AJ Reed, and Brian McCann

For Realmuto and Prado

The deal gets the Marlins two very good Cuban prospects who they can market to the Cuban community and they get out of Prado’s contract.  McCann goes to the Marlins to offset salary for the 18 season, but Marlins save a lot in 19.

The Astros get their catcher for the next three years and maybe Prado is a useful piece, particularly if they lose Marwin to free agency at the end of the 18 season.

No. McCann goes nowhere. That’s what I get for posting a trade rumor. Lesson learned.

[das]

No. McCann goes nowhere.

...especially with Cole coming in. McCann is critical to helping him learn the analytics-based Astros way of pitching.

[doyce7]

I don't get why anyone would want to trade McCann, the guy is a leader who handled the pitching staff masterfully while also coming up with some huge ABs. This team doesn't win the world series without Brian McCann, and he's not THAT old yet.

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[Jacksonian]

No. McCann goes nowhere. That’s what I get for posting a trade rumor. Lesson learned.

I don’t see catcher as a need anyway.  Offensively I’m more concerned about left field and DH.

[Mr. Happy]

I don’t see catcher as a need anyway.  Offensively I’m more concerned about left field and DH.

+1

[toddthebod]

I'm not really concerned about LF and DH.  Between Fisher, Marwin, and Marisnick, the outfield is fine.  And Gattis at DH is fine.  When the rest of the Astros lineup is so potent (and the rotation so stacked), the Astros can even withstand average performances at these positions.

Catcher might not be a need this season (notwithstanding that McCann can't throw out anyone), but it is certainly a need going in 19 and going forward. 

[JimR]

I'm not really concerned about LF and DH.  Between Fisher, Marwin, and Marisnick, the outfield is fine.  And Gattis at DH is fine.  When the rest of the Astros lineup is so potent (and the rotation so stacked), the Astros can even withstand average performances at these positions.

Catcher might not be a need this season (notwithstanding that McCann can't throw out anyone), but it is certainly a need going in 19 and going forward.

Marwin is a utility player, not the LFer. Marisnick is the 4OF. If you want to pin your hopes on Fisher, go for it.

Yeah, boy. McCann’s inability to throw out runners crippled the Astros last year. How many SBs did opponents get in the postseason? You have been on a campaign to dump McCann since the final out of the WS. No. He was the heart and soul of the team, as many of his teammates said. There are more important attributes than %of runners caught stealing.

[toddthebod]

I've been on a campaign to dump McCann?  Okay.  I don't think I've been.  How many posts have I done about McCann? 

But I don't feel any particularly need to keep McCann.  It's not like he's a long-time Astros player.  His defense was okay at best last season.  He's not a great hitter.  And he's gone after this year anyway.  The fact that the Astros apparently have been attempting to trade for Realmuto proves that the Astros feel the same way about McCann. 

To trade for Realmuto and to keep McCann makes absolutely no sense.  Neither is a backup catcher.  And McCann doesn't hit well enough for DH. 

So if the Astros can get a better catcher and trade McCann -- the team should go for it. 

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

His name is McCann not McConger

[Navin R Johnson]

While people are discussing trading McCann, it might be helpful to note he has a full no-trade clause in his contract.

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/houston-astros/brian-mccann-29/

The chances to him waiving that, to go to Miami are slim to none.   Now if you could work out a 3 team trade where he ended up with the Braves, sure, he has stated he hopes to end his career there.

[JimR]

While people are discussing trading McCann, it might be helpful to note he has a full no-trade clause in his contract.

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/houston-astros/brian-mccann-29/

The chances to him waiving that, to go to Miami are slim to none.   Now if you could work out a 3 team trade where he ended up with the Braves, sure, he has stated he hopes to end his career there.

Don’t worry. He will propose a three or four team trade be the end of the day.

“Thanks for all you did for the team last year, Brian, when we needed veterans leadership, but goodbye. We traded you.” Disgusting.

ETA: this team has so much firepower McCann does not have to be a younger version of himself. The intangibles he brings and the confidence the pitchers have in him far outweigh whatever he may have lost to age.

[HudsonHawk]

I'm not really concerned about LF and DH.  Between Fisher, Marwin, and Marisnick, the outfield is fine.  And Gattis at DH is fine.  When the rest of the Astros lineup is so potent (and the rotation so stacked), the Astros can even withstand average performances at these positions.

What on earth makes you think Marisnick and Fisher can top out at average production in LF, let alone that it's the floor for them?

[Waldo]

The fact that the Astros apparently have been attempting to trade for Realmuto proves that the Astros feel the same way about McCann. 

I think it says less about what they think of McCann and more about what they think of Gattis/Stassi.

[JimR]

I think it says less about what they think of McCann and more about what they think of Gattis/Stassi.

Yep.

[TerryPuhl21]

I think it says less about what they think of McCann and more about what they think of Gattis/Stassi.

Agree, and it may also speak to what they think of Stubbs and when he will be ready.


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[David in Jackson]

Here is my proposal:

Yordan Alvarez, Rogelio Armenteros, AJ Reed, and Brian McCann

For Realmuto and Prado

The deal gets the Marlins two very good Cuban prospects who they can market to the Cuban community and they get out of Prado’s contract.  McCann goes to the Marlins to offset salary for the 18 season, but Marlins save a lot in 19.

The Astros get their catcher for the next three years and maybe Prado is a useful piece, particularly if they lose Marwin to free agency at the end of the 18 season.

Prado is one of my favorite players (I saw him play regularly in AA) but I fear he may be done.

[Sambito Redux]

Prado is one of my favorite players (I saw him play regularly in AA) but I fear he may be done.

Devilish Prado

[NeilT]

Devilish Prado

I didn't think we were supposed to discuss hotels or the Prado.

[Texifornia]

I didn't think we were supposed to discuss hotels or the Prado.

Or tires.

[Reuben]

I didn't think we were supposed to discuss hotels or the Prado.

The Prado is great, but if you're in Madrid you really should also go to the Reina Sofia, and see Guernica.

[chuck]

The Prado is great, but if you're in Madrid you really should also go to the Reina Sofia, and see Guernica.

We covered all this, at some length, in the appropriate area of this site.

[Reuben]

We covered all this, at some length, in the appropriate area of this site.

Ah. I forget that there's other areas.

Hey, does anyone want to talk about some minor league prospects...?

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Article addressing the Astros and Realmuto.