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September call ups
« on: September 02, 2017, 12:02:06 pm »
I see Tony Kemp in the lineup today. Tyler White has also been recalled along with Guduan.


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Re: September call ups
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2017, 12:21:19 pm »
I see Tony Kemp in the lineup today.

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2017, 04:06:04 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2017, 04:42:29 pm »
Tony Kemp doesn't think much of your assessment.

I have pretty long history of guys making my assessments look bad.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2017, 04:44:02 pm »
I have pretty long history of guys making my assessments look bad.

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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2017, 05:04:38 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2017, 05:22:55 pm »
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2017, 09:49:00 pm »
Tyler White has also been recalled along with Guduan.

White should have never been sent down. 


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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2017, 11:10:13 pm »
White should have never been sent down.

I spent half the game today wondering what the team might have looked like throughout August with White rather than Davis.
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2017, 12:46:31 pm »
I spent half the game today wondering what the team might have looked like throughout August with White rather than Davis.

Every time Davis came to bat I wondered the same thing as well.

I know Davis was crushing AA, but the jump to the majors seemed unnecessary.  The Astros didn't particularly need a third-baseman -- Marwin and Gouriel could have played third while Bregman was at shortstop.  And White is a much more versatile player than Davis.   
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2017, 12:55:50 pm »
Every time Davis came to bat I wondered the same thing as well.

I know Davis was crushing AA, but the jump to the majors seemed unnecessary.  The Astros didn't particularly need a third-baseman -- Marwin and Gouriel could have played third while Bregman was at shortstop.  And White is a much more versatile player than Davis.

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2017, 01:08:23 pm »
White had 3 homers and 9 rbis in 9 games when they sent him down. Don't know if White is a long term major leaguer, but when he is hot, he is really hot.
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2017, 01:11:04 pm »
Meanwhile it was reported by Heyman, I think, that Moran was to be a part of the Britton deal. That would have been good for him and the Astros. I think he is ready to play in the MLs.

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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2017, 01:30:04 pm »
Meanwhile it was reported by Heyman, I think, that Moran was to be a part of the Britton deal. That would have been good for him and the Astros. I think he is ready to play in the MLs.

Who else has reported to be in that deal?
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2017, 01:32:29 pm »
White had 3 homers and 9 rbis in 9 games when they sent him down. Don't know if White is a long term major leaguer, but when he is hot, he is really hot.

Davis has 3 homers, and one was a very important one. . Dunno RBIs. Neither is a very good fielder at 3B, but I think Davis is better.

Luhnow made it clear they wanted to see what Davis could do.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2017, 01:39:08 pm »
Davis has 3 homers, and one was a very important one. . Dunno RBIs. Neither is a very good fielder at 3B, but I think Davis is better.

Luhnow made it clear they wanted to see what Davis could do.

I think Davis will be a productive hitter in the big leagues, but he is not an every day third baseman.  He is a 1B/DH type.  I'm sure he can play 1B just fine, though I'd like to see Gurriel keep that nailed down for the next couple of seasons. 
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2017, 01:48:13 pm »
I think Davis will be a productive hitter in the big leagues, but he is not an every day third baseman.  He is a 1B/DH type.  I'm sure he can play 1B just fine, though I'd like to see Gurriel keep that nailed down for the next couple of seasons.

Agreed. Gurriel is already very good there. White is much more versatile than Davis. Interesting how Reed has disappeared.
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2017, 02:37:07 pm »
Agreed. Gurriel is already very good there. White is much more versatile than Davis. Interesting how Reed has disappeared.

Reed sure failed to impress in two different auditions.  He showed virtually zero promise.  He and Singleton both fizzled big time. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2017, 02:55:35 pm »
If Reed would drop 50 pounds, it might make a big difference. Its difficult to compete on par with the best players in the world carrying around an enormous gut and an enormous butt.
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2017, 03:54:05 pm »
If Reed would drop 50 pounds, it might make a big difference. Its difficult to compete on par with the best players in the world carrying around an enormous gut and an enormous butt.

In 126 games at AAA this year Reed has 33 HRs and 100 RBIs. He has an .857 OPS.  I wouldn't write him off yet although his future may be elsewhere.

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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2017, 03:56:54 pm »
Reed sure failed to impress in two different auditions.  He showed virtually zero promise.  He and Singleton both fizzled big time.
I wonder if the Astros would ever consider putting Reed back on the mound. If memory serves he was a pretty dominate pitcher in college. Wasn't he Kentucky's ace?? At any rate, given how valuable left handed pitchers are I think they should at least consider it. I'm not giving up on him at first base yet, but if he comes up again and can't hit major league pitching, I'd trade him or consider the mover back to pitcher.


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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2017, 04:08:35 pm »
Who else has reported to be in that deal?

No names provided but Moran was the headliner. The injury he sustained with the foul tip was apparently one of the medical concerns voiced by Baltimore.

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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2017, 04:08:38 pm »
In 126 games at AAA this year Reed has 33 HRs and 100 RBIs. He has an .857 OPS.  I wouldn't write him off yet although his future may be elsewhere.

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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2017, 04:20:04 pm »
Strange he was not called up.

With those numbers, no kidding. 100 RBI's in 126 games. Yowzers.
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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2017, 04:27:24 pm »
With those numbers, no kidding. 100 RBI's in 126 games. Yowzers.

He is still striking out at a very high rate. May not be something he will outgrow.

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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2017, 05:47:04 pm »
Every time Davis came to bat I wondered the same thing as well.

I know Davis was crushing AA, but the jump to the majors seemed unnecessary.
Since August 12 Davis has been the 2nd best hitter on the team.

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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2017, 09:25:50 pm »
Since August 12 Davis has been the 2nd best hitter on the team.

He also came up from AAA, not AA.
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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2017, 10:19:17 pm »
He also came up from AAA, not AA.

He had only been at AAA because Moran got called up so he wasn't there very long.  For all intents and purposes he was a AA call up.
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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2017, 05:43:51 am »
He had only been at AAA because Moran got called up so he wasn't there very long.  For all intents and purposes he was a AA call up.

Sorry. I don't know the rule about how many games are required in AAA before "he was called up from AAA" is accurate.
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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2017, 09:26:02 am »
No names provided but Moran was the headliner. The injury he sustained with the foul tip was apparently one of the medical concerns voiced by Baltimore.

A rival GM was quoted as saying that Houston's problem at the Aug 31 deadline was that Luhnow thought a package with AJ Reed and Colin Moran as the cornerstones was good enough to land the high-end talent that was available.  I take all such quotes with a large grain of salt, but that's what was reported.
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« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2017, 09:45:59 am »
A rival GM was quoted as saying that Houston's problem at the Aug 31 deadline was that Luhnow thought a package with AJ Reed and Colin Moran as the cornerstones was good enough to land the high-end talent that was available.  I take all such quotes with a large grain of salt, but that's what was reported.

If Perez, Rogers and Cameron begets Verlander then Reed and Moran begetting Britton does not seem so outlandish to me.

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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2017, 09:46:27 am »
A rival GM was quoted as saying that Houston's problem at the Aug 31 deadline was that Luhnow thought a package with AJ Reed and Colin Moran as the cornerstones was good enough to land the high-end talent that was available.  I take all such quotes with a large grain of salt, but that's what was reported.
Both those guys could end up being great, unfortunately they both suffer from the stigma of not performing at the MLB level last year.  In addition Reed started out poorly at Fresno this year before really killing it in the second half (he's hit 22 of his home runs since the beginning of July).  If that report is true I understand Luhnow's valuation and the valuation from the other GMs.

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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2017, 09:52:16 am »
If Perez, Rogers and Cameron begets Verlander then Reed and Moran begetting Britton does not seem so outlandish to me.

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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2017, 12:26:33 pm »
I have no strong stake in JD Davis either way, but a couple of interesting notes:

FWIW, Baseball America's "Best Tools" survey had him as the best defensive 3b in the Texas League: ($) http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2017-texas-league-best-tools/#qX3bC8OQPYT85F4q.97

Also:
Davis, first 7 games: .136 (3/22), 2 2B
Davis, last 9 games: .310 (9/29), 2 2B, 3 HR

Small sample size, etc., but the trend is maybe encouraging.
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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2017, 01:21:39 pm »
I have no strong stake in JD Davis either way, but a couple of interesting notes:

FWIW, Baseball America's "Best Tools" survey had him as the best defensive 3b in the Texas League: ($) http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2017-texas-league-best-tools/#qX3bC8OQPYT85F4q.97

Also:
Davis, first 7 games: .136 (3/22), 2 2B
Davis, last 9 games: .310 (9/29), 2 2B, 3 HR

Small sample size, etc., but the trend is maybe encouraging.

He played good defense the last time out and made a couple of outstanding plays.
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