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« on: March 12, 2017, 09:57:12 am »
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2017, 07:27:29 pm »
An additional roster move today was Kevin Chapman, who's currently playing for Team Canada in the WBC, being put on waivers to remove him from the 40-man roster. Chapman of course was out of options.

(Some might feel compelled to mention at this point that Mike Hauschild, left unprotected in the Rule 5 draft, is having a nice spring thus far for the Rangers and remains in contention for a spot in their rotation.)
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2017, 09:50:45 pm »
An additional roster move today was Kevin Chapman, who's currently playing for Team Canada in the WBC, being put on waivers to remove him from the 40-man roster. Chapman of course was out of options.

(Some might feel compelled to mention at this point that Mike Hauschild, left unprotected in the Rule 5 draft, is having a nice spring thus far for the Rangers and remains in contention for a spot in their rotation.)
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2017, 08:09:29 am »
Keep in mind that the Rangers rotation spots 3-5 is a dumpster fire currently


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The comment in the Dallas News today about Hauschild included "Houston must have deep pitching to not protect this guy". The article said he didn't throw a straight pitch, that his ball had great movement to both sides of the plate.

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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2017, 01:50:15 pm »
The comment in the Dallas News today about Hauschild included "Houston must have deep pitching to not protect this guy". The article said he didn't throw a straight pitch, that his ball had great movement to both sides of the plate.

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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2017, 01:53:30 pm »
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Yes but it shows how poor their ML ready depth is in pitching. Now, those guys at the top of the rotation are pretty good.

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2017, 02:23:20 pm »
An additional roster move today was Kevin Chapman, who's currently playing for Team Canada in the WBC, being put on waivers to remove him from the 40-man roster. Chapman of course was out of options.

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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2017, 02:30:47 pm »
An additional roster move today was Kevin Chapman, who's currently playing for Team Canada in the WBC, being put on waivers to remove him from the 40-man roster. Chapman of course was out of options.

(Some might feel compelled to mention at this point that Mike Hauschild, left unprotected in the Rule 5 draft, is having a nice spring thus far for the Rangers and remains in contention for a spot in their rotation.)
But who could have predicted that they would decide to waive Chapman.

Oh wait ... Nevermind.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2017, 03:46:09 pm »
The comment in the Dallas News today about Hauschild included "Houston must have deep pitching to not protect this guy". The article said he didn't throw a straight pitch, that his ball had great movement to both sides of the plate.
I didn't know much about him until they took him but we do have depth there for sure and Hauschild would not likely get this kind of consideration if not for the rehab of Ross and the setback to Cashner. I don't think they can predict who their 4 and 5 will be at all yet.


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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2017, 08:35:21 am »
I saw him pitch a couple of days ago. He did well, but I did not like his motion. He is all arm and very little body as he moves toward the plate to throw.
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2017, 08:47:28 am »
The Astros are in an interesting position now with their 40-man with some talented players being on that bubble where they, barring injury to a starter, won't be on the 25-man and have accomplished about all they need to in the high minors. Reed, Moran, Teo Hernandez, White, Stassi. Brady Rodgers among pitchers. I don't remember a time with so many ML ready guys not being able to make the roster because of numerical limitations. It will be interesting to see how Luhnow manages this.

Edit:  add Kemp to the list.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2017, 09:10:58 am »
The Astros are in an interesting position now with their 40-man with some talented players being on that bubble where they, barring injury to a starter, won't be on the 25-man and have accomplished about all they need to in the high minors. Reed, Moran, Teo Hernandez, White, Stassi. Brady Rodgers among pitchers. I don't remember a time with so many ML ready guys not being able to make the roster because of numerical limitations. It will be interesting to see how Luhnow manages this.

Edit:  add Kemp to the list.

Jumping ahead of my preview, but Stassi is a lock to be waived, barring injury to either catcher.


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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2017, 10:24:58 am »
Jumping ahead of my preview, but Stassi is a lock to be waived, barring injury to either catcher.


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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2017, 11:56:07 am »
So Rodgers, Andy Aplin and lefties Ashur Tolliver and Reymin Guduan were all shipped out this morning.

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2017, 12:25:32 pm »
The Astros are in an interesting position now with their 40-man with some talented players being on that bubble where they, barring injury to a starter, won't be on the 25-man and have accomplished about all they need to in the high minors. Reed, Moran, Teo Hernandez, White, Stassi. Brady Rodgers among pitchers. I don't remember a time with so many ML ready guys not being able to make the roster because of numerical limitations. It will be interesting to see how Luhnow manages this.

Edit:  add Kemp to the list.
I disagree about Moran having nothing left to prove in the minors. He had a bad year last year, and really only has a great 2nd half of 2015 in AA to hang his hat on for post-college achievement. That and two years of killin' it in ST.

And while Teoscar destroyed AAA pitching year, it was a fairly brief stop, so you could argue he needs more seasoning, too.
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2017, 10:48:01 am »
Martes and Laureano farmed out today.

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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2017, 12:10:20 pm »
Kemp, Singleton and Heineman cut today.

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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2017, 05:51:05 pm »
Singleton came up to bat in a televised game the other day and I thought, "who is this tubby guy, who looks kind of like David Ortiz?" It took me a few seconds to recognize him. Not a good sign for a guy trying to salvage his career. Nor are his ST numbers.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2017, 01:11:54 pm »
ICYMI, Reed, White, Moran and Teo all sent to minors camp today.

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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2017, 01:58:34 pm »
And clear a 2nd spot on the 40-man roster (now at 38) by outrighting Max Stassi to Fresno after he cleared waivers.

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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2017, 04:07:16 pm »
ICYMI, Reed, White, Moran and Teo all sent to minors camp today.
So does that leave Preston Tucker as OF#5?  Or is he not on the 40-man anymore?
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2017, 04:13:04 pm »
So does that leave Preston Tucker as OF#5?  Or is he not on the 40-man anymore?

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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2017, 04:25:52 pm »
ICYMI, Reed, White, Moran and Teo all sent to minors camp today.

 I wonder if Fresno would win more games this year at the MLB level than the three 100 loss  Astros  teams did this decade.
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2017, 04:44:00 pm »
So does that leave Preston Tucker as OF#5?  Or is he not on the 40-man anymore?

He's on the 40-man, and I believe has options.  The 12 everyday players are effectively set:
McCann
Gattis
Gurriel
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Correa
Gonzalez
Springer
Reddick
Aoki
Marisnick
Beltran

The only real questions are Hoyt or Gustave and will McHugh be ready to start the season.  A no answer on McHugh would open a spot for either of the Hoyt/Gustave loser or Peacock if he isn't dealt by then.
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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2017, 06:37:15 pm »
He's on the 40-man, and I believe has options.  The 12 everyday players are effectively set:
McCann
Gattis
Gurriel
Altuve
Bregman
Correa
Gonzalez
Springer
Reddick
Aoki
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Beltran

The only real questions are Hoyt or Gustave and will McHugh be ready to start the season.  A no answer on McHugh would open a spot for either of the Hoyt/Gustave loser or Peacock if he isn't dealt by then.

the 12-man listed above, if it turns out that way, was pretty much a sure-bet when camp opened.  Barring a trade those 12 will have to play their way "off" the roster.

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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2017, 09:35:08 pm »
the 12-man listed above, if it turns out that way, was pretty much a sure-bet when camp opened.  Barring a trade those 12 will have to play their way "off" the roster.
Was thinking 13 and only 12 pitchers. Beltran as full time DH.
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2017, 06:27:47 am »
Was thinking 13 and only 12 pitchers. Beltran as full time DH.
Hinch has stated more than likely 13 pitchers, 12 position players. Roster is set except for last bullpen slot and rotation, considering mchugh could start on DL. P Tucker was never going to make opening day roster unless there were several injuries. No room. Fresno is going to be crowded and we could see some surprising releases I think.


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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2017, 07:40:52 am »
Hinch has stated more than likely 13 pitchers, 12 position players. Roster is set except for last bullpen slot and rotation, considering mchugh could start on DL. P Tucker was never going to make opening day roster unless there were several injuries. No room. Fresno is going to be crowded and we could see some surprising releases I think.
I agree with your conclusion. I missed the "13 pitchers" somehow and was surprised that P outlasted Teo and others. Guess he did not.
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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2017, 07:47:41 am »
I agree with your conclusion. I missed the "13 pitchers" somehow and was surprised that P outlasted Teo and others. Guess he did not.
Along with the roster reality, Preston has still been recovering from surgery and is just now ramping it up toward game ready. I could see him going to extended spring, which would help logjam


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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2017, 11:28:13 am »
LHP C.J. Riefenhauser released.

RHPs Jordan Jankowski and Tyson Perez were immediately sent to minors camp as were OFs Jon Kemmer and Alejandro Garcia.

The Astros also announced C Juan Centeno and OF Derek Fisher will stay with the club thru the end of Grapefruit League action on Wednesday before heading to Fresno.

UTIL Reid Brignac and 3B J.D. Davis will travel with the club to Houston for the 2 exhibition games with the Cubs. Brignac goes to Fresno after that where Davis will either join him there or will be sent to CC where he spent all of 2016 (Jake Kaplan says the latter is the "more likely").

Both Davis and Fisher were cited by Hinch as having taken the biggest steps forward this spring.

Brignac has a June 1 opt-out in his contract.

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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2017, 09:17:26 am »
Fisher has looked really good this spring.  Don't know where he fits into the long-term plan, but if nothing else, I hope rival scouts with FOR starters saw his performances.
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« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2017, 12:35:11 pm »
Fisher has looked really good this spring.  Don't know where he fits into the long-term plan, but if nothing else, I hope rival scouts with FOR starters saw his performances.
This is a team where LF will be manned by the aging, modestly-skilled Nori Aoki and the already-aged Carlos Beltran. I think they can easily find a full-time place for Fisher by next season if he shows he's worthy. The two big questions with him are:

1. We know he will walk, hit homers, and steal bases. Will he hit for a passable-enough AVG to go along with his offensive strengths?
2. Despite his speed, he was drafted with major questions about his OF defense. Supposedly he has improved a lot (routes, reads etc.) on the farm. Is it good enough now?

He already is a good future fit based on being a LH-hitter. They need at least one of Fisher or Reed to become that big LH bat by next year.
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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2017, 02:52:42 pm »
This is a team where LF will be manned by the aging, modestly-skilled Nori Aoki and the already-aged Carlos Beltran. I think they can easily find a full-time place for Fisher by next season if he shows he's worthy. The two big questions with him are:

1. We know he will walk, hit homers, and steal bases. Will he hit for a passable-enough AVG to go along with his offensive strengths?
2. Despite his speed, he was drafted with major questions about his OF defense. Supposedly he has improved a lot (routes, reads etc.) on the farm. Is it good enough now?

He already is a good future fit based on being a LH-hitter. They need at least one of Fisher or Reed to become that big LH bat by next year.

I would expect him to hit well enough to replace Aoki's contributions next season. His defense has been good enough that they have taken a look at him in CF. I think that is a good sign. I really wouldn't be shocked to see him get some significant ABs this year.

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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2017, 10:16:13 pm »
Hoyt optioned, Gustave stays.

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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2017, 01:41:00 am »
Hoyt optioned, Gustave stays.

I expected the opposite. Not that I think this will be any type of issue... but it is the only roster intrigue available at the moment...

In other news, how fun was that to watch tonight?! A lineup 1-9 that can hit?

Of all people that might embrace being the ninth hitter in a lineup I think Gattis would be the guy to "own" it and absolutely go nuts... in a good way!

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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2017, 06:52:32 am »
I expected the opposite. Not that I think this will be any type of issue... but it is the only roster intrigue available at the moment...

In other news, how fun was that to watch tonight?! A lineup 1-9 that can hit?

Of all people that might embrace being the ninth hitter in a lineup I think Gattis would be the guy to "own" it and absolutely go nuts... in a good way!

That was fun. I definitely had the feeling that these guys can score some runs, and that falling behind isn't a death sentence.
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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2017, 07:08:33 am »
Hoyt optioned, Gustave stays.

My choice, but Hoyt will be back.
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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2017, 08:24:28 am »
My choice, but Hoyt will be back.

I had guessed that it would be the other way around thinking Gustave needs to work more than he will likely get in Houston.
It's a good problem to have though.

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« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2017, 09:17:24 am »
I had guessed that it would be the other way around thinking Gustave needs to work more than he will likely get in Houston.
It's a good problem to have though.

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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2017, 11:15:48 am »
Speaking of lefty relievers, and the glut of MLB level guys playing in Fresno, wonder what it would take to get a solid LHRP from someone.  Hopefully Sipp comes around, but I don't have a ton of confidence in him right now.
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« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2017, 02:29:37 pm »
Hopefully Sipp comes around, but I don't have a ton of confidence in him right now.

More inSippid work this afternoon facing three lefty batters: single, single, walk. Did record one out (against a righty) before getting pulled.

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« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2017, 02:35:36 pm »
More inSippid work this afternoon facing three lefty batters: single, single, walk. Did record one out (against a righty) before getting pulled.

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« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2017, 02:37:15 pm »
More inSippid work this afternoon facing three lefty batters: single, single, walk. Did record one out (against a righty) before getting pulled.

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« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2017, 08:03:57 pm »
Speaking of lefty relievers, and the glut of MLB level guys playing in Fresno, wonder what it would take to get a solid LHRP from someone.  Hopefully Sipp comes around, but I don't have a ton of confidence in him right now.
If the FA market is any indication of the trade cost of reliable lefties, I don't think a package built around Kemp or Moran types would get it done. It would be somebody painful. The Astros may just be crossing their fingers and hoping Guduan or somebody else on the farm steps up this year.
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« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2017, 12:45:10 pm »
An additional roster move today was Kevin Chapman, who's currently playing for Team Canada in the WBC, being put on waivers to remove him from the 40-man roster. Chapman of course was out of options.

(Some might feel compelled to mention at this point that Mike Hauschild, left unprotected in the Rule 5 draft, is having a nice spring thus far for the Rangers and remains in contention for a spot in their rotation.)

Hauschild has made the Rangers' opening day roster. Congrats to him.

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« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2017, 02:13:44 pm »
Hauschild has made the Rangers' opening day roster. Congrats to him.

As I said from ST, good for him for having a great spring, but I really did not like his throwing motion.
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