stRangizz @ Astros September 14, 2016

[Mr. Happy]

Your lineups for tonight's home tilt:

stRangizz

LFCarlos Gomez (R)
CFIan Desmond (R)
DHCarlos Beltran (S)
3BAdrian Beltre (R)
2BRougned Odor (L)
CJonathan Lucroy (R)
1BJ. Profar (S)
RFNomar Mazara (L)
SSElvis Andrus (R)

TEX: Derek Holland (L)  (7-7, 4.74)

Astros

RF George Springer (R)
3B Alex Bregman (R)
2B Jose Altuve (R)
SS Carlos Correa (R)
DH Y. Gurriel (R)
C Evan Gattis (R)
1B Marwin Gonzalez (S)
LF T. Hernandez (R)
CF Jake Marisnick (R)

HOU: Joe Musgrove (R)  (2-4, 4.78)

[HudsonHawk]

Rangers grab the lead on another bullshit non-made easy out.

[HudsonHawk]

T1:

Gomez strikes out swinging on three pitches
Desmond taps one out in front of the plate, Musgrove inexplicably calls off Gattis and then can't pick it up...scored a single, but should have been an easy out.
Beltran...full count...doubles down RF line, Desmond scores
Beltre grounds out 4-3, Beltran to 3B
Odor grounds out 3-1

1-0 Rangers

[HudsonHawk]

Springer Dinger!!

Ties it back up with a leadoff home run.

[Aussie Astro]

Springer Dinger!!

Ties it back up with a leadoff home run.

Ended his 0 for 16 run

[HudsonHawk]

B1:

Springer homers to LCF
Bregman grounds out 6-3
Altuve doubles off the LF wall
Altuve steals 3B...Rangers gonna challenge...throw beat him by two feet, so overturned...caught stealing 2-5
Correa strikes out swinging

1-1

[Jacksonian]

Rangers grab the lead on another bullshit non-made easy out.

Still, I'd like to see him in the rotation next year.

[HudsonHawk]

Still, I'd like to see him in the rotation next year.

I'm OK with that.  But you have to make that play.  You can't give back outs, in any inning.  Gattis has to make that play. 

[Jacksonian]

I'm OK with that.  But you have to make that play.  You can't give back outs, in any inning.  Gattis has to make that play.

He could have just as easily stopped, picked it up and still thrown him out by a step.  He panicked a little.  Rookies. What are you going to do?

[HudsonHawk]

Still, I'd like to see him in the rotation next year.

He's going to have to stop hanging breaking balls though.

[HudsonHawk]

T2:

Lucroy grounds out 3-1
Profar flies out F9
Mazara grounds to 3B...nobody there on the shift...single
Andrus lines a single to LF on an 0-2 hanging slider, Mazara to 2B
Gomez strikes out swinging on three pitches

1-1

[HudsonHawk]

He could have just as easily stopped, picked it up and still thrown him out by a step.  He panicked a little.  Rookies. What are you going to do?

You let the catcher make that play.  It's his all the way.  But yeah, he panicked. 

[Jacksonian]

Teo!

[HudsonHawk]

Teo with a 2-run shibby!

[hostros7]

That was a grown ass man home run by teo


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[HudsonHawk]

Hernandez just demonstrated how one is ready to hit 2-0

[HudsonHawk]

B2:

Gurriel lines out to LF on the first pitch
Gattis lines a single to LF
Marwin flies out to the track in CF
Hernandez homers to LCF, Gattis scores
Marisnick grounds out 5-3

3-1 Astros

[Jacksonian]

Hernandez just demonstrated how one is ready to hit 2-0

I wouldn't mind him being the regular in left next year.

[juliogotay]

Hernandez just demonstrated how one is ready to hit 2-0

He has exceeded any expectation I had of him from reading scouting reports online.
Wonder how he would do playing everyday? Is he allergic to RHers?

[juliogotay]

Oh shit. Time to mute with the promotion gal in the booth.

[Jacksonian]

He has exceeded any expectation I had of him from reading scouting reports online.
Wonder how he would do playing everyday? Is he allergic to RHers?

His hitting hasn't been an issue except the one year in Corpus.  He's been a slow but steady developer.

[juliogotay]

Still, I'd like to see him in the rotation next year.

I'm sure he will be in the rotation. Wouldn't it be great if he was holding down the 4th or 5th spot?

Did Peacock earn a legit look at the rotation next year? Can Luhnow dare count on him?

[HudsonHawk]

T3:

Desmond strikes out looking
Beltran fists a little looping liner to SS
Beltre flies out F9

3-1 Astros

[Jacksonian]

I'm sure he will be in the rotation. Wouldn't it be great if he was holding down the 4th or 5th spot?

Did Peacock earn a legit look at the rotation next year? Can Luhnow dare count on him?

If Keuchel and McCullers are healthy, add in Musgrove, then you've got in house any combination of McHugh, Fiers, Paulino, Feliz, and Peacock.  Plus anyone Luhnow might sign or deal for.  I'm not sure Peacock won't be gone.

[Nate Colbert]

If Keuchel and McCullers are healthy, add in Musgrove, then you've got in house any combination of McHugh, Fiers, Paulino, Feliz, and Peacock. 

As good as he's been out of the pen, I would add Devo to that group.

[juliogotay]

If Keuchel and McCullers are healthy, add in Musgrove, then you've got in house any combination of McHugh, Fiers, Paulino, Feliz, and Peacock.  Plus anyone Luhnow might sign or deal for.  I'm not sure Peacock won't be gone.

Maybe Martes is ready by July. It still looks like a gamble to not bring in a TOR guy if they can deal for one.

[Jacksonian]

As good as he's been out of the pen, I would add Devo to that group.

And that's why I'd look at him as a final innings reliever.  He could give Luhnow a look at including Gregerson in a deal.

I don't know that he has the variety and stuff to see a lineup 3 times.

[Jacksonian]

Maybe Martes is ready by July. It still looks like a gamble to not bring in a TOR guy if they can deal for one.

That's a big if.

[Jacksonian]

Bregman is 0 for his last 12.

[Nate Colbert]

And that's why I'd look at him as a final innings reliever.  He could give Luhnow a look at including Gregerson in a deal.

I don't know that he has the variety and stuff to see a lineup 3 times.

If it doesn't work out, move him back to the pen.

[Jacksonian]

If it doesn't work out, move him back to the pen.

It didn't work well this year.  He was a different kind of pitcher when he started.

[HudsonHawk]

B3:

Springer singles to RF
Bregman flies out F9
Altuve flies out F9
Correa strikes out swinging at a pitch over his head

3-1 Astros

[Nate Colbert]

It didn't work well this year.  He was a different kind of pitcher when we started.

5 starts isn't much of an audition.

[Jacksonian]

5 starts isn't much of an audition.

We'll see what the Astros do but I'm not a believer in the was a starter in the minors so he has to have a chance to start in the majors.  He's proving right now that he's a terrific reliever.

[HudsonHawk]

T4:

Odor strikes out looking, Ashby bitches about the call
Lucroy flies out F8
Profar grounds out 4-3

3-1 Astros

[HudsonHawk]

Someone else grab PBP.

[Jacksonian]

T4:

Odor strikes out looking, Ashby bitches about the call
Lucroy flies out F8
Profar grounds out 4-3

3-1 Astros

Musgrove is settling in.

[Jacksonian]

Bottom 4
Gurriel grounds to third.
Gattis flies to center.
Marwin strikes out swinging.

[austro]

Fuck: Altuve out of the game with a tweak of his right oblique.

[Jacksonian]

Top 5
Mazarra strikes out swinging.
Andrus strikes out swinging.
Gomez walks on 5 pitches. Gattis whiffed catching a pitch over the plate costing Musgrove a strike.
Desmond pops foul to White at first.

[Jacksonian]

That's my inning. Gotta go pick up the oldest at drivers ed.

[NeilT]

Booing Gomez pisses me off .

[juliogotay]

Booing Gomez pisses me off .

Why?

[Aussie Astro]

Why?

They should save it for Odor?

[hostros7]

Bregman looks injured. Astros considering folding at this point


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[NeilT]

Why?

Guy's at the end of his string. He may not have been any good, but he'd still be here if he could be.

[juliogotay]

Gurriel generally hits what he swings at. And hard.

[Aussie Astro]

Bregman looks injured. Astros considering folding at this point


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Hamstring by the look of it, a pretty bad look,  Not sure why there is even a discussion about taking him out of the game?

[NeilT]

Why's Altuve out?

[MusicMan]

First Altuve, now Bregman, and seriously, fuck 2016 with a rake.

[MusicMan]

Why's Altuve out?

Oblique strain.

[Aussie Astro]

Oblique strain.

I think the radio guys called it discomfort, which sounds like code for mild strain?

[NeilT]

Marwin's likely to end tonight pitching.

[hostros7]

First Altuve, now Bregman, and seriously, fuck 2016 with a rake.

The wide end, yes?


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[NeilT]

I hate the Rangers.

[HudsonHawk]

Boy, Mazara sure enjoyed a nice leisurely stroll around the bases there.

5-3 now.

[The Spleen]

The wide end, yes?

Both ends at once. Then stab it in the neck with the jagged broken off handle until it stops moving...

[WVastro]

Both altuve and Bergman eh? So even when they can actually maybe sorta have a slim chance of winning a game against the Rangers the BBG's have to take this kind of a sacrifice!?

I'm about to go full Prometheus mode on their ass. I know me and my liver lose this battle but worry not fellow GZers. My liver is well and truly fucked already. Someone has to knock these ranger loving shits down a rung...

[The Spleen]

Oblique strain.

That's one of those obscure injuries that I used to question. 'He's out that long with what?!'
Until it happened to me. Weeks of misery...

[juliogotay]

That's one of those obscure injuries that I used to question. 'He's out that long with what?!'
Until it happened to me. Weeks of misery...

it's a big muscle.

[jbm]

I've been fast forwarding, but saw Bregman's (not sure what happened).  When did it happen with Altuve, during a swing?

[jbm]

Wasn't the triple hit over Rasmus last night?

[NeilT]

This team will suck until Marisnick hits at least .223.

[jbm]

Wasn't the triple hit over Rasmus last night?

Never mind, see that he replaced Rasmus in center.

[juliogotay]

I've been fast forwarding, but saw Bregman's (not sure what happened).  When did it happen with Altuve, during a swing?

Altuve was hitting. Bregman was running the bases and ducked down to not be beaned by a throw from Beltre.

[HudsonHawk]

Altuve was hitting. Bregman was running the bases and ducked down to not be beaned by a throw from Beltre.

White was hitting.

5-4 now, Rangers still hitting in the 8th.

[Jacksonian]

You throw the same pitch in the same spot over and over and a professional hitter will hit it

[David in Jackson]

I'm leaving now, thanks.

[juliogotay]

White was hitting.

5-4 now, Rangers still hitting in the 8th.

Altuve was hitting when he tweaked the oblique.

[HudsonHawk]

Altuve was hitting when he tweaked the oblique.

Yeah. Thought you meant on the ground ball on which Bregman got hurt.

[Texifornia]

Hero time for Marwin.

[Jacksonian]

Yay Marwin.

[MrKnuckleball]

You da man Marwin

[HudsonHawk]

Marwin makes them pay for the IBB...2-run single to make it 7-4

[Texifornia]

Yay Marwin.

What a valuable player to have.

[MrKnuckleball]

What a valuable player to have.

I've always liked that guy. Must be really nice for a manager to have him too.

[HudsonHawk]

Ashby: not much you can do there.

Yes...you can not take three fucking strikes with a runner 3B and one out.

[Jacksonian]

Ashby: not much you can do there.

Yes...you can not take three fucking strikes with a runner 3B and one out.

Fight off anything close.

[WVastro]

Marisnick!

[jbm]

Strange sub by Hinch. It basically set up the lefty vs lefty matchup.

Jake picks up Colby though.

[Jacksonian]

Strange sub by Hinch. It basically set up the lefty vs lefty matchup.

Jake picks up Colby though.

Did they announce Colby before the change?

[jbm]

Did they announce Colby before the change?

I assume so as it would make even less sense to use him after the switch.

[HudsonHawk]

Fight off anything close.

You'd have to swing though.

[Jacksonian]

You'd have to swing though.

Right. Putrid.

[Aussie Astro]

You'd have to swing though.

They may be trying to minimise oblique strain risks.

[Jacksonian]

Devenski's fastball sits at 89-90 when he's starting.  That extra 5 mph he gets when relieving makes a huge difference on the view of his change.

[jbm]

Devenski's fastball sits at 89-90 when he's starting.  That extra 5 mph he gets when relieving makes a huge difference on the view of his change.

Agreed. I suspect that's the main reason for his improved success out if the pen.  Improved slider has helped also.

[Jacksonian]

A rare win. Yay!

[jbm]

Small consolation, but still, beat the fucking Rangers.

[Aussie Astro]

Nice to win the finale against these turds, especially seeing how rancid the season series has been.

[MrKnuckleball]

Winning tonight makes last night hurt even worse. But hey we won! Go Angels.

[WVastro]

A rare win. Yay!

I'm happy for that.. but to see Bergman exit like he did and then the dreaded "oblique" word with Altuve... it was going to require a heroic effort already but if those two are out for any amount of time. Damn, I guess it's about to be the Marwin ESPN highlight show these next two weeks. I hope he's prepared.

[MrKnuckleball]

Does Devo sling the best changeup in the league or am I a huge homer?

[HudsonHawk]

Does Devo sling the best changeup in the league or am I a huge homer?

He's got a good one, but you're a huge homer. 

[MrKnuckleball]

He's got a good one, but you're a huge homer.

I'm glad you are honest. Who has the best?

[JimR]

I'm OK with that.  But you have to make that play.  You can't give back outs, in any inning.  Gattis has to make that play.

Pitchers do not call off catchers

[HudsonHawk]

Pitchers do not call off catchers

They're not supposed to, but that's sure what it looked like.  Gattis backed off.  That's his play.

[JimR]

They're not supposed to, but that's sure what it looked like.  Gattis backed off.  That's his play.

yessir, it is. He should be giving directions, not taking them.