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Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« on: August 22, 2016, 03:56:03 pm »
Your lineups for tonight's tilt:

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Springer 9
Bregman 5
Altuve 4
Correa 6
Reed 3
Hernandez 7
Castro 2
Marisnick 8
Fister 1

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Harrison 4
Marte 7
McCutchen 8
Polanco 9
Freese 5
Bell 3
Cervelli 2
Mercer 6
Taillon 1
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2016, 04:04:20 pm »
No Gurriel. Apparently tweaked a hammy.


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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2016, 04:06:34 pm »
No Gurriel. Apparently tweaked a hammy.


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I thought Hinch said they were considering giving him today off anyway.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2016, 05:04:42 pm »
I thought Hinch said they were considering giving him today off anyway.

Yes. He said he could probably go and will be in the lineup tomorrow.


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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2016, 05:28:36 pm »
I wonder where he will be in the lineup.  Without the DH, is Hinch moving Bregman to LF or possibly 1B, or might Gurriel fill those spots. 

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2016, 06:14:02 pm »
T1:

Springer...3-2...strikes out swinging at a slider 4 feet outside
Bregman pops out F6 in foul territory
Altuve takes two strikes, swings and misses at a pitch that bounces on the grass 5 feet from the plate

No score.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2016, 06:20:52 pm »
B1:

Harrison grounds out 6-3
Marte flies out to shallow RF
McCutchen strikes out swinging

No score after one
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2016, 06:27:47 pm »
T2:

Correa strikes out swinging at a pitch that almost hits him in the chest
Reed grounds out 3-1
Hernandez strikes out swinging at a pitch over his head.

No score
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2016, 06:34:35 pm »
B2:

Polanco lines out to LF
Freese walks
Bell lines out to LF, Hernandez just lollygags the ball back which is too bad because Freese had rounded 2B and they had an easy double play had Teoscar not been so fucking lazy
Cervelli flies out F7

No score
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2016, 06:35:14 pm »
I'm already tired of Hernandez's lollygagging shit in the outfield
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2016, 06:41:38 pm »
T3:

Castro strikes out swinging at a pitch 3 feet off the plate
Marisnick bunts the first pitch...right back to the pitcher...1-3
Fister grounds back to the mound...1-3

No score

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2016, 06:47:33 pm »
B3:

Mercer strikes out looking
Taillon strikes out looking
Harrison taps back to the mound

No score still
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2016, 06:54:48 pm »
T4:

Springer makes an out, but they don't show it because they're showing highlights of how great he's been hitting lately.  Ashby not interested in explaining it
Bregman flies out F9...nice drive the other way, but right at the RFer
Altuve hits a scorching lazer right at the third baseman, the ball bounces off the third baseman, directly to the SS, but he can't handle it either...it basically knocked down two fielders
Correa grounds into FC, Altuve out 6-4

Still no score
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2016, 06:58:38 pm »
Springer grounded out to shortstop on the first pitch.

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2016, 07:04:39 pm »
B4:

Marte strikes out looking
McCutchen...3-0...3-1...grounds out 6-3
Polanco doubles off the RF wall
Polanco moves to 3B on a TE-1 on an attempted pickoff
Freese strikes out swinging

Still no score
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2016, 07:08:46 pm »
Taillion was 13 when Pujols broke Lidge. He threw the remote at the TV, breaking both.

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2016, 07:11:46 pm »
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2016, 07:11:50 pm »
Hernandez!!!

2-run shibby gives the Astros the lead
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2016, 07:12:33 pm »
I'm already tired of Hernandez's lollygagging shit in the outfield
At least he seems to be able to hit right?

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2016, 07:13:23 pm »
I'm already tired of Hernandez's lollygagging shit in the outfield

You know what that makes them?
Larry?!?!
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2016, 07:17:51 pm »
T5:

Reed draws a leadoff walk
Reed moves to 2B on a passed ball
Hernandez homers to LF, Reed scores
Castro doubles down the RF line
Marisnick with a swinging bunt single, Castro to 3B
Fister strikes out looking, why he wasn't bunting no one knows
Springer grounds into 6-4-3 double play because Fister didn't bunt

But the Astros grab a 2-0 lead.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2016, 07:20:27 pm »
Poor strategy cost a run there.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2016, 07:23:05 pm »
Springer did not ground into a double play because Fister failed to bunt.

Jesus. Captain Grumpy's PBP.

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2016, 07:23:37 pm »
B5:

Bell flies out F7
Cervelli singles to CF
Mercer flies out F8
Taillon grounds out 3U on the first pitch

2-0 Astros
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2016, 07:24:57 pm »
Springer did not ground into a double play because Fister failed to bunt.

Jesus. Captain Grumpy's PBP.

So "had Fister bunted, Springer would not have grounded into a double play".  That better?
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2016, 07:25:52 pm »
It is, yeah. Though he still may have lined into one.

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2016, 07:27:26 pm »
So "had Fister bunted, Springer would not have grounded into a double play".  That better?

Say it however you like, I expected Fister to try and lay down a bunt in those circumstance.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2016, 07:29:16 pm »
Say it however you like, I expected Fister to try and lay down a bunt in those circumstance.

Exactly. At least you get it.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2016, 07:30:00 pm »
T6:

Bregman pops out F6
Altuve flies out F9 on the first pitch
Correa lines one up the middle, but the second baseman is right there...4-3

2-0 Astros
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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2016, 07:34:04 pm »
Exactly. At least you get it.

Radio guys discussed it briefly.  They didn't say bad strategy but said Springer DP after Fister did not bunt.  I take they were trying to avoid being too critical.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2016, 07:35:09 pm »
B6:

Harrison strikes out swinging
Marte flies out F8 on the first pitch
McCutchen grounds out 5-3

2-0 Astros
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2016, 07:35:53 pm »
Exactly. At least you get it.

Nobody didn't get it. Fister attempted to drop the bunt on the first pitch. It's weird that he didn't keep trying after that--particularly on the juicy two-strike curveball.

The assumption that if you take the middle link out of the chain, the last link is unaffected just happens to be one of my pet peeves in baseball commentary.

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2016, 07:36:35 pm »
I take they were trying to avoid being too critical.

I am not under any such restraint.  You bunt there and give Springer and Bregman a chance to drive in another run or two.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2016, 07:38:18 pm »
Nobody didn't get it. Fister attempted to drop the bunt on the first pitch. It's weird that he didn't keep trying after that--particularly on the juicy two-strike curveball.

The assumption that if you take the middle link out of the chain, the last link is unaffected just happens to be one of my pet peeves in baseball commentary.

Not bunting with runners at the corner and nobody out with an AL pitcher up is one of mine.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2016, 07:42:09 pm »
T7:

Reed reaches on an E3
Marwin in to run for Reed
Hernandez grounds into 6-4-3 double play on the first pitch
Castro strikes out looking

At the stretch...2-0 Astros
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2016, 07:51:28 pm »
B7:

Polanco grounds out 3U
Freese grounds out 4-3
Bell doubles down the LF line
Cervelli flies out F7

2-0 Astros
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2016, 07:51:49 pm »
Teoscars catch unnecessarily elevated my heart rate.


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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2016, 07:54:41 pm »
Teoscars catch unnecessarily elevated my heart rate.


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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2016, 07:57:14 pm »
Teoscars catch unnecessarily elevated my heart rate.


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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2016, 07:58:38 pm »
T8:

Marisnick strikes out swinging
Gurriel, pinch hitting for Fister...grounds out 6-3
Springer grounds out 4-3

2-0 Astros
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2016, 08:02:20 pm »
Bregman certainly hasn't had an issue with those barehanders the last couple days


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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2016, 08:04:16 pm »
Bregman is a stud.

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« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2016, 08:04:29 pm »
Bregman certainly hasn't had an issue with those barehanders the last couple days


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He's played really well...made some nice plays behind the bag, some nice barehanded pickups.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2016, 08:04:29 pm »
Bregman certainly hasn't had an issue with those barehanders the last couple days

It's to the point where Ashby doesn't even complain about Bregman's not using the glove.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2016, 08:06:13 pm »
B8:

Harris in for the Astros...

Mercer grounds out 5-3 on a really nice barehanded pickup by Bregman
Joyce...pinch hitting for Taillon...strikes out swinging
Harrison taps back to the mound...1-3

To the 9th...2-0 Astros
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2016, 08:10:25 pm »
Bregman!!!
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« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2016, 08:10:32 pm »
Ash cracks me up.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2016, 08:10:38 pm »
Bregman is unimpressed with NL pitching.
He breezed him, one more time!

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2016, 08:10:45 pm »
What the hell was Ashby watching?

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2016, 08:12:51 pm »
McCutcheon duped the Pirates broadcasters, too--if that's what you're referring to.

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2016, 08:14:03 pm »
What the hell was Ashby watching?

Did he say it was going to be a fly out?  I think I got conned by the radio commentators but I was surprised when it went out.
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« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2016, 08:15:04 pm »
Did he say it was going to be a fly out?  I think I got conned by the radio commentators but I was surprised when it went out.

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« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2016, 08:15:49 pm »
Did he say it was going to be a fly out?  I think I got conned by the radio commentators but I was surprised when it went out.

Yes, he called it an easy play for McCutchen, but it was out by about 60 feet.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2016, 08:16:18 pm »
T9:

Feliz in for the Pirates

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Altuve grounds to SS, but can't get him...infield single...Pirates challenging...reversed...score it 6-3
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Astros up 3-0
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« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2016, 08:16:26 pm »
You could tell by the sound of the ball off the bat that he had crushed it. You had to have been paying attention, though.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2016, 08:18:31 pm »
I'm in the Pittsburgh area so I have to watch in a loud bar. It fooled me the way McCutchen set up and I looked away in frustration because I thought he crushed it. I was surprised to see the score later!

Maybe that's it. Ashby calls all of the games from a loud bar in Pittsburgh.

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2016, 08:19:48 pm »
Pittsburgh broadcast zeroed in on Altuve talking intently to the intently listening Bregman for most of Margo's at bat. Looked an awful lot like leadership.

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« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2016, 08:26:45 pm »
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2016, 08:27:16 pm »
B9:

Giles in to try to close it out...

Marte strikes out swinging
McCutchen strikes out swinging
Polanco with a rulebook double to LCF
Freese hits one hard down the 3B line...Bregman dives, but bounces the throw and Marwin can't handle it..Polanco scores on the TE-5, but the ball bounces off the railing, right back to Marwin who nails Freese trying to move to 2B...I think that's scored 5-3-4.

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« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2016, 08:29:25 pm »
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« Reply #60 on: August 22, 2016, 08:30:39 pm »
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« Reply #61 on: August 22, 2016, 08:30:55 pm »
A brain freeze to end the game. Nice job by the youngsters, Fister and Harris.  Only minor point would be a cleaner ninth.

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« Reply #62 on: August 22, 2016, 08:35:27 pm »
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #63 on: August 22, 2016, 08:44:29 pm »
B2:

Polanco lines out to LF
Freese walks
Bell lines out to LF, Hernandez just lollygags the ball back which is too bad because Freese had rounded 2B and they had an easy double play had Teoscar not been so fucking lazy
Cervelli flies out F7

No score

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« Reply #64 on: August 22, 2016, 08:48:16 pm »
He's sure doesn't seem to have much need for hustle.

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« Reply #65 on: August 22, 2016, 08:49:08 pm »
Did he say it was going to be a fly out?  I think I got conned by the radio commentators but I was surprised when it went out.

The broadcasters have a pretty bad location in that park.  I was watching the fielder, and thought McCutcheon was drifting into position.  McCutcheon must have known where that ball was going, because he sure didn't take off for the fence.
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« Reply #66 on: August 22, 2016, 08:50:36 pm »
Yes, he called it an easy play for McCutchen, but it was out by about 60 feet.

McCutcheon fooled me too. He acted like he had it.
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« Reply #67 on: August 22, 2016, 08:52:25 pm »
This is just crazy.

I've seen at least five or six plays that he simply didn't hustle to the ball and didn't give himself a chance to make a play.  The fly ball tonight where he was nonchalant and cost a chance at a double play was a perfect example.  Hinch even addressed it in the post-game, said they'd "have a talk with him".  If you think he's busting it all out, ok.  I don't 'see it that way. 
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #68 on: August 22, 2016, 08:53:48 pm »
A brain freeze to end the game. Nice job by the youngsters, Fister and Harris.  Only minor point would be a cleaner ninth.

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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #69 on: August 22, 2016, 09:28:34 pm »
another good win. I'm impressed about how this team plays on the road. I've watched this team forever and they never hav played well on the road except maybe their championship years. On Saturday, after that great comeback Friday night, Correa said they were going on a roll now. He said it with great confidence.

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« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2016, 01:19:48 am »
I've seen at least five or six plays that he simply didn't hustle to the ball and didn't give himself a chance to make a play.  The fly ball tonight where he was nonchalant and cost a chance at a double play was a perfect example.  Hinch even addressed it in the post-game, said they'd "have a talk with him".  If you think he's busting it all out, ok.  I don't 'see it that way.

I haven't seen him play much but in this case it looked like a situational awareness issue.  He wasn't hustling, at least didn't appear to be, probably because he didn't realise/recognise the need.  Hey, lucky he didn't turn around and toss the ball to a fan for a souvenir...  I know I have see that before but I just don't remember where and when.
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« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2016, 08:28:48 am »
No matter how you slice the hustle pie, this was a nice clean win for the Good Guys. The rookies supplied the pop, and the pitching was great. The play has definitely improved over the past week. Even though this team may not make the wild card, I like what I'm seeing. I love the leadership from Altuve, who I call the Piranha. This really is his team. If everyone adopts his work ethic, good things are going to happen.
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« Reply #72 on: August 23, 2016, 08:46:46 am »
I haven't seen him play much but in this case it looked like a situational awareness issue.  He wasn't hustling, at least didn't appear to be, probably because he didn't realise/recognise the need.  Hey, lucky he didn't turn around and toss the ball to a fan for a souvenir...  I know I have see that before but I just don't remember where and when.

I remember Berkmen doing at least once. 

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« Reply #73 on: August 23, 2016, 08:57:35 am »
I am really delighted with Hernandez so far. His fielding will come around, not sure about his arm. I like that A.J. Reed is picking up a lot of bases on balls, he's not chasing pitches out of the zone. Musgrove had a bad outing but otherwise has been stellar. And Bregman is now  meeting the highest of expectations.  I like these rookies.
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« Reply #74 on: August 23, 2016, 09:01:16 am »
I haven't seen him play much but in this case it looked like a situational awareness issue.  He wasn't hustling, at least didn't appear to be, probably because he didn't realise/recognise the need.  Hey, lucky he didn't turn around and toss the ball to a fan for a souvenir...  I know I have see that before but I just don't remember where and when.

Looking at the replay it seems to me more about taking every baserunner seriously, even ones on first base.  I'm sure it won't happen again.
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« Reply #75 on: August 23, 2016, 09:20:24 am »
In his post-game interview, he mentioned being unsure himself playing LF in a ballpark he had not seen. I wish I could have seen some of the harsh critics on here play. I'll bet it came very easy for you.
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« Reply #76 on: August 23, 2016, 09:31:07 am »
Looking at the replay it seems to me more about taking every baserunner seriously, even ones on first base.  I'm sure it won't happen again.

I agree. Many of us probably remember some of Jose Altuve's brain farts out in the field when he was just starting. I question Hernandez's arm, but not his speed or his bat.
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« Reply #77 on: August 23, 2016, 10:12:20 am »
In his post-game interview, he mentioned being unsure himself playing LF in a ballpark he had not seen. I wish I could have seen some of the harsh critics on here play. I'll bet it came very easy for you.

Being critical of a guy's effort or awareness has nothing to do with how well we played the game.  You know this. 
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« Reply #78 on: August 23, 2016, 10:14:49 am »
I agree. Many of us probably remember some of Jose Altuve's brain farts out in the field when he was just starting. I question Hernandez's arm, but not his speed or his bat.

I don't question his bat or speed either.  I  question his effort on a few plays.  Hinch called him "cavalier" out there and said they're going to fix it. 

He has shown a subpar outfield arm.
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« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2016, 01:00:18 pm »
I am really delighted with Hernandez so far. His fielding will come around, not sure about his arm. I like that A.J. Reed is picking up a lot of bases on balls, he's not chasing pitches out of the zone. Musgrove had a bad outing but otherwise has been stellar. And Bregman is now  meeting the highest of expectations.  I like these rookies.

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« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2016, 03:50:07 pm »
I remember Berkmen doing at least once.

It was Lane.
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« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2016, 04:04:37 pm »
It was Lane.

I saw Larry Walker do it, so it happens to the best of them.
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Re: Astros @ Pirates August 22, 2016
« Reply #82 on: August 23, 2016, 06:09:10 pm »
Looking at the replay it seems to me more about taking every baserunner seriously, even ones on first base.  I'm sure it won't happen again.

This is probably a better explanation.
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