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Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« on: July 19, 2016, 05:06:00 pm »
Your lineups for tonight's late show:

Astros

RFGeorge Springer (R)
1BMarwin Gonzalez (S)
2BJose Altuve (R)
SSCarlos Correa (R)
3BLuis Valbuena (L)
DHCarlos Gomez (R)
LFColby Rasmus (L)
CEvan Gattis (R)
CFJake Marisnick (R)

HOU: Dallas Keuchel (L)  (6-9, 4.80)

Athletics

CF Coco Crisp (S)
2B Jed Lowrie (S)
1B Danny Valencia (R)
LF Khris Davis (R)
SS Marcus Semien (R)
DH Billy Butler (R)
RF Jake Smolinski (R)
3B Ryon Healy (R)
C Matt McBride (R)

OAK: Dillon Overton (L)  (1-1, 11.42)
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2016, 05:54:08 pm »
Marisnick? Really? That guy is horrible offensively. He looks lost at the plate. Love my Stros but it's the truth.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2016, 06:01:29 pm »
Marisnick? Really? That guy is horrible offensively. He looks lost at the plate. Love my Stros but it's the truth.

Read more and post less. Marisnick is hitting .350 in the last 14 days and .267 over his last 28 days. He's a very good fourth/fifth outfielder. If you can't see that, then we've got nothing to discuss.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2016, 06:04:58 pm »
Read more and post less. Marisnick is hitting .350 in the last 14 days and .267 over his last 28 days. He's a very good fourth/fifth outfielder. If you can't see that, then we've got nothing to discuss.
I don't care what he is hitting in the past 14 or 28 days. His average for the year is .200. That is not good.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2016, 06:10:42 pm »
I don't care what he is hitting in the past 14 or 28 days. His average for the year is .200. That is not good.

One of the hardest things to do in baseball is to play sporadically like Marisnick plays. No, .200 is not good, but there are several other Astros who are near that mark despite getting regular playing time. I take it that you have a problem with those players too?
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2016, 06:13:42 pm »
One of the hardest things to do in baseball is to play sporadically like Marisnick plays. No, .200 is not good, but there are several other Astros who are near that mark despite getting regular playing time. I take it that you have a problem with those players too?
Yeah for sure. .200 is not acceptable if you are in the majors and getting regular playing time. You wouldn't agree?

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2016, 06:18:46 pm »
Yeah for sure. .200 is not acceptable if you are in the majors and getting regular playing time. You wouldn't agree?

I don't disagree. Gattis, Castro and Gomez would sit more if I ran the show. My point about Marisnick is that he plays great defense and runs the bases well, making him an ideal extra outfielder. Even harder than playing only periodically is pinch hitting, coming off of the bench cold.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2016, 06:25:47 pm »
I don't disagree. Gattis, Castro and Gomez would sit more if I ran the show. My point about Marisnick is that he plays great defense and runs the bases well, making him an ideal extra outfielder. Even harder than playing only periodically is pinch hitting, coming off of the bench cold.
Well last year Marisnick played in 133 games and still only batted .236. So he wasn't just an extra outfielder last year. But yes he can run the bases and play defense well. I just think we can get someone else or have someone in the minors to play good defense and run well that will hit a little better than that.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2016, 06:27:42 pm »
Well last year Marisnick played in 133 games and still only batted .236. So he wasn't just an extra outfielder last year. But yes he can run the bases and play defense well. I just think we can get someone else or have someone in the minors to play good defense and run well that will hit a little better than that.

That was last year. Marisnick's light production in CF prompted in part the Gomez trade, which I still don't like.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2016, 06:31:44 pm »
That was last year. Marisnick's light production in CF prompted in part the Gomez trade, which I still don't like.
I'm not a huge fan of the Gomez deal either but it is what it is I guess. I don't see them resigning Gomez or Rasmus if they keep their same pace.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2016, 06:38:13 pm »
There are players on this team who need to be replaced, marisnick is not one of them. Yeah he isn't a great hitter but he plays great defense and runs well. He plays his role well, that's all you need. You can't play the same players every single day. Every team needs a marisnick to put in off the bench and spot start.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2016, 06:40:15 pm »
There are players on this team who need to be replaced, marisnick is not one of them. Yeah he isn't a great hitter but he plays great defense and runs well. He plays his role well, that's all you need. You can't play the same players every single day. Every team needs a marisnick to put in off the bench and spot start.

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Thanks for making an excellent point. I really like Marisnick on this team.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2016, 07:20:31 pm »
I don't care what he is hitting in the past 14 or 28 days. His average for the year is .200. That is not good.

Since Happy opened this can, and since jimr isn't here to drive it in the ditch yet, let's try to be constructive. Are you saying Marisnick shouldn't start or shouldn't be on the team? If he doesn't start tonight, who would you put in his place? Don't forget there is a south paw on the mound.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2016, 07:25:31 pm »
Since Happy opened this can, and since jimr isn't here to drive it in the ditch yet, let's try to be constructive. Are you saying Marisnick shouldn't start or shouldn't be on the team? If he doesn't start tonight, who would you put in his place? Don't forget there is a south paw on the mound.

Drive what in the ditch?

ETA hitting .350 in the last 14 days and .267 in the last 28 is way more important than a .200 season average. Marisnick is a great 4th OFer.

What is Gattis hitting? Rasmus? Lots of automatic outs, and Gomez is the whipping boy.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2016, 07:26:32 pm »
Since Happy opened this can, and since jimr isn't here to drive it in the ditch yet, let's try to be constructive. Are you saying Marisnick shouldn't start or shouldn't be on the team? If he doesn't start tonight, who would you put in his place? Don't forget there is a south paw on the mound.
Shouldn't be on the team. Gomez should start in center.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2016, 07:30:19 pm »
Shouldn't be on the team. Gomez should start in center.

Out of your mind.

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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2016, 07:31:20 pm »
Out of your mind.

Great 4th OFer. Better CFer than Gomez.
Better fielder yes I agree. Offensively no way.

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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2016, 07:35:17 pm »
Shouldn't be on the team. Gomez should start in center.

Gomez is also hitting a whopping 12 points higher. And his last 28 days has been: .195/.262/.351. But his preening is far superior.

Who would become the 4th outfielder? Who would be the DH?
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2016, 07:36:49 pm »
Better fielder yes I agree. Offensively no way.

CF is a defensive position. Hitting is separate.

Go back and read Happy's first sentence. That is a mantra here.

Marisnick is a valuable member of this team for his defense and his speed, and he is hitting at the moment. He is a better CFer than Gomez. 25 men on a team, not just 9.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2016, 07:42:15 pm »
CF is a defensive position. Hitting is separate.

Even more so when half your games are in Minute Maid. 

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2016, 07:42:35 pm »
Shouldn't be on the team. Gomez should start in center.

Gomez may very well be a little banged up after bouncing into the wall and sliding hand-first into 1st base last night. And "shouldn't be on the team" is a hard position to defend: he plays a couple of valuable roles and plays them very well.
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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2016, 07:43:56 pm »
Gomez may very well be a little banged up after bouncing into the wall and sliding hand-first into 1st base last night. And "shouldn't be on the team" is a hard position to defend: he plays a couple of valuable roles and plays them very well.

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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2016, 07:44:58 pm »
CF is a defensive position. Hitting is separate.

Go back and read Happy's first sentence. That is a mantra here.

Marisnick is a valuable member of this team for his defense and his speed, and he is hitting at the moment. He is a better CFer than Gomez. 25 men on a team, not just 9.
I understand it's a defensive position but you still can't look like a chump at the plate. At the end of the day I guess we don't have a quality all around center fielder.

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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2016, 07:49:54 pm »
I understand it's a defensive position but you still can't look like a chump at the plate. At the end of the day I guess we don't have a quality all around center fielder.

Four quality CFers

Hitting is separate, and Marisnick is no chump at the plate.
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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2016, 07:50:55 pm »
Four quality CFers

Hitting is separate, and Marisnick is no chump at the plate.
So what do you have to hit to be a chump? .150? Lol.

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« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2016, 07:59:42 pm »
So what do you have to hit to be a chump? .150? Lol.

What is Gattis hitting? Rasmus? Gomez? Worth? Reed?
Are they "chumps?"

My guess is you are a kid who likes the team but does not watch much. Numbers mean more to you than what you see.

There are lots of knowledgeable fans here. You can learn a lot if you read and listen.

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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2016, 08:17:15 pm »
Shouldn't be on the team. Gomez should start in center.
If Jake is such a bad hitter that he shouldn't be on the team then how the fuck should Gomez start? Gomez has been just as bad as hitter this year. If you cut Jake, who takes his place?

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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2016, 08:45:22 pm »
What is Gattis hitting? Rasmus? Gomez? Worth? Reed?
Are they "chumps?"

My guess is you are a kid who likes the team but does not watch much. Numbers mean more to you than what you see.

There are lots of knowledgeable fans here. You can learn a lot if you read and listen.

No more "lol."
Exactly my point. We have a few too many people hitting in the low 200s that start consistently. Don't tell me what I am and what I do because you don't know.

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« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2016, 08:46:16 pm »
If Jake is such a bad hitter that he shouldn't be on the team then how the fuck should Gomez start? Gomez has been just as bad as hitter this year. If you cut Jake, who takes his place?

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Like I stated earlier we don't have a quality all around center fielder.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2016, 08:51:10 pm »
Like I stated earlier we don't have a quality all around center fielder.

Four quality all around CFers. Defensive position.

Talk about hitters separately. Does not matter what position they play.

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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2016, 08:52:25 pm »
Four quality all around CFers. Defensive position.

Talk about hitters separately. Does not matter what position they play.

A kid, for sure.
Still have to be able to hit, bud. Lol..

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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2016, 09:02:16 pm »
Four quality all around CFers. Defensive position.

Talk about hitters separately. Does not matter what position they play.

A kid, for sure.
You still never answered my question. What do you have to hit to be considered a chump? Or not a very good hitter?

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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2016, 09:04:44 pm »
You still never answered my question. What do you have to hit to be considered a chump? Or not a very good hitter?
And you never answered the question. Who replaces Jake?

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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2016, 09:05:56 pm »
And you never answered the question. Who replaces Jake?

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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2016, 09:06:48 pm »
I hope that the team has enough good hitters in the lineup next year that Marisnick can play CF every day. He is fun to watch out there.

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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2016, 09:09:47 pm »
Post #15 since you are illiterate.
You said Gomez should start. That's not what I asked. Gomez is already starting most games. Whose illiterate? I'll ask more specifically this time so you'll understand.  Who replaces Jake as the 4th outfielder?

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« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2016, 09:11:33 pm »
You said Gomez should start. That's not what I asked. Gomez is already starting most games. Whose illiterate? I'll ask more specifically this time so you'll understand.  Who replaces Jake as the 4th outfielder?

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At this point we don't have someone. Unless you throw Marwin out there which I doubt they would do.

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« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2016, 09:12:25 pm »
Still have to be able to hit, bud. Lol..
Okay, we know what you think. Regardless of who agrees or disagrees, there's no need to reiterate or expound further.  If you insist on belaboring your point perhaps you should send an e-mail to Hinch, the guy who can actually do something about it, and complain to him.
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« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2016, 09:13:16 pm »
At this point we don't have someone. Unless you throw Marwin out there which I doubt they would do.
Are we gonna play with a 24 man roster the rest of the season? If Jake is so bad then surely know someone who is better.

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« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2016, 09:15:07 pm »
Are we gonna play with a 24 man roster the rest of the season? If Jake is so bad then surely know someone who is better.

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For all of you who know better than I do, is this an absolute fact?  I always hear that, but I never know why it's stated with such certainty.  Especially since people keep doing it all the time. 

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« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2016, 09:24:48 pm »
Jeff: Hey A.J. I dumped Jake, who did the guy say we should replace him with.
A.J.: Somebody.

I heard Fiers was taking flyballs out there today. He said "hell anybody can hit .200". 

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« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2016, 09:26:01 pm »
You guys act like .200 is going to win you a Silver Slugger. Hahaha.

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« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2016, 09:27:12 pm »
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« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2016, 09:27:20 pm »
You guys act like .200 is going to win you a Silver Slugger. Hahaha.

You act like BA is the only thing that matters in this game.

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« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2016, 09:28:47 pm »
You act like BA is the only thing that matters in this game.
Not the only thing that matters but it is kind of a big deal.

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« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2016, 09:29:43 pm »
Not the only thing that matters but it is kind of a big deal.

Less and less all of the time.

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« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2016, 09:30:33 pm »
For all of you who know better than I do, is this an absolute fact?  I always hear that, but I never know why it's stated with such certainty.  Especially since people keep doing it all the time.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2016, 09:31:00 pm »
You act like BA is the only thing that matters in this game.

What's funny is that he's making a statistics based argument using the very metric stat geeks find most contemptible and meaningless.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2016, 09:31:53 pm »
A.J. : Jeff, I got some guy on the internet who seems to really know a lot about baseball and he says we should dump Jake.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2016, 09:32:11 pm »
Unless the 1B is pulled off the bag by the throw and will only have a chance to get the runner by applying a sweep tag instead of the force, the headfirst slide rarely makes sense, particularly when factoring in the chance for injury.

Thanks.  Makes sense.

But what if the 1B has a good batting average?


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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2016, 09:32:20 pm »
Unless the 1B is pulled off the bag by the throw and will only have a chance to get the runner by applying a sweep tag instead of the force, the headfirst slide rarely makes sense, particularly when factoring in the chance for injury.

Correct.  It doesn't get you there faster.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2016, 09:32:26 pm »
What's funny is that he's making a statistics based argument using the very metric stat geeks find most contemptible and meaningless.

I know but I didn't want to introduce that into this. We'll never get out here.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2016, 09:32:32 pm »
It's faster to run full speed over the bag at firstbase. It is a bit quicker to get into a diving slide than a leg first slide. Another reason to dive head first is to avoid a leg injury but I've seen guys fuck up their fingers and hands diving.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2016, 09:32:42 pm »
Thanks.  Makes sense.

But what if the 1B has a good batting average?



Then you move him to CF, duh.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2016, 09:33:47 pm »
You guys act like .200 is going to win you a Silver Slugger. Hahaha.

A brief summary of all backup outfielders to ever win the Silver Slugger:
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2016, 09:34:11 pm »
You act like BA is the only thing that matters in this game.

He suggested that Marwin should play center over one of the 2-3 outstanding defensive CF options the Astros have on the roster.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2016, 09:36:01 pm »
Correct.  It doesn't get you there faster.

But it looks hustle-ish.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2016, 09:36:02 pm »
He suggested that Marwin should play center over one of the 2-3 outstanding defensive CF options the Astros have on the roster.

We need a higher BA than Marwin in CF.  Put Altuve there.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2016, 09:36:21 pm »
A brief summary of all backup outfielders to ever win the Silver Slugger:
A brief summary of all backup outfielders hitting .200 to not be considered chumps:

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2016, 09:37:29 pm »
He suggested that Marwin should play center over one of the 2-3 outstanding defensive CF options the Astros have on the roster.

I know. That was all I needed to know.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2016, 09:38:23 pm »
A brief summary of all backup outfielders hitting .200 to not be considered chumps:

Do you understand the concept of a defensive specialist?

Check that.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #66 on: July 19, 2016, 09:39:11 pm »
Nice K. I'm done arguing. Enjoy the game fellas.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2016, 09:39:37 pm »
What in Baio's name is going on here tonight?

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2016, 09:39:56 pm »
Do you understand the concept of a defensive specialist?

Check that.

Do you understand the concept of defense?

Check that. 

Do you understand the concept of baseball?

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2016, 09:40:12 pm »
What in Baio's name is going on here tonight?

A Trump delegate got lost on his way to Cleveland.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2016, 09:40:43 pm »
Fucking Marisnick.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #71 on: July 19, 2016, 09:41:03 pm »
Nice K. I'm done arguing. Enjoy the game fellas.

So you're happy an Astros player struck out to (erroneously) prove your point?  Dick

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #72 on: July 19, 2016, 09:41:37 pm »
Ooooh, conspiracy theory time!

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #73 on: July 19, 2016, 09:43:48 pm »
Ooooh, conspiracy theory time!

Fuck, I thought you were going to give some Alex Jones scoop from Cleveland.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #74 on: July 19, 2016, 09:44:28 pm »
Fucking Marisnick.

He just cost the Astros the game with his shitty batting average. Backup defensive center fielders should never lower their batting average in the 2nd inning. Any decent team has someone hidden away on the bench that would start on every other ML club.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #75 on: July 19, 2016, 09:44:48 pm »
Marwin makes that play with a better BA.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #76 on: July 19, 2016, 09:44:58 pm »
Fucking Marisnick.

I think Mrknuckledragger thinks he mic dropped.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #77 on: July 19, 2016, 09:45:19 pm »
So you're happy an Astros player struck out to (erroneously) prove your point?  Dick
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #78 on: July 19, 2016, 09:45:35 pm »
Martin makes that play with a better BA.

Damn you, I was trying to figure out how to set that up.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #79 on: July 19, 2016, 09:45:53 pm »
Marwin makes that play with a better BA.

Beat me to it.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #80 on: July 19, 2016, 09:47:41 pm »
Haha. Call me whatever you want, it doesn't hurt me bud.

C'mon, you're actually HH, right?  Just here to put us all on?  Nobody is really that goofy.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #81 on: July 19, 2016, 09:48:56 pm »
Beat me to it.

That's why Marwin should be in CF.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #82 on: July 19, 2016, 09:49:16 pm »
Colby! Nailed him.


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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #83 on: July 19, 2016, 09:49:38 pm »
Nice throw by Colby!

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #84 on: July 19, 2016, 09:49:39 pm »
C'mon, you're actually HH, right?  Just here to put us all on?  Nobody is really that goofy.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #85 on: July 19, 2016, 09:50:12 pm »
.040 higher batting average enabled Rasmus to make that beautiful throw.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #86 on: July 19, 2016, 09:50:24 pm »
Rasmus raises his batting average by gunning down the runner to end the inning.


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« Reply #87 on: July 19, 2016, 09:51:14 pm »
No but apparently I'm a Dick.

That's what happens when you're the smartest guy in the room.
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« Reply #88 on: July 19, 2016, 09:51:43 pm »
That's what happens when you're the smartest guy in the room.
Cool

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #89 on: July 19, 2016, 09:52:12 pm »
Rasmus raises his batting average by gunning down the runner to end the inning.


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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #90 on: July 19, 2016, 09:55:35 pm »
Springer is hitting .208 over the last month. Chump, put Marwin in both center and right at the same time.

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« Reply #91 on: July 19, 2016, 09:55:50 pm »
Altuve it hitting .350, ergo, he is the best defender in baseball.


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« Reply #92 on: July 19, 2016, 09:56:19 pm »
Springer is hitting .208 over the last month. Chump, put Marwin in both center and right at the same time.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #93 on: July 19, 2016, 09:56:36 pm »
Springer is hitting .208 over the last month. Chump, put Marwin in both center and right at the same time.

All joking aside, we really need him to get going again.
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« Reply #94 on: July 19, 2016, 09:57:17 pm »
So you come in at .350 and raise your average. 
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« Reply #95 on: July 19, 2016, 09:59:02 pm »
Correa makes me grind my teeth.
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« Reply #96 on: July 19, 2016, 10:00:32 pm »
Correa makes me grind my teeth.

Marisnick makes me gnaw my arm off.

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« Reply #97 on: July 19, 2016, 10:01:01 pm »
Marisnick makes me gnaw my arm off.

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« Reply #98 on: July 19, 2016, 10:01:13 pm »
Luis!  Clutch!  Way to pick 'em up

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #99 on: July 19, 2016, 10:01:21 pm »
Valbuena with the rarely seen "bat flip on a single". 1-0.


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« Reply #100 on: July 19, 2016, 10:01:35 pm »
Solid swing by Valbuena.

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« Reply #101 on: July 19, 2016, 10:02:00 pm »
Tip of the cap to Overton on that defensive play.


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« Reply #102 on: July 19, 2016, 10:02:27 pm »
Valbuena with the rarely seen "bat flip on a single". 1-0.


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« Reply #103 on: July 19, 2016, 10:02:34 pm »
I like squirrelly left-handers.  I'm thinking Overton may be as squirrelly as left-handers get.
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« Reply #104 on: July 19, 2016, 10:02:41 pm »
Tip of the cap to Overton on that defensive play.


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« Reply #105 on: July 19, 2016, 10:03:38 pm »
Solid swing by Valbuena.

He used to be a chump.


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« Reply #106 on: July 19, 2016, 10:03:42 pm »
Tip of the cap to Overton on that defensive play.

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« Reply #107 on: July 19, 2016, 10:03:46 pm »
Needs to cut that shit out.

Getting hits?  I'd rather see the bat flip single than a proper gentleman's strikeout.

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« Reply #108 on: July 19, 2016, 10:04:00 pm »
So you come in at .350 and raise your average.

I don't remember Altuve ever being the #1 prospect in the Astros MiL system while he was coming up. Back when the system was pretty bare.

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« Reply #109 on: July 19, 2016, 10:04:36 pm »
That WAS nice.

He doesn't even have a batting average.
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« Reply #110 on: July 19, 2016, 10:05:01 pm »
He used to be a chump.


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« Reply #111 on: July 19, 2016, 10:05:51 pm »
I don't remember Altuve ever being the #1 prospect in the Astros MiL system while he was coming up. Back when the system was pretty bare.

What I remember is the sense that we're so bad we've got no choice but to bring this guy up.  Thank Baio we were that bad.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #112 on: July 19, 2016, 10:08:44 pm »
Getting hits?  I'd rather see the bat flip single than a proper gentleman's strikeout.

Not at all.  I've enjoyed his resurgence and I'm generally fine with walk-off bat flips.  But 3rd inning 2-out RBI singles - while important and impressive - don't qualify (for me). 
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« Reply #113 on: July 19, 2016, 10:10:12 pm »
It's faster to run full speed over the bag at firstbase. It is a bit quicker to get into a diving slide than a leg first slide. Another reason to dive head first is to avoid a leg injury but I've seen guys fuck up their fingers and hands diving.

How did Carlos Hernandez get injured?  Head first or leg first slide?
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« Reply #114 on: July 19, 2016, 10:10:42 pm »
What I remember is the sense that we're so bad we've got no choice but to bring this guy up.  Thank Baio we were that bad.

That sounds right. JD was given the same chance around the same time, although he was more well thought of as far as top prospect lists go. The cream of the crop was considered to be Lyles, Singleton, Villar, Cosart, DDS, IIRC.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #115 on: July 19, 2016, 10:11:29 pm »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the tag ALWAYS required with two outs?

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« Reply #116 on: July 19, 2016, 10:12:00 pm »
How did Carlos Hernandez get injured?  Head first or leg first slide?

Head first. Into 2b.


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How did Carlos Hernandez get injured?  Head first or leg first slide?

I think shoulder first.
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« Reply #118 on: July 19, 2016, 10:13:19 pm »
Head first. Into 2b.


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« Reply #119 on: July 19, 2016, 10:13:52 pm »
That sounds right. JD was given the same chance around the same time, although he was more well thought of as far as top prospect lists go. The cream of the crop was considered to be Lyles, Singleton, Villar, Cosart, DDS, IIRC.

On a better team, I could easily see Altuve bouncing around on trades as the minor league throw in for years, and never really getting to play every day.
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« Reply #120 on: July 19, 2016, 10:15:31 pm »
Wow, nice effort by Davis.
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« Reply #121 on: July 19, 2016, 10:15:42 pm »
On a better team, I could easily see Altuve bouncing around on trades as the minor league throw in for years, and never really getting to play every day.

Makes you wonder how many of those guys are bouncing around out there right now.

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« Reply #122 on: July 19, 2016, 10:16:15 pm »
Marisnick though Mr. Knuckleball was sitting in those seats.


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I do wish Marisnick would get more hits too.  But, it is selfish on my part because I like looking at him.
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Marisnick though Mr. Knuckleball was sitting in those seats.


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Marisnick though Mr. Knuckleball was sitting in those seats.


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I do wish Marisnick would get more hits too.  But, it is selfish on my part because I like looking at him.

You have a special place for guys who can't hit, don't you?
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If Beane had any $$ to spend Oakland might be pretty good.

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You have a special place for guys who can't hit, don't you?

They are always good defenders!
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« Reply #130 on: July 19, 2016, 10:28:53 pm »
Springer Dinger!

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« Reply #131 on: July 19, 2016, 10:29:24 pm »
All joking aside, we really need him to get going again.

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« Reply #132 on: July 19, 2016, 10:30:19 pm »
asked and received

You did that, didn't you.
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Hey, Ashby, while people are apologizing for inappropriate behavior last night, why don't you get in on the action?
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« Reply #134 on: July 19, 2016, 10:31:35 pm »
i'm responsible for all the good things that happen to the Astros.
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« Reply #135 on: July 19, 2016, 10:32:39 pm »
Hey, Ashby, while people are apologizing for inappropriate behavior last night, why don't you get in on the action?

Are you watching the RNC?
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« Reply #136 on: July 19, 2016, 10:32:50 pm »
I find it insulting that people mention Ian Desmond in the same MVP conversation with Altuve.
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Are you watching the RNC?

I watched a little bit, but it truly scares the shit out of me.  I am quite sincere about being scared.
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Are you watching the RNC?

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I find it insulting that people mention Ian Desmond in the same MVP conversation with Altuve.

You must be watching the RNC.
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I watched a little bit, but it truly scares the shit out of me.  I am quite sincere about being scared.

People all over the country are already pissed at Texas. I wonder what they're going to think after they get a face full of Dan Patrick.
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« Reply #141 on: July 19, 2016, 10:38:11 pm »
People all over the country are already pissed at Texas. I wonder what they're going to think after they get a face full of Dan Patrick.

Is Dan Patrick a speaker?  He's presidential material.
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« Reply #142 on: July 19, 2016, 10:40:28 pm »
Is Dan Patrick a speaker?  He's presidential material.

Of course his BA sucks.
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Gattis is a far better catcher than we could have expected.
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« Reply #144 on: July 19, 2016, 10:44:33 pm »
Holy Jesus, what the fuck did I miss?!
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« Reply #145 on: July 19, 2016, 10:45:00 pm »
Keuchel pitching like he did last year. Nice to see.

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Gattis is a far better catcher than we could have expected.

Yeah, and his batting average isn't even that good.

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« Reply #147 on: July 19, 2016, 10:46:01 pm »
Keuchel pitching like he did last year. Nice to see.

You stupid, jinxing cocksucker. I swear to Baio, if Dallas melts down in the next inning I will come to your house and beat you to death with an Evan Gattis gnome.
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You stupid, jinxing cocksucker. I swear to Baio, if Dallas melts down in the next inning I will come to your house and beat you to death with an Evan Gattis gnome.

That's always your contribution to the GZ: tasteful repartee.
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« Reply #149 on: July 19, 2016, 10:48:43 pm »
You stupid, jinxing cocksucker. I swear to Baio, if Dallas melts down in the next inning I will come to your house and beat you to death with an Evan Gattis gnome.
Calm down buddy. It's not the end of the world.

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« Reply #150 on: July 19, 2016, 10:49:46 pm »
You stupid, jinxing cocksucker. I swear to Baio, if Dallas melts down in the next inning I will come to your house and beat you to death with an Evan Gattis gnome.
Mainly that marisnick needs to get cut because he's hitting .200 but Gomez should start because he's hitting .212

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Between their catcher, outfielders, and shortstop, the A's have some real noodle-arms out there.
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« Reply #152 on: July 19, 2016, 10:51:01 pm »
Calm down buddy. It's not the end of the world.

Which piece of shit Canadian are you? Terrence or Phillip?
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« Reply #153 on: July 19, 2016, 10:51:13 pm »
Calm down buddy. It's not the end of the world.

That was calm.
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« Reply #154 on: July 19, 2016, 10:52:20 pm »
Between their catcher, outfielders, and shortstop, the A's have some real noodle-arms out there.

No kidding.  The guy behind the plate almost acts too scared to even try to throw to 2nd.

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« Reply #155 on: July 19, 2016, 10:52:32 pm »
Which piece of shit Canadian are you? Terrence or Phillip?
Easy buddy. You wouldn't wanna raise your blood pressure.

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« Reply #156 on: July 19, 2016, 10:53:04 pm »
This has been an entertaining thread. I usually have to wade through Shaggybevo's Astros thread to see that much stupid spread over eight pages.

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« Reply #157 on: July 19, 2016, 10:53:38 pm »
Between their catcher, outfielders, and shortstop, the A's have some real noodle-arms out there.

But look at the OF batting averages. The A's outfield would be an upgrade at every position! Let's set up the conference call!

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« Reply #158 on: July 19, 2016, 10:54:02 pm »
Some Angel just jacked a 3-run shot to take a 2-run lead over the Arlington shitheads.
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« Reply #159 on: July 19, 2016, 10:54:18 pm »
Easy buddy. You wouldn't wanna raise your blood pressure.

My blood pressure is fine. I'm hoping I might raise your IQ a point or two. But then again: wish in one hand, shit in the other... Right?
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Holy Jesus, what the fuck did I miss?!

The emergence of a new fucking idiot.
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« Reply #161 on: July 19, 2016, 10:55:36 pm »
My blood pressure is fine. I'm hoping I might raise your IQ a point or two. But then again: wish in one hand, shit in the other... Right?
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« Reply #162 on: July 19, 2016, 10:56:58 pm »
You do all the right things buddy. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise okay?

You gotta quit calling people buddy.  You gotta quite writing ha ha.   It's kinda weird.
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« Reply #163 on: July 19, 2016, 10:57:12 pm »
You do all the right things buddy. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise okay?

I can promise you I don't need some fuckstick 19 year old that thinks he's hot shit validating my existence. Do everyone else here a favor and fuck off. You're a goddamn idiot.
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« Reply #164 on: July 19, 2016, 10:57:37 pm »
You do all the right things buddy. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise okay?

You are going to set a new GZ record for getting run out of here. Isn't this a school night?
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« Reply #165 on: July 19, 2016, 10:58:04 pm »
You gotta quit calling people buddy.  You gotta quite writing ha ha.   It's kinda weird.

Neil,  get rid of that e, it bothers me and lowers your BA.
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« Reply #166 on: July 19, 2016, 10:58:23 pm »
I can promise you I don't need some fuckstick 19 year old that thinks he's hot shit validating my existence. Do everyone else here a favor and fuck off. You're a goddamn idiot.
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« Reply #167 on: July 19, 2016, 10:59:05 pm »
Isn't bingo already over? Why are you still awake?

This is your big burn? Wow. You're even dumber than I thought, and that in and of itself is impressive.
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« Reply #168 on: July 19, 2016, 10:59:11 pm »
I think he got the Raups mixed up.
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« Reply #169 on: July 19, 2016, 11:00:08 pm »
Neil,  get rid of that e, it bothers me and lowers your BA.

Ok, but a batting average of Nil really sucks.
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« Reply #170 on: July 19, 2016, 11:00:17 pm »
I think he got the Raups mixed up.
In fairness mark is much more of the "get off my lawn" type

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« Reply #171 on: July 19, 2016, 11:00:24 pm »
This is your big burn? Wow. You're even dumber than I thought, and that in and of itself is impressive.
That hurt. Not.

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« Reply #172 on: July 19, 2016, 11:00:59 pm »
In fairness mark is much more of the "get off my lawn" type

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« Reply #173 on: July 19, 2016, 11:01:36 pm »
That hurt. Not.

Wow, reverted to 1995 cool kid talk, huh?

Maybe you're not young. You're just a fucking moron.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #174 on: July 19, 2016, 11:01:48 pm »
I think he got the Raups mixed up.

I am laughing over here about that.

What a dumbass. Will Waldo take him out soon?
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #175 on: July 19, 2016, 11:02:17 pm »
Marisnick's at bat.  Let's sit back and watch the game.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #176 on: July 19, 2016, 11:02:36 pm »
I am laughing over here about that.

What a dumbass. Will Waldo take him out soon?

Have you MET Waldo?

We need a vengeful Hudson.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #177 on: July 19, 2016, 11:03:00 pm »
I am laughing over here about that.

What a dumbass. Will Waldo take him out soon?

I kind of hope not, I've laughed a lot tonight.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #178 on: July 19, 2016, 11:03:13 pm »
Ok, but a batting average of Nil really sucks.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #179 on: July 19, 2016, 11:03:26 pm »
Wow, reverted to 1995 cool kid talk, huh?

Maybe you're not young. You're just a fucking moron.
You seem a little too mad. Calm down.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #180 on: July 19, 2016, 11:04:20 pm »
Wow, reverted to 1995 cool kid talk, huh?

Maybe you're not young. You're just a fucking moron.

Wow.  I guess he and Borat got that 'not joke' lesson.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #181 on: July 19, 2016, 11:04:30 pm »
You seem a little too mad. Calm down.

That was calm.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #183 on: July 19, 2016, 11:04:55 pm »
You seem a little too mad. Calm down.

Fuck off.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #184 on: July 19, 2016, 11:05:05 pm »

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #185 on: July 19, 2016, 11:05:42 pm »
You seem a little too mad. Calm down.

I'm good, thanks. I have mild hope you'll eventually say something funny or at least worth some real rage. But so far you're just another tired fucking loser trying to play at being cool while looking like a total cheesedick.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #186 on: July 19, 2016, 11:05:56 pm »
Have you MET Waldo?

We need a vengeful Hudson.

I still think it is Hudson.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #187 on: July 19, 2016, 11:06:00 pm »
Where is HH? He needs to weigh in on Marwin in CF.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #188 on: July 19, 2016, 11:06:37 pm »
I think he is in India.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #189 on: July 19, 2016, 11:06:50 pm »
Nice catch by Crisp.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #190 on: July 19, 2016, 11:07:15 pm »
I still think it is Hudson.

Nah. Hudson is way more clever than this dingleberry.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #191 on: July 19, 2016, 11:07:26 pm »
Where is HH? He needs to weigh in on Marwin in CF.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #192 on: July 19, 2016, 11:08:07 pm »
Shit, now I have to stay up one more inning to see Altuve go for the cycle.
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« Reply #193 on: July 19, 2016, 11:08:15 pm »
I'm good, thanks. I have mild hope you'll eventually say something funny or at least worth some real rage. But so far you're just another tired fucking loser trying to play at being cool while looking like a total cheesedick.
You have all kinds of names to call people in that vocabulary of yours. Do you feel special?

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #194 on: July 19, 2016, 11:08:57 pm »
I still think it is Hudson.

Mr. K is HH? I do not think he could be this stupid even pretending.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #195 on: July 19, 2016, 11:09:01 pm »
Shit, now I have to stay up one more inning to see Altuve go for the cycle.

Are you one of those that leaves a game early?
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #196 on: July 19, 2016, 11:09:44 pm »
You have all kinds of names to call people in that vocabulary of yours. Do you feel special?

Not really. I've used them on plenty of numbfucks previously, and I'll use them on plenty more twiddledicks after you move on to the Minecraft forums.
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« Reply #197 on: July 19, 2016, 11:09:46 pm »
Are you one of those that leaves a game early?

I'm one of those who has to get up early tomorrow.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #198 on: July 19, 2016, 11:09:52 pm »
Mr. K is HH? I do not think he could be this stupid even pretending.

I think this is when you hear that line, "Even Shakespeare couldn't write this"

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« Reply #199 on: July 19, 2016, 11:10:19 pm »
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« Reply #200 on: July 19, 2016, 11:10:22 pm »
Shit, now I have to stay up one more inning to see Altuve go for the cycle.

Altuve is going for the cycle?  He'll hit an in-the-park home-run and trip around 3rd.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #201 on: July 19, 2016, 11:10:26 pm »
Mr. K is HH? I do not think he could be this stupid even pretending.
He would have let something clever slip by now

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #202 on: July 19, 2016, 11:10:49 pm »
Not really. I've used them on plenty of numbfucks previously, and I'll use them on plenty more twiddledicks after you move on to the Minecraft forums.
You seem way too mad about what someone has to say to you on the Internet. Is your life really that boring?

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« Reply #203 on: July 19, 2016, 11:11:11 pm »
Altuve is going for the cycle?  He'll hit an in-the-park home-run and trip around 3rd.

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« Reply #204 on: July 19, 2016, 11:11:50 pm »
You seem way too mad about what someone has to say to you on the Internet. Is your life really that boring?

He's a priest.  All he does is listen to other people's confessions.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #205 on: July 19, 2016, 11:12:36 pm »
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« Reply #206 on: July 19, 2016, 11:12:48 pm »
He's a priest.  All he does is listen to other people's confessions.
That's wonderful.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #207 on: July 19, 2016, 11:13:56 pm »
Fucking Shift!  (since HH isn't here tonight)

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #208 on: July 19, 2016, 11:14:09 pm »
You seem way too mad about what someone has to say to you on the Internet. Is your life really that boring?

This is not "the Internet." This is OWA. There is a difference.
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« Reply #209 on: July 19, 2016, 11:14:26 pm »
That's wonderful.

Yes.  It's no wonder he's so angry.
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« Reply #210 on: July 19, 2016, 11:15:04 pm »
That's wonderful.

Care to confess anything my son?

Spare us the boring shit. Tell us the truth. How old are you? Is your first name Chris? Is your last name Correa? Are you posting from prison?
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« Reply #211 on: July 19, 2016, 11:15:30 pm »
Yes.  It's no wonder he's so angry.

Of course if Keuchel walks this batter he'll really be angry.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #212 on: July 19, 2016, 11:15:55 pm »
Strom's a trooper.

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« Reply #213 on: July 19, 2016, 11:16:33 pm »
Yes.  It's no wonder he's so angry.
Maybe he is a priest. Asking people for personal information...

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #215 on: July 19, 2016, 11:18:02 pm »
Giles?

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« Reply #216 on: July 19, 2016, 11:18:04 pm »
Maybe he is a priest. Asking people for personal information...

Catholic priests do not do this.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #217 on: July 19, 2016, 11:18:23 pm »
Butler or Pujols, who is slower?
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« Reply #218 on: July 19, 2016, 11:18:32 pm »
Maybe he is a priest. Asking people for personal information...

Don't take it personally. He'd say the same stuff to you regardless of who you are.
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« Reply #219 on: July 19, 2016, 11:18:56 pm »
Butler or Pujols, who is slower?

I'd have to go with Pujols nowadays.
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« Reply #220 on: July 19, 2016, 11:19:18 pm »
Don't take it personally. He'd say the same stuff to you regardless of who you are.
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« Reply #221 on: July 19, 2016, 11:19:40 pm »
Catholic priests do not do this.
Ok

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« Reply #222 on: July 19, 2016, 11:21:26 pm »
Fuck fuck fuck.

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« Reply #223 on: July 19, 2016, 11:21:27 pm »
Well, that was unhelpful.
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« Reply #224 on: July 19, 2016, 11:21:35 pm »
Well shit.

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« Reply #225 on: July 19, 2016, 11:23:06 pm »
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« Reply #226 on: July 19, 2016, 11:23:21 pm »
Nice work Ash. I know their batting averages are close, but that's clearly Marisnik in CF.
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« Reply #227 on: July 19, 2016, 11:23:38 pm »
I wish Ashby paid attention to who is playing on the field.  He obviously never scores a game.  I'd also like to thank Giles for his outing tonight.
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« Reply #228 on: July 19, 2016, 11:24:10 pm »
Ashby just now realized Marisnick started in center today. Must not be following the GZ.

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« Reply #229 on: July 19, 2016, 11:25:11 pm »
I hate Ashby. 
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« Reply #230 on: July 19, 2016, 11:25:37 pm »
Ashby just now realized Marisnick started in center today. Must not be following the GZ.

Or he's been brow beaten by the idiocy here tonight and just assumed that Gomez is out there due to his superior BA.
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« Reply #231 on: July 19, 2016, 11:26:19 pm »
I hate Ashby.

You need to be concentrating on Giles.
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« Reply #232 on: July 19, 2016, 11:27:24 pm »
That was nice.
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« Reply #233 on: July 19, 2016, 11:27:34 pm »
Marwin with a SPECTACULAR pick to keep it 3-2 Good Guys.
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« Reply #234 on: July 19, 2016, 11:27:37 pm »
Good scoop by Marwin.

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« Reply #235 on: July 19, 2016, 11:27:51 pm »
You need to be concentrating on Giles.

I blame Ashby, he weakens my powers for good.
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« Reply #236 on: July 19, 2016, 11:27:55 pm »
Damn!! I stopped breathing on that out....

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« Reply #237 on: July 19, 2016, 11:28:05 pm »
That was nice.

Giles hit that ball with his hand, right?
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« Reply #238 on: July 19, 2016, 11:28:13 pm »
Marwin with a SPECTACULAR pick to keep it 3-2 Good Guys.

In CF?

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« Reply #239 on: July 19, 2016, 11:28:16 pm »
You need to be concentrating on Giles.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #240 on: July 19, 2016, 11:28:36 pm »
I blame Ashby, he weakens my powers for good.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #241 on: July 19, 2016, 11:28:48 pm »
Giles hit that ball with his hand, right?

I believe so.  I was sure that was going to cause it to be a hit.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #242 on: July 19, 2016, 11:28:59 pm »
Giles hit that ball with his hand, right?

I don't think so.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #243 on: July 19, 2016, 11:29:16 pm »
In CF?
His BA allows him to play both

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #244 on: July 19, 2016, 11:29:46 pm »
Here we go.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #245 on: July 19, 2016, 11:29:47 pm »
If you had Julia's blue eyes, you'd really be in trouble.

I guess mine aren't blue enough.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #246 on: July 19, 2016, 11:30:00 pm »
I don't think so.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #247 on: July 19, 2016, 11:30:17 pm »
I love Blummer.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #248 on: July 19, 2016, 11:30:19 pm »
Whatever happens in this Altuve at-bat is because of Austro.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #249 on: July 19, 2016, 11:31:08 pm »
At Bat says yes.

I replayed it but it looked liked it missed, but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #250 on: July 19, 2016, 11:32:55 pm »
Whatever happens in this Altuve at-bat is because of Austro.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #251 on: July 19, 2016, 11:33:49 pm »
That would have been a "natural" cycle.  single, double, triple, HR in order. 

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #252 on: July 19, 2016, 11:54:11 pm »
That got interesting.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #253 on: July 19, 2016, 11:54:29 pm »
Exhale
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #254 on: July 19, 2016, 11:55:09 pm »
"I think not having the estate tax recognizes the people that are investing... as opposed to those that are just spending every darn penny they have, whether it’s on booze or women or movies.”  Charles Grassley

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #255 on: July 19, 2016, 11:56:24 pm »

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #256 on: July 19, 2016, 11:57:28 pm »
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #257 on: July 20, 2016, 12:03:59 am »
apparently a Rangers pitcher hit Pujols in the face, he was on the ground.

https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/755622437551742978

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #258 on: July 20, 2016, 12:06:18 am »
apparently a Rangers pitcher hit Pujols in the face, he was on the ground.

https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/755622437551742978

Damn.  Hope he's ok.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #259 on: July 20, 2016, 12:08:45 am »
apparently a Rangers pitcher hit Pujols in the face, he was on the ground.

https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/755622437551742978

Watched the replay. Hit off the rim of the helmet. Still had to hurt like fuck. Was smiling at first within a minute or so. Pujols is one tough mofo.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #260 on: July 20, 2016, 12:11:16 am »
This A's team is so tough to put away.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #261 on: July 20, 2016, 12:13:41 am »
Wow

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #262 on: July 20, 2016, 12:13:55 am »
FUCK

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #263 on: July 20, 2016, 12:14:16 am »
Coco Crisp = idiot.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #264 on: July 20, 2016, 12:14:20 am »
I thought the game was over. Fuck

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #265 on: July 20, 2016, 12:18:05 am »
Lucky to still be in this game. I would have loved extra sleep instead of innings tonight...

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #266 on: July 20, 2016, 12:18:06 am »
So many extra innings this year

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #267 on: July 20, 2016, 12:18:47 am »
Isn't Altuve due up?

I'm just saying...

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #268 on: July 20, 2016, 12:27:21 am »
Just another ho-hum 4-5 night.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #269 on: July 20, 2016, 12:29:37 am »
There's a gift.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #270 on: July 20, 2016, 12:29:58 am »
There's a gift.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #271 on: July 20, 2016, 12:34:31 am »
Goddammit Gomez

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #272 on: July 20, 2016, 12:34:52 am »
Well that ended quickly...

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #273 on: July 20, 2016, 12:35:00 am »
Got a guy that just 4 pitch walks the lefty he was suppose to get out and you groundout on the first pitch.  Fantastic

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #274 on: July 20, 2016, 12:35:12 am »
Marisnick would have gotten the hit.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #275 on: July 20, 2016, 12:35:47 am »
I hate it when a guy swings at the first pitch after a 4 pitch walk to the previous batter

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #276 on: July 20, 2016, 12:36:04 am »
Got a guy that just 4 pitch walks the lefty he was suppose to get out and you groundout on the first pitch.  Fantastic

How else is supposed to raise his BA?

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #277 on: July 20, 2016, 12:46:42 am »
Remember when Sipp used to be good?

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #278 on: July 20, 2016, 12:47:08 am »
This is escalating quickly...

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #279 on: July 20, 2016, 12:49:01 am »
I hate the shift

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #280 on: July 20, 2016, 12:49:08 am »
WTF?  He scored from second on a infield single?

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #281 on: July 20, 2016, 12:49:12 am »
Motherfucker.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #282 on: July 20, 2016, 12:49:27 am »
2 outs again.  ugh.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #283 on: July 20, 2016, 12:49:47 am »
WTF?  He scored from second on a infield single?

it was 2 outs he was running.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #284 on: July 20, 2016, 12:50:40 am »
it was 2 outs he was running.

Did Correa hesitate before realizing he was on his way home? 

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #285 on: July 20, 2016, 12:50:42 am »
What should have been a routine grounder to short is a game winning. How about that.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #286 on: July 20, 2016, 12:50:50 am »
it was 2 outs he was running.

How?

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #287 on: July 20, 2016, 12:50:54 am »
Great send by Washington. Shitty loss.

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« Reply #288 on: July 20, 2016, 12:52:14 am »
Great send by Washington. Shitty loss.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #289 on: July 20, 2016, 12:53:09 am »
Not sure what Correa was doing out there. He had the time to set his feet and throw but he was sorta lost out there.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #290 on: July 20, 2016, 12:53:19 am »
How?

ETA we do not have a closer

Yeah, Harris hasn't been as sharp since he took over the closer duties.  He seems like Gregerson in that regard.  And Giles is still too hittable.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #291 on: July 20, 2016, 12:53:44 am »
Not sure what Correa was doing out there. He had the time to set his feet and throw but he was sorta lost out there.

He pulled a Coco.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #292 on: July 20, 2016, 12:57:27 am »
Might try Devenski as a closer.  He has a lot of fire in him.  Could be good for the role. 

ETA.  It would mean you definitely need to remove Fiers from the rotation.  With Devenski in short relief and Feliz struggling, they wouldn't have enough long arms to make of for the consistent short starts
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #293 on: July 20, 2016, 12:57:56 am »
A's have won 4 of last 6 in this series and it was real close to 5/6 save the 2-out Valbuena HR in Houston. Missed opportunities.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #294 on: July 20, 2016, 01:01:17 am »
A's have won 4 of last 6 in this series and it was real close to 5/6 save the 2-out Valbuena HR in Houston. Missed opportunities.

These are the teams you have to beat.  This sucks.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #295 on: July 20, 2016, 01:04:02 am »
Might try Devenski as a closer.  He has a lot of fire in him.  Could be good for the role. 

ETA.  It would mean you definitely need to remove Fiers from the rotation.  With Devenski in short relief and Feliz struggling, they wouldn't have enough long arms to make of for the consistent short starts

Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing Devenski, now that you mention it.  Forgot about him.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #296 on: July 20, 2016, 01:09:26 am »
This team looks like it's a heartbeat away from starting to lose games in bunches...
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #297 on: July 20, 2016, 01:20:33 am »
This team looks like it's a heartbeat away from starting to lose games in bunches...

Think it's time for a call up of somebody that might bring a little excitement.  And that's Bregman.  Slide Valbueana to first, move Marwin to DH/left.  Let Reed go take his cup of coffee experience to AAA and work on things. 

I think we will see something done on the off day Thursday.  Win or lose tomorrow.
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« Reply #298 on: July 20, 2016, 01:26:15 am »
There's a few real talking points in this game for sure.
Is will Harris the best we have for closer?
Should keuchel have been allowed to pitch in the 7th?
Why was nobody warming up at least to begin the 7th?
How many games has the shift won or lost?
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #299 on: July 20, 2016, 06:42:30 am »
You gotta blame this game on the 4th outfielder.
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« Reply #300 on: July 20, 2016, 08:39:50 am »
God damnit. I'll never get back the 30 minutes I just took to read this entire thread after the fact, but thanks for the laughs. In retrospect, I should have been more curt and told MrsKnuckleball to STFU at the very beginning. My bad.
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« Reply #301 on: July 20, 2016, 09:16:01 am »
God damnit. I'll never get back the 30 minutes I just took to read this entire thread after the fact, but thanks for the laughs. In retrospect, I should have been more curt and told MrsKnuckleball to STFU at the very beginning. My bad.
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« Reply #302 on: July 20, 2016, 09:16:27 am »
God damnit. I'll never get back the 30 minutes I just took to read this entire thread after the fact, but thanks for the laughs. In retrospect, I should have been more curt and told MrsKnuckleball to STFU at the very beginning. My bad.

I've come around to believing that Knucklehead is an inside job. Where has HH been?
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« Reply #303 on: July 20, 2016, 09:19:30 am »
I've come around to believing that Knucklehead is an inside job. Where has HH been?
I love conspiracy theories.

It may well have been an inside job, but Hudson's wit and intelligence would have prohibited him from being as dumb as Knucklehead.
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« Reply #304 on: July 20, 2016, 09:23:01 am »
There's a few real talking points in this game for sure.
Is will Harris the best we have for closer?
Should keuchel have been allowed to pitch in the 7th?
Why was nobody warming up at least to begin the 7th?
How many games has the shift won or lost?
What the fuck was that knuckleball guy talking about?

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Harris is the best we have for closer and he's been near perfect in that role. Nothing else can be expected out of him. Giles has the stuff but not ready for that role. I hope he will be in time. The front office and Hinch have all of the data many times over on the shift. They wouldn't do it if the results didn't justify it.  I suspect Keuchel has a lot of input into his in-game status.

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« Reply #305 on: July 20, 2016, 09:24:05 am »
It may well have been an inside job, but Hudson's wit and intelligence would have prohibited him from being as dumb as Knucklehead.

A brilliant disguise. It takes intelligence to act that dumb.

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« Reply #306 on: July 20, 2016, 09:27:47 am »
The front office and Hinch have all of the data many times over on the shift. They wouldn't do it if the results didn't justify it. 

This is self-evident yet constantly ignored.
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« Reply #307 on: July 20, 2016, 09:31:45 am »
Harris is the best we have for closer and he's been near perfect in that role. Nothing else can be expected out of him. Giles has the stuff but not ready for that role. I hope he will be in time. The front office and Hinch have all of the data many times over on the shift. They wouldn't do it if the results didn't justify it.  I suspect Keuchel has a lot of input into his in-game status.

I agree on all scores. Giles is the closer-in-waiting, but he's not ready yet. I'm not a big fan of the shifts, unless they work, which is self-serving and monday morning quarterbacking. However, the stats don't lie, and the shifts work more often than not. There are some really good hitters that you want to avoid shifting on though.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #308 on: July 20, 2016, 09:41:04 am »
None of us have access to the shift data, and even if we did, it is not as if legitimate interpretations couldn't exist at the same time.  It's not like a branch of science with objectively correct answers.  The idea that "they do it, so it must be right" is terribly misplaced.  As evidence, if they altered their strategy today (as they likely have done many times), would they have still been right yesterday? 

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #309 on: July 20, 2016, 09:48:25 am »
None of us have access to the shift data, and even if we did, it is not as if legitimate interpretations couldn't exist at the same time.  It's not like a branch of science with objectively correct answers.  The idea that "they do it, so it must be right" is terribly misplaced.  As evidence, if they altered their strategy today (as they likely have done many times), would they have still been right yesterday?

I don't disagree with you. If I was pitching, I'd piss and moan about them until they saved my ass, which is unfair criticism in my opinion. If you live by the shift, you have to be prepared to die by it. There must be some very compelling data to justify shifting against certain players. But again, hitters who have good bat control shouldn't be shifted against. You'd never shift against Tony Gwynn, for example,
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #310 on: July 20, 2016, 09:49:41 am »
I don't disagree with you. If I was pitching, I'd piss and moan about them until they saved my ass, which is unfair criticism in my opinion. If you live by the shift, you have to be prepared to die by it. There must be some very compelling data to justify shifting against certain players. But again, hitters who have good bat control shouldn't be shifted against. You'd never shift against Tony Gwynn, for example,

Right.  And they don't shift against everyone.  They're making the best decision they can based on the data available to them.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #311 on: July 20, 2016, 09:53:51 am »
Right.  And they don't shift against everyone.  They're making the best decision they can based on the data available to them.

Exactly.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #312 on: July 20, 2016, 10:10:26 am »
God damnit. I'll never get back the 30 minutes I just took to read this entire thread after the fact, but thanks for the laughs. In retrospect, I should have been more curt and told MrsKnuckleball to STFU at the very beginning. My bad.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #313 on: July 20, 2016, 10:15:08 am »
God damnit. I'll never get back the 30 minutes I just took to read this entire thread after the fact, but thanks for the laughs. In retrospect, I should have been more curt and told MrsKnuckleball to STFU at the very beginning. My bad.

You would have just encouraged him.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #314 on: July 20, 2016, 10:16:42 am »
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #315 on: July 20, 2016, 10:16:55 am »
Well hopefully we will get a win today and get back on track at home against LA.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #316 on: July 20, 2016, 10:17:35 am »
McTaggart posted these Altuve numbers last night:  In the last 23 road games he is hitting .500  49/98.


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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #317 on: July 20, 2016, 10:17:42 am »
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #318 on: July 20, 2016, 10:19:19 am »
McTaggart posted these Altuve numbers last night:  In the last 23 road games he is hitting .500  49/98.

Why isn't he out in CF? He clearly hits too well to play 2B.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #319 on: July 20, 2016, 10:21:55 am »
The fan favorite around these parts Marisnick went 0 for 4 with 2 Ks last night. All the way down to .194. And it's such a mystery why he doesn't play a lot.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #320 on: July 20, 2016, 10:23:43 am »
The fan favorite around these parts Marisnick went 0 for 4 with 2 Ks last night. All the way down to .194. And it's such a mystery why he doesn't play a lot.

What part of there was a lefty on the mound last night don't you get?
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #321 on: July 20, 2016, 10:25:30 am »
What part of there was a lefty on the mound last night don't you get?
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #322 on: July 20, 2016, 10:25:44 am »
What part of there was a lefty on the mound last night don't you get?

And using a single game's performance as his ammo.  It's not a sprint, it's a marathon.  162 games.


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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #323 on: July 20, 2016, 10:27:41 am »
And using a single game's performance as his ammo.  It's not a sprint, it's a marathon.  162 games.
Yeah because that .194 average is for a single game right?

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #324 on: July 20, 2016, 10:30:21 am »
Yeah because that .194 average is for a single game right?

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #325 on: July 20, 2016, 10:32:52 am »
I am going to give you some semi-friendly advice: cut this shit out now. there is a force named Spack who will blast your ass and ban you if you do not.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #326 on: July 20, 2016, 10:35:39 am »
Yeah because that .194 average is for a single game right?

You missed the part about what he's hit lately, right?  And that you need to give players playing time to keep them from getting rusty?  And that it's no coincidence that his improved hitting has been while he's been playing more? 

And this is ignoring the fact he's one of the best outfielders in the game.  In center field. 

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #327 on: July 20, 2016, 10:39:56 am »
You missed the part about what he's hit lately, right?  And that you need to give players playing time to keep them from getting rusty?  And that it's no coincidence that his improved hitting has been while he's been playing more? 

And this is ignoring the fact he's one of the best outfielders in the game.  In center field.
This guy played 133 games last year and didn't hit much better. So the rusty factor and playing time don't really matter there. Anyway we're going to have to agree to disagree. Let's get a win today and it will all be alright.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #328 on: July 20, 2016, 10:59:47 am »
This guy played 133 games last year and didn't hit much better. So the rusty factor and playing time don't really matter there. Anyway we're going to have to agree to disagree. Let's get a win today and it will all be alright.

A simple stat that may ease your mind is WAR.  Takes into account both defense and offense.  Marisnick is a +0.3.  And that is because he is a +1 defensively.  Now Gomez on the other hand has a -0.3 WAR.  Because he's average defensively and has been horrendous at the plate.  No one is going to defend Gomez though so you might as well stop typing.




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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #329 on: July 20, 2016, 11:02:47 am »
We're past that.

What the fuck does this mean? *WE* are all past it, but *YOU* keep bringing it up as if you have some how been vindicated. CarGo went 0 for 5 with 6 LOB including the shitty at bat in the 10th.

You may think you've found some kind of acceptance with MM's humorous recap and the general civility this morning. Just to be clear, however, we are laughing at you not with you.
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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #330 on: July 20, 2016, 11:50:14 am »
A simple stat that may ease your mind is WAR.  Takes into account both defense and offense.  Marisnick is a +0.3.  And that is because he is a +1 defensively.  Now Gomez on the other hand has a -0.3 WAR.  Because he's average defensively and has been horrendous at the plate.  No one is going to defend Gomez though so you might as well stop typing.
That's not saying much over Gomez but I see what you are getting at.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #331 on: July 20, 2016, 02:35:03 pm »
That sounds right. JD was given the same chance around the same time, although he was more well thought of as far as top prospect lists go. The cream of the crop was considered to be Lyles, Singleton, Villar, Cosart, DDS, IIRC.
This should probably be in the TZ, but here goes.

Altuve came up in 2011.  The BA Pre-Season Top 10 that year were: Lyles, DeShields, Villar, Foltynewicz, Mier, Martinez, Paredes, Bushue, Wates, Ovando.  The MLB Post-Season Top 10 were Cosart, Singleton, Villar, Foltynewicz, Clemens, DeShields, Bushue, Oberholtzer, Wates, Santana.

The projected 2014 lineup was:
C - Castro
1B - Wallace
2B - DeShields
3B - Johnson
SS - Villar
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Rotation - Lyles, Rodriguez, Foltynewicz, Myers, Happ
Closer - Norris

Misses of note:
Feliz at GCL
Houser at Greeneville
Duffy, & Tropeano (& Springer in his draft year) at Tri-City
Keuchel (& Altuve to start the season) at Corpus


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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #332 on: July 20, 2016, 03:26:20 pm »
This should probably be in the TZ, but here goes.

Altuve came up in 2011.  The BA Pre-Season Top 10 that year were: Lyles, DeShields, Villar, Foltynewicz, Mier, Martinez, Paredes, Bushue, Wates, Ovando.  The MLB Post-Season Top 10 were Cosart, Singleton, Villar, Foltynewicz, Clemens, DeShields, Bushue, Oberholtzer, Wates, Santana.

The projected 2014 lineup was:
C - Castro
1B - Wallace
2B - DeShields
3B - Johnson
SS - Villar
OF - Martinez, Bourn, Pence
Rotation - Lyles, Rodriguez, Foltynewicz, Myers, Happ
Closer - Norris

Misses of note:
Feliz at GCL
Houser at Greeneville
Duffy, & Tropeano (& Springer in his draft year) at Tri-City
Keuchel (& Altuve to start the season) at Corpus


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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #333 on: July 20, 2016, 04:19:49 pm »
Did Correa hesitate before realizing he was on his way home?

From the SF Chronicle game report:

Washington was almost right up on the third-base bag when Correa was making the play and Correa looked Washington’s way initially, almost as if he thought Washington was the baserunner. None of the Astros thought Washington’s positioning was an issue, and Washington often moves up toward the runner if he wants him to go hard. “One I committed myself to not stopping Marcus, I ran up to him,” Washington said of moving up toward the bag. “That probably threw Correa off, seeing me there. But I was just going up to tell Marcus, ‘Go all the way. You gotta go.’ ” Washington hangs back if he believes he might have to change his mind and throw up a late stop sign. But if the shortstop catches a glimpse of the base coach and is distracted, well, “That’s the breaks,” Washington said.


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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #334 on: July 20, 2016, 07:58:37 pm »
This should probably be in the TZ, but here goes.

Altuve came up in 2011.  The BA Pre-Season Top 10 that year were: Lyles, DeShields, Villar, Foltynewicz, Mier, Martinez, Paredes, Bushue, Wates, Ovando.  The MLB Post-Season Top 10 were Cosart, Singleton, Villar, Foltynewicz, Clemens, DeShields, Bushue, Oberholtzer, Wates, Santana.

The projected 2014 lineup was:
C - Castro
1B - Wallace
2B - DeShields
3B - Johnson
SS - Villar
OF - Martinez, Bourn, Pence
Rotation - Lyles, Rodriguez, Foltynewicz, Myers, Happ
Closer - Norris

Misses of note:
Feliz at GCL
Houser at Greeneville
Duffy, & Tropeano (& Springer in his draft year) at Tri-City
Keuchel (& Altuve to start the season) at Corpus


ETA:  Thanks go to Knucklehead. Amazing.

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Re: Astros @ Athletics July 19, 2016
« Reply #335 on: July 21, 2016, 04:56:36 pm »
None of us have access to the shift data, and even if we did, it is not as if legitimate interpretations couldn't exist at the same time.  It's not like a branch of science with objectively correct answers.  The idea that "they do it, so it must be right" is terribly misplaced.  As evidence, if they altered their strategy today (as they likely have done many times), would they have still been right yesterday?

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