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Art Briles...out at Baylor
« on: May 26, 2016, 01:17:28 pm »
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2016, 01:40:35 pm »
Bravo, Baylor! Did not think you had balls enough to do it.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2016, 01:45:50 pm »
Now Baylor football will go back to being an afterthought. Art turned a blind eye, sacrificed character for talent, but at least he didn't go all Dave Bliss on 'em.

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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2016, 01:50:01 pm »
Quote from: JimR on May 26, 2016, 01:40:35 pm
Bravo, Baylor! Did not think you had balls enough to do it.

I thought that Starr was going to be the scapegoat. I didn't think that they'd run Briles off.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2016, 02:00:10 pm »
The Pepper report was released and according to the ESPN spoke of the lack of institutional control and accountability in the football program.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2016, 02:04:34 pm »
Quote from: JimR on May 26, 2016, 01:40:35 pm
Bravo, Baylor! Did not think you had balls enough to do it.

I didn't think so either.  But I'm glad they're cleaning house. 
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2016, 02:27:10 pm »
Quote from: Duke on May 26, 2016, 02:00:10 pm
The Pepper report was released and according to the ESPN spoke of the lack of institutional control and accountability in the football program.

That is a "findings of fact" paraphrasing written by the board of regents.  The full report has not yet been released, although they are saying it will be released today.

How do Briles and Starr lose their jobs but Ian McCaw just gets placed on probation?  Does accountability skip one level of the org chart?
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2016, 02:27:34 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 26, 2016, 02:04:34 pm
I didn't think so either.  But I'm glad they're cleaning house.

Well, "cleaning house". AD stays. Starr stays, and actually moves up to chancellor.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2016, 02:32:11 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on May 26, 2016, 02:27:34 pm
Well, "cleaning house". AD stays. Starr stays, and actually moves up to chancellor.

He was already chancellor and president.  Now he's "just" chancellor.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2016, 02:54:59 pm »
Quote from: GreatBagwellsBeard on May 26, 2016, 02:32:11 pm
He was already chancellor and president.  Now he's "just" chancellor.

Ok, that makes slightly more sense.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2016, 03:02:18 pm »
wonder if there will be more discretion  with who they draft
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2016, 03:59:13 pm »
Screw expansion, kick Baylor out and add the Coogs.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2016, 07:32:43 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on May 26, 2016, 02:27:34 pm
Well, "cleaning house". AD stays. Starr stays, and actually moves up to chancellor.

I thought Starr was out altogether.  I guess just they just cut his duties in half
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2016, 09:35:28 am »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 26, 2016, 07:32:43 pm
I thought Starr was out altogether.  I guess just they just cut his duties in half

Starr was Chancellor and President, I think. now "only" Chancellor.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2016, 09:42:46 am »
Quote from: JimR on May 27, 2016, 09:35:28 am
Starr was Chancellor and President, I think. now "only" Chancellor.

It's beyond me how Starr doesn't get swept out with the rest of the trash. And the A.D.  Was Briles working in a vacuum?
Am wondering what is going through Drayton's mind now. His name is on the stadium.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2016, 09:55:52 am »
Quote from: juliogotay on May 27, 2016, 09:42:46 am
It's beyond me how Starr doesn't get swept out with the rest of the trash.

Not only that, he's scheduled to speak to a conference on... wait for it... Title IX issues:

http://www.sacscoc.org/annmtg/2016/2016_Annual_Meeting_General_Information.pdf
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2016, 10:10:46 am »
Quote from: juliogotay on May 27, 2016, 09:42:46 am
Am wondering what is going through Drayton's mind now. His name is on the stadium.

I couldn't give less of a fuck about what that pompous ass thinks.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2016, 10:58:38 am »
Quote from: juliogotay on May 27, 2016, 09:42:46 am
It's beyond me how Starr doesn't get swept out with the rest of the trash. And the A.D.  Was Briles working in a vacuum?

Baylor's own press release says “administrators directly discouraged some complainants from reporting or participating in student conduct processes and in one instance constituted retaliation against a complainant for reporting sexual assault.”  Either Starr knew what was going on and participated in the cover up, or he didn't know what was going on and was negligent in his duties.  I don't know how they can justify any type of leadership role for someone who presided over systematic institutional failure. 

Quote from: juliogotay on May 27, 2016, 09:42:46 am
Am wondering what is going through Drayton's mind now. His name is on the stadium.

Eh.  Fuck him.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2016, 11:54:19 am »
Quote from: JimR on May 27, 2016, 09:35:28 am
Starr was Chancellor and President, I think. now "only" Chancellor.

He has tenure.  Supposedly can't be fired.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2016, 12:09:47 pm »
Quote from: Duke on May 27, 2016, 11:54:19 am
He has tenure.  Supposedly can't be fired.

As a professor. Not as president or chancellor.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2016, 01:00:07 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on May 27, 2016, 12:09:47 pm
As a professor. Not as president or chancellor.

There are processes to get rid of a tenured professor.  It is a long process but one I've seen happen.

Also, most presidential contracts will have the president go to a faculty position when they leave the office.

The bad thing about Baylor is you cannot submit an open record request for information since they are a private university.  A lot harder to get information.
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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2016, 06:49:57 pm »
AD resigned this afternoon. "After much prayer and reflection"... and buyout negotiations, no doubt.


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Re: Art Briles...out at Baylor
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2016, 10:50:30 am »
Quote from: BudGirl on May 27, 2016, 01:00:07 pm
There are processes to get rid of a tenured professor.  It is a long process but one I've seen happen.

Also, most presidential contracts will have the president go to a faculty position when they leave the office.

The bad thing about Baylor is you cannot submit an open record request for information since they are a private university.  A lot harder to get information.

you are correct. tenure is no protection against firing. exactly the same as firing someone during the term of a written contract.  I have done it more than once for my Seminary clients.
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