Author Topic: Astros @ Red Sox, Sunday 5/15 (Read 8948 times)

Nate Colbert · « **on:** May 15, 2016, 01:00:50 pm »

Walks (2), Castro airmailing a throw into centerfield and a double and Devenski and the Astros already down 2-0 heading to T2.

Also a near disastrous inability to field an infield popup.

MusicMan · « **Reply #1 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:09:21 pm »

Red Sox return the favor as Rasmus reaches on an error, White walks, and Valbuena homers to make it 3-2.

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Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #2 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:13:09 pm »

Just watched Scherzer's 20k game. Can't say I regret that much the release of JD Martinez; all that hand-kissing really gets on my nerves for some reason.

Nate Colbert · « **Reply #3 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:22:58 pm »

After the Valbuena homer, runner on 2nd with none out (Gomez had walked and swiped a base) and Astros unable to score the run.

austro · « **Reply #4 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:24:33 pm »

Now Gomez loses an easy fly in the sun, and that runner scores on a subsequent single. This is going to be a long and ugly game.

Nate Colbert · « **Reply #5 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:25:32 pm »

Quote from: austro on May 15, 2016, 01:24:33 pm

Now Gomez loses an easy fly in the sun, and that runner scores on a subsequent single. This is going to be a long and ugly game.

Based on this series, you would think none of the Astros players had ever played a day game in their lives.

MusicMan · « **Reply #6 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:28:14 pm »

At least Gomez is still contributing on defense. Loses a ball in the sun for a double. Ground out and single score him, 3-3.

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MusicMan · « **Reply #7 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:32:04 pm »

Bogaerts homers to make it 6-3.

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Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #8 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:40:21 pm »

What are the chances we see an electronic strike zone implemented in the next few years?

austro · « **Reply #9 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:45:12 pm »

Quote from: Knoxbanedoodle on May 15, 2016, 01:40:21 pm

What are the chances we see an electronic strike zone implemented in the next few years?

Very slim. I assume that would require approval from the umpires' union, and I doubt that will be forthcoming.

juliogotay · « **Reply #10 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:51:07 pm »

Quote from: austro on May 15, 2016, 01:45:12 pm

Very slim. I assume that would require approval from the umpires' union, and I doubt that will be forthcoming.

Most unions don't vote for planned obsolescence.

Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #11 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:51:53 pm »

These Sox bats are smoking hot.

Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #12 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:53:33 pm »

Quote from: austro on May 15, 2016, 01:45:12 pm

Very slim. I assume that would require approval from the umpires' union, and I doubt that will be forthcoming.

There'd still be home plate umpires.

MusicMan · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2016, 01:59:21 pm »

Correa hit a solo shot to make it 6-4. Fiers now pitching in relief.

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Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:00:03 pm »

That fucking leprechaun is wearing me out.

Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #15 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:10:52 pm »

This is clearly not our year. I hope the boys develop a little grit over the next several months of Shit Not Going Their Way and come back with meanness in 2017. And I hope SI leaves them the fuck alone.

austro · « **Reply #16 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:27:47 pm »

Quote from: Knoxbanedoodle on May 15, 2016, 01:51:53 pm

These Sox bats are smoking hot.

It kind of looks like every bat that sees Houston pitching is smoking hot.

pots · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:28:15 pm »

Why not pinch hit Marwin here?

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #18 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:28:24 pm »

First team to 10 wins.

Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #19 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:30:05 pm »

Quote from: austro on May 15, 2016, 02:27:47 pm

It kind of looks like every bat that sees Houston pitching is smoking hot.

That's true. It's a stupid year to be the pitch-to-contact team.

pots · « **Reply #20 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:30:10 pm »

Quote from: pots on May 15, 2016, 02:28:15 pm

Why not pinch hit Marwin here?

oh that's why. Valbuena with a 2 run ground rule double

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:32:44 pm »

I would like to see Gomez pick up a few more HBPs.

pots · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:33:26 pm »

Why not pinch hit Marwin here?

Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #23 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:33:47 pm »

I've been watching the NESN feed this series. Yesterday they reported that Gomez was, I think, the fourth worst-hitting outfielder in the big leagues.

ETA: actually it was all positions.

pots · « **Reply #24 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:35:05 pm »

Quote from: pots on May 15, 2016, 02:33:26 pm

Why not pinch hit Marwin here?

Worth a shot. Tucker Ks

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #25 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:36:01 pm »

Preston Tucker seems pretty shitty lately.

pots · « **Reply #26 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:41:45 pm »

Is Marwin hurt? Not sure you are going to have a better couple of chances to use him there

Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #27 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:50:49 pm »

How is it possible that the runner on third didn't score on the 2nd out? I'm watching sans commentary. The infield wasn't in, the ball wasn't hit all that hard, and Altuve slid. Why didn't the runner go? That's a rare break.

pots · « **Reply #28 on:** May 15, 2016, 02:59:03 pm »

Quote from: Knoxbanedoodle on May 15, 2016, 02:50:49 pm

How is it possible that the runner on third didn't score on the 2nd out? I'm watching sans commentary. The infield wasn't in, the ball wasn't hit all that hard, and Altuve slid. Why didn't the runner go? That's a rare break.

Cause he was on second

pots · « **Reply #29 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:01:42 pm »

New ballgame! Rasmus RBI double

hostros7 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:01:50 pm »

The Astros catch a couple breaks here and knot it up at 8.

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hostros7 · « **Reply #31 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:02:52 pm »

Quote from: Knoxbanedoodle on May 15, 2016, 02:50:49 pm

How is it possible that the runner on third didn't score on the 2nd out? I'm watching sans commentary. The infield wasn't in, the ball wasn't hit all that hard, and Altuve slid. Why didn't the runner go? That's a rare break.

Your comment presupposes that Ash would be capable of enlightening you.

pots · « **Reply #32 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:03:40 pm »

9-8 Astros. White RBI single!

Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #33 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:06:45 pm »

Quote from: pots on May 15, 2016, 02:59:03 pm

Cause he was on second

OK. I'm satisfied.

Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #34 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:15:35 pm »

Count to Bogaerts should be 0-2 instead of 2-0. These meat computer umpires kinda suck.

jbm · « **Reply #35 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:41:46 pm »

Some quality fucking baseball there.

juliogotay · « **Reply #36 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:42:22 pm »

the last two days have been the most embarrassing defensive performance I have seen from a ML team.

This is Amazin' Mets territory.

WVastro · « **Reply #37 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:42:41 pm »

Carlos Gomez is the Donald Trump of baseball.

MusicMan · « **Reply #38 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:44:50 pm »

If Crane wants to prove his financial commitment to winning, he should hire a fucking hit man to take out Gomez.

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MusicMan · « **Reply #39 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:45:44 pm »

Betts triples and its 10-9.

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HudsonHawk · « **Reply #40 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:46:16 pm »

This team is a fucking joke with Carlos Gomez on the field. I'd rather Marisnick go 0 for 2016 than play another game with Gomez on the roster.

WVastro · « **Reply #41 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:47:53 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on May 15, 2016, 03:44:50 pm

If Crane wants to prove his financial commitment to winning, he should hire a fucking hit man to take out Gomez.

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A DFA would show me plenty.

hostros7 · « **Reply #42 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:48:10 pm »

Gomez needs some time on the DL due to suffering from shit for brains.

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hostros7 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:57:15 pm »

Today's and yesterday's losses are completely brutal. There will need to be some changes made.

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WVastro · « **Reply #44 on:** May 15, 2016, 03:59:29 pm »

All joking aside I haven't seen anyone this tied up mentally on an mlb field that I can remember. He's questioning everything he's doing while he's doing it. I'm sure the guy "cares" and works... But he's way too aware of how shitty he's been. it's starting to look like the "yips" but not on a single facet of the game but all of it.

hostros7 · « **Reply #45 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:06:01 pm »

Quote from: WVastro on May 15, 2016, 03:59:29 pm

All joking aside I haven't seen anyone this tied up mentally on an mlb field that I can remember. He's questioning everything he's doing while he's doing it. I'm sure the guy "cares" and works... But he's way too aware of how shitty he's been. it's starting to look like the "yips" but not on a single facet of the game but all of it.

Good thing he's due up third this inning.

WVastro · « **Reply #46 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:07:30 pm »

Not to mention he's likely losing about a million dollars a day in future earnings at this point.

MusicMan · « **Reply #47 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:08:54 pm »

White takes strike 3 right down the middle.

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hostros7 · « **Reply #48 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:09:14 pm »

Quote from: WVastro on May 15, 2016, 04:07:30 pm

Not to mention he's likely losing about a million dollars a day in future earnings at this point.

He's already lit about $75mm on fire, and it's only May.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #49 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:09:48 pm »

How does a team take so many fucking meat fastballs right down the center of the fucking plate for strike three?

hostros7 · « **Reply #50 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:12:21 pm »

Over/under on helmet falling off during AB set at 1.5

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MusicMan · « **Reply #51 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:12:54 pm »

I don't care if you use a pitcher. Letting Gomez bat is absurd.

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HudsonHawk · « **Reply #52 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:13:53 pm »

For the first half of last year, I fucking loved this team. I didn't care if they won or lost, I loved watching them. This is the most unlikeable team I've ever seen.

WVastro · « **Reply #53 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:19:42 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 15, 2016, 04:13:53 pm

For the first half of last year, I fucking loved this team. I didn't care if they won or lost, I loved watching them. This is the most unlikeable team I've ever seen.

I feel most of my disgust centers around Gomez. I wouldn't be surprised to see the team surge after his eventual departure. One of the players I liked most during last season was Marisnick. He reminded me of the type of player the Giants always have/had during their WS seasons. He's rotting on the bench so far and his dismal stats reflect that.

MusicMan · « **Reply #54 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:21:02 pm »

I'm trying to be rational about this, and I still can't come up with a single reason Gomez should still be on the roster when they get to Chicago.

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hostros7 · « **Reply #55 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:25:33 pm »

Quote from: WVastro on May 15, 2016, 04:19:42 pm

I feel most of my disgust centers around Gomez. I wouldn't be surprised to see the team surge after his eventual departure. One of the players I liked most during last season was Marisnick. He reminded me of the type of player the Giants always have/had during their WS seasons. He's rotting on the bench so far and his dismal stats reflect that.

The starting pitchers have an ERA over 6 on the road this season.

austro · « **Reply #56 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:27:31 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 15, 2016, 04:09:48 pm

How does a team take so many fucking meat fastballs right down the center of the fucking plate for strike three?

It is baffling. It's not like there was any question on that pitch to White. He has to be swinging the fucking bat. It's not like he's going to walk and steal three bases.

MusicMan · « **Reply #57 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:40:50 pm »

Tags tweet:

Tucker to Triple-A. Gattis joins team and Kratz out. Corresponding move on Tucker to come.

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juliogotay · « **Reply #58 on:** May 15, 2016, 04:50:47 pm »

Hinch confirmed that Gomez called Springer off of that ball in the 7th.

Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #59 on:** May 15, 2016, 05:06:36 pm »

At what point does the continued starting of Gomez give the lie to the "process" gospel of Ground Control?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #60 on:** May 15, 2016, 05:12:31 pm »

Quote from: WVastro on May 15, 2016, 04:19:42 pm

I feel most of my disgust centers around Gomez. I wouldn't be surprised to see the team surge after his eventual departure. One of the players I liked most during last season was Marisnick. He reminded me of the type of player the Giants always have/had during their WS seasons. He's rotting on the bench so far and his dismal stats reflect that.

I've never liked Gomez on this team. I didn't want him last year and I don't want him this year. Even if he were hitting, I don't like him and don't want him on my team. But they don't listen to me, so I'll just have to deal with it. But this is not a fun team to watch.

Nate Colbert · « **Reply #61 on:** May 15, 2016, 05:12:54 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on May 15, 2016, 04:40:50 pm

Tags tweet:

Tucker to Triple-A. Gattis joins team and Kratz out. Corresponding move on Tucker to come.

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Not sure if it means anything or not but Danny Worth did not play in the Fresno game today.

The Spleen · « **Reply #62 on:** May 15, 2016, 05:24:45 pm »

Quote from: WVastro on May 15, 2016, 03:59:29 pm

All joking aside I haven't seen anyone this tied up mentally on an mlb field that I can remember. He's questioning everything he's doing while he's doing it. I'm sure the guy "cares" and works... But he's way too aware of how shitty he's been. it's starting to look like the "yips" but not on a single facet of the game but all of it.

He's turned into the position player version of Steve Blass.

MusicMan · « **Reply #63 on:** May 15, 2016, 05:27:28 pm »

Quote from: Knoxbanedoodle on May 15, 2016, 05:06:36 pm

At what point does the continued starting of Gomez give the lie to the "process" gospel of Ground Control?

I'm still trying to understand this question.

David in Jackson · « **Reply #64 on:** May 15, 2016, 05:39:37 pm »

If released Gomez today, I assume we play Marisnick everyday and his offensive number over four years in bugs are absolutely terrible. Tucker has been sent to AAA for poor performance. What a weekend.

pots · « **Reply #65 on:** May 15, 2016, 05:54:45 pm »

Or you bring up Kemp. See if there is anything there before next season

The Spleen · « **Reply #66 on:** May 15, 2016, 05:57:03 pm »

It's amazing how little talent there is in this organization at the major league (and even the AAA) level all of a sudden...
You have three All-Stars in Altuve, Correa and Springer, a couple of promising young starting pitchers, a handful of decent bullpen arms... then it's this generation's version of Jose Lima and a pile of near-replacement level bodies. To the point where the corpse of Carlos Gomez may be your least worst option in center field.

Bregman, Reed, Musgrove and friends are out there but probably still a couple of years from making a difference. They may be in the majors sooner than that, but it's very unlikely that they'll be instant stars like Correa. Even the early 90's teams with Bagwell, Biggio, Caminiti, Finley, Gonzalez, etc. took several years to get their act together.

We're going to need a multi-year rebuilding program to fix the multi-year rebuilding program that failed.

pots · « **Reply #67 on:** May 15, 2016, 05:57:35 pm »

Well at least he's not under some false perception

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Carlos Gomez: “It’s my fault. We lost the game because of me today. There’s nothing I can say. And every day, we lost because of me.”

pots · « **Reply #68 on:** May 15, 2016, 05:59:37 pm »

That is why he didn't pinch hit there

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Marwin Gonzalez was unavailable. He said he can't put any weight on his foot after fouling a ball off it yesterday. X-rays were negative.

Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #69 on:** May 15, 2016, 06:07:47 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on May 15, 2016, 05:27:28 pm

I'm still trying to understand this question.

Marisnick is a superior center fielder and baserunner and no worse a hitter than Gomez. At what point does continuing to start him--which is more and more frequently a decision to jeopardize victories--stop seeming like the right Process thing to do and start resembling the vanity of a GM unwilling to admit that the big trade was an abject failure?

I don't necessarily think we've reached that point. I just think it's interesting.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #70 on:** May 15, 2016, 06:44:19 pm »

Quote from: The Spleen on May 15, 2016, 05:57:03 pm

It's amazing how little talent there is in this organization at the major league (and even the AAA) level all of a sudden...
You have three All-Stars in Altuve, Correa and Springer, a couple of promising young starting pitchers, a handful of decent bullpen arms... then it's this generation's version of Jose Lima and a pile of near-replacement level bodies. To the point where the corpse of Carlos Gomez may be your least worst option in center field.

Bregman, Reed, Musgrove and friends are out there but probably still a couple of years from making a difference. They may be in the majors sooner than that, but it's very unlikely that they'll be instant stars like Correa. Even the early 90's teams with Bagwell, Biggio, Caminiti, Finley, Gonzalez, etc. took several years to get their act together.

We're going to need a multi-year rebuilding program to fix the multi-year rebuilding program that failed.

To go for it all right now to get Gomez and Giles Luhnow gave up:
1 MLB starting pitcher
2 AAA starting pitchers
1 AAA Outfielder
2 AA Pitchers
1 AA
1 A pitcher

That's a lot of upper level players. Not all of them would be useful in Houston particularly Appel and Oberholtzer.

austro · « **Reply #71 on:** May 15, 2016, 07:01:44 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on May 15, 2016, 06:44:19 pm

To go for it all right now to get Gomez and Giles Luhnow gave up:
1 MLB starting pitcher
2 AAA starting pitchers
1 AAA Outfielder
2 AA Pitchers
1 AA
1 A pitcher

That's a lot of upper level players. Not all of them would be useful in Houston particularly Appel and Oberholtzer.

My guess is that Hader will turn out to be the guy we miss the most.

juliogotay · « **Reply #72 on:** May 15, 2016, 07:40:12 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 15, 2016, 05:12:31 pm

I've never liked Gomez on this team. I didn't want him last year and I don't want him this year. Even if he were hitting, I don't like him and don't want him on my team. But they don't listen to me, so I'll just have to deal with it. But this is not a fun team to watch.

I agree with you totally about Gomez. My stomach turned when I learned they dealt for him. It turned again when I learned what we gave up.
Where I disagree is that I still enjoy watching this team. They battle and they fight back and don't quite. They easily could have won both Sat. and Sun. games except ultimately they couldn't overcome their incompetence in the field. There are a handful of really good players on this team surrounded by a bunch of marginal guys and double-agent Gomez.

MusicMan · « **Reply #73 on:** May 15, 2016, 08:29:52 pm »

Quote from: Knoxbanedoodle on May 15, 2016, 06:07:47 pm

At what point does continuing to start him--which is more and more frequently a decision to jeopardize victories--stop seeming like the right Process thing to do and start resembling the vanity of a GM unwilling to admit that the big trade was an abject failure?

Luhnow isn't the one filling out the lineup card.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #74 on:** May 15, 2016, 08:57:10 pm »

Quote from: austro on May 15, 2016, 07:01:44 pm

My guess is that Hader will turn out to be the guy we miss the most.

They already miss Velasquez.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #75 on:** May 16, 2016, 12:31:03 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on May 15, 2016, 08:29:52 pm

Luhnow isn't the one filling out the lineup card.

He might not be putting the ink to paper but you are crazy if you don't think he has input, lots of input.

WVastro · « **Reply #76 on:** May 16, 2016, 12:56:09 am »

It's easy to presume that in such a massive money making endeavor such as the Houston Astros that everything is meticulously planned. Failures are "accounted for". Contingencies are ready to go at a moments notice. Sometimes people fail. They suck. The Astros suck right now.

Shit fucking happens. Plans don't work out.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #77 on:** May 16, 2016, 06:42:33 am »

Quote from: juliogotay on May 15, 2016, 07:40:12 pm

Where I disagree is that I still enjoy watching this team. They battle and they fight back and don't quite. They easily could have won both Sat. and Sun. games except ultimately they couldn't overcome their incompetence in the field. There are a handful of really good players on this

I don't see that in this team. They've scored some runs late in games the last week, but I don't see them battling, and I don't see the same attitude and intensity as last year. Perhaps I'm just missing it, but there's a marked difference.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #78 on:** May 16, 2016, 07:45:28 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 15, 2016, 05:12:31 pm

I've never liked Gomez on this team. I didn't want him last year and I don't want him this year. Even if he were hitting, I don't like him and don't want him on my team. But they don't listen to me, so I'll just have to deal with it. But this is not a fun team to watch.

Exactly. He is bad and looks worse doing it than anyone I have seen recently.

pots · « **Reply #79 on:** May 16, 2016, 09:50:11 am »

Quote from: pots on May 15, 2016, 05:54:45 pm

Or you bring up Kemp. See if there is anything there before next season

Confirmed

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As expected, source says Kemp to join Astros

juliogotay · « **Reply #80 on:** May 16, 2016, 10:39:31 am »

Quote from: pots on May 16, 2016, 09:50:11 am

Confirmed

I wonder if he will play LF with Rasmus moving to CF?

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #81 on:** May 16, 2016, 11:01:04 am »

in AAA Kemp has played 39 games in CF and 14 in LF. Whoever can cover more ground seems to be the best choice for CF at MM.

juliogotay · « **Reply #82 on:** May 16, 2016, 11:09:50 am »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on May 16, 2016, 11:01:04 am

in AAA Kemp has played 39 games in CF and 14 in LF. Whoever can cover more ground seems to be the best choice for CF at MM.

not much of an arm IIRC.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #83 on:** May 16, 2016, 11:25:38 am »

Quote from: juliogotay on May 16, 2016, 11:09:50 am

not much of an arm IIRC.

Correct

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #84 on:** May 16, 2016, 12:39:06 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on May 16, 2016, 11:01:04 am

in AAA Kemp has played 39 games in CF and 14 in LF. Whoever can cover more ground seems to be the best choice for CF at MM.

You can't have a noodle arm in CF at MMPUS. You can hide one in LF, but not CF.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #85 on:** May 16, 2016, 01:22:10 pm »

I have never seen him throw. Is his arm that bad? Like Biggio in CF bad?

juliogotay · « **Reply #86 on:** May 16, 2016, 01:43:59 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on May 16, 2016, 01:22:10 pm

I have never seen him throw. Is his arm that bad? Like Biggio in CF bad?

I think where he is played will tell us about his arm. If he is in LF and Rasmus has to move over then we will know why.

jbm · « **Reply #87 on:** May 16, 2016, 02:15:59 pm »

I like Kemp, but I don't see him as a superior center fielder to Marisnick, Springer or Rasmus. I'd be surprised to see him anywhere other than left with that cast.

I hope Tucker gets it together. His swing was getting awful long.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #88 on:** May 16, 2016, 03:28:50 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on May 16, 2016, 01:22:10 pm

I have never seen him throw. Is his arm that bad? Like Biggio in CF bad?

I don't know that I'd call it a noodle. It's just not strong.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #89 on:** May 16, 2016, 03:30:22 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on May 16, 2016, 01:43:59 pm

I think where he is played will tell us about his arm. If he is in LF and Rasmus has to move over then we will know why.

I think where he is played will depend on his comfort.