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Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« on: April 17, 2016, 01:02:08 pm »
Your lineups for today's matinee:

Tigers

2BIan Kinsler (R)
LFJustin Upton (R)
1BMiguel Cabrera (R)
DHVictor Martinez (S)
RFJ.D. Martinez (R)
3BN. Castellanos (R)
CJ. Saltalamacchia (S)
CFAnthony Gose (L)
SSJose Iglesias (R)

DET: Anibal Sanchez (R)  (2-0, 3.37)

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2B Jose Altuve (R)
RF George Springer (R)
LF Colby Rasmus (L)
1B Tyler White (R)
DH Evan Gattis (R)
3B Luis Valbuena (L)
SS Marwin Gonzalez (S)
C Erik Kratz (R)
CF Jake Marisnick (R)

HOU: Mike Fiers (R)  (0-1, 6.55)
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2016, 01:51:55 pm »
We've played two...Altuve led off the bottom of the first with a solo HR, and Springer scored on a wild pitch.  Since then, the Astros bats are 0 for 6 w/RISP.  But Astros lead 2-0
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2016, 02:07:38 pm »
Springer Dinger!  3-0 Astros in the third.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2016, 02:10:45 pm »
B3:

Springer homers to LCF
Rasmus strikes out swinging
White strikes out swinging
Gattis strikes out swinging

3-0 Astros
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2016, 02:14:30 pm »
Altuve joining Biggio and Cedeno in the 20 homer/50 steals club this season?
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2016, 02:16:03 pm »
Marwin and Altuve not communicating well today.


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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2016, 02:18:15 pm »
T4:

Cabrera grounds out 6-3
Martinez flairs a single into CF
Martinez grounds into FC, Martinez out 4U
Castellanos strikes out swinging

3-0 Astros
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2016, 02:20:06 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on April 17, 2016, 02:16:03 pm
Marwin and Altuve not communicating well today.


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They don't seem real comfortable together, that's for sure.  I suppose that's to be somewhat expected. 
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2016, 02:20:59 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 17, 2016, 02:20:06 pm
They don't seem real comfortable together, that's for sure.  I suppose that's to be somewhat expected.

No good can come from resting Correa!
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2016, 02:26:40 pm »
Kratz is a bad big league hitter.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2016, 02:29:38 pm »
Nice, way to make them pay for their mistake
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2016, 02:30:25 pm »
Altuve with a 2-out, 2-run single!  5-0
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2016, 02:34:00 pm »
B4:

Valbuena pops out F4 on the first pitch
Marwin singles to RF
Kratz flies out F8
Marisnick with an infield single, Cabrera tries to throw back behind Marwin, throw goes into LF, Marwin to 3B, Marisnick to 2B on TE3
Altuve singles to LF, Marwin scores, Marisnick scores, Altuve to 2B on the lollipop throw home
Altuve to 3B on a wild pitch
Springer...full count...takes a center cut meatball fastball for strike three

But the Astros plate two more...lead 5-0
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2016, 02:44:54 pm »
Fiers is a long reliever. 5-3 now.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2016, 02:47:06 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on April 17, 2016, 02:44:54 pm
Fiers is a long reliever. 5-3 now.

Who would you rather have in the pen, Devenski or Fiers?  Or perhaps Fields is your odd man out?
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2016, 02:51:30 pm »
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Who would you rather have in the pen, Devenski or Fiers?  Or perhaps Fields is your odd man out?

Fields is not reliable.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2016, 02:55:20 pm »
Colby got jacked good by Kinsler on that pop up by White.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2016, 02:55:43 pm »
Quote from: pots on April 17, 2016, 02:47:06 pm
Who would you rather have in the pen, Devenski or Fiers?  Or perhaps Fields is your odd man out?
I know it's a small sample size but I think I might give devenski a chance to start
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2016, 03:01:26 pm »
Valbuena is killing me.  They have to do something about getting some production at 3B.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2016, 03:07:38 pm »
1 for 10 w/RISP...in five innings. 
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2016, 03:09:09 pm »
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1 for 10 w/RISP...in five innings.

not surprisingly in the bottom 5 of MLB in RISP batting.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2016, 03:14:00 pm »
Fuck Fiers.  Makes Martinez look absolutely silly on curveballs all day, then when he gets 1-2, grooves a cookie fastball for a HR.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2016, 03:14:42 pm »
I don't like J.D. Martinez anymore.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2016, 03:16:34 pm »
Fiers out with 2 out in the 6th clinging to a 5-4 lead.  Sipp in.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2016, 03:17:12 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 17, 2016, 03:01:26 pm
Valbuena is killing me.  They have to do something about getting some production at 3B.

Bregman needs to be getting reps at 3b at Corpus ASAP.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2016, 03:17:30 pm »
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Quote from: MusicMan on April 17, 2016, 03:17:12 pm
Bregman needs to be getting reps at 3b at Corpus ASAP.

They have to do something.  You can't have an everyday third baseman who is that putrid at the plate.  At any level.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2016, 03:21:39 pm »
Sipp gets a strikeout to end the 6th and take Fiers off the hook.
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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2016, 03:23:36 pm »
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Bregman needs to be getting reps at 3b at Corpus ASAP.
That or call up Moran and give him a shot.
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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2016, 03:24:30 pm »
Quote from: doyce7 on April 17, 2016, 03:23:36 pm
That or call up Moran and give him a shot.

What's wrong with Duffy?
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« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2016, 03:24:41 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on April 17, 2016, 03:17:12 pm
Bregman needs to be getting reps at 3b at Corpus ASAP.

I'm sure Moran would get the first shot. He is doing well at AAA.
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« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2016, 03:26:01 pm »
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What's wrong with Duffy?

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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2016, 03:26:28 pm »
Too bad you can't DH for the catcher. 
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« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2016, 03:26:48 pm »
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What's wrong with Duffy?
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2016, 03:28:09 pm »
This team is a strikeout factory.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2016, 03:31:01 pm »
I think Bregman is not even being considered for 3rd. SS, 2nd, or maybe OF because of who the Astros have at SS and 2nd.
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« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2016, 03:33:53 pm »
Too bad Correa didn't grow up intent on being an all time great 3rd sacker...
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« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2016, 03:37:44 pm »
Sipp walks the leadoff hitter in the 7th, and that's all for him.  Neshek in.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2016, 03:38:21 pm »
What happened a couple innings ago with an incorrect infield-fly-rule call?  I turned on the radio when they were discussing it, but I couldn't figure out the details.  Did the ump really call it with only a runner on first?
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« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2016, 03:47:25 pm »
This is an encouraging showing from Neshek over the last two games.
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What happened a couple innings ago with an incorrect infield-fly-rule call?  I turned on the radio when they were discussing it, but I couldn't figure out the details.  Did the ump really call it with only a runner on first?

No.  Rasmus was on first, and Tyler White popped one up on the infield.  Kinsler let it drop and forced Rasmus at 2B.  Ump was thinking of invoking the ol' "intentional drop" rule, but didn't.  Rasmus was out.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2016, 03:56:35 pm »
Giles in for the 8th...nursing a 1-run lead...
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2016, 03:57:29 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 17, 2016, 03:48:19 pm
No.  Rasmus was on first, and Tyler White popped one up on the infield.  Kinsler let it drop and forced Rasmus at 2B.  Ump was thinking of invoking the ol' "intentional drop" rule, but didn't.  Rasmus was out.

That makes more sense.  Ford/Sparks were definitely saying he incorrectly called infield-fly, but I thought that surely didn't happen. 

Edit:  Deadspin has the play and the radio audio I was talking about.  They were completely confused.  http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/ian-kinsler-creates-one-of-the-strangest-most-brillia-1771498190
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2016, 04:00:12 pm »
Quote from: T. J. on April 17, 2016, 03:57:29 pm
That makes more sense.  Ford/Sparks were definitely saying he incorrectly called infield-fly, but I thought that surely didn't happen.

Hinch came out to discuss, wanting the intentional drop rule called.  Umpires discussed, and correctly said no, as Kinsler let the ball drop to the ground untouched. 
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #44 on: April 17, 2016, 04:02:34 pm »
2-out error on Valbuena brings the go-ahead run to the plate.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2016, 04:03:29 pm »
Single and Tigers have runners on the corner with 2 out...
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2016, 04:03:46 pm »
The Astros are losing ninjas this year- they have a 100 ways to blow a game.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2016, 04:04:17 pm »
Vallbuena!! That hurts.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2016, 04:04:50 pm »
Giles gets a big ground ball to end the inning.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2016, 04:05:23 pm »
Giles didn't look bad. That slider has some bite.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2016, 04:09:09 pm »
A run or two here would be helpful
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2016, 04:16:13 pm »
I know the game is not over, but Ashby hasn't made me cringe once today.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #52 on: April 17, 2016, 04:16:28 pm »
I guess not.  Headed to the 9th...Astros up 5-4
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2016, 04:16:52 pm »
I think he's better with Blum.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2016, 04:18:58 pm »
Gregerson in to face the 8, 9 and 1 hitters...
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2016, 04:21:09 pm »
Two quick outs...
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2016, 04:22:45 pm »
Astros win!!
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #57 on: April 17, 2016, 04:24:08 pm »
Nice job by the pen...Sipp, Neshek, Giles and Gregerson...put a lid on it.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #58 on: April 17, 2016, 05:29:37 pm »
Quote from: pots on April 17, 2016, 02:47:06 pm
Who would you rather have in the pen, Devenski or Fiers?  Or perhaps Fields is your odd man out?

Fiers doesn't have what it takes, in my opinion, to get through a lineup a second or third time.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #59 on: April 17, 2016, 06:28:12 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on April 17, 2016, 05:29:37 pm
Fiers doesn't have what it takes, in my opinion, to get through a lineup a second or third time.

Fiers gets a lot of flack. I don't know, but to me he's the fifth starter behind LMJ and Feldman. If a fifth starter goes 5 2/3 with 4 runs against a lineup like Detroit and the team wins I'll take it.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2016, 07:16:27 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on April 17, 2016, 05:29:37 pm
Fiers doesn't have what it takes, in my opinion, to get through a lineup a second or third time.

I agree - definitely doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who can see the same hitters multiple times and keep them from getting a hit.
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Re: Tigers @ Astros April 17, 2016
« Reply #61 on: April 18, 2016, 06:17:41 am »
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Fiers gets a lot of flack. I don't know, but to me he's the fifth starter behind LMJ and Feldman. If a fifth starter goes 5 2/3 with 4 runs against a lineup like Detroit and the team wins I'll take it.

I'll take the W, especially against a lengthy lineup like Detroit's. I'm just thinking about competing for a pennant.
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