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What a ride!
« on: October 15, 2015, 07:11:03 am »
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2015, 08:01:33 am »
Absolutely.  Moving to the AL, thanks Selig, really took the wind from my sails.  This core is fantastic.  Very curious to see Lunhow's OS moves.  Well done Astros.

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2015, 08:38:31 am »
Thank you, Astros!

Agreed.  This is a fun team to root for.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2015, 08:46:27 am »
I had so much fun this year. Bring on 2016. The team is ready.

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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2015, 08:52:26 am »
This is my favorite season.  Even moreso than 2005.
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2015, 08:54:50 am »
This is my favorite season.  Even moreso than 2005.

I think it has been mine, too.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2015, 08:56:23 am »
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2015, 09:00:50 am »
This is my favorite season.  Even moreso than 2005.

Agreed.

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2015, 09:22:25 am »
Hear here. What a great and important season.

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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2015, 09:31:50 am »
like  a present you did not expect. wow think about what is yet to come
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2015, 09:48:04 am »
Great, fun season.  I really enjoyed watching the Astros and participating in and with this community here at OWA made it all the more enjoyable.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2015, 09:54:07 am »
I think it has been mine, too.

The Astros have had better teams.  They've had more successful teams.  They've had none more fun than this one. 
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2015, 10:01:03 am »
The Astros have had better teams.  They've had more successful teams.  They've had none more fun than this one.

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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2015, 10:51:05 am »
Coming into the season I was excited just to have them on tv again. To think then that we'd even have a chance to be devastated by a late Royals rally in Game 4 of the ALDS would have been damn near unfathomable.

Day in and day out this team rarely failed to entertain, and they gave us a ton of great moments. Completely agree with Jim and Hudson about them rating as the most fun team we've had to follow.

As Amanda Rykoff reminded us on Twitter each night (on many nights, multiple times):

"Baseball is fun, yes? YES!"

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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2015, 11:36:08 am »
This is my favorite season.  Even moreso than 2005.

Give me surpassing low expectations over barely meeting high expectations any day.

Unless those high expectations are the championship itself.

(But because of the Longhorns and the birth of my daughter, 2005 is still my favorite year.)
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2015, 12:04:35 pm »
There is something uplifting about rooting for a team whose highest peaks are yet to be revealed.

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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2015, 12:06:45 pm »
There is something uplifting about rooting for a team whose highest peaks are yet to be revealed.

We hope.

Let's not forget the 1986 Rockets.
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2015, 01:00:04 pm »
My only regret on this season was not getting out to see them play live when they came around these parts.    I will remedy that next year.   

I agree with this being the most fun to watch team.   All of use dig the long ball and all those come from behind wins in the 7-8-9th innings made for some fantastic baseball.

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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2015, 01:12:28 pm »
We hope.

Let's not forget the 1986 Rockets.

The payoff loss suffered by a young,  up and coming team is so much easier to take.   I remember watching the OKC Thunder lose  their first post-move playoff series at home on a Gasol tip in.  Pandemonium during the play,  then stunned silence,  then thunderous applause by the fans for the season they had witnessed.  I remember thinking at the time that was a special moment for them,  because the future was wide open,  but it wouldn't last forever.

 I'll remember this postseason almost as fondly as 2004, 2005.  What a blast.

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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2015, 01:28:05 pm »
We hope.

Let's not forget the 1986 Rockets.

Right now this feels like a failure. Hopefully that will change after it has a few weeks or months to sink in. It would probably feel different even if Game 4 had just been a routine 4-1 Royals win. But the real problem is that you can never really know when the next chance will come, if ever.

Right now we're hearing the usual cliches:

"This is a learning experience." The Bagwell/Biggio Astros in the late 90's had all kinds of learning experiences. What they mostly learned was that the postseason was this odd time after the 162nd game where random and horrible things would happen to you for a week or so until you finally got to go home and play golf and watch the World Series on TV. It took them most of a decade and a complete turnover of the supporting players before they (kind of) figured it out.

"The best is yet to come." Ask a Nationals fan how that worked out. And again, Bagwell and Biggio are still waiting for their first ring.

Obviously the Astros greatly exceeded expectations, and getting as far as they did was a real accomplishment.
I'm just struggling with the idea that this success will inevitably lead to greater success. Admittedly, my thinking is influenced more by the history of the Astros than anything specific to this year's team. If I were a Red Sox or Yankee fan and had just seen my team play to the same result, I would have been disappointed at the moment but more optimistic about the future. I'd be pretty sure that good things would lead to better things, because that's what had happened in the past. But for the Astros it's rarely been that easy...
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2015, 01:50:17 pm »
Right now this feels like a failure. Hopefully that will change after it has a few weeks or months to sink in. It would probably feel different even if Game 4 had just been a routine 4-1 Royals win. But the real problem is that you can never really know when the next chance will come, if ever.

Right now we're hearing the usual cliches:

"This is a learning experience." The Bagwell/Biggio Astros in the late 90's had all kinds of learning experiences. What they mostly learned was that the postseason was this odd time after the 162nd game where random and horrible things would happen to you for a week or so until you finally got to go home and play golf and watch the World Series on TV. It took them most of a decade and a complete turnover of the supporting players before they (kind of) figured it out.

"The best is yet to come." Ask a Nationals fan how that worked out. And again, Bagwell and Biggio are still waiting for their first ring.

Obviously the Astros greatly exceeded expectations, and getting as far as they did was a real accomplishment.
I'm just struggling with the idea that this success will inevitably lead to greater success. Admittedly, my thinking is influenced more by the history of the Astros than anything specific to this year's team. If I were a Red Sox or Yankee fan and had just seen my team play to the same result, I would have been disappointed at the moment but more optimistic about the future. I'd be pretty sure that good things would lead to better things, because that's what had happened in the past. But for the Astros it's rarely been that easy...


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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2015, 01:59:12 pm »
way, way too pessimistic.

You're probably right.
Barring major catastrophe, this is going to be a good team for a long time, one that is consistently contending for or in the playoffs.
But a lot is going to have to go right if they're going to do more than that.

On the bright side, they're no longer in the NL Central.
That would have been the most insane division ever and would have made for some amazing baseball, but winning 93 games and maybe hoping to limp into the second wildcard would get old real fast...
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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2015, 02:22:40 pm »

"This is a learning experience." The Bagwell/Biggio Astros in the late 90's had all kinds of learning experiences. What they mostly learned was that the postseason was this odd time after the 162nd game where random and horrible things would happen to you for a week or so until you finally got to go home and play golf and watch the World Series on TV. It took them most of a decade and a complete turnover of the supporting players before they (kind of) figured it out.



This team is nothing like that of the Biggio/Bagwell late 1990s playoff teams.  For some perspective, here are the names and ages of the key 1998 Astros:
Jeff Bagwell - 30
Craig Biggio - 32
Moises Alou - 31
Bill Spiers - 32
Carl Everett - 27
Derek Bell - 29
Shane Reynolds - 30
Jose Lima - 25
Mike Hampton - 25
Randy Johnson - 34 (and a rental)

That was a team in its prime that was probably in the early stages of decline. The suggestion that the 1997 or 1998 postseasons were "learning experiences" for 30 year olds is fairly comical. Only broke dick tired sportswriters would construct such a vapid comparison. The late 90s Astros were a representation of a team failing to be good enough at its pinnacle, particularly once RJ was acquired.

The core of this Astros team is in its early to mid 20s. Correa hasn't played a full major league season. The team's second best pitcher is 21 years old. Springer hasn't even been able to play a full season in the bigs yet due to some random, unfortunate injuries. As much as we all cherish the history of the organization and our experiences watching our favorite players, the current roster has nothing to do with any of that. Luhnow and Crane poured gas all over the remains of it and then took a blowtorch to it. I think what does remain though is a fan and organizational memory of what it means to be an Astro in the "capital A" version of the term, a legacy created and carried on by guys like Biggio, Bagwell, and other great Astros before them. But, other than that, eyes should be focused on the future because in my lifetime I've never had the chance to see an Astros team as young as this one succeed at this early, perhaps premature, stage.



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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2015, 02:45:39 pm »
What a ride, indeed!!! I loved this club.
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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2015, 03:53:22 pm »
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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2015, 04:48:59 pm »
This team is nothing like that of the Biggio/Bagwell late 1990s playoff teams.  For some perspective, here are the names and ages of the key 1998 Astros:
Jeff Bagwell - 30
Craig Biggio - 32
Moises Alou - 31
Bill Spiers - 32
Carl Everett - 27
Derek Bell - 29
Shane Reynolds - 30
Jose Lima - 25
Mike Hampton - 25
Randy Johnson - 34 (and a rental)

That was a team in its prime that was probably in the early stages of decline. The suggestion that the 1997 or 1998 postseasons were "learning experiences" for 30 year olds is fairly comical. Only broke dick tired sportswriters would construct such a vapid comparison. The late 90s Astros were a representation of a team failing to be good enough at its pinnacle, particularly once RJ was acquired.

The core of this Astros team is in its early to mid 20s. Correa hasn't played a full major league season. The team's second best pitcher is 21 years old. Springer hasn't even been able to play a full season in the bigs yet due to some random, unfortunate injuries. As much as we all cherish the history of the organization and our experiences watching our favorite players, the current roster has nothing to do with any of that. Luhnow and Crane poured gas all over the remains of it and then took a blowtorch to it. I think what does remain though is a fan and organizational memory of what it means to be an Astro in the "capital A" version of the term, a legacy created and carried on by guys like Biggio, Bagwell, and other great Astros before them. But, other than that, eyes should be focused on the future because in my lifetime I've never had the chance to see an Astros team as young as this one succeed at this early, perhaps premature, stage.

Was going to say a lot of the same things.  The most successful teams in Astros history (2004-2005) were, for the most part, old as shit.  Watching this team get bounced is a lot different than watching any of the 90s-2000s playoff teams get bounced.  Success is never guaranteed, but there are many, many reasons to think we'll be seeing them play in October for a long time.

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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2015, 05:08:07 pm »
This season has been incredibly fun to watch. I love this team. Yeah they had flows but they played with such joy all season. One of my good friends who is not really a fan of any one team, kind of became an astro fan this year. He said they are too fun to watch for him to stay away. Sad that the season is over but thanks for the memories!

I'm also looking forward to my first off-season as a member of OWA.

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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2015, 07:38:57 pm »
This season has been incredibly fun to watch. I love this team. Yeah they had flows but they played with such joy all season. One of my good friends who is not really a fan of any one team, kind of became an astro fan this year. He said they are too fun to watch for him to stay away. Sad that the season is over but thanks for the memories!

I'm also looking forward to my first off-season as a member of OWA.

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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2015, 09:57:49 pm »
I'm also looking forward to my first off-season as a member of OWA.

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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2015, 05:53:03 am »
This season has been incredibly fun to watch. I love this team. Yeah they had flows but they played with such joy all season. One of my good friends who is not really a fan of any one team, kind of became an astro fan this year. He said they are too fun to watch for him to stay away. Sad that the season is over but thanks for the memories!

I'm also looking forward to my first off-season as a member of OWA.

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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2015, 08:45:40 am »
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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2015, 02:46:02 pm »
Well I have to agree that this may have been the best...

Being here in New Orleans ...it was great to once again be able to see them on Root...why we get all the black outs here aggravates me to no end. And I made my usual two weekend trips over to MM. I can take the kids over for a weekend and it is still cheaper than taking them to a Saints game...and a better spent entertainment dollar.

I think it was the youth of this team that inspires and fosters optimism. ..The speed of Gattis rounding those bases with the 3 baggers. The Colby Jacks. Thinking of a future with Correa and Springer. The Kuechel performances. All the bombs (forget the K's)...

The overachieving on expectations, the MLB network continually discounting us...and proving them wrong.

My older brother is an obnoxious Yankee fan. Making comments to people that I was overdosing on the Astros this year. Tells me things like, "Why do they call it the World Series, if they play it in the Bronx every year". Wild card game was sweet, sweet, sweet

And how about that last weekend...was wild...who to pull for? Do we want to just get in? Win the division? Crazy exciting shit !

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