Author Topic: Rangers Blue Jays (Read 5293 times)

astrojo · « **on:** October 14, 2015, 05:29:34 pm »

Anyone else watching? Blue Jays tie game in 6th, Sanchez comes on in relief top 7. 2 outs Odor on 3rd, choo at plate. Catcher Martin hits Choos bat when throwing ball back to Sanchez, ball rolls out toward 3rd, Odor scores. Run upheld, jays fans going nuts littering the field. Play now under review, but should stand.

astrojo · « **Reply #1 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:33:27 pm »

Rule 6.03 batter was in box.

Error on Russell Martin. Game being played under protest now.

homer · « **Reply #2 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:35:54 pm »

Whatever the rule, the home plate umpire called dead ball immediately. Play should be over.

astrojo · « **Reply #3 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:45:52 pm »

Now back to back errors in bottom 7 has 2 on no out for jays.

astrojo · « **Reply #4 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:48:34 pm »

Rangers defense imploding.

MRaup · « **Reply #5 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:50:19 pm »

Quote from: astrojo on October 14, 2015, 05:48:34 pm

~~Rangers defense~~ Elvis Andrus imploding.

FIFY.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #6 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:51:54 pm »

Gonna lose that protest. That was a live ball.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #7 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:54:28 pm »

Jays tie it up on bizarre bloop that ends up a 4-6 putout.

Lefty · « **Reply #8 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:54:34 pm »

This inning has been intriguing to say the least.

MRaup · « **Reply #9 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:55:00 pm »

Harold Reynolds is fucking D-R-U-N-K.

astrojo · « **Reply #10 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:55:22 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 14, 2015, 05:51:54 pm

Gonna lose that protest. That was a live ball.

Agreed. Ump never should have signaled dead ball. Choo was in the box preparing to bat, his bat was in the box, and there was zero intent for interference.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #11 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:56:34 pm »

And Bautista with a 3-run jack to give the Jays a 6-3 lead...four unearned runs after getting what should have been five outs.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #12 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:59:04 pm »

I like Jose Bautista.

astrojo · « **Reply #13 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:59:29 pm »

Brutal.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #14 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:59:33 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 14, 2015, 05:59:04 pm

I like Jose Bautista.

Right now, I do too.

BudGirl · « **Reply #15 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:59:53 pm »

This is only going to get uglier.

astrojo · « **Reply #16 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:01:03 pm »

And now benches clearing.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #17 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:02:17 pm »

Jose Bautista is welcome on my team anytime.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #18 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:03:06 pm »

Most bizarre inning of baseball I think I've ever seen...

BudGirl · « **Reply #19 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:03:11 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 14, 2015, 05:56:34 pm

And Bautista with a 3-run jack to give the Jays a 6-3 lead...four unearned runs after getting what should have been five outs.

isn't it only 3? i was thinking the HR was earned but the additional 2 rbi's unearned.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #20 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:04:08 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on October 14, 2015, 05:59:53 pm

This is only going to get uglier.

Blue Jays fans throwing sht on the field (repeatedly) are begging for some extreme retribution by the BBGs...

WVastro · « **Reply #21 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:04:57 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on October 14, 2015, 06:03:06 pm

Most bizarre inning of baseball I think I've ever seen...

No joke. When an ump calls a play dead, does that not make the rest irrelevant? I'm not asking an Ashby question. I'd honestly like to know.

MRaup · « **Reply #22 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:05:50 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on October 14, 2015, 06:03:11 pm

isn't it only 3? i was thinking the HR was earned but the additional 2 rbi's unearned.

3 errors = 3 outs. Inning should've been over.

Andrus error on grounder.

Mooreland spikes throw.

Andrus drops throw at 3rd.

3 outs, donezo.

BudGirl · « **Reply #23 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:07:58 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on October 14, 2015, 06:05:50 pm

3 errors = 3 outs. Inning should've been over.

Andrus error on grounder.

Mooreland spikes throw.

Andrus drops throw at 3rd.

3 outs, donezo.

I get the three runs that should have been outs, but i was wondering why the fourth run (Bautista) was counted as unearned? would run have been unearned at that point?

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #24 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:08:57 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on October 14, 2015, 06:07:58 pm

I get the three runs that should have been outs, but i was wondering why the fourth run (Bautista) was counted as unearned? would run have been unearned at that point?

Any run that happens after an error that should end an inning is unearned.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #25 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:10:31 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on October 14, 2015, 06:03:11 pm

isn't it only 3? i was thinking the HR was earned but the additional 2 rbi's unearned.

They're all unearned as they all came after the third out should have been made. There's a whole bit in the scoring rules about runs scored after an inning was extended due to an error. In this case, three errors.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #26 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:13:06 pm »

Quote from: WVastro on October 14, 2015, 06:04:57 pm

No joke. When an ump calls a play dead, does that not make the rest irrelevant? I'm not asking an Ashby question. I'd honestly like to know.

No. It wasn't a dead ball, and Odor scored. Replay overturns umpires' calls all the time.

WVastro · « **Reply #27 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:18:24 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 14, 2015, 06:13:06 pm

No. It wasn't a dead ball, and Odor scored. Replay overturns umpires' calls all the time.

Thanks!

Thoroughly enjoying the chaos in this game however. Baseball never ceases to amaze.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #28 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:27:17 pm »

The kid Osuna comes in and Ks Hamilton and Andrus to end the Arlington threat. 6-3 BJs mid 8.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #29 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:28:34 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 14, 2015, 06:13:06 pm

No. It wasn't a dead ball, and Odor scored. Replay overturns umpires' calls all the time.

I thought an umpire's call of time deadened the ball and nothing can happen.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #30 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:44:41 pm »

Rainjizz eliminated.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #31 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:45:37 pm »

Fuck the strangers. At the very goddamn least, we know for a fact we wont have to go back to that shithole in Arlington this season.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #32 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:46:12 pm »

Suck on that Cole Hamels, you sorry ass piece of dumb fucking shit.

WVastro · « **Reply #33 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:50:51 pm »

My daughter asked me who I'd root for if the world depended on me. Cardinals or Rangers? I contemplated introducing the concept of suicide. Luckily, that won't have to happen.

My answer was an Ashbian deflection about her dislike of mayonnaise or spicy mustard. She dropped it.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #34 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:51:36 pm »

Too young to learn about meteor strikes I guess?

The Spleen · « **Reply #35 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:52:01 pm »

That was some professional grade dickstomping...

BudGirl · « **Reply #36 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:52:04 pm »

thanks all!

chuck · « **Reply #37 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:23:44 pm »

Quote from: WVastro on October 14, 2015, 06:50:51 pm

My daughter asked me who I'd root for if the world depended on me. Cardinals or Rangers? I contemplated introducing the concept of suicide. Luckily, that won't have to happen.

For me that is a laughably easy call. The Thirds, every time. They have won 39 WS and their fans cannot possibly get any more insufferable. Rangers, zero and counting, and their fans, annoying as they are, still find themselves in the surprised to be rooting for a decent team stage. Imagine how horrible MMP would be during a Rangers series if those dickwits ever won anything.

WVastro · « **Reply #38 on:** October 14, 2015, 09:20:35 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 14, 2015, 07:23:44 pm

For me that is a laughably easy call. The Thirds, every time. They have won 39 WS and their fans cannot possibly get any more insufferable. Rangers, zero and counting, and their fans, annoying as they are, still find themselves in the surprised to be rooting for a decent team stage. Imagine how horrible MMP would be during a Rangers series if those dickwits ever won anything.

Mind if I read this to her? (Slightly edited?)

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #39 on:** October 14, 2015, 10:49:04 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on October 14, 2015, 06:28:34 pm

I thought an umpire's call of time deadened the ball and nothing can happen.

Not in the middle of a live ball play. You can't call time until the play is over.

And while this play is rare, it's one of those things every catcher knows or should know. Throwing the ball into the batter does not kill the play.

homer · « **Reply #40 on:** October 14, 2015, 10:58:13 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 14, 2015, 10:49:04 pm

Not in the middle of a live ball play. You can't call time until the play is over.

The umpire, all on his own, jumped out from behind the plate and called the play dead.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #41 on:** October 14, 2015, 11:35:30 pm »

Quote from: homer on October 14, 2015, 10:58:13 pm

The umpire, all on his own, jumped out from behind the plate and called the play dead.

But that doesn't stop the play. Its still a live ball.

WVastro · « **Reply #42 on:** October 14, 2015, 11:45:12 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 14, 2015, 11:35:30 pm

But that doesn't stop the play. Its still a live ball.

This is what got me with that play ultimately. As a viewer (and far from a player) I just didn't understand how an ump can clearly say "stop playing baseball!" And everybody continues regardless. There was no play to be made on Odor (I hate that it was Odor) but what if a play was possible? Was that part of the review? Whatever. I'm glad it ultimately didn't matter.

T. J. · « **Reply #43 on:** October 15, 2015, 10:36:27 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 14, 2015, 11:35:30 pm

But that doesn't stop the play. Its still a live ball.

Well, kinda. He did call the play dead, but rule 5.02 covers it.

(5.02) While the ball is dead no player may be put out, no bases may be run and no runs may be scored, except that runners may advance one or more bases as the result of acts which occurred while the ball was alive (such as, but not limited to a balk, an over- throw, interference, or a home run or other fair ball hit out of the playing field).

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #44 on:** October 15, 2015, 10:42:08 am »

Quote from: T. J. on October 15, 2015, 10:36:27 am

Well, kinda. He did call the play dead, but rule 5.02 covers it.

(5.02) While the ball is dead no player may be put out, no bases may be run and no runs may be scored, except that runners may advance one or more bases as the result of acts which occurred while the ball was alive (such as, but not limited to a balk, an over- throw, interference, or a home run or other fair ball hit out of the playing field).

That's what I mean. You can't stop a play in progress, even if the umpire calls time. The ball is not dead until the play is over, and runners can advance, or be put out, as a result of what happens during the play.