Halos @ Astros September 21, 2015

[Mr. Happy]

Your lineups for tonight's tilt:

Halos

SSErick Aybar (S)
RFKole Calhoun (L)
CFMike Trout (R)
DHAlbert Pujols (R)
1BC.J. Cron (R)
3BDavid Freese (R)
LFShane Victorino (S)
CCarlos Perez (R)
2BT. Featherston (R)

LAA: Jered Weaver (R)  (7-11, 4.74)

Astros

2B Jose Altuve (R)
RF George Springer (R)
SS Carlos Correa (R)
3B Jed Lowrie (S)
LF Colby Rasmus (L)
DH Evan Gattis (R)
1B Luis Valbuena (L)
C Jason Castro (L)
CF Jake Marisnick (R)

HOU: Dallas Keuchel (L)  (17-8, 2.56)

[HudsonHawk]

T1:

Aybar singles to RCF
Wild pitch, Aybar to 2B, Castros jogs after it, and Aybar tries for 3B but is OUT...2-5
Calhoun stikes out swinging
Trout smokes one on the ground past Lowrie
Pujols flies out F8 on the Hill

No score

[hostros7]

Wonder if Trout has ever spent much time with Fondlin' Jared Fogel as a result of their work for Subway.


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[hostros7]

Aybar's decision to try and advance two bases costs the Angels a run.


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[hostros7]

Ump decides to call strike 3 against springer on the exact same location of pitch that he called a ball 2 times prior in the at bat.


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[HudsonHawk]

B1:

Altuve lines one deep in the LCF gap, but Victorino with a running over the shoulder catch
Springer...3-0...swings through the 84 mph heater for strike two...and is called out on ball four
Correa...late on that 83 mph "fastball" right down the middle...lines one off the LF wall for a single, tries to stretch it and is about half way when the ball gets to second base, so he just stops and is tagged out.

No score after 1

[hostros7]

Angel Hernandez is the HPU, btw.


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[HudsonHawk]

Ump decides to call strike 3 against springer on the exact same location of pitch that he called a ball 2 times prior in the at bat.


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Angel of Death behind the plate tonight

[HudsonHawk]

T2:

Cron pops out F1
Freese strikes out swinging
Victorino bounces out 1-3

Still no score

[hostros7]

Dallas makes the play on the high hopper he botched against the Rangers that sent the wheels flying off.


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[hostros7]

Angel of Death behind the plate tonight

Potential for death by 1,000 paper cuts with weaver on the mound and angel behind the plate.


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[HudsonHawk]

Every hitter so far has taken an 84 mph fastball right down the center for strike one.

[HudsonHawk]

CAPTAN CAAAAAAVEMAAAAN!!!!

[hostros7]

Gattis!


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[hostros7]

He smoked that off the LF fair pole.


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[hostros7]

@darenw: Evan Gattis HR was 107 MPH off the bat... Tied for his 3rd hardest HR of the year.


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[HudsonHawk]

B2:

Lowrie flies out F7
Rasmus walks
Gattis homers off the LF fowl pole, Rasmus scores
Valbuena lines out to 1B
Castro...full count...called out on a pitch at his eye level

After two...Astros up 2-0

[HudsonHawk]

Angel Hernandez in HOF cocksucking form tonight.

[HudsonHawk]

Keuchel not looking sharp early.

[HudsonHawk]

T3:

Perez singles into RCF
Featherston strikes out swinging
Aybar strikes out swinging, but it bounces, and Castro doesn't even try to block it, wild pitch and Perez moves to 2B
Calhoun grounds out 3U

2-0 Astros

[HudsonHawk]

Aybar was bitching at Hernandez and looked over to the dugout...Scioscia says "why the fuck are you looking over here...let's go"

[HudsonHawk]

Altuve's baserunning dick stomping cost a run early.

[HudsonHawk]

CORREA!!!!!

[hostros7]

Correa hits home runs on pitches he doesn't even hit that well.


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[HudsonHawk]

B3:

Marisnick grounds out on the first pitch, 3-1
Altuve...3-0 pitch...doubles off the LF wall...if he's running out of the box, it's a triple
Altuve picked off of 2B...1-4-5-6
Springer...full count...singles to LCF
Correa hammers an 0-2 pitch out to RCF
Lowrie...blown away by a 76 mph fastball for strike two, strikes out swinging at bouncer at his feet

But the Astros tack on two more...lead 4-0 after three

[HudsonHawk]

Correa hits home runs on pitches he doesn't even hit that well.


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I guess you and I are the only ones watching the game.

[Ebby Calvin]

I guess you and I are the only ones watching the game.

Nope.

[HudsonHawk]

Nope.

Well don't just sit there...let's here a little chatter!

[doyce7]

Has there ever been a better/more promising rookie than correa in an astros uniform? I'm only 24 so take this with a grain of salt. He's the best rookie by far I've seen, maybe on any team. Maybe one of you more seasoned vets can come up with other options?

[Ebby Calvin]

Well don't just sit there...let's here a little chatter!

Go Astros!

[HudsonHawk]

T4:

Trout strikes out swinging
Pujols grounds out 5-3
Cron walks on four pitches
Freese...full count...strikes out swinging

4-0 Astros

[HudsonHawk]

Has there ever been a better/more promising rookie than correa in an astros uniform? I'm only 24 so take this with a grain of salt. He's the best rookie by far I've seen, maybe on any team. Maybe one of you more seasoned vets can come up with other options?

You probably don't remember, but the Astros used to have a guy named Bagwell who was pretty good as a rookie.  Won an award or something forit.

[doyce7]

You probably don't remember, but the Astros used to have a guy named Bagwell who was pretty good as a rookie.  Won an award or something forit.

I was born that year. My first memories of bags is from around 96 or 97. Best rookies I remember are oswalt and berkman.

[doyce7]

You probably don't remember, but the Astros used to have a guy named Bagwell who was pretty good as a rookie.  Won an award or something forit.

How does correa compare in your mind to bags from 91?

[HudsonHawk]

B4:

Rasmus flies out F9 at the wall
Gattis flies out F9 just barely off the infield dirt
Valbuena grounds out 3U

After four...4-0 Astros

[HudsonHawk]

OK...I gotta get on a call...someone grab PBP, if'n you wanna.

[hostros7]

Bagwell was 3 or so years older, fwiw.


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[doyce7]

T5
Victorino grounds out to Altuve on the SS side of 2B
Perez grounds out chopper to keuchel
Featherston grounds out valbuena to keuchel

[hostros7]

Top 5:
Victorino grounds out to Altuve (at short due to shift).

Perez grounds out to Keuchel.

Featherston grounds to Valbuena who flips to Keuchel for the put out at first.

4-0 Astros heading to the bottom.



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[hostros7]

Doyce, you take pbp (if you want to)


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[HudsonHawk]

How does correa compare in your mind to bags from 91?

Different type of players, and obviously different positions.  He's more advanced at the same age as Bagwell, as has been pointed out, Bagwell was several years older.  Correa has more speed and will probably hit for a higher average, though Bagwell had more raw power. 

And I'm not really trying to compare them, just pointing out another time the Astros had  top notch rookie. 

[jbm]

Has there ever been a better/more promising rookie than correa in an astros uniform? I'm only 24 so take this with a grain of salt. He's the best rookie by far I've seen, maybe on any team. Maybe one of you more seasoned vets can come up with other options?

Doesn't take a seasoned vet, but McCullers belongs in that conversation.

[doyce7]

Doyce, you take pbp (if you want to)


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I'll take it for a bit. Probably only for a few innings before I have to step out also

[doyce7]

Doesn't take a seasoned vet, but McCullers belongs in that conversation.

I would agree with that. Mccullers has been great

[hostros7]

Why is angel softly caressing Scioscia's beer belly?


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[doyce7]

B5
Castro pops out
Marisnick walks
Altuve singles between 3B and short, two on one out
Springer singles on a ball in the hole that kicks off freeze's glove into right field, Marisnick scores

Correa flies out to right on a full count
Lowrie singles on a liner to right but Altuve is gunned down at the plate

Astros 5 angels 0

[Ron Brand]

What are  you yingyangs up to?

[juliogotay]

Doesn't take a seasoned vet, but McCullers belongs in that conversation.

I don't know if he does. Not to take anything away from McCullers but the Astros have had a few promising rookie pitchers that accomplished as much or more in their ronokie season. Richard, Dierker, Tom Griffin was very promising before his arm problems. Bagwell and Correa are on different tiers.

[Ron Brand]

Meuchel is sawing logs.

[chuck]

I don't have specific memories of Cesar Cedeño as a rookie but he was pretty fucking good.

I guess if you have to go back nearly 50 years to find someone that sort of makes the point.

[austro]

Meuchel is sawing logs.

That's Keuchelangelo to you, Mr. Brand.

[Ron Brand]

BudGirl and NeilT say hi.

[chuck]

What are  you yingyangs up to?

You finally made bail?

[Ron Brand]

That's Keuchelangelo to you, Mr. Brand.

I saw that, edited it, and it still posted wrong.

[Ron Brand]

You finally made bail?

Fuck bail, I broke out. No cell can hold me!

[austro]

BudGirl and NeilT say hi.

Be sure to offer to fetch a Frito pie for Neil.

[juliogotay]

I don't have specific memories of Cesar Cedeño as a rookie but he was pretty fucking good.

I guess if you have to go back nearly 50 years to find someone that sort of makes the point.

n
Cedeno is really, in my mind, a better comparison for Correa than Bagwell. Bagwell was a very good rookie but I don't think anyone could project what he would become from his rookie year.

[hostros7]

BudGirl and NeilT say hi.

Tell them to keep up god's work: eating frito pie.


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[Texifornia]

Has there ever been a better/more promising rookie than correa in an astros uniform? I'm only 24 so take this with a grain of salt. He's the best rookie by far I've seen, maybe on any team. Maybe one of you more seasoned vets can come up with other options?

The only one I can think of is Caesar Cedeno. He was only 18 when he came up and was amazing. I think Correa is a better overall player, though.

[Ron Brand]

Be sure to offer to fetch a Frito pie for Neil.

He said he's on Day 3.

[Ron Brand]

Fuck Pujols.

[chuck]

Be sure to offer to fetch a Frito pie for Neil.

And probably a colonoscopy.

[doyce7]

T6
Aybar breaks two bats and then gets an infield single
Calhoun grounds out to valbuena who throws to keuchel covering. Wasn't pretty as the ball was more towards 2B.
Trout trout singles to left, aybar advances to 3B
Pujols chops to short, no chance at DP, bounces the throw to 1B but valbuena snags it, aybar scores, trout to 2B
Cron on a full count flies out to center

Astros 5 angels 1

[jbm]

I don't know if he does. Not to take anything away from McCullers but the Astros have had a few promising rookie pitchers that accomplished as much or more in their ronokie season. Richard, Dierker, Tom Griffin was very promising before his arm problems. Bagwell and Correa are on different tiers.

Didn't see enough of Dierker or Griffen, but J.R. was every bit as good as Bagwell, prior to his stroke.

[Ron Brand]

Goddamn it's loud in here. And not because of the crowd.

[juliogotay]

Didn't see enough of Dierker or Griffen, but J.R. was every bit as good as Bagwell, prior to his stroke.

Those guys pitched alot of innings as rookies too. They were not protective of them.

[hostros7]

I'm drinking Jolly Pumpkin Baudelaire io tonight. My only quibble was going to be that at 6.5% the ABV is a little low, but so far the Jared Weaver Astros experience has been slightly more tolerable than anticipated.


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[Ron Brand]

Ok, I just wanted to do a drive-by. See you next year!

[hostros7]

Which brings me back to my point: did anyone try that St Arnold's BBH that is Endeavor aged in gin barrels?


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[doyce7]

B6

Rasmus K's looking
Gattis K's swinging
Valbuena singles between 3B and short
Weaver is done
Cesar Ramos in to pitch
Castro K's swinging

Astros 5 angels 1

[chuck]

Goddamn it's loud in here. And not because of the crowd.

After a few games I think you'll find that your tinnitus blocks most of it out.

[doyce7]

It gotta step out if anybody wants to take pbp and bring us home

[HudsonHawk]

It gotta step out if anybody wants to take pbp and bring us home

I'm back, I'll grab it

[HudsonHawk]

T7:

Freese grounds out 5-3
Victorino pops out F4
Perez taps back to the box...1-3

At the stretch...Astros up 5-1

[HudsonHawk]

Is Gary Rossington the only original Skynyrd member left?

[Texifornia]

I see Dallas has improved his fielding since his last outing against the Angels.

[HudsonHawk]

Fuck...Altuve grabbing his hamstring

[hostros7]

Hope it's just a bruise or strawberry


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[Tom Servo]

Fuck...Altuve grabbing his hamstring

Looks like he landed on his shoe when he slid.  Don't think it's a hamstring.

[hostros7]

Can the man get another pair of pants?


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[Tom Servo]

Lowrie has looked awful on some swings tonight.

[HudsonHawk]

B7:

Marisnick strikes out swinging
Altuve triples off the RF wall
Springer pops out F3 in foul ground
Correa doubles to RF, Altuve scores
Lowrie whiffs to end the inning

6-1 Astros

[chuck]

The Colts are horrible. The Texans picked a bad year to suck again.

[HudsonHawk]

Looks like he landed on his shoe when he slid.  Don't think it's a hamstring.

Looks like a nice big strawberry, not a pulled hammy or anything.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Is Gary Rossington the only original Skynyrd member left?

Yes.

[Tom Servo]

Looks like a nice big strawberry, not a pulled hammy or anything.

And we all breathe a sigh of relief.  That would not have been good.

[HudsonHawk]

Keuchel out, Neshek in.  Would be nice to see Neshek  pitch well.

[HudsonHawk]

T8:

Iannetta, pinch hitting for Featherston, grounds out 6-3
Aybar grounds out 6-3
Calhoun flairs one to LCF for a single

That's it for Keuchel, Neshek in

Trout flies out F9 on the first pitch.

6-1 Astros

[chuck]

Over the past couple of weeks and completely without warning mlb.tv has been sucking rancid rhino cock. All of my other streaming platforms work great, including (especially) NFL's Gamepass.

[Tom Servo]

Over the past couple of weeks and completely without warning mlb.tv has been sucking rancid rhino cock. All of my other streaming platforms work great, including (especially) NFL's Gamepass.

MLB.tv has been sucking on and off all year for me.  It's by far been the worst year ever for me.   I may just do the Extra Innings thing with Comcast next year.

[HudsonHawk]

Over the past couple of weeks and completely without warning mlb.tv has been sucking rancid rhino cock. All of my other streaming platforms work great, including (especially) NFL's Gamepass.

Rancid Rhino Cock?  I saw them back at the old Maceba Theater in 1986. 

[HudsonHawk]

MLB.tv has been sucking on and off all year for me.  It's by far been the worst year ever for me.   I may just do the Extra Innings thing with Comcast next year.

Worked pretty good for me this year.  I don't watch it all the time, but have had no trouble this year on extended trips to California, Tennessee and Thailand. 

[chuck]

Rancid Rhino Cock?  I saw them back at the old Maceba Theater in 1986.

Yeah, they opened for the Indigo Girls, right?

Did you ever see a show there? I would have liked to have but I'd split town by the time that joint was hosting shows. I did see a few at the Tower Theater.

[HudsonHawk]

B8:

Wesley Wright in to pitch...

Rasmus grounds out 3-1
Gattis pops out F4
Valbuena...full count...draws a 2-out walk
Castro grounds out 3-1

To the 9th...6-1 Astros

[Tom Servo]

Worked pretty good for me this year.  I don't watch it all the time, but have had no trouble this year on extended trips to California, Tennessee and Thailand.

That's odd.  I have tried it on different devices, mainly the PS4 and the Apple TV.  Both of them tend to suck (at times.  sometimes it's fine).  Maybe it's just something in my area.  But Netflix and Hulu are perfect.  No problems there.

[Tom Servo]

Also, Wesley Wright still looks like a little kid.

[HudsonHawk]

Did you ever see a show there? I would have liked to have but I'd split town by the time that joint was hosting shows. I did see a few at the Tower Theater.

Lots of them.  That was back in my roadie days.  Everyone from New Order to Peter Murphy to  Jeffrey Osborne.  Worked a Slayer show there in about 1988 when the audience set the seats on fire. 

I saw Dream Theater for the first time at the Tower. 

[HudsonHawk]

That's odd.  I have tried it on different devices, mainly the PS4 and the Apple TV.  Both of them tend to suck (at times.  sometimes it's fine).  Maybe it's just something in my area.  But Netflix and Hulu are perfect.  No problems there.

Worked fine on my iPad, even internationally.  I've watched some on Roku, no problems.

[chuck]

Fields is in. The game's over. Book it, Danno.

[chuck]

Lots of them.  That was back in my roadie days.  Everyone from New Order to Peter Murphy to  Jeffrey Osborne.  Worked a Slayer show there in about 1988 when the audience set the seats on fire. 

I saw Dream Theater for the first time at the Tower.

How many people did it hold?

[Nate in IA]

Worked fine on my iPad, even internationally.  I've watched some on Roku, no problems.

I'm watching mlb.tv on the web and it is mostly good but has buffering problems every once in a while and when it comes back the video is degraded.   It is often worse on Roku.   And I don't have a slouch internet service.   I think they just didn't anticipate the growth of the media this year.

[HudsonHawk]

Fields just threw a 96 mph fastball over everyone's head and I imagined Castro telling Cron..."seriously...I don't know where it's gonna go."

[Nate in IA]

Of course Freese hits it almost out after strike 3 was called a ball.

[HudsonHawk]

How many people did it hold?

800...1,000 maybe. 

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Freese never makes the last out.

[Tom Servo]

Of course Freese hits it almost out after strike 3 was called a ball.

I didn't think he had gotten that much of it.  Surprised me it went as far as it did. 

[HudsonHawk]

Of course Freese hits it almost out after strike 3 was called a ball.

And a couple of hits now, after Brownie reminds us that the Astros scored 5 runs with 2 out, down to their last strike in the 9th...

[HudsonHawk]

And after two quick outs, the Angels have the tying run on deck.

[HudsonHawk]

Perez in for a save opportunity

[Tom Servo]

This is getting stupid

[chuck]

I think they just didn't anticipate the growth of the media this year.

That's pretty much my point. These people are fuckwits and always have been. The NFL package works great as do other services not run by fuckwits like Amazon and Netflix.

[HudsonHawk]

Now 6-3...tying run at the plate.

[hostros7]

How did he score when ball was in altuve's mitt and Murphy still only a few feet off 3B?  Rhetorical


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[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

I wouldn't have pitched Perez against the righty. I would bring in Gregerson now.

[HudsonHawk]

I wouldn't have pitched Perez against the righty. I would bring in Gregerson now.

Perez has to face at least one batter.

[hostros7]

Don't let trout get an AB.


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[chuck]

Hoyer makes Fitzpatrick look like Joe Montana.

[HudsonHawk]

Don't let trout get an AB.


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Trout's in the hold.

[HudsonHawk]

T9:

Fields in...

Pujols flies out F8
Cron ...full count...strikes out swinging
Freese doubles to deep LCF
Murphy, pinch hitting for Victorino, singles to CF, Freese scores
Perez...full count...walks

That's it for Fields, Perez in

Cowgill, pinch hitting for someone...single to RF...Murphy to 3B, Perez to 2B...but Perez keeps going to 3B...two runners at 3B, but the Astros fuck it up and Murphy scores...Astros challenge, but they're gonna lose...yep, safe

That's it for Perez, Gregerson in

Aybar grounds out 4-3

Astros win!!!

[Tom Servo]

Good job, Luke.

That was more tense than it needed to be. 

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Whew!

[chuck]

800...1,000 maybe.

What would be today's equivalent, the Warehouse?

[HudsonHawk]

What would be today's equivalent, the Warehouse?

Man, I have no idea what's out there these days. I guess the Warehouse would be about the same size, but the Maceba had actual theater seating, it wasn't a club or anything.  It was a little bigger than #s and more of a "concert" feel. 

[JimR]

I wouldn't have pitched Perez against the righty. I would bring in Gregerson now.

You can't. Perez has to face a hitter.

[Mr. Happy]

Has there ever been a better/more promising rookie than correa in an astros uniform? I'm only 24 so take this with a grain of salt. He's the best rookie by far I've seen, maybe on any team. Maybe one of you more seasoned vets can come up with other options?

I'll lay a name on you from the distant past: Cesar Cedeno. When that kid came up, he was dripping wet with talent.

[Mr. Happy]

I don't have specific memories of Cesar Cedeño as a rookie but he was pretty fucking good.

I guess if you have to go back nearly 50 years to find someone that sort of makes the point.

I remember Cedeno well. Those first two years, he was lights out good. A five tool player.

[David in Jackson]

Oliver Perez.  Why?  Why is he on this team?

[JimR]

Oliver Perez.  Why?  Why is he on this team?

I want him on the team. that was a bloop single. you must have been a great pitcher back in the day. are you saying this about Neshek too?

[JimR]

I don't have specific memories of Cesar Cedeño as a rookie but he was pretty fucking good.

I guess if you have to go back nearly 50 years to find someone that sort of makes the point.

Cedeno was terrible when he first came up at 19. I remember making one of my famous predictions to Mark's mom during a game at the Dome: the Astros have ruined him by bringing him up too soon. HA!

[JimR]

Altuve's baserunning dick stomping cost a run early.

yes. I get pissed at him regularly.

[JimR]

After a few games I think you'll find that your tinnitus blocks most of it out.

I do not care who you are, this is funny!

[Duman]

Cedeno was terrible when he first came up at 19. I remember making one of my famous predictions to Mark's mom during a game at the Dome: the Astros have ruined him by bringing him up too soon. HA!

I checked out his BR page today.  He was solid at 19.  Hit .310/.340/.451 in 90 games (Correa is currently hitting .279/.345/.507 in 88 games at age 20).  Finished 4th in Rookie of the Year voting.  Improved at 20 and then took off at 21.  4 straight Gold Gloves, All Star 3 of the 4 years.  Finished 6th in MVP voting in 72, 11th in 73, 16th in 74 and 25th in 76.  Never had a great year after that but never had a really bad year either.  Finished 17 year career with a .285/.347/.443 slash line.  Wonder what his power stats would have looked like in MMP instead of the Dome.

[JimR]

I checked out his BR page today.  He was solid at 19.  Hit .310/.340/.451 in 90 games (Correa is currently hitting .279/.345/.507 in 88 games at age 20).  Finished 4th in Rookie of the Year voting.  Improved at 20 and then took off at 21.  4 straight Gold Gloves, All Star 3 of the 4 years.  Finished 6th in MVP voting in 72, 11th in 73, 16th in 74 and 25th in 76.  Never had a great year after that but never had a really bad year either.  Finished 17 year career with a .285/.347/.443 slash line.  Wonder what his power stats would have looked like in MMP instead of the Dome.

I said "when he first came up" and I recounted the story to show how wrong I was. he struck out a lot early on but then settled in.

[Duman]

I said "when he first came up" and I recounted the story to show how wrong I was. he struck out a lot early on but then settled in.

I notice that you had said that.  I was just giving context for his early career.