Author Topic: Texans 2015 (Read 30154 times)

MusicMan · « **on:** September 13, 2015, 01:09:44 pm »

I only thought the Longhorn's offense was ass. Compared to the Texans, they are only skim ass, or 2% ass at worst.

This Texans offense is pure, unpasteurized, 100% whole ass.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #1 on:** September 13, 2015, 01:51:12 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on September 13, 2015, 01:09:44 pm

I only thought the Longhorn's offense was ass. Compared to the Texans, they are only skim ass, or 2% ass at worst.

This Texans offense is pure, unpasteurized, 100% whole ass.

Without Foster they are totally inept.

chuck · « **Reply #2 on:** September 13, 2015, 01:56:39 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on September 13, 2015, 01:51:12 pm

Without Foster they are totally inept.

I knew that given the quarterback situation the loss of Foster would result in a deplorable offense. However I expected the defense to be pretty good but so far as a unit they have been bad bordering on terrible.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #3 on:** September 13, 2015, 02:04:56 pm »

Quote from: chuck on September 13, 2015, 01:56:39 pm

I knew that given the quarterback situation the loss of Foster would result in a deplorable offense. However I expected the defense to be pretty good but so far as a unit they have been bad bordering on terrible.

I think they're straddling that border.

MusicMan · « **Reply #4 on:** September 13, 2015, 02:09:25 pm »

Quote from: chuck on September 13, 2015, 01:56:39 pm

I knew that given the quarterback situation the loss of Foster would result in a deplorable offense. However I expected the defense to be pretty good but so far as a unit they have been bad bordering on terrible.

Hoyer gave them 14 of the 27 points, but yes, they've been bad.

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chuck · « **Reply #5 on:** September 13, 2015, 02:21:33 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on September 13, 2015, 02:09:25 pm

Hoyer gave them 14 of the 27 points, but yes, they've been bad.

The Chiefs took a total of three plays to score two touchdowns after those two turnovers so the defense didn't exactly man up after those Hoyer mistakes.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #6 on:** September 13, 2015, 02:39:13 pm »

I thought the defense would be pretty good and exciting, instead they seem rather average and commonplace.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #7 on:** September 13, 2015, 02:44:38 pm »

Third and 22, time for the draw play to the FB!

Limey · « **Reply #8 on:** September 14, 2015, 11:38:22 am »

Quote from: chuck on September 13, 2015, 02:21:33 pm

The Chiefs took a total of three plays to score two touchdowns after those two turnovers so the defense didn't exactly man up after those Hoyer mistakes.

The Chiefs bated the defense with draw plays, that they bit on with the enthusiasm of a coked-up puppy. However, once they calmed down, they did what they should have been doing all along, and shut down the Chiefs completely. Smith was running for his life and sacked a bunch of times.

The offense was awful: limited pass protection and no penetration off the line - hence no ability to run the ball. Hoyer is not good, we still have no tight end worth a fuck and without Foster's smarts our running game consists of a series of rectal examinations for Ben Jones. Oh, and special teams continues to be a joke - capped when the Chiefs' punt returner dropped the ball and was able to pick it up and run for a return longer than any we mustered all game.

I hope that O'Brien didn't blow all his anger and frustration at the ref just before halftime; the team deserved to get the lion's share of that hairdryer job.

One day, the Texans will realise what the league - literally, the NFL - knows; that a QB is the most valuable member of the team. Maybe we need to start a #failforcardale campaign...

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #9 on:** September 14, 2015, 01:11:20 pm »

The defense was not particularly, good, but in their defense, two of the TDs had to go less than 15 yards, and they limited Jamal Charles to 57 yards on 16 carries. If you'd have told me that before the game, I'd have taken it in a heartbeat. They also made good adjustments at halftime. If the offense just stays off their dicks...doesn't play well, doesn't even not play terrible, just doesn't stomp their own scrotums, it's 13-10 at halftime, certainly a manageable game.

Special teams was awful. Limey hit the lowlights, but Bullock missing the extra point and nearly clanking the field goal at the end...punt coverage was putrid.

Offense....if I could say one thing to Bill O'Brien, it'd be "what the fuck did you expect?" This is the QB you've chosen.

On the plus side...good job on challenges, and clock management wasn't an issue.

MusicMan · « **Reply #10 on:** September 14, 2015, 01:32:15 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on September 14, 2015, 01:11:20 pm

Offense....if I could say one thing to Bill O'Brien, it'd be "what the fuck did you expect?" This is the QB you've chosen.

For three years, Rick Smith has actively chosen to have no QB. This man still has a job.

hostros7 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 14, 2015, 01:44:11 pm »

I realized yesterday how fucked our team is when I saw how now Bob and Cal come down to the sideline for "fist bumps" with JJ after he does his stupid run into the corner and scream at the fans before kick-off.

Limey · « **Reply #12 on:** September 14, 2015, 02:35:06 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on September 14, 2015, 01:11:20 pm

On the plus side...good job on challenges, and clock management wasn't an issue.

Not to take away from good decision-making by the coaches - but WTF was going on with the officials? The deHopkins catch looked good from my perch in the club level, and that non-call on PI at the end of the half was a joke. Can't remember who was shaping for the catch, but they'd stopped, turned around to face the incoming ball and were about to receive it before getting wiped out by the cornerback. It could not have been more blatant.

Of course, that would've given the Texans a 1st and goal from the 1...

Limey · « **Reply #13 on:** September 14, 2015, 02:37:43 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on September 14, 2015, 01:32:15 pm

For three years, Rick Smith has actively chosen to have no QB. This man still has a job.

Was Hoyer on Smith or O'Brien? I'd always assumed the latter due to their past affiliation,

I'd been deluding myself all preseason that Hoyer would be good enough to win behind this defense; i.e. lots of possession, few points to overcome and some help on that front from the D. I was not expecting the second coming of Schaub.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #14 on:** September 14, 2015, 02:48:38 pm »

Quote from: Limey on September 14, 2015, 02:37:43 pm

Was Hoyer on Smith or O'Brien? I'd always assumed the latter due to their past affiliation,

I'd been deluding myself all preseason that Hoyer would be good enough to win behind this defense; i.e. lots of possession, few points to overcome and some help on that front from the D. I was not expecting the second coming of Schaub.

Hoyer is better than Schaub's last season here, and he's better than Fitzpatrick. But not by a lot. I don't know if Mallett is the answer or not, but at least Mallett brings something to the table that the others do not. When Mallett is on the field, the defense has to defend plays they do not have to with Hoyer. I think that gives them more options down the field, and it opens up the running game more.

And speaking of running, I'm a fan of Jonathan Grimes. I think he can be their most productive RB while Foster is out.

chuck · « **Reply #15 on:** September 14, 2015, 02:58:00 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on September 14, 2015, 02:48:38 pm

...and he's better than Fitzpatrick.

I strongly do not believe that this is the case.

I do agree that Mallett gives the defense problems that the others do not. Of course he apparently also gives the offense problems that the others do not, hence their electing to start with Hoyer. But I see no sense in continuing with Hoyer. He has no upside at all. Can Mallett reach his upside? I don't know. Probably not. But it is considerably higher than Hoyer's.

The team isn't going to play any meaningful games this year so I think the obvious move is stay with Mallett. If Savage weren't hurt I would be stumping for him.

Grimes is better than Blue. I think Polk has shown the most of any of them but basically I'm in the anyone but Blue camp.

Limey · « **Reply #16 on:** September 14, 2015, 03:06:16 pm »

Quote from: chuck on September 14, 2015, 02:58:00 pm

Grimes is better than Blue. I think Polk has shown the most of any of them but basically I'm in the anyone but Blue camp.

I and, more importantly, Mrs Limey, are fans of Grimes - on and off the field.

Blue may be the dumbest running back I've ever seen. Let that sink in for a moment...

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2015, 02:20:53 pm »

According to reports, Mallett to start Sunday against Carolina.

That didn't take long.

Limey · « **Reply #18 on:** September 16, 2015, 02:58:22 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on September 16, 2015, 02:20:53 pm

According to reports, Mallett to start Sunday against Carolina.

That didn't take long.

I expect these two to do-si-do all season; such is their equivalent mediocrity. If Savage was fit, it would be a three-way.

The Spleen · « **Reply #19 on:** September 16, 2015, 04:04:24 pm »

"Quarterbacks are a crutch!"

-Bill O'Brien

MusicMan · « **Reply #20 on:** September 17, 2015, 11:54:39 am »

Quote from: Limey on September 16, 2015, 02:58:22 pm

I expect these two to do-si-do all season; such is their equivalent mediocrity. If Savage was fit, it would be a three-way.

Savage is far worse than the other 2. Hard as it may be to believe.

Limey · « **Reply #21 on:** September 17, 2015, 12:58:39 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on September 16, 2015, 02:20:53 pm

According to reports, Mallett to start Sunday against Carolina.

That didn't take long.

Texans have confirmed that this is the case.

The Spleen · « **Reply #22 on:** September 17, 2015, 01:02:11 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on September 17, 2015, 11:54:39 am

Savage is far worse than the other 2. Hard as it may be to believe.

Worse than cancer. More final than death. Tom Savage.

austro · « **Reply #23 on:** September 17, 2015, 08:32:45 pm »

Wonder how those Broncos fans are liking that Kubiak hire now?

chuck · « **Reply #24 on:** September 17, 2015, 08:55:05 pm »

Quote from: austro on September 17, 2015, 08:32:45 pm

Wonder how those Broncos fans are liking that Kubiak hire now?

Watching Peyton try to run that offense is hilarious.

But the Chiefs' profound stupidity has given the Broncos a chance to go into halftime tied.

austro · « **Reply #25 on:** September 17, 2015, 08:57:17 pm »

Quote from: chuck on September 17, 2015, 08:55:05 pm

Watching Peyton try to run that offense is hilarious.

But the Chiefs' profound stupidity has given the Broncos a chance to go into halftime tied.

It's time for Barnwell to resurrect his "Thank You For Not Coaching" bit over at Grantland. He's got no shortage of material.

chuck · « **Reply #26 on:** September 17, 2015, 10:51:06 pm »

Andy Reid is the dumbest fucking Mormon on the face of the earth.

austro · « **Reply #27 on:** September 18, 2015, 07:14:41 am »

Quote from: chuck on September 17, 2015, 10:51:06 pm

Andy Reid is the dumbest fucking Mormon on the face of the earth.

Well, the fumble wasn't Reid's fault, but what a spectacular collapse. I know I saw at least three Manning flutterballs that KC DBs just dropped, and there were probably more that I didn't see. Combined with the red zone turnovers, you can't say KC didn't have their chances.

Limey · « **Reply #28 on:** September 18, 2015, 09:06:12 am »

Quote from: austro on September 18, 2015, 07:14:41 am

Well, the fumble wasn't Reid's fault, but what a spectacular collapse. I know I saw at least three Manning flutterballs that KC DBs just dropped, and there were probably more that I didn't see. Combined with the red zone turnovers, you can't say KC didn't have their chances.

This is the team that emptied NRG Stadium at halftime 5 days ago. They neutered our offense and were notably better at special teams.

Let that sink in for a while...

chuck · « **Reply #29 on:** September 18, 2015, 10:59:07 am »

Quote from: austro on September 18, 2015, 07:14:41 am

Well, the fumble wasn't Reid's fault, but what a spectacular collapse.

You're on your own 20 with 40 seconds to go in a tied game. What are you doing trying to advance the ball? Kneel it out and go meet at midfield for the flip.

Passing the ball at the end of the first half was nearly as stupid.

And BOB got outcoached by this guy.

MusicMan · « **Reply #30 on:** September 18, 2015, 01:45:27 pm »

The Texans have finally come to their senses and are ditching the grass for field turf going forward.

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hostros7 · « **Reply #31 on:** September 20, 2015, 01:51:41 pm »

I've been flipping back and forth between the Astros and Texans since the start of the baseball game. Not sure why because this offense is putrid.

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Limey · « **Reply #32 on:** September 21, 2015, 09:43:42 am »

The offense is making the defense look bad. The D is giving up a good ration of points per minute, and in a normal world they would be holding teams to low totals, but they're on the field for 3/4trs of the game!

Foster coming back should help, but maybe O'Brien needs to have a stern chat with his offensive coordinator and coaches, because this offense is incompetence personified.

hostros7 · « **Reply #33 on:** September 21, 2015, 09:50:58 am »

Quote from: Limey on September 21, 2015, 09:43:42 am

The offense is making the defense look bad. The D is giving up a good ration of points per minute, and in a normal world they would be holding teams to low totals, but they're on the field for 3/4trs of the game!

Foster coming back should help, but maybe O'Brien needs to have a stern chat with his offensive coordinator and coaches, because this offense is incompetence personified.

The Panthers double teamed Watt and Clowney on almost every play. So, if it takes 4 players to stop 2 Texans, it's completely apparent how worthless all of the other Texans front 7 players truly must be, because they didn't do dick.

MusicMan · « **Reply #34 on:** September 21, 2015, 10:13:12 am »

Quote from: hostros7 on September 21, 2015, 09:50:58 am

it's completely apparent how worthless all of the other Texans front 7 players truly must be, because they didn't do dick.

Brian Cushing is the second-highest paid linebacker in the NFL.

Good job, Rick.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #35 on:** September 21, 2015, 11:10:57 am »

Quote from: hostros7 on September 21, 2015, 09:50:58 am

The Panthers double teamed Watt and Clowney on almost every play. So, if it takes 4 players to stop 2 Texans, it's completely apparent how worthless all of the other Texans front 7 players truly must be, because they didn't do dick.

People keep talking about the "front 7"...actually, they're very strong on the front 4 (yes I know technically they're a 3-4, but Clowney is essentially playing defensive end), but they are brutal at linebacker. And as bad as they are at linebacker, they comically worse in the secondary.

austro · « **Reply #36 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:21:04 pm »

Now Hopkins is out for Sunday's game? They won't manage 100 yards passing.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #37 on:** September 24, 2015, 05:35:13 am »

Quote from: austro on September 23, 2015, 08:21:04 pm

Now Hopkins is out for Sunday's game? They won't manage 100 yards passing.

Rest assured...this is the Buccaneers' secondary we are talking about here.

MusicMan · « **Reply #38 on:** September 24, 2015, 08:04:39 am »

Quote from: austro on September 23, 2015, 08:21:04 pm

Now Hopkins is out for Sunday's game? They won't manage 100 yards passing.

Wait, what?

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Bench · « **Reply #39 on:** September 24, 2015, 02:58:15 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on September 24, 2015, 08:04:39 am

Wait, what?

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From Berman's twitter: Nate Washington on DeAndre Hopkins: "like a hostage situation. If he's a hostage right now we/re going in to get him.

austro · « **Reply #40 on:** September 24, 2015, 07:07:53 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on September 24, 2015, 08:04:39 am

Wait, what?

Apparently he suffered a concussion last Sunday. It's not clear where he is in the protocol, or whether he'll be allowed to play this weekend.

hostros7 · « **Reply #41 on:** September 29, 2015, 04:21:52 pm »

Bullock cut and replaced by Nick Novak. Just really gold star quality work on the part of the front office to draft a kicker in the 5th round who is cut a couple years later. That's the "outside the box" type think that is the hallmark of championship franchises.

MusicMan · « **Reply #42 on:** September 30, 2015, 09:37:45 am »

Quote from: hostros7 on September 29, 2015, 04:21:52 pm

Bullock cut and replaced by Nick Novak. Just really gold star quality work on the part of the front office to draft a kicker in the 5th round who is cut a couple years later. That's the "outside the box" type think that is the hallmark of championship franchises.

If you're looking for front office accountability, you're rooting for the wrong team.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #43 on:** September 30, 2015, 09:53:58 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on September 30, 2015, 09:37:45 am

If you're looking for front office accountability, you're rooting for the wrong team.

Similar to if you're looking for quality in your 2nd-5th round draft picks. You needed help at CB, so you went out and got Brandon Harris and Roc Carmichael...both gone. You needed help on the D-line, so you got Louis Nix...gone. You needed help at guard, so you shot your wad on Xavier Su'a Filo...can't beat out the scrubs on the waiver wire. You needed help at WR, so you traded up for Jaelen Strong...can't get on the field on a team that is comically weak at WR. The list goes on and on...

jbm · « **Reply #44 on:** September 30, 2015, 10:38:45 am »

Not sure this team is comically weak at WR, but yes, they do a pretty shitty job in the draft, and manage to retain their jobs.

Limey · « **Reply #45 on:** September 30, 2015, 11:01:51 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on September 30, 2015, 09:53:58 am

Similar to if you're looking for quality in your 2nd-5th round draft picks. You needed help at CB, so you went out and got Brandon Harris and Roc Carmichael...both gone. You needed help on the D-line, so you got Louis Nix...gone. You needed help at guard, so you shot your wad on Xavier Su'a Filo...can't beat out the scrubs on the waiver wire. You needed help at WR, so you traded up for Jaelen Strong...can't get on the field on a team that is comically weak at WR. The list goes on and on...

The franchise has never had a quarterback of any repute, and usually has one who who would not be a starter on any other team in the league. We haven't had a tight end since Daniels left.

Unless and until McNair wakes up and fires the GM and all his cronies, this team will go nowhere.

austro · « **Reply #46 on:** October 04, 2015, 12:50:54 pm »

This team is indescribably bad.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #47 on:** October 04, 2015, 01:23:25 pm »

Putrid. Insult to injury is going to be drafting a weenie QB.

chuck · « **Reply #48 on:** October 04, 2015, 01:43:11 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on October 04, 2015, 01:23:25 pm

Putrid. Insult to injury is going to be drafting a weenie QB.

I doubt they'll draft a quarterback. BOB knows that his clock doesn't start until he commits to 'his' quarterback. And on Planet McNair what happens on the field is not of primary importance.

MusicMan · « **Reply #49 on:** October 04, 2015, 02:08:29 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 04, 2015, 01:43:11 pm

I doubt they'll draft a quarterback. BOB knows that his clock doesn't start until he commits to 'his' quarterback. And on Planet McNair what happens on the field is not of primary importance.

Is there a devout Christian available in the draft? #priorities

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Limey · « **Reply #50 on:** October 09, 2015, 10:13:41 am »

1-4

How did they ever win one?

MusicMan · « **Reply #51 on:** October 09, 2015, 10:39:05 am »

Quote from: Limey on October 09, 2015, 10:13:41 am

1-4

How did they ever win one?

Tampa some how sucks even more.

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Limey · « **Reply #52 on:** October 09, 2015, 02:19:29 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 09, 2015, 10:39:05 am

Tampa some how sucks even more.

I've just come from a charity event where Rick Smith was one of the community sponsors. I think I speak for everyone in the room when I say it was so hard no to walk up to him and say, simply, "WTF?!!!"

The Spleen · « **Reply #53 on:** October 09, 2015, 09:28:58 pm »

This whole "a real quarterback is a crutch" thing has worked out just how you'd expect it to.

Bill O'Brien needs to be fired. Preferably out of a cannon, but a trebuchet will do in a pinch...

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #54 on:** October 10, 2015, 09:25:36 am »

In the last 30 years of Houston sports, where would you rank McNair as an owner?

This franchise is wretched, I can not believe people are willing to pay money to attend Bob's shitshow. It has to the least entertaining professional franchise in the any sport. IT starts at the top with the culture that McNair has brought. Boring, sterile, utra conservative.

Just a godawful tearfully boring product.

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Limey · « **Reply #55 on:** October 13, 2015, 08:57:04 am »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on October 10, 2015, 09:25:36 am

This franchise is wretched, I can not believe people are willing to pay money to attend Bob's shitshow.

The stadium is sold out to us season ticket holders. The reluctance to give up the tickets is because maybe they'll be good one year, and you piss down the drain the PSL.

It's an incredibly smart marketing plan because it completely negates elasticity of demand.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #56 on:** October 13, 2015, 12:13:51 pm »

Understand, guess you are stuck. How hard is it these days to sell your tickets at face value on the secondary market.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #57 on:** October 13, 2015, 12:34:04 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on October 13, 2015, 12:13:51 pm

Understand, guess you are stuck. How hard is it these days to sell your tickets at face value on the secondary market.

You can easily sell them at a premium on the secondary market. No one is forcing anyone to purchase tickets to Texans games.

Limey · « **Reply #58 on:** October 13, 2015, 01:53:45 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2015, 12:34:04 pm

You can easily sell them at a premium on the secondary market. No one is forcing anyone to purchase tickets to Texans games.

Mine are hard to sell lately - unless I want to take a big hit - because they're in the club and so have a limited market. A market that shrinks with every dick-stomping loss these guys put up.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #59 on:** October 13, 2015, 02:46:38 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 13, 2015, 01:53:45 pm

Mine are hard to sell lately - unless I want to take a big hit - because they're in the club and so have a limited market. A market that shrinks with every dick-stomping loss these guys put up.

I have a hard time developing any sympathy for you. I was a Saints season ticket holder back in the late 70's to mid-90's and saw some pretty rotten football, including the Aints season of 1980 where we went 1-15. just go and have fun.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #60 on:** October 13, 2015, 03:10:24 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 13, 2015, 01:53:45 pm

Mine are hard to sell lately - unless I want to take a big hit - because they're in the club and so have a limited market. A market that shrinks with every dick-stomping loss these guys put up.

First world problems...

GreatBagwellsBeard · « **Reply #61 on:** October 13, 2015, 04:53:15 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2015, 03:10:24 pm

First world problems...

Since when did New Orleans join the first world?

Limey · « **Reply #62 on:** October 14, 2015, 09:10:38 am »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on October 13, 2015, 02:46:38 pm

I have a hard time developing any sympathy for you. I was a Saints season ticket holder back in the late 70's to mid-90's and saw some pretty rotten football, including the Aints season of 1980 where we went 1-15. just go and have fun.

No worries; I wasn't looking for sympathy. Just channeling Chuck and speaking as to why McNair doesn't really have to do anything with the team because the big money streams - TV money and ticket sales - are all maxed out and won't change materially even with a Super Bowl win.

Limey · « **Reply #63 on:** October 14, 2015, 09:10:52 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2015, 03:10:24 pm

First world problems...

Big time.

chuck · « **Reply #64 on:** October 14, 2015, 11:07:50 am »

Quote from: Limey on October 14, 2015, 09:10:38 am

No worries; I wasn't looking for sympathy. Just channeling Chuck and speaking as to why McNair doesn't really have to do anything with the team because the big money streams - TV money and ticket sales - are all maxed out and won't change materially even with a Super Bowl win.

Impressive display of self control, what, to have avoided sharing my remarks thus far.

Or maybe it's just apathy.

Bench · « **Reply #65 on:** October 14, 2015, 04:57:40 pm »

Meanwhile, Berman just retweeted a Fox 26 report that McNair "has made a substantial donation to forces opposing the HERO ordinance."

chuck · « **Reply #66 on:** October 14, 2015, 05:58:19 pm »

Quote from: Bench on October 14, 2015, 04:57:40 pm

Meanwhile, Berman just retweeted a Fox 26 report that McNair "has made a substantial donation to forces opposing the HERO ordinance."

That motherfucker gave half a million dollars to Lindsey Graham. That's the level of dementia we're dealing with.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #67 on:** October 14, 2015, 06:35:43 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 14, 2015, 05:58:19 pm

That motherfucker gave half a million dollars to Lindsey Graham. That's the level of dementia we're dealing with.

It's nice for chuck that even though he has to abandon all his principles in rooting for this extremely fun team of Crane's, he still has the hapless Texans to rail on (and undeniably rightly so).

Limey · « **Reply #68 on:** October 16, 2015, 11:09:47 am »

*** Breaking News ***

O'Brien has named Hoyer as the Texans' QB to take at least the first snap against the Jaguars on Sunday.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #69 on:** October 16, 2015, 05:56:05 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 14, 2015, 05:58:19 pm

That motherfucker gave half a million dollars to Lindsey Graham. That's the level of dementia we're dealing with.

I still hate the Cowboys owner more... Fuck. I wish there was a NFL team I could get excited to root for.

MusicMan · « **Reply #70 on:** October 16, 2015, 06:14:22 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 14, 2015, 05:58:19 pm

That motherfucker gave half a million dollars to Lindsey Graham. That's the level of dementia we're dealing with.

I wish I had that kind of money to waste on hopeless causes.

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Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #71 on:** October 16, 2015, 07:04:05 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 16, 2015, 06:14:22 pm

I wish I had that kind of money to waste on hopeless causes.

Me too. No matter how unworthy the hopeless cause may be.

austro · « **Reply #72 on:** October 18, 2015, 02:37:26 pm »

Rick Smith is a buffoon, but he made the right call on DeAndre Hopkins.

Bench · « **Reply #73 on:** October 23, 2015, 02:15:59 pm »

Quote from: Bench on October 14, 2015, 04:57:40 pm

Meanwhile, Berman just retweeted a Fox 26 report that McNair "has made a substantial donation to forces opposing the HERO ordinance."

McNair rescinded his donation to the anti-HERO campaign:

His statement (excerpted):

"I recently made a personal contribution to Campaign for Houston because my thorough review of the HERO ordinance led me to believe that a thoughtful rewrite would provide a better ordinance that would provide strong non-discrimination protections for all Houstonians, which I would support, and would be less divisive of our city.
It was on these principles that I made my personal contribution to Campaign for Houston. To my great dismay, Campaign for Houston made numerous unauthorized statements about my opposition to HERO in print, broadcast and social media – including attributing certain statements of belief to me. Their actions and statements were never discussed with nor approved by me. Therefore I instructed the Campaign to return my contribution."

chuck · « **Reply #74 on:** October 23, 2015, 11:34:49 pm »

What a fucking shitstain.

MusicMan · « **Reply #75 on:** October 25, 2015, 12:33:34 pm »

Texans forgot to make the trip to Miami. Maybe they were too busy campaigning.

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Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #76 on:** October 25, 2015, 12:34:00 pm »

The first half of the first quarter has been putrid in every aspect of the game. I can't honestly think of one play that has been "good".

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #77 on:** October 25, 2015, 01:15:34 pm »

Shitty owner. Shitty GM. Shitty coach.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #78 on:** October 25, 2015, 01:50:47 pm »

Biggest piece of shit franchise in pro sports. What an utter disgrace.

chuck · « **Reply #79 on:** October 25, 2015, 01:55:27 pm »

Bigoted fucking shitstain owner, ignorant fucking sheep who pay to support this disgusting abortion.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #80 on:** October 25, 2015, 02:35:20 pm »

The thing that make him a shitty owner is that he doesn't care about winning.

austro · « **Reply #81 on:** October 25, 2015, 02:40:18 pm »

Is it too soon to ask whether O'Brien has what it takes to do the job?

chuck · « **Reply #82 on:** October 25, 2015, 03:05:22 pm »

Quote from: austro on October 25, 2015, 02:40:18 pm

Is it too soon to ask whether O'Brien has what it takes to do the job?

No. He's in over his head but so is everyone else in any position of authority.

hostros7 · « **Reply #83 on:** October 25, 2015, 03:12:07 pm »

It's a hollow organization bereft of any capable leadership at any level.

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MusicMan · « **Reply #84 on:** October 25, 2015, 09:20:11 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 25, 2015, 02:35:20 pm

The thing that make him a shitty owner is that he doesn't care about winning.

Correct.

The bigotry makes him a shitty person, but that's a separate matter.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #85 on:** October 26, 2015, 06:30:17 am »

Quote from: austro on October 25, 2015, 02:40:18 pm

Is it too soon to ask whether O'Brien has what it takes to do the job?

The emperor's had no clothes on for over a year now. O'Brien is so far in over his head he makes Ray Handley look like Vince Lombardi.

Duke · « **Reply #86 on:** October 26, 2015, 08:24:45 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 26, 2015, 06:30:17 am

The emperor's had no clothes on for over a year now. O'Brien is so far in over his head he makes Ray Handley look like Vince Lombardi.

I don't understand his sideline demeanor. Just stands there with that stupid look on his face. Then he keeps Foster in at the end of the game when it's meaningless.

I want to pull for the Texans but I just can't get behind them. First it was the Aggie coach and now they just suck. It's hard to believe with all the draft picks that Houston has not had a quarterback since Warren Moon.

Limey · « **Reply #87 on:** October 26, 2015, 09:39:58 am »

Quote from: Duke on October 26, 2015, 08:24:45 am

I don't understand his sideline demeanor. Just stands there with that stupid look on his face. Then he keeps Foster in at the end of the game when it's meaningless.

I have a strong liking for O'Brien, but I don't know enough about coaching to rate him at that. He's better than Kubiak, that's for damn sure, and having a dumb look on your face watching this team play is mostly universal. Leaving Foster in was not a mistake, though, as the Texans were having a tilt at winning the game. He got hurt breaking off the line, which could've happened at any time.

Quote from: Duke on October 26, 2015, 08:24:45 am

I want to pull for the Texans but I just can't get behind them. First it was the Aggie coach and now they just suck. It's hard to believe with all the draft picks that Houston has not had a quarterback since Warren Moon.

That's on Rick Smith, who has deserved the boot for a long while now. He consistently fails to assemble a major league squad - QB being the most glaring omission.

Limey · « **Reply #88 on:** October 26, 2015, 09:41:09 am »

Time to clean house. Fire Rick Smith, get a proper GM who knows WTF he's doing and then tank the rest of the season for the #1 pick. Spend it on a QB, either in the draft or via trade.

MusicMan · « **Reply #89 on:** October 26, 2015, 11:51:42 am »

Quote from: Limey on October 26, 2015, 09:39:58 am

He's better than Kubiak, that's for damn sure,

Im no longer convinced of this. Kubiak's teams never got blown completely out of the game the way this one consistently does.

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Clark in Denver · « **Reply #90 on:** October 26, 2015, 11:55:33 am »

Quote from: Limey on October 26, 2015, 09:41:09 am

Time to clean house. Fire Rick Smith, get a proper GM who knows WTF he's doing and then tank the rest of the season for the #1 pick. Spend it on a QB, either in the draft or via trade.

My understanding is that BOB is making the personnel decisions, not Rick Smith.

roadrunner · « **Reply #91 on:** October 26, 2015, 12:49:16 pm »

What roles do GMs have in football anyways? It always seems like the head coaches are the ones with all the power.

I don't know if it's preparation or what, but BOB is consistently putting together a team and gameplan that are outmatched from the first snap of the game.

The Spleen · « **Reply #92 on:** October 26, 2015, 12:51:28 pm »

O'Brien is trying to build his team as if he was still at Penn State and the objective was to finish a strong second in the Big 10 to Ohio State and make it to a bowl game that's not named after a garden tool. But the NFL doesn't quite work that way. First of all, you need a real quarterback...

Clark in Denver · « **Reply #93 on:** October 26, 2015, 01:57:31 pm »

Quote from: roadrunner on October 26, 2015, 12:49:16 pm

What roles do GMs have in football anyways? It always seems like the head coaches are the ones with all the power.

I don't know if it's preparation or what, but BOB is consistently putting together a team and gameplan that are outmatched from the first snap of the game.

It depends on the team. Some GM's are responsible for selecting player personnel, but others defer to the coach and are responsible for the contract negotiation, salary cap management, overseeing the scouting departments, etc.

jbm · « **Reply #94 on:** October 26, 2015, 02:00:22 pm »

Quote from: The Spleen on October 26, 2015, 12:51:28 pm

O'Brien is trying to build his team as if he was still at Penn State and the objective was to finish a strong second in the Big 10 to Ohio State and make it to a bowl game that's not named after a garden tool. But the NFL doesn't quite work that way. First of all, you need a real quarterback...

Their problems run far deeper than QB. It's a breakdown in almost every area. One could make an argument that they need major help at every position, except defensive end and Hopkins. Basically, it's been the same story for years. Seems hopeless.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #95 on:** October 26, 2015, 02:07:28 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 26, 2015, 11:51:42 am

Im no longer convinced of this. Kubiak's teams never got blown completely out of the game the way this one consistently does.

Kubiak managed to squeeze 6-8 wins out of 14-win talent. That's extraordinary. O'Brien doesn't have near the talent Kubiak did. And I'll say this for OB...as unprepared as they are at the start of games, he and his staff knows how to make in-game adjustments. Kubiak was just the opposite. Kubiak was simply outcoached, in every aspect, by every other coach in the league.

Kubiak had no brains. OB appears to have no heart. McNair has no courage. Dorothy would do a better job.

hostros7 · « **Reply #96 on:** October 26, 2015, 02:17:39 pm »

Quote from: jbm on October 26, 2015, 02:00:22 pm

Their problems run far deeper than QB. It's a breakdown in almost every area. One could make an argument that they need major help at every position, except defensive end and Hopkins. Basically, it's been the same story for years. Seems hopeless.

Look at the defense for example:
JJ Watt - 1st round pick, huge contract
Clowney - 1st overall pick
Wilfork - FA $$
J Joe - FA $$$
Johnson - 1st round pick
Jackson - 1st round pick
Cushing - 1st round pick, big extension

When considering draft picks and financial commitment, the organization has made a huge investment in the defense. Other than Arian's contract, Hop's 1st round pick, and Duane Brown's 1st round pick, the major investments made on this roster have all been on the defensive side of the football. The defensive performance yesterday was one of the worst that I've ever seen watching the NFL. So, the organization should ask itself, how is the defense, which we've invested nearly all of our resources in putting together, capable of that abortion of a performance yesterday, one that is not entirely dissimilar from all the games this year not played in Jacksonville? The only conclusions available are that you have a) the wrong coaches managing those resources, b) did a poor job assessing talent in the draft and signing free agents, including extensions to your own players, or c) a combination of the two. My money is most definitely on option C, but not to address either A or B by firing/re-assigning Crennel or Rick Smith is a major organizational failure that starts at the top.

hostros7 · « **Reply #97 on:** October 26, 2015, 08:47:56 pm »

@ChronBrianSmith: O'Brien tried and wanted to cut Mallett on Saturday after he missed team plane. GM Rick Smith wouldn't allow it and overruled #Texans' coach

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austro · « **Reply #98 on:** October 26, 2015, 08:56:43 pm »

My guess is that Mallett gets cut the day after the game going into the bye. That will allow them to bring somebody else in and get him up to speed.

Did Mallett at least blame the missed flight on the rain?

MusicMan · « **Reply #99 on:** October 26, 2015, 09:27:23 pm »

Quote from: austro on October 26, 2015, 08:56:43 pm

Did Mallett at least blame the missed flight on the rain?

Blame it on the rain? Only worked for Milli Vanilli.

Limey · « **Reply #100 on:** October 26, 2015, 09:45:16 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on October 26, 2015, 08:47:56 pm

@ChronBrianSmith: O'Brien tried and wanted to cut Mallett on Saturday after he missed team plane. GM Rick Smith wouldn't allow it and overruled #Texans' coach

I guess that answers the question of who cares nitrous the roster decisions.

IMHO, Mallett should've been cut the day he didn't show up for practice.

Ebby Calvin · « **Reply #101 on:** October 26, 2015, 10:04:26 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 26, 2015, 09:45:16 pm

I guess that answers the question of who cares nitrous the roster decisions.

I don't know what that autocorrected from, but I'm glad "nitrous" is in your recent dictionary.

Limey · « **Reply #102 on:** October 27, 2015, 09:06:02 am »

Quote from: Ebby Calvin on October 26, 2015, 10:04:26 pm

I don't know what that autocorrected from, but I'm glad "nitrous" is in your recent dictionary.

Never even saw that happen. I think it was meant to be "has control of"; how it got to "cares nitrous" - which should be an actual phrase - I have no idea.

At least it didn't autocorrect to "midget goat porn".

homer · « **Reply #103 on:** October 27, 2015, 09:15:52 am »

Quote from: Limey on October 27, 2015, 09:06:02 am

At least it didn't autocorrect to "midget goat porn".

Are the goats tiny and peoples regular size? Or are midget peoples having relations with normal size goats?

MusicMan · « **Reply #104 on:** October 27, 2015, 09:33:45 am »

At least they're tanking properly.

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Limey · « **Reply #105 on:** October 27, 2015, 09:40:18 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 27, 2015, 09:33:45 am

At least they're tanking properly.

Losing the AFC South is going to be much, much harder than winning it.

Bench · « **Reply #106 on:** October 27, 2015, 11:51:05 am »

Quote from: hostros7 on October 26, 2015, 08:47:56 pm

@ChronBrianSmith: O'Brien tried and wanted to cut Mallett on Saturday after he missed team plane. GM Rick Smith wouldn't allow it and overruled #Texans' coach

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Looks like BOB got his wish. Mallett cut, according to the twitterverse.

hostros7 · « **Reply #107 on:** October 27, 2015, 12:03:30 pm »

@MarkBermanFox26: Have confirmed #Texans signing T.J. Yates as the team's backup QB replacing Ryan Mallett who was released.

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Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #108 on:** October 27, 2015, 12:05:46 pm »

I wonder what the Texans roster would look like, if instead of letting Rick Smith make picks, the just put the draft in auto-mode and just used McShay/Kiper/Whomevers rankings make the picks for them.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #109 on:** October 27, 2015, 12:26:39 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 26, 2015, 09:45:16 pm

I guess that answers the question of who cares nitrous the roster decisions.

IMHO, Mallett should've been cut the day he didn't show up for practice.

Who did you think made roster decisions?

Limey · « **Reply #110 on:** October 27, 2015, 04:18:50 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 27, 2015, 12:26:39 pm

Who did you think made roster decisions?

It was suggested in here that O'Brien held those reins, when I'd always thought is was the GM's job.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #111 on:** October 27, 2015, 04:28:54 pm »

O'Brien wanted Mallet, Smith got him.

Limey · « **Reply #112 on:** October 27, 2015, 05:07:39 pm »

The the shock of ones of people, OB and Smith aren't on the best of terms.

Warning: If ou're in a good mood, don't read this article.

Limey · « **Reply #113 on:** October 27, 2015, 05:10:38 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 27, 2015, 04:28:54 pm

O'Brien wanted Mallet, Smith got him.

He was merely completing his collection of Patriot back-ups.

Dark Star · « **Reply #114 on:** October 28, 2015, 07:53:42 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 26, 2015, 09:27:23 pm

Blame it on the rain? Only worked for Milli Vanilli.

For a while.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #115 on:** October 28, 2015, 09:09:36 am »

I just hope the situation spirals to the point they have to fire everyone. Who can fire McNair?

Limey · « **Reply #116 on:** October 28, 2015, 09:22:16 am »

Quote from: Dark Star on October 28, 2015, 07:53:42 am

For a while.

Yeah. I heard that wasn't really them dancing on the videos.

chuck · « **Reply #117 on:** October 28, 2015, 10:38:49 am »

Quote from: Limey on October 28, 2015, 09:22:16 am

Yeah. I heard that wasn't really them dancing on the videos.

Two fakes eventually get uncovered and only one of them survives. There are parallels one could run with if one were so inclined.

Limey · « **Reply #118 on:** October 28, 2015, 01:15:35 pm »

Texans confirmed that they've signed Yates. Maybe he'll get a shot now, instead of being left out to dry by Kubiak. He won a playoff game once...

hostros7 · « **Reply #119 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:31:58 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 28, 2015, 01:15:35 pm

Texans confirmed that they've signed Yates. Maybe he'll get a shot now, instead of being left out to dry by Kubiak. He won a playoff game once...

He's the anti-Ryan Mallet:
- good guy
- solid teammate
- respected in the locker room
- hard worker
- pretty sharp
- short on talent

I wouldn't get your hopes up. He had peak Arian at his disposal and the best Texans defense ever to take the field when that playoff game was won.

austro · « **Reply #120 on:** October 29, 2015, 09:36:40 pm »

Dolphins probably thought they were pretty good after last week's game, particularly on offense. The distance between the Texans and the Patriots is measured on an astronomical scale.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #121 on:** October 30, 2015, 08:12:51 am »

The Patriots are in such a FU mood, they could break whatever the modern record for points is when they play the Texans.

MusicMan · « **Reply #122 on:** October 30, 2015, 10:57:46 am »

I'm seriously considering wagering an absurdly large amount of money on Patriots-Texans.

Lefty · « **Reply #123 on:** October 30, 2015, 11:19:44 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 30, 2015, 10:57:46 am

I'm seriously considering wagering an absurdly large amount of money on Patriots-Texans.

What would the line have to be to *not* take the Patriots?

hostros7 · « **Reply #124 on:** October 30, 2015, 11:56:14 am »

Quote from: Lefty on October 30, 2015, 11:19:44 am

What would the line have to be to *not* take the Patriots?

This article shows the widest spreads in history. Only two of the eleven favorites covered in games presented. The most lopsided favorite was the Broncos (-28) against the Jags in 2013. The Patriots have provided some memorable streaks for the gambling community -- most notably perhaps, the 2008 Pats/Over parlay that paid out nearly every week (IIRC) until the game listed here against Miami of all teams which was 1-14.

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http://www.si.com/nfl/photos/2013/10/14/biggest-point-spreads-nfl-history

Limey · « **Reply #125 on:** October 30, 2015, 02:13:02 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on October 30, 2015, 11:56:14 am

This article shows the widest spreads in history. Only two of the eleven favorites covered in games presented. The most lopsided favorite was the Broncos (-28) against the Jags in 2013. The Patriots have provided some memorable streaks for the gambling community -- most notably perhaps, the 2008 Pats/Over parlay that paid out nearly every week (IIRC) until the game listed here against Miami of all teams which was 1-14.

So, basically, the Texans represent a banana skin in front of those who bet on the Pats.

If I was inclined to bet (which I'm not), I'd bet a small amount on the Texans and get stupid odds.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #126 on:** October 30, 2015, 04:00:32 pm »

Most points scored in a NFL game (Superbowl era) is 62. It has happened 4 times. Of course O'Brien's friendship with Brady and Belicheck probably preclude them from running it up that much.

MusicMan · « **Reply #127 on:** November 01, 2015, 08:02:38 pm »

Watching Titans-Texans was like watching a pillow fight between 2 quadriplegics.

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Limey · « **Reply #128 on:** November 02, 2015, 08:58:58 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on November 01, 2015, 08:02:38 pm

Watching Titans-Texans was like watching a pillow fight between 2 quadriplegics.

It was awful. Hoyer is a less-talented Schaub: he makes quick, bad decisions but isn't as tall/strong.

The defense is better with Clowney off the field.

The Titans have a worse QB than we do.

DeAndre Hopkins may be better than AJ.

Alfred Blue is one of the dumbest RBs I've ever seen, and that's a low bar.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #129 on:** November 16, 2015, 10:28:12 pm »

T.J. Yates!!!!!

chuck · « **Reply #130 on:** November 16, 2015, 10:51:20 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on November 16, 2015, 10:28:12 pm

T.J. Yates!!!!!

I wonder how many of the current Texans even knew who he was before last week. Hell, before today.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #131 on:** November 16, 2015, 11:08:24 pm »

Quote from: chuck on November 16, 2015, 10:51:20 pm

I wonder how many of the current Texans even knew who he was before last week. Hell, before today.

The only offensive player left from that 2011 team that I can think of off the top of my head is Duane Brown. On defense...you have Watt, Cushing, Joseph...but that's about it.

Limey · « **Reply #132 on:** November 17, 2015, 12:05:22 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on November 16, 2015, 10:28:12 pm

T.J. Yates!!!!!

He kills more Bengals than Minnesota dentists.

Limey · « **Reply #133 on:** November 17, 2015, 12:10:12 pm »

Quote from: Limey on November 02, 2015, 08:58:58 am

It was awful. Hoyer is a less-talented Schaub: he makes quick, bad decisions but isn't as tall/strong.

The defense is better with Clowney off the field.

The Titans have a worse QB than we do.

DeAndre Hopkins may be better than AJ.

Alfred Blue is one of the dumbest RBs I've ever seen, and that's a low bar.

What was different from the Titans game was that Clowney wasn't available and Hoyer had time - and used it - in the pocket. Everything else remains true. Still not convinced that we make the game-winning TD drive with Hoyer under center, though.

Still, if Eifort hangs onto a couple of catches in the 4th queater, it's a different result. Regardless, that was a much better Texans' performance all round....once Hoyer remembered that DeAndre is on the field somewhere and probably open.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #134 on:** November 17, 2015, 12:13:58 pm »

Quote from: Limey on November 17, 2015, 12:05:22 pm

He kills more Bengals than Minnesota dentists.

So how many dentist has he killed, 2?

Limey · « **Reply #135 on:** November 17, 2015, 12:19:39 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on November 17, 2015, 12:13:58 pm

So how many dentist has he killed, 2?

At least.

BTW, what's the collective name for dentists; a drill?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #136 on:** November 17, 2015, 12:40:04 pm »

Quote from: Limey on November 17, 2015, 12:10:12 pm

What was different from the Titans game was that Clowney wasn't available and Hoyer had time - and used it - in the pocket. Everything else remains true. Still not convinced that we make the game-winning TD drive with Hoyer under center, though.

Still, if Eifort hangs onto a couple of catches in the 4th queater, it's a different result. Regardless, that was a much better Texans' performance all round....once Hoyer remembered that DeAndre is on the field somewhere and probably open.

Hoyer still has the same problem he's always had and that's the football seems glued to his hands. He holds on to it FOREVER, and every pass he throws is late. The ball is either behind the receiver or the receiver has to slow down, which usually means he's no longer open. He's also terrified to throw the ball more than 10 yards. So no, I don't think the Texans win that game with Hoyer in there all night.

Limey · « **Reply #137 on:** November 17, 2015, 02:28:13 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on November 17, 2015, 12:40:04 pm

Hoyer still has the same problem he's always had and that's the football seems glued to his hands. He holds on to it FOREVER, and every pass he throws is late. The ball is either behind the receiver or the receiver has to slow down, which usually means he's no longer open. He's also terrified to throw the ball more than 10 yards. So no, I don't think the Texans win that game with Hoyer in there all night.

He has a chronic double-clutch problem that stops him making snap-passes. Might explain some of the tardiness of his balls (NTTAWWT).

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #138 on:** November 20, 2015, 05:47:58 am »

Meanwhile, ex-Texan Case Keenum is replacing Nick Foles as the starter for the Rams.

Limey · « **Reply #139 on:** November 20, 2015, 08:59:18 am »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on November 20, 2015, 05:47:58 am

Meanwhile, ex-Texan Case Keenum is replacing Nick Foles as the starter for the Rams.

...and ex-Texan (and erstwhile Limey man-crush) Ryan Fitzpatrick starts against the Texans on Sunday.

Also, the Texans rescue Brandon Weeden from the Cowboys' dumpster, where he was thrown after not being able to re-take the starting job from Matt "oh and four" Cassell.

TJ Yates better be packed in bubblewrap between games.

Limey · « **Reply #140 on:** November 20, 2015, 11:11:03 am »

Quote from: Limey on November 02, 2015, 08:58:58 am

The defense is better with Clowney off the field.

It's not just me that's noticing...

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Whitney Mercilus has lived up to his surname since being granted greater pass-rushing responsibilities, and it will be interesting to see how coaches manage the reintegration of Jadeveon Clowney, returning from injury, in that context.

I hope he's left on the bench as much as possible. Clowney never penetrates the o-line and only seems to make tackles behind him once someone else has held up the runner. He also can't stay healthy for more than a quarter or two at a time. My opinion: cut him and move on.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #141 on:** November 20, 2015, 12:10:11 pm »

Quote from: Limey on November 20, 2015, 11:11:03 am

Clowney never penetrates the o-line and only seems to make tackles behind him once someone else has held up the runner. He also can't stay healthy for more than a quarter or two at a time. My opinion: cut him and move on.

You're watching different games than I am then. Clowney is consistently the one who *causes* other players to make plays behind the line, even if he's not the one to make them.

hostros7 · « **Reply #142 on:** November 20, 2015, 01:29:09 pm »

Quote from: Limey on November 20, 2015, 11:11:03 am

My opinion: cut him and move on.

His injuries have been frustrating, but there isn't a team in the league that wouldn't put in a waiver claim if the Texans were to cut him. He's been disruptive in his limited playing time. The challenge for the coaching staff will be to come up with schemes that allow both Clowney and Mercilus to thrive.

jbm · « **Reply #143 on:** November 20, 2015, 04:46:46 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on November 20, 2015, 12:10:11 pm

You're watching different games than I am then. Clowney is consistently the one who *causes* other players to make plays behind the line, even if he's not the one to make them.

I agree. Mercilus has been great, but Clowney has been just fine.

Their defense has been better, IMO, because their corners have been way better, the safeties and linebackers have started to actually tackle and Watt has been Watt, just with more assignment integrity.

austro · « **Reply #144 on:** November 20, 2015, 06:46:58 pm »

Quote from: jbm on November 20, 2015, 04:46:46 pm

I agree. Mercilus has been great, but Clowney has been just fine.

Their defense has been better, IMO, because their corners have been way better, the safeties and linebackers have started to actually tackle and Watt has been Watt, just with more assignment integrity.

The corners are actually covering people, and that has made all the difference in the world.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #145 on:** November 20, 2015, 07:03:28 pm »

For those of you who pay much closer attention to the Texans, considering what we know now about Mallett... why was he kept on the team for as long as he was?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #146 on:** November 21, 2015, 09:56:14 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on November 20, 2015, 07:03:28 pm

For those of you who pay much closer attention to the Texans, considering what we know now about Mallett... why was he kept on the team for as long as he was?

Because he has twice as much talent as any other QB they have.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #147 on:** November 22, 2015, 06:59:12 am »

Rams QB Nick Foles has the kind of talent Mallet has, and he is being benched in favor of Case Keenum.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #148 on:** November 22, 2015, 08:41:10 am »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on November 22, 2015, 06:59:12 am

Rams QB Nick Foles has the kind of talent Mallet has, and he is being benched in favor of Case Keenum.

Mallet has far more talent than Foles and Keenum put together. He has 10% the brains as either one of them. Mallet is not a star because he's a dumbass, not because he can't play QB.

Limey · « **Reply #149 on:** November 22, 2015, 04:00:41 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on November 20, 2015, 07:03:28 pm

For those of you who pay much closer attention to the Texans, considering what we know now about Mallett... why was he kept on the team for as long as he was?

Because he was 1 of 2 non-injured QBs. If Savage hadn't gone down, he'd have been cut a while back.

Limey · « **Reply #150 on:** November 22, 2015, 04:02:06 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on November 21, 2015, 09:56:14 pm

Because he has twice as much talent as any other QB they have.

Yates >>> Mallett.

Like Falco >>> Martel

Limey · « **Reply #151 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:08:01 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on November 22, 2015, 06:59:12 am

Rams QB Nick Foles has the kind of talent Mallet has, and he is being benched in favor of Case Keenum.

I thought that it was interesting to see, this weekend, that the former Texans' QBs who were overlooked by Kubiak in favour of Schaub - Yates and Keenum - were starting this weekend.

Meanwhile, Schaub has just slid into the Ravens' starting role after Flacco's season-ending injury. He'll start on MNF next week.

MusicMan · « **Reply #152 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:33:25 pm »

Quote from: Limey on November 23, 2015, 01:08:01 pm

Meanwhile, Schaub has just slid into the Ravens' starting role after Flacco's season-ending injury. He'll start on MNF next week.

Excuse me while I book a Vegas trip that will almost certainly pay for itself.

Limey · « **Reply #153 on:** December 14, 2015, 09:22:00 am »

Who stomped on their dick more last night: the Texans or the officials?

It seemed to me that the referees - either by accident or by design - favoured the Patriots on every 50/50 call. I was surprised that NY HQ overturned their on field fuck-ups; maybe it was just poor refereeing or maybe the calls were so obviously wrong that they could not let them stand in good conscience with a nation watching.

Meanwhile, the Texans offense plumbed new lows. Hoyer seems laser-focused on one small patch of the field whenever he drops back; he certainly wasn't watching for sacks coming from the non-blind side. Hopkins seemed intent on hiding behind the one guy covering him. To be fair, that corner had him for speed, so why not try a go-and-stop, come back for the catch and put some doubt in the corner's head, instead of everything being a dead-heat foot race?

Oh, and W...T...F... is up with that Hoyer in a wideout position play? They ran it twice last night. TWICE!

I know Foster is out, but they had some success running the ball early. What they couldn't do was pass, with the exception of a couple of nice completions to Washington and Griffin. Everything else was dogshit. That let the Pats stuff the line and we were then completely neutered. The 4-play series when gifted possession inside the Pats' 20 was an amazing sequence in which they stepped on their dick so hard that they tore it off, then they shot it, then they blew their own balls off just to make sure.

Now they have to go to Indy next week and win. Is this the team to finally break the Indy curse? I'm not betting on it.

MusicMan · « **Reply #154 on:** December 14, 2015, 10:27:58 am »

Quote from: Limey on December 14, 2015, 09:22:00 am

Who stomped on their dick more last night: the Texans or the officials?

They're both who we thought they were.

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HudsonHawk · « **Reply #155 on:** December 14, 2015, 05:30:13 pm »

Quote from: Limey on December 14, 2015, 09:22:00 am

Meanwhile, the Texans offense plumbed new lows. Hoyer seems laser-focused on one small patch of the field whenever he drops back; he certainly wasn't watching for sacks coming from the non-blind side....I know Foster is out, but they had some success running the ball early. What they couldn't do was pass, with the exception of a couple of nice completions to Washington and Griffin. Everything else was dogshit. That let the Pats stuff the line and we were then completely neutered.

Limey...meet Brian Hoyer. That's who he is. That was textbook Hoyer.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #156 on:** December 14, 2015, 09:59:57 pm »

As bad as the offense was, Hoyer missed a couple wide open long balls that could have completely changed the game. Patriots almost assuredly still win but it would have been in question late. Nice to see Clowney play like he did. Maybe he is finally healthy.

Limey · « **Reply #157 on:** December 16, 2015, 03:18:33 pm »

Hoyer and Luck both ruled out for Sunday's game.

I know which set of fans will be less upset with this news...

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #158 on:** December 16, 2015, 05:13:50 pm »

Quote from: Limey on December 16, 2015, 03:18:33 pm

Hoyer and Luck both ruled out for Sunday's game.

I know which set of fans will be less upset with this news...

I'm conflicted - I cannot root for a loss and am always happy with a Division Championship and playoff run, but realistically, this team will not get past the Divisional round and it only hurts their chances of drafting a quality QB in the spring. Unless they think they can get Brees this offseason, it's a problem.

Then there is this article on Chron today: http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2015/12/texans-owner-bob-mcnair-covets-franchise-qb-wants-to-keep-gm-rick-smith/

Quote from: Bob McNair

“I think Bill and Rick get along and the way we’re organized is good. We’ve actually done fairly well. I know there’s been criticism of the draft but look back at it. On offense, nine of our 11 players are guys we drafted and on defense it’s eight.”

Fine, that's the numbers but the question is are these guys "just guys" or do you have a vast majority of "good" players. There are a few "great players" - normal I would say for the NFL on the Texans, there are very few "good" players and a lot of "average" to "below average" players. It's that simple. I don't care how many of the guys were drafted - I care about their quality. Missing on so many 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders is why the Texans are not a consistent playoff team.

jbm · « **Reply #159 on:** December 16, 2015, 05:27:23 pm »

Damn, that's depressing. Rick Smith is a problem, McNair not recognizing that is fatal.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #160 on:** December 16, 2015, 05:37:33 pm »

McNair is a problem

chuck · « **Reply #161 on:** December 16, 2015, 05:57:45 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on December 16, 2015, 05:37:33 pm

McNair is a problem

He's probably the single biggest problem, closely followed by the subservient necks who'll keep buying tickets regardless of the garbage he offers.

Limey · « **Reply #162 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:26:19 am »

It was always going to take an awful lot of planets aligning to break that losing streak in Indianapolis. I never expected that they would line up in such a fucked up pattern, though.

Texans still alive; Cowboys eliminated - by the Texans' former QB and kicker; Cowboys' reject QB wins it for the Texans. So many ways to enjoy this.

BudGirl · « **Reply #163 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:31:39 am »

I never thought Weeden was the only reason the Cowboys lost those games. He's a fine back-up quarterback.

Limey · « **Reply #164 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:35:51 am »

Quote from: BudGirl on December 21, 2015, 10:31:39 am

I never thought Weeden was the only reason the Cowboys lost those games. He's a fine back-up quarterback.

There's definitely something very wrong in Dallas that they cut Weeden only to end up benching Cassell for a career back-up who'd never taken a snap for real in the NFL before.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #165 on:** December 21, 2015, 11:00:17 am »

Quote from: Limey on December 21, 2015, 10:26:19 am

It was always going to take an awful lot of planets aligning to break that losing streak in Indianapolis. I never expected that they would line up in such a fucked up pattern, though.

The Texans may screw around and give this thing back, but the Colts are a mess right now, and that's what it took. Now if they can just stay off their dicks for another couple of weeks...

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #166 on:** December 21, 2015, 11:02:10 am »

Quote from: Limey on December 21, 2015, 10:35:51 am

There's definitely something very wrong in Dallas that they cut Weeden only to end up benching Cassell for a career back-up who'd never taken a snap for real in the NFL before.

So what's the scoop on Hoyer? Will he back next week? If not, the Texans will need to sign their 6th string QB from off the street, and make him the backup next week. Who's available?

chuck · « **Reply #167 on:** December 21, 2015, 11:08:06 am »

Quote from: Limey on December 21, 2015, 10:35:51 am

There's definitely something very wrong in Dallas that they cut Weeden only to end up benching Cassell for a career back-up who'd never taken a snap for real in the NFL before.

I thought Moore looked pretty good, actually.

Also, I'm not sure I could argue with any conviction that Yates and Weeden look significantly worse than Hoyer and Mallett.

BudGirl · « **Reply #168 on:** December 21, 2015, 11:38:26 am »

Quote from: Limey on December 21, 2015, 10:35:51 am

There's definitely something very wrong in Dallas that they cut Weeden only to end up benching Cassell for a career back-up who'd never taken a snap for real in the NFL before.

I think they are evaluating him to see what they need to address in the draft. IMO, their season was done when they couldn't win a game without Romo - which I blame quite a bit on the defense. If Moore does well in the last couple of games, then QB is not as much of a priority as it could be.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #169 on:** December 22, 2015, 08:19:58 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on December 21, 2015, 11:02:10 am

So what's the scoop on Hoyer? Will he back next week? If not, the Texans will need to sign their 6th string QB from off the street, and make him the backup next week. Who's available?

Grossman and Tebow are the only ones that come to mind.

Hoyer is still being evaluated. I suspect the fact that they haven't signed anyone yet is a good sign for hoyer?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #170 on:** December 22, 2015, 08:50:36 am »

Quote from: Uncle Charlie on December 22, 2015, 08:19:58 am

Grossman and Tebow are the only ones that come to mind.

Hoyer is still being evaluated. I suspect the fact that they haven't signed anyone yet is a good sign for hoyer?

Actually, they signed B.J. Daniels, a wide receiver, off the Seahawks' practice squad. He played QB in college, and some in Seattle before they moved him to WR. I think it's safe to say the QB barrel is officially empty.

Hoyer has to meet with specialists this week. So far, he's not been cleared.

jbm · « **Reply #171 on:** December 22, 2015, 09:35:51 am »

They have gone through so many, it is hard to keep up. Did they have a 3rd stringer, presumably on the practice squad, going into the Indy game? If so, is he #2 if Hoyer can't go, or if they didn't have a #3 going into the Indy game, will the Seattle receiver be #2 if Hoyer can't go?

chuck · « **Reply #172 on:** December 22, 2015, 10:06:59 am »

Quote from: jbm on December 22, 2015, 09:35:51 am

They have gone through so many, it is hard to keep up. Did they have a 3rd stringer, presumably on the practice squad, going into the Indy game?

No. As it stands the people who could conceivably play quarterback for the Texans during this critical playoff run are Hoyer, who has suffered at least six concussions in his career, Weeden, this new guy Daniels, and Shane Lechler. I would imagine that if Cecil Shorts is healthy (he left Sunday's game with a groin issue) he'll might some snaps at quarterback this week, too.

jbm · « **Reply #173 on:** December 22, 2015, 10:40:53 am »

So, it's plausible that they could have a receiver at the helm causing them to miss the playoffs in the weakest division they've ever faced, all while they've squirreled away on IR the only QB they have drafted in recent years. Seems kind of fitting for this organization.

chuck · « **Reply #174 on:** December 22, 2015, 10:42:43 am »

Quote from: jbm on December 22, 2015, 10:40:53 am

So, it's plausible that they could have a receiver at the helm causing them to miss the playoffs in the weakest division they've ever faced, all while they've squirreled away on IR the only QB they have drafted in recent years. Seems kind of fitting for this organization.

I believe you have hit upon the nub of the matter, yes.

Bench · « **Reply #175 on:** December 22, 2015, 10:50:31 am »

Quote from: jbm on December 22, 2015, 09:35:51 am

They have gone through so many, it is hard to keep up. Did they have a 3rd stringer, presumably on the practice squad, going into the Indy game? If so, is he #2 if Hoyer can't go, or if they didn't have a #3 going into the Indy game, will the Seattle receiver be #2 if Hoyer can't go?

What has been the overall run of QBs on the year? Hoyer, Mallet, Yates, Weeden, (Savage on IR), Daniel? Am I missing someone?

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #176 on:** December 22, 2015, 11:05:05 am »

Quote from: jbm on December 22, 2015, 10:40:53 am

So, it's plausible that they could have a receiver at the helm causing them to miss the playoffs in the weakest division they've ever faced, all while they've squirreled away on IR the only QB they have drafted in recent years. Seems kind of fitting for this organization.

While I agree with you, I think it's highly unlikely (<20% chance) they miss the playoffs. As I've said before, I'm a bit torn on this matter. They have no real chance in the playoffs, period. QB plays a part in that. If they had an aboslutely dominate defense, I might think differently...but they don't. It's a good to better than average defense, but not great and certainly not dominate. Unfortunately, the ramifications of winning this terrible division are compounding. As of now they lose 5 spots in the draft order vs. the Colts....this could be worse if they get lucky and win the first playoff game - something that "could" happen against the Chiefs IMHO. They also finish first in the division, meaning the 2016 schedule includes a trip to Foxboro instead of playing at the Jets. Their 2016 away schedule is absolutely brutal at this point, including trips to Foxboro, Green Bay and Denver.

Now that I'm done moaning about the impacts - there is a possiblity the Texans have a QB with potential next year. Kap, RG III, and Brees are all likely to be FA's next year and not going back to their teams.

BudGirl · « **Reply #177 on:** December 22, 2015, 11:42:49 am »

Seriously, RG3 is on your radar? You know he sucks, right? He's not even the back-up for the Redskins. I'll admit I'm not a fan of the Texans but surely they can find someone better.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #178 on:** December 22, 2015, 03:26:17 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on December 22, 2015, 11:42:49 am

Seriously, RG3 is on your radar? You know he sucks, right? He's not even the back-up for the Redskins. I'll admit I'm not a fan of the Texans but surely they can find someone better.

You do realize that he is where he is in part b/c of the $16 million option which is guaranteed for injury. They don't want him, for reasons clearly related to relationships, and would be forced to pay him if he got injured...at all.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #179 on:** December 22, 2015, 04:50:44 pm »

Quote from: jbm on December 22, 2015, 09:35:51 am

They have gone through so many, it is hard to keep up. Did they have a 3rd stringer, presumably on the practice squad, going into the Indy game? If so, is he #2 if Hoyer can't go, or if they didn't have a #3 going into the Indy game, will the Seattle receiver be #2 if Hoyer can't go?

#3 going into the Indy game was Weeden. He wasn't on the practice squad, he was on the 53-man roster. And yes, if Hoyer is out, Daniels will be the backup for Sunday.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #180 on:** December 22, 2015, 08:18:33 pm »

I'd love to find a way to get Brees here for a year or 2, while they groom a QB they take in the 1st/2nd round this year or next.

chuck · « **Reply #181 on:** December 22, 2015, 09:35:12 pm »

If the Texans can somehow win one of their two remaining contests they are virtually guaranteed to win the division regardless of what the Colts do. It is not a certainty but it would require a highly unlikely sequence of events that will I believe clarify themselves after next week's games.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #182 on:** December 22, 2015, 10:20:32 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on December 22, 2015, 08:18:33 pm

I'd love to find a way to get Brees here for a year or 2, while they groom a QB they take in the 1st/2nd round this year or next.

If you take the view that he won't return to NO after they cut him (as happens with so many older FA's) and then go team by team to look at both the QB situation as well as the style of offense played, I think the Texans have a real shot at Brees

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #183 on:** December 23, 2015, 07:36:24 am »

I wouldn't mind giving Stafford a look see.

Limey · « **Reply #184 on:** December 23, 2015, 10:31:30 am »

Quote from: chuck on December 22, 2015, 09:35:12 pm

If the Texans can somehow win one of their two remaining contests they are virtually guaranteed to win the division regardless of what the Colts do. It is not a certainty but it would require a highly unlikely sequence of events that will I believe clarify themselves after next week's games.

With the bizarre machinations of NFL tie-breakers, the Texans clinch the division with a win on Sunday and either: (1) a Colts loss; or (b) a Broncos loss. Yasee, if the Broncos lose, it reduces the Colts' strength of opponent factor (or whateverthefuck they call it) such they they cannot overtake the Texans in that category. As the Texans and Colts are tied in every other tie-breaker prior to strength of opponent - it makes all the difference.

The Colts go to Miami on Sunday and the Broncos host the Bengals on Monday night. So, the Texans have a good chance of getting what they need in either or both of those games. Of course, the Texans don't do it easy, which means they'll probably lose to the fucking Titans and have to beat the Jags on the final weekend.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #185 on:** December 27, 2015, 06:09:24 pm »

According to this...and results from later in the day, a CIN win tomorrow night will result in the division title. If DEN wins, then it goes to next week. I'm not exactly sure how the tiebreakers work there.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/UPDATED-Texans-can-lock-up-playoff-bid-if/6017248a-b87e-41e0-bf42-ca0862a23d4c

Limey · « **Reply #186 on:** December 28, 2015, 09:31:19 am »

Quote from: Uncle Charlie on December 27, 2015, 06:09:24 pm

According to this...and results from later in the day, a CIN win tomorrow night will result in the division title. If DEN wins, then it goes to next week. I'm not exactly sure how the tiebreakers work there.

It's here:

Quote

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss

Strength of Victory can't change next week as it involves unique wins, IIRC, and the last round are all games within the division.

Strength of Schedule is next; if it's based on the going-in SOS, then the Texans have it from the Colts by a pube. If it's based on the results of the season...fuck knows.

Limey · « **Reply #187 on:** December 28, 2015, 10:05:00 am »

If I'm reading this right, the Texans have already locked up Strength of Schedule, so we just need to match the Colts' result to clinch. Or just win. Or if the Bengals beat the Broncos tonight.

roadrunner · « **Reply #188 on:** December 28, 2015, 10:30:39 am »

Bill O'Brien has done a really good job with this team considering the QB situation and the poor start.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #189 on:** December 28, 2015, 10:58:14 am »

The Texans have clinched at least a tie for "strength of victory". For the Colts to tie in that, a lot has to happen, starting with tonight:

Tonight:

Broncos beat the Bengals

Next Week:

Jags beat the Texans
Colts beat the Titans
Dolphins beat Patriots
Broncos beat Chargers
Falcons beat Saints
Bengals beat Ravens
Bills beat Jets

If all of those things happen, the Colts and Texans will be tied in SOV. It will then go to "Strength of Schedule", which means the Colts need:

Raiders beat Chiefs
Steelers beat Browns

If all of that happens, they'd be tied in SOS and it would go to "Combined Points Ranking within Conference", where you look at where the respective teams rank in points allowed and points scored within the conference. The Texans are well ahead of the Colts on that one, which means that the Colts would have to win next week by scoring something like 80 points while shutting out the Titans, AND the Bills would have to win by scoring only like 6 points.

Again...ALL of those things have to happen for the Colts. So while they're not mathematically eliminated, a lot of crazy shit has to happen for them.

Limey · « **Reply #190 on:** December 28, 2015, 11:39:22 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on December 28, 2015, 10:58:14 am

Again...ALL of those things have to happen for the Colts. So while they're not mathematically eliminated, a lot of crazy shit has to happen for them.

So, I'm putting $50 on the Colts then.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #191 on:** December 28, 2015, 12:57:12 pm »

Outside of Brady, the list of likely AFC playoff starting QBs is borderline comical.

chuck · « **Reply #192 on:** December 28, 2015, 01:16:50 pm »

Quote from: Limey on December 28, 2015, 11:39:22 am

So, I'm putting $50 on the Colts then.

SFN

Limey · « **Reply #193 on:** December 28, 2015, 01:33:50 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on December 28, 2015, 12:57:12 pm

Outside of Brady, the list of likely AFC playoff starting QBs is borderline comical.

I think that this is the second week that all of the Texas QB alumni have won.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #194 on:** December 28, 2015, 11:45:49 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on December 28, 2015, 10:58:14 am

The Texans have clinched at least a tie for "strength of victory". For the Colts to tie in that, a lot has to happen, starting with tonight:

Tonight:

Broncos beat the Bengals

Well, that happened, so the Colts only have 9 more victories to count on to take down the Texans. At least next week "means something" (sort of) since I'm making the trek down from Dallas to see it.

hostros7 · « **Reply #195 on:** December 29, 2015, 08:11:31 am »

Well, according to an email from the Texans, my playoff tickets just shipped, which was an event that was supposed to occur after clinching a playoff spot. Might as well up that $50 bet to $100.

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moriartp · « **Reply #196 on:** December 29, 2015, 09:34:56 am »

Quote from: hostros7 on December 29, 2015, 08:11:31 am

Well, according to an email from the Texans, my playoff tickets just shipped, which was an event that was supposed to occur after clinching a playoff spot. Might as well up that $50 bet to $100.

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Triple it if Greg Abbott congratulates them.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #197 on:** December 29, 2015, 01:46:05 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on December 29, 2015, 08:11:31 am

Well, according to an email from the Texans, my playoff tickets just shipped, which was an event that was supposed to occur after clinching a playoff spot. Might as well up that $50 bet to $100.

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I did too. Talked to the account rep - apparently they aren't charging cards until official clinch but have to send out the tickets now due to logistics.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #198 on:** December 29, 2015, 06:27:00 pm »

Quote from: Uncle Charlie on December 29, 2015, 01:46:05 pm

I did too. Talked to the account rep - apparently they aren't charging cards until official clinch but have to send out the tickets now due to logistics.

Got mine today. Hopefully they don't end up like my 2004 World Series tickets.

Limey · « **Reply #199 on:** January 02, 2016, 05:11:46 pm »

Hoyer to start. I'd prefer Weeden. Yes, I know that's weird to read; you should try typing it.