Altuve making another run at 200 hits

[ValpoCory]

Just last week, this looked like a pipe dream.  But 6 games and 13 hits later, he's back in the mix.  He's still not on pace to get there (projected 191 hits after Wednesday), but that number is a lot higher than it was last week.

Altuve has 143 hits now, so he needs 57 hits in the team's final 41 games.    In the last 41 team games, Altuve has 59 hits, playing in all 41 (he's played in 50 straight since his return from injury in June).

Unlikely still, but I wouldn't bet against him.  Go Stros.


P.S. And just to update ... Jose Altuve is 25 years, 106 days old.  He has 773 career hits.
When Craig Biggio was 25 years, 106 days old (March 30th, 1991), he had 293 career hits.

[JimR]

Just last week, this looked like a pipe dream.  But 6 games and 13 hits later, he's back in the mix.  He's still not on pace to get there (projected 191 hits after Wednesday), but that number is a lot higher than it was last week.

Altuve has 143 hits now, so he needs 57 hits in the team's final 41 games.    In the last 41 team games, Altuve has 59 hits, playing in all 41 (he's played in 50 straight since his return from injury in June).

Unlikely still, but I wouldn't bet against him.  Go Stros.


P.S. And just to update ... Jose Altuve is 25 years, 106 days old.  He has 773 career hits.
When Craig Biggio was 25 years, 106 days old (March 30th, 1991), he had 293 career hits.

the PS is quite a stat.

[NeilT]

Biggio was about a year older when he made his debut, and of course he was a catcher mostly until after 25.  But he didn't get 200 hits until the 1998 season, when he was 32, and that was the only season he got that many hits. 

[Duman]

Let's see if I can make it more impressive:

So far, Altuve has played in 627 games and has amassed 773 hits.  Pete Rose amassed 741 hits in his first 627 games. Rose was 26 years and 14 days old at the time. 

Biggio only had 606 hits in his first 627 games.

[JimR]

Let's see if I can make it more impressive:

So far, Altuve has played in 627 games and has amassed 773 hits.  Pete Rose amassed 741 hits in his first 627 games. Rose was 26 years and 14 days old at the time. 

Biggio only had 606 hits in his first 627 games.

yes, yes you can.

[Duman]

If my math is right, Altuve is averaging 1.23 hits per game for his career.  He should get hit number 1000 sometime August or September next year.

[NeilT]

Let's see if I can make it more impressive:

So far, Altuve has played in 627 games and has amassed 773 hits.  Pete Rose amassed 741 hits in his first 627 games. Rose was 26 years and 14 days old at the time. 

We are lucky to get to watch Altuve play the game, but we're also lucky that Altuve is one of the happiest guys to ever play the game.  I can't think of any player less like Pete Rose.

ETA: or Ty Cobb, who was 24 when he reached 1000 hits.  That's scary.

[JimR]

We are lucky to get to watch Altuve play the game, but we're also lucky that Altuve is one of the happiest guys to ever play the game.  I can't think of any player less like Pete Rose.

agreed, and the same goes for most of this team. the unbridled joy they show after wins is fun to watch.

[NeilT]

agreed, and the same goes for most of this team. the unbridled joy they show after wins is fun to watch.

Yep.

[OregonStrosFan]

Let's see if I can make it more impressive:

So far, Altuve has played in 627 games and has amassed 773 hits.  Pete Rose amassed 741 hits in his first 627 games. Rose was 26 years and 14 days old at the time. 

Biggio only had 606 hits in his first 627 games.

Wow!

[Dark Star]

agreed, and the same goes for most of this team. the unbridled joy they show after wins is fun to watch.

Yep.

Thanks for rubbing it in, guys.

[ValpoCory]

Altuve has 143 hits now, so he needs 57 hits in the team's final 41 games.    In the last 41 team games, Altuve has 59 hits, playing in all 41 (he's played in 50 straight since his return from injury in June).

Update: He needed 1.39 hits per game (hpg) over the last 41.  In 10 games since, he's knocked out 15 hits (1.50 hpg).   He needs 42 hits in the team's last 31 games now (1.35 hpg). 

[ValpoCory]

45 hits this month, ties his all-time mark which he set in May 2014.    Is that the franchise record for hits in a month?

[JimR]

45 hits this month, ties his all-time mark which he set in May 2014.    Is that the franchise record for hits in a month?

Tied with Jesus Alou.

[Navin R Johnson]

Few more Altuve stats.   
In August, he hit 375/411/467
2nd Half 362/404/471

Found this one interesting too.
In Astros victories, 372/419/522
in Astros losses, 251/285/328

[NeilT]

Few more Altuve stats.   
In August, he hit 375/411/467
2nd Half 362/404/471

Found this one interesting too.
In Astros victories, 372/419/522
in Astros losses, 251/285/328

I may be a homer, but I'm baffled why Altuve is never mentioned as an MVP candidate.

[subnuclear]

I may be a home, but I'm baffled why Altuve is never mentioned as an MVP candidate.

Because he is unfortunately playing at the same time as the New Jersey version of Mickey Mantle. Also, Donaldson and Cain play on first place teams.

[NeilT]

Because he is unfortunately playing at the same time as the New Jersey version of Mickey Mantle. Also, Donaldson and Cain play on first place teams.

Trout's had a slow second half, hasn't he?  Donaldson I get.  But I'm just saying mentioned, in an off-hand sort of way.

[subnuclear]

If he keeps playing this way, he probably will.

[BudGirl]

Trout's had a slow second half, hasn't he?  Donaldson I get.  But I'm just saying mentioned, in an off-hand sort of way.

Last night Brownie and Blum were thinking Trout may have gotten hurt a month or so ago.  Their thinking seemed to be if the Angels fall out of the race Trout may stop playing due to his injury (assuming there is one).

[Navin R Johnson]

Astros record when Altuve has at least 1 hit, 57-38.   
Astros record when Altuve doesn't get a hit, 11-18.

[subnuclear]

Astros record when Altuve has at least 1 hit, 57-38.   
Astros record when Altuve doesn't get a hit, 11-18.

I haven't looked at it carefully, but that may just reflect the quality of the pitcher, in which case, other people's hitting will be correlated.

[Bench]

Per McTaggart/Berman, when asked if he will catch Miguel Cabrera in batting average, Altuve smiled and replied "I don't think he's going to catch us in wins."

ETA:  And if ever there was a clear example of the difference between someone who is a professional writer and someone who isn't, it's these two tweets:

Jose Altuve asked if he's going to catch Miguel Cabrera in batting average race:"I don't think he's going 2catch us n wins," he said smiling

Altuve when asked if he'll catch Miggy in batting average: "I don't think he's going to catch us in wins." He smiled.

[ValpoCory]

Per McTaggart/Berman, when asked if he will catch Miguel Cabrera in batting average, Altuve smiled and replied "I don't think he's going to catch us in wins."

ETA:  And if ever there was a clear example of the difference between someone who is a professional writer and someone who isn't, it's these two tweets:

Jose Altuve asked if he's going to catch Miguel Cabrera in batting average race:"I don't think he's going 2catch us n wins," he said smiling

Altuve when asked if he'll catch Miggy in batting average: "I don't think he's going to catch us in wins." He smiled.

Who the fuck asked Jose Altuve if he's going to catch a guy 42 points above him in a batting race in September?    I would have punched him in the face.    He deserved a snarky response.     What, is a franchise-tying 45 hit month not good enough for you?

Whoever it was better have had a tongue-in-cheek relationship with Altuve.

[Fredia]

people in the media are mostly not members of braintrusts  altuve showed who was the bigger man

[ValpoCory]

Another nice game for Altuve.  Just 3 away from 800 career hits already.  He may not get to 200 hits this year, especially if he gets a day or two off, but still, this tear he's been on (over .350 since the break) has been impressive.

He needs 33 hits in the team's last 25 games to get to 200 (1.32 hpg).   So far this season Altuve has 1.29 hpg, so really close.

[NeilT]

If I'm figuring this right, he has 19 games remaining, with 174 hits.  He needs to average 1.37 hits per game.

[ValpoCory]

Up to 185 hits now.   Will Altuve get 15 hits in the final 11 games?  Possible.   He has 16 hits in his last 11 games, including 7 road games and 4 home games.

On a side note, not that it was going to happen, but Altuve won't be winning the batting title this year even if Cabrera gets injured tomorrow and falls short of the 501 PA needed to win the title without having your batting average lowered with extra ABs to get to 501.  Cabrera is only 18 PA short of 501, so his average would only drop to .323 from .337.

Altuve is at .314 and unlikely to get to .323 even in that hypothetical.

[JimR]

Up to 185 hits now.   Will Altuve get 15 hits in the final 11 games?  Possible.   He has 16 hits in his last 11 games, including 7 road games and 4 home games.

On a side note, not that it was going to happen, but Altuve won't be winning the batting title this year even if Cabrera gets injured tomorrow and falls short of the 501 PA needed to win the title without having your batting average lowered with extra ABs to get to 501.  Cabrera is only 18 PA short of 501, so his average would only drop to .323 from .337.

Altuve is at .314 and unlikely to get to .323 even in that hypothetical.

hey, pal, does any of this matter? if you had not noticed, Altuve is on a team, and the team is in a dogfight pennant race.

[GreatBagwellsBeard]

I think it's a fun stat to track.  Altuve is a special player, and we're not likely to see another one like him for a while.

[JimR]

I think it's a fun stat to track.  Altuve is a special player, and we're not likely to see another one like him for a while.

I am not saying it is not fun. I am saying it is not important. one of Altuve's faults, to me, it he thinks only of hits and has no situational awareness at the plate.

[jbm]

I am not saying it is not fun. I am saying it is not important. one of Altuve's faults, to me, it he thinks only of hits and has no situational awareness at the plate.

Hear Hear.  I love his passion and his ability to square up a variety of pitches, but think what he could become with mental skills to match his physical talents.  He often looks like a rookie with his approach and damn, how many times has he been picked while looking oblivious to his surroundings.

[NeilT]

3 hits last night in 4 at-bats.  He's just been on fire the last month.  It's great fun to watch.

[NeilT]

Hear Hear.  I love his passion and his ability to square up a variety of pitches, but think what he could become with mental skills to match his physical talents.  He often looks like a rookie with his approach and damn, how many times has he been picked while looking oblivious to his surroundings.

You get the passion, you lose some deliberation.  Take your pick.

[JimR]

3 hits last night in 4 at-bats.  He's just been on fire the last month.  It's great fun to watch.

great fun until he hits into a DP with two on and no out down a run because he is swinging at everything. even he criticized that AB.

[JimR]

You get the passion, you lose some deliberation.  Take your pick.

do not think it must be this way.

[Navin R Johnson]

Altuve is one of my favorites, but goddamn the guy seems to fall asleep on the base paths once a week.   Did it last night too.   There are at least 4 other occasions I can think of, where he was so flat footed that when the pitcher threw over to first, he just stood there. 

[HudsonHawk]

Altuve is one of my favorites, but goddamn the guy seems to fall asleep on the base paths once a week.   Did it last night too.   There are at least 4 other occasions I can think of, where he was so flat footed that when the pitcher threw over to first, he just stood there.

I like being aggressive on the bases.  And when you're aggressive, you're going to get thrown out.  You're going to get picked off.  If you never do, you're not being aggressive enough.  But there is a difference between aggressive and reckless, and Altuve seems to cross it regularly.  Of all his faults, that is the one that bugs me the most. 

[NeilT]

great fun until he hits into a DP with two on and no out down a run because he is swinging at everything. even he criticized that AB.

That's what you get with Altuve.  Plus he's part of this team, just like Gomez.

[Navin R Johnson]

I like being aggressive on the bases.  And when you're aggressive, you're going to get thrown out.  You're going to get picked off.  If you never do, you're not being aggressive enough.  But there is a difference between aggressive and reckless, and Altuve seems to cross it regularly.  Of all his faults, that is the one that bugs me the most. 

Agree.  I am all for aggressive play.  Getting thrown out trying to get to 3rd on a single with 1 out sure.  Or getting thrown out actually trying to steal second with 2 outs, or trying to score with 2 outs, etc...  But sitting there, leading off second base, with your thumb up your ass with NOBODY OUT, and getting picked off....it was Pence like.

And the multiple times he has been so badly fooled/asleep that he didn't even attempt to dive back to 1st before getting picked off.  That crap needs to be fixed.  It is frustrating as hell to see it from a player like Altuve.

[geezerdonk]

I think that on many teams this type of thing would be handled by a kangaroo court. Some good old fashioned abuse and ridicule by his team mates might be the correction most likely to get his attention and stick with him. I wonder if Altuve is too much of a big shot and the team is too young and new to the big leagues to administer this kind of lesson.     

[juliogotay]

I think that on many teams this type of thing would be handled by a kangaroo court. Some good old fashioned abuse and ridicule by his team mates might be the correction most likely to get his attention and stick with him. I wonder if Altuve is too much of a big shot and the team is too young and new to the big leagues to administer this kind of lesson.   

Or just some teammates like Bagwell and Biggio that tell him that shit is not acceptable. Don't really have that veteran clubhouse leader that I am aware of.

[JimR]

That's what you get with Altuve.  Plus he's part of this team, just like Gomez.

guess who this was written to? I have not called Altuve names, nor will I. he gets lots of hits, but he has no situational awareness, and he sometimes hurts the team in crucial situations because of this.

[JimR]

That's what you get with Altuve.  Plus he's part of this team, just like Gomez.

or just flat not paying attention to the pitcher

[NeilT]

guess who this was written to? I have not called Altuve names, nor will I. he gets lots of hits, but he has no situational awareness, and he sometimes hurts the team in crucial situations because of this.

He's heading for 200 hits for the second year running. If it were a pitcher going for 200 strikeouts, would you say it had no importance?  Or going for 20 wins for the second year running?   Fans of a player follow stuff like that, and find it important.

altuve bats first or second. He's what, second in RBI?  Sometimes he's unaware of situational hitting. Not always, and probably not more than anyone else on this team. Who is your favorite situational hitter on the 2025 Astros?  Valbuena? Gattis?  Saying that 200 hits is unimportant's just seems odd.

[JimR]

He's heading for 200 hits for the second year running. If it were a pitcher going for 200 strikeouts, would you say it had no importance?  Or going for 20 wins for the second year running?   Fans of a player follow stuff like that, and find it important.

altuve bats first or second. He's what, second in RBI?  Sometimes he's unaware of situational hitting. Not always, and probably not more than anyone else on this team. Who is your favorite situational hitter on the 2025 Astros?  Valbuena? Gattis?  Saying that 200 hits is unimportant's just seems odd.

I said a pursuit of 200 hits is not important. this is a team game, and that goal is very individual. If he gets them, great, but often a hit is not all that will accomplish a team goal. I do not think it is odd at all. I do not know if there is a situational hitter on the Astros. certainly not those two.

if you do not understand what I am saying, it is a problem with my articulation. I did not say always or never. he is a good player, of course, but I think he lacks baseball IQ.

ETA: I am not writing as a "fan of the player." I am writing as a coach who wants to win games in any possible way. sometime the game calls for a bunt or a grounder to SS or a grounder to the right side or a fly ball or a walk. none of those things advances the goal of 200 hits, but they help win games. a player who pursues a hit in every AB regardless what the situation calls for hurts the team in those ABs, I think.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Maybe if he were taller.

[ValpoCory]

I said a pursuit of 200 hits is not important. this is a team game, and that goal is very individual. If he gets them, great, but often a hit is not all that will accomplish a team goal. I do not think it is odd at all. I do not know if there is a situational hitter on the Astros. certainly not those two.

if you do not understand what I am saying, it is a problem with my articulation. I did not say always or never. he is a good player, of course, but I think he lacks baseball IQ.

ETA: I am not writing as a "fan of the player." I am writing as a coach who wants to win games in any possible way. sometime the game calls for a bunt or a grounder to SS or a grounder to the right side or a fly ball or a walk. none of those things advances the goal of 200 hits, but they help win games. a player who pursues a hit in every AB regardless what the situation calls for hurts the team in those ABs, I think.

Relating this to Biggio.  In 1999, he was on pace to tie/surpass the all-time single season doubles mark (Earl Webb, 67 doubles in 1931).  Bidge ultimately finished with 56 doubles.  IIRC, during that stretch Jayson Stark declared it as the last possible attempt to break the record as the Astrodome was a great doubles park that was going away (ignore the fact that Helton hit 59 doubles the very next season).   Anyway, I vividly remember seeing Biggio pull up at 2nd on hits into the right field corner a couple times that in my opinion were easy triples for him and his late 90's speed.  It was then that I realized just how much stats meant to him.   I also remember in 2006 and 2007, when Biggio was focused on 3,000 hits, he suddenly got HBP less.   HBP was a strategy he didn't intentionally employ those last few years as his stat goal changed.   Side note: here is a beautiful example of the Bidge HBP strategy.  A pitch that was being framed for a strike, and he gets to take first base.

Some players are aware of stats and milestones.  If a player needs a triple for a cycle, he knows it.  I'm not sure if Altuve is one of those players.  I don't think he's as stat crazy as Bidge though.

[geezerdonk]

I think that you could say Correa is a situational hitter - and for a 20 year old, he is a hell of a situational hitter.

[JimR]

I think that you could say Correa is a situational hitter - and for a 20 year old, he is a hell of a situational hitter.

I think he is.

[NeilT]

Altuve didn't start this thread. I haven't heard Altuve saying that he's chasing 200 hits, and the only people I've heard it from were first here and then sportscasters.  Altuve may be keeping chalk marks on the wall of the clubhouse, but he doesn't play that way, and the only people that I'm certain care about it are us.  Your initial statement slammed fans for caring, not Altuve.  At 4 sac flies, he's second on the team.

Altuve is a great bad ball hitter, certainly the best I've ever seen.  He hits balls that other people don't swing at all the time, both high and low and outside.  When he gets shown up on a bad ball swing, he's going to look stupider than most, and that happens.  Nobody went for the slider more often than Biggio, runners on or off, and it was always the wrap on Bagwell that he didn't change his approach at the plate regardless of the situation. But Altuve hits bad balls, and he's one of the best hitters in baseball. 

[Duman]

Correa was the best I have seen in Greeneville at going opposite field.  It was one of the things that stood out to me when he was here after being drafted.

I haven't seen another kid do it even close to as good as he did until this year - Kyle Tucker went opposite field several times. 

Neither of them went that way because they were fooled on the pitch but because that was where they wanted to go with the pitch.

As for Altuve, I agree his base path gaffs have hurt the team this year.  Getting three hits is great. Scoring three runs is better.  Getting picked off last night was a big screw up. 

However, don't for a minute think Altuve is a stat chaser.  He is a team first player.  My opinion is that he has a great deal of pressure the be the catalyst of this team.  If he doesn't go, the team rarely goes.  The team is 12-23 when he doesn't get a hit.  They are 8-17 when he doesn't reach base at all. They are 67-51 when he does reach base.  And 63-45 when he gets a hit.

So I don't think he cares a bit about 200 hits.  I think he cares about getting on base.  When he gets on base, the Astros are more likely to win.

[NeilT]

C My opinion is that he has a great deal of pressure the be the catalyst of this team.  If he doesn't go, the team rarely goes.  The team is 12-23 when he doesn't get a hit.  They are 8-17 when he doesn't reach base at all. They are 67-51 when he does reach base.  And 63-45 when he gets a hit.

This.

[JimR]

Altuve didn't start this thread. I haven't heard Altuve saying that he's chasing 200 hits, and the only people I've heard it from were first here and then sportscasters.  Altuve may be keeping chalk marks on the wall of the clubhouse, but he doesn't play that way, and the only people that I'm certain care about it are us.  Your initial statement slammed fans for caring, not Altuve.  At 4 sac flies, he's second on the team.

Altuve is a great bad ball hitter, certainly the best I've ever seen.  He hits balls that other people don't swing at all the time, both high and low and outside.  When he gets shown up on a bad ball swing, he's going to look stupider than most, and that happens.  Nobody went for the slider more often than Biggio, runners on or off, and it was always the wrap on Bagwell that he didn't change his approach at the plate regardless of the situation. But Altuve hits bad balls, and he's one of the best hitters in baseball.

and your point is?

[NeilT]

and your point is?

Damned if I know anymore.

[JimR]

Correa was the best I have seen in Greeneville at going opposite field.  It was one of the things that stood out to me when he was here after being drafted.

I haven't seen another kid do it even close to as good as he did until this year - Kyle Tucker went opposite field several times. 

Neither of them went that way because they were fooled on the pitch but because that was where they wanted to go with the pitch.

As for Altuve, I agree his base path gaffs have hurt the team this year.  Getting three hits is great. Scoring three runs is better.  Getting picked off last night was a big screw up. 

However, don't for a minute think Altuve is a stat chaser.  He is a team first player.  My opinion is that he has a great deal of pressure the be the catalyst of this team.  If he doesn't go, the team rarely goes.  The team is 12-23 when he doesn't get a hit.  They are 8-17 when he doesn't reach base at all. They are 67-51 when he does reach base.  And 63-45 when he gets a hit.

So I don't think he cares a bit about 200 hits.  I think he cares about getting on base.  When he gets on base, the Astros are more likely to win.

I do not know if he is a stat chaser. I think he chases hits, sometimes to the detriment of the team. getting on base includes taking a walk, which he reluctantly does. he also swings at balls over his head ala Gattis.

if Altuve is the best bad ball hitter Neil has ever seen, he obviously never saw Yogi Berra play.

[NeilT]

I do not know if he is a stat chaser. I think he chases hits, sometimes to the detriment of the team. getting on base includes taking a walk, which he reluctantly does. he also swings at balls over his head ala Gattis.

if Altuve is the best bad ball hitter Neil has ever seen, he obviously never saw Yogi Berra play.

No, Berra retired in '63.  I was still watching Casper the Friendly Ghost. 

[JimR]

No, Berra retired in '63.  I was still watching Casper the Friendly Ghost.

damn, you are just a kid?

[Navin R Johnson]

When bad ball hitter is brought up, I immediately think of Vlad.

[VirtualBob]

if Altuve is the best bad ball hitter Neil has ever seen, he obviously never saw Yogi Berra play.

Or Minnie Minoso.

[Noe]

I do not know if he is a stat chaser. I think he chases hits, sometimes to the detriment of the team. getting on base includes taking a walk, which he reluctantly does. he also swings at balls over his head ala Gattis.

if Altuve is the best bad ball hitter Neil has ever seen, he obviously never saw Yogi Berra play.

Last week, in some of the most important stretches of games on the road, Altuve was the worse enemy to the team needs. Seems like every time you just needed a quality at bat from Altuve (RISP, etc.), he was rolling over on breaking pitches away or failing at pitches he had no business swinging at. I wasn't sure if he was pressing or not seeing the ball well, enough that he was guessing, but he looked well over matched and nothing like a team leader with his approach. It was painful to watch. If they are going to throw junk at you that is several feet outside the strikezone, take the pitch either the other way or take the walk and let the next guy get the pitcher into a situation that makes it harder for them to work out of. Lately though, he has taken the approach to heart and is taking more hits to right. That's the way they're pitching you, that's the way you hit the ball... and stay on the friggin' base and let the next few batters have quality ABs why dontcha!.

BTW - I think Jed Lowrie is the most dangerous Astros batter for opposing pitchers in terms of RISP and situational hitting. That guys gives you a quality AB every time there are ducks on the pond. Every. Time.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

When bad ball hitter is brought up, I immediately think of Vlad.

Me too.

[Navin R Johnson]

Lowrie's last plate appearance, was with 2 outs and Correa at 2nd.  Lowrie K'd on 3 pitches including swing at ball for strike three. 

[Lefty]

During the Dodgers series I swear I heard Charlie Steiner say that Altuve was leading MLB in both hits and steals  from '12-15 and the only other player to do that over a 4 year span was Ty Cobb.  I never could verify that and don't know if it still holds today.

[Bench]

RIP Yogi.

[ValpoCory]

What a stud.  Clutch hit that Miguel Tejada couldn't get in a similar tough situation.  Finishes the season with a 4.5 WAR and 830 career hits. 

Congrats to Altuve. 

[Duman]

Altuve 830 hits & 162 doubles through 668 games.  Other notable 2nd baseman through 668 games. (these are the top 2nd baseman in career war according to baseball reference who have game log data for their 668th game.  Eddie Collins & Nap Lajoie were both high in WAR but didn't have game log data for their 668th games)

Bill Herman (HOF)             867 H, 192 doubles
Frankie Frisch (HOF)          860 H, 110 dbls
Charlie Gehringer (HOF)  815 H, 148 dbls
Jackie Robinson (HOF)      808 H, 165 dbls
Robinson Cano                  791 H, 176 dbls
Rogers Hornsby (HOF)      785 H, 111 dbls
Rod Carew (HOF)               768 H, 119 dbls
Ryan Sandberg (HOF)        762 H, 134 dbls
Roberto Alomar (HOF)       760 H, 126 dbls
Chase Utley                          744 H, 173 dbls
Joe Gordon (HOF)                715 H, 132 dbls
Willie Randolph                    656 H, 90 dbls
Craig Biggio (HOF)                648 H, 113 dbls
Joe Morgan (HOF)                 647 H, 96 dbls
Jeff Kent                                  644 H, 135 dbls
Bobby Gritch                          612 H, 109 dbls
Lou Whitaker                          606 H, 79 dbls

Let that soak in for a moment.

[JimR]

Altuve 830 hits & 162 doubles through 668 games.  Other notable 2nd baseman through 668 games. (these are the top 2nd baseman in career war according to baseball reference who have game log data for their 668th game.  Eddie Collins & Nap Lajoie were both high in WAR but didn't have game log data for their 668th games)

Bill Herman (HOF)             867 H, 192 doubles
Freddy Frisch (HOF)          860 H, 110 dbls
Charlie Gehringer (HOF)  815 H, 148 dbls
Jackie Robinson (HOF)      808 H, 165 dbls
Robinson Cano                  791 H, 176 dbls
Rogers Hornsby (HOF)      785 H, 111 dbls
Rod Carew (HOF)               768 H, 119 dbls
Ryan Sandberg (HOF)        762 H, 134 dbls
Roberto Alomar (HOF)       760 H, 126 dbls
Chase Utley                          744 H, 173 dbls
Joe Gordon (HOF)                715 H, 132 dbls
Willie Randolph                    656 H, 90 dbls
Craig Biggio (HOF)                648 H, 113 dbls
Joe Morgan (HOF)                 647 H, 96 dbls
Jeff Kent                                  644 H, 135 dbls
Bobby Gritch                          612 H, 109 dbls
Lou Whitaker                          606 H, 79 dbls

Let that soak in for a moment.

his stats are other-worldly.

now back to time out.

[HudsonHawk]

his stats are other-worldly.

now back to time out.

I'm still trying to figure out who Freddy Frisch is.  The *other* Fordham Flash?

[JimR]

I'm still trying to figure out who Freddy Frisch is.  The *other* Fordham Flash?

Frankie's twin brother

[Duman]

I'm still trying to figure out who Freddy Frisch is.  The *other* Fordham Flash?

That is what his mom called him. Frankie is just what is on his baseball card.  Jeezzz everybody knows that.

 (fixed - thanks)

[Lefty]

That is what his mom called him. Frankie is just what is on his baseball card.  Jeezzz everybody knows that.

 (fixed - thanks)

His momma called him Clay, I'ma call him Clay.