Author Topic: Astros @ SeaHags June 20, 2015 (Read 6803 times)

Mr. Happy · « **on:** June 20, 2015, 07:15:55 pm »

Your lineups for tonight's late show:

Astros

RFGeorge Springer (R)
SSCarlos Correa (R)
LFPreston Tucker (L)
DHEvan Gattis (R)
CFColby Rasmus (L)
1BChris Carter (R)
3BLuis Valbuena (L)
2BMarwin Gonzalez (S)
CJason Castro (L)

HOU: Dallas Keuchel (L) (8-2, 2.04)

Sea Pussies

CF Austin Jackson (R)
LF Seth Smith (L)
2B Robinson Cano (L)
RF Nelson Cruz (R)
3B Kyle Seager (L)
DH Mark Trumbo (R)
1B Logan Morrison (L)
C Mike Zunino (R)
SS Brad Miller (L)

SEA: Taijuan Walker (R) (4-6, 5.00)

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:30:04 pm »

T2:

Home runs by Gattis and Valbuena make it a 2-0 Astros lead

doyce7 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:30:11 pm »

That's the most Astros inning possible. 2 homers and 3 K's

jbm · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:32:45 pm »

This ump is sort of pissing me off. Call it both ways you chump.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:35:56 pm »

I just don't get the shift when there are runners on and less than two outs.

jbm · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:36:42 pm »

Given that a lot of grounders off Keuchel aren't well hit, I wonder if the over shift makes as much sense with him on the mound.

jbm · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:38:45 pm »

Bold play there by Carter, getting the lead runner.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:42:50 pm »

Bold is one way to put it.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #8 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:44:39 pm »

Keuchel is all over the place.

jbm · « **Reply #9 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:47:59 pm »

That sucked. You gotta make them earn it.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #10 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:48:01 pm »

B2:

Cruz walks
Seager hits what should be a tailor made DP, but that damn shift...base hit
Trumbo grounds into FC, Cruz out 3U,

Keuchel getting frustrated with Castro

Morrison grounds into FC, Seager out 3-6 at 2B, runners at the corner with 2 out
Zunino walks to load the bases

Keuchel and Castro still can't get on the same page

Miller walks, forces in a run as Seagel scores
Jackson walks to force in another run.
Smith grounds out 6-3 to end it

But the Mariners tie it up on one single that was a routine grounder to SS.

After two...we're tied 2-2

austro · « **Reply #11 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:50:31 pm »

Jesus, when's the last time Keuchel walked four people in an inning?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #12 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:54:59 pm »

T3:

Castro strikes out
Springer singles to RF...13-game hitting streak
Correa flies out to RF
Tucker grounds out 4-3

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #13 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:55:19 pm »

Quote from: austro on June 20, 2015, 09:50:31 pm

Jesus, when's the last time Keuchel walked four people in an inning?

Four walks is his high for a game.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #14 on:** June 20, 2015, 09:58:58 pm »

Cruz homer give the Hags a 3-2 lead

austro · « **Reply #15 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:00:26 pm »

Fuuuuuuuck. I mean, you kind of expect that Cruz will get you once in a while. It's the two fucking walked-in runs that are deflating.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #16 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:03:23 pm »

B3:

Cano grounds out 4-3, lollygagging down to 1B
Cruz homers to LF

Keuchel and Castro are match made in hell

Seager strikes out
Trumbo strikes out

M's take a 3-2 lead after three

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #17 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:04:31 pm »

Quote from: austro on June 20, 2015, 10:00:26 pm

Fuuuuuuuck. I mean, you kind of expect that Cruz will get you once in a while. It's the two fucking walked-in runs that are deflating.

Yeah, giving up two runs without them putting a ball in play is not a formula for success.

NeilT · « **Reply #18 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:05:54 pm »

Quote from: austro on June 20, 2015, 09:50:31 pm

Jesus, when's the last time Keuchel walked four people in an inning?

Little league, 1996 owls club bears were playing the Sullivan funeral home rattlers.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #19 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:09:05 pm »

T4:

Gattis grounds out 6-3 on a pitch 9 feet outside
Rasmus strikes out on a pitch he has to back up to hack at
Carter strikes out...that's 8 through four innings

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #20 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:16:07 pm »

B4:

Morrison strikes out
Zunino strikes out looking
MIller grounds to SS, Correa makes a great play to get to it...but guess what, the shift was on so it's a single
Jackson strikes out

Through four...3-2 Mariners

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:22:05 pm »

T5:

Valbuena hammers one into RCF, but Jackson runs it down
Marwin flies out F8
Castro strikes out

NeilT · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:26:20 pm »

When was the last time Keuchel gave up two home runs in a game.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #23 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:30:17 pm »

B5:

Smith homers to CF
Cano grounds out 3U
Cruz strikes out looking
Seager pops out to SS

M's lead 4-2

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #24 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:38:48 pm »

T6:

Springer grounds out 6-3
Correa doubles off the RF wall
Tucker strikes out, his mechanics are a wreck right now
Gattis pops out to SS as fan interference is called

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #25 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:39:10 pm »

I'm trying to remember the last time the Astros scored on something other than a HR

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #26 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:41:41 pm »

Hinch gets ejected for arguing the call...so did the fan.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #27 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:48:09 pm »

B6:

Trumbo homers to CF
Morrison grounds out 6-3
Zunino lines one to SS...Correa with a leaping grab!!
Miller grounds out 4-3

But another leadoff homer run makes it 5-2

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #28 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:52:42 pm »

Holy Shit what a play by Correa...

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OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #29 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:54:31 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 20, 2015, 10:48:09 pm

Zunino lines one to SS...Correa with a leaping grab!!

I didn't think he had an icebergs chance in hell of getting to that one...

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austro · « **Reply #30 on:** June 20, 2015, 10:55:26 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on June 20, 2015, 10:26:20 pm

When was the last time Keuchel gave up ~~two~~ three home runs in a game.

FIFY

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #31 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:01:15 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 20, 2015, 10:54:31 pm

I didn't think he had an icebergs chance in hell of getting to that one...

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I didn't think LeBron James would have had a shot off the bat.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #32 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:05:03 pm »

T7:

Rasmus punches a swinging bunt just past the pitcher for a single
Carter strikes out looking

And out come McClendon, and that's it for Walker, lefthander Nuno in

Valbuena walks, Rasmus to 2B
Marwin singles to LF, Rasmus scores, Valbuena to 2B
Santana pinch hits for Castro...

That's it for Nuno...Rodney in

Santana called back for Conger, so two pinch hitters used here...

Conger breaks hit bat on a 2-0 pitch, out 3U, Valbuena to 3B, Marwin to 2B
Springer with a check swing on the first pitch, grounds out 6-3, leaves two RISP

So Rodney comes in and gets two outs without throwing a strike, but Astros get a run to make it 5-3

mrpink · « **Reply #33 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:06:08 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 20, 2015, 10:39:10 pm

I'm trying to remember the last time the Astros scored on something other than a HR

There was a power hitting catcher for Baltimore who's name I don't recall that set the record for fewest RBI (40) with at least 20 home runs. Valbuena's pretty close to that with 31 and 17.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #34 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:11:27 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 20, 2015, 11:01:15 pm

I didn't think LeBron James would have had a shot off the bat.

No joke... Damn what a play!

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chuck · « **Reply #35 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:14:06 pm »

Quote from: mrpink on June 20, 2015, 11:06:08 pm

There was a power hitting catcher for Baltimore who's name I don't recall that set the record for fewest RBI (40) with at least 20 home runs. Valbuena's pretty close to that with 31 and 17.

Chris Hoiles is the only guy I can think of offhand who fits that profile.

Sipp is not exactly lights out, is he?

MRaup · « **Reply #36 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:15:17 pm »

Goddamn, some of the hitters on this team just have zero brains with runners on.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #37 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:20:44 pm »

Man, Conger is awful behind the dish.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #38 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:21:19 pm »

Conger framed those two wild pitches perfectly... Smh...
In any event, here is the Correa .gif (apologies for the link to McTaggart...). https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/612472302383398912

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HudsonHawk · « **Reply #39 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:21:35 pm »

B7:

Sipp in for the Astros

Jackson walks
Jones, pinch hitting for Smith, tries to bunt but pops out to Sipp
Jackson move to 2B on a wild pitch, and a piss poor blocking job by Conger
Cano, who owns Sipp in his career... singles to RF on the next pitch after the wild pitch, Jackson scores

And that's all for Sipp, Fields in

Cruz flies out F9
Cano moves to 2B on a wild pitch and piss poor blocking job by Conger
Seager grounds out 4-3 to end the inning

M's pick up a run to extend lead to 6-3

mrpink · « **Reply #40 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:21:37 pm »

Quote from: chuck on June 20, 2015, 11:14:06 pm

Chris Hoiles is the only guy I can think of offhand who fits that profile.

Sipp is not exactly lights out, is he?

Yep, Hoiles was the guy. Good call.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #41 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:31:36 pm »

Would be nice to have Santana available here...

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #42 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:34:04 pm »

Strike zone got enormous this inning.

MRaup · « **Reply #43 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:37:48 pm »

This home plate ump had been fucking brutal this inning. Called 3 shinners strikes including a shinner that was also outside on Correa.

MRaup · « **Reply #44 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:38:41 pm »

So help me god, if Carter strikes out looking here I will lose my shit.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #45 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:40:45 pm »

T8:

Correa strikes out looking on a pitch at his ankles and three feet outside
Tucker hits on that came within a 1mm of the RF pole, then singles
Gattis singles, Tucker to 2B

That's it for Lowe, Furburger in

Rasmus strikes out looking

Furburger out, Smith the closer in

Carter, looking a mess, as he grabs the Golden Sombrero on a pitch that the catcher had to dive to catch.

chuck · « **Reply #46 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:40:59 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 20, 2015, 11:34:04 pm

Strike zone got enormous this inning.

Horrible. That call against Correa would have seen me thrown out. And I don't really understand why Hinch got so worked up over a clear case of fan interference.

Yeah, I lived in DC during a lot of Hoiles' tenure and then I moved to NYC so I saw quite a bit of AL East baseball back in those days.

MRaup · « **Reply #47 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:41:22 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on June 20, 2015, 11:38:41 pm

So help me god, if Carter strikes out looking here I will lose my shit.

Fuck you, Carter. That was absolutely pathetic.

chuck · « **Reply #48 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:44:15 pm »

Carter is hilarious. Blum gently suggests that the 2-0 fastball over the plate that he took JUST MIGHT have been the pitch that a real RBI guy might have looked to drive.

At least he really flashes the leather on defense.

Qualls on. Hinch running up the white flag.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #49 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:46:06 pm »

Bullshit strike zone this inning... (And you're going to lay off the fastball right down the pipe only to swing at shit the rest of the inning there Carter?!? Wtf...)...

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chuck · « **Reply #50 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:46:15 pm »

Maybe Seattle hacked into GC and introduced some malware into their shift data.

chuck · « **Reply #51 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:48:33 pm »

Maybe the Halos hacked into GC and introduced some malware into their pitch framing data.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #52 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:48:42 pm »

B8:

Qualls in

Trumbo breaks his bat, as Rasmus makes a diving grab in shallow CF
Morrison bounces weakly to SS, but that fucking shift means there's nobody there...single
Morrison steals second as Conger drops the ball
Zunino strikes out
Miller grounds out 4-1

Heading to the 9th...Astros chasing 3

MRaup · « **Reply #53 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:48:55 pm »

Quote from: chuck on June 20, 2015, 11:44:15 pm

Carter is hilarious. Blum gently suggests that the 2-0 fastball over the plate that he took JUST MIGHT have been the pitch that a real RBI guy might have looked to drive.

At least he really flashes the leather on defense.

Qualls on. Hinch running up the white flag.

Carter has whatever the opposite of killer instinct is. The potential of infinite power is completely offset (for me) by the fact he just doesn't even seem to care a little bit. Huge moment in the game and he just completely shits the bed.

chuck · « **Reply #54 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:53:07 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on June 20, 2015, 11:48:55 pm

Carter has whatever the opposite of killer instinct is. The potential of infinite power is completely offset (for me) by the fact he just doesn't even seem to care a little bit. Huge moment in the game and he just completely shits the bed.

The doesn't care idea has been floated frequently. Maybe he doesn't. But I doubt that seriously. He's not so freakishly talented that he can get by not caring while holding down a job as a major league player. No, he does not show his emotions. But I think he probably cares quite a bit; he just isn't very good.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #55 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:54:07 pm »

T9:

Valbuena, quickly falls behind 0-2 and punches out...15th on the night
Marwin grounds out 4-3
Conger grounds out 3-1

Game over

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #56 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:55:37 pm »

Quote from: chuck on June 20, 2015, 11:48:33 pm

Maybe the Halos hacked into GC and introduced some malware into their pitch framing data.

I don't even know where this idea comes from. Conger is pretty awful at framing pitches. Where he got the reputation of being a good receiver is a mystery that rivals the Lost Colony of Roanoke.

chuck · « **Reply #57 on:** June 20, 2015, 11:58:44 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 20, 2015, 11:55:37 pm

I don't even know where this idea comes from. Conger is pretty awful at framing pitches. Where he got the reputation of being a good receiver is a mystery that rivals the Lost Colony of Roanoke.

Corporan is straight-up better in every way. Quintero probably is, too.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #58 on:** June 21, 2015, 12:09:51 am »

Quote from: chuck on June 20, 2015, 11:58:44 pm

Corporan is straight-up better in every way. Quintero probably is, too.

Q is not the hitter Conger is, but Corporan is. They gave up prospects to get worse at a position that wasn't a particular problem. Corp was a perfectly acceptable backup catcher. Not one of Luhnow's smoother moves.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #59 on:** June 21, 2015, 12:22:28 am »

Quote from: chuck on June 20, 2015, 11:40:59 pm

Horrible. That call against Correa would have seen me thrown out. And I don't really understand why Hinch got so worked up over a clear case of fan interference.

Hinch explaining his peeve...he acknowledged the fan interfered, but didn't think it was right to assume it would have been a catch. He's not without a point.

chuck · « **Reply #60 on:** June 21, 2015, 02:17:28 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2015, 12:22:28 am

Hinch explaining his peeve...he acknowledged the fan interfered, but didn't think it was right to assume it would have been a catch. He's not without a point.

In what context can you not assume that the fly would have been a catch? Matt Dominguez is a Brewer, not a Mariner.

subnuclear · « **Reply #61 on:** June 21, 2015, 05:27:13 am »

I never understood that trade either ,but Corporan is hitting .169/.240/.270 this year which is a lot worse than Conger's .213/.322/.427. Carlos Perez is at .264/.278/.379 all in 27 games each.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #62 on:** June 21, 2015, 12:49:57 pm »

Quote from: chuck on June 21, 2015, 02:17:28 am

In what context can you not assume that the fly would have been a catch? Matt Dominguez is a Brewer, not a Mariner.

In the context that he was running full speed crashing into a wall. It wasn't an "ordinary effort" play, and far from a given that Miller catches it.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #63 on:** June 21, 2015, 12:51:37 pm »

Quote from: subnuclear on June 21, 2015, 05:27:13 am

I never understood that trade either ,but Corporan is hitting .169/.240/.270 this year which is a lot worse than Conger's .213/.322/.427. Carlos Perez is at .264/.278/.379 all in 27 games each.

The problem with Conger is not his hitting, though it's nothing to write home about. The problem is he's awful defensively.

austro · « **Reply #64 on:** June 21, 2015, 12:58:30 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2015, 12:51:37 pm

The problem with Conger is not his hitting, though it's nothing to write home about. The problem is he's awful defensively.

I suspect that one of those college catchers that they drafted this year will be on a fast path.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #65 on:** June 21, 2015, 03:18:46 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2015, 12:09:51 am

Q is not the hitter Conger is, but Corporan is. They gave up prospects to get worse at a position that wasn't a particular problem. Corp was a perfectly acceptable backup catcher. Not one of Luhnow's smoother moves.

Yep, this move really pissed me off (and I bet they'll wish they had Tropeano as another staring option by the end of the year...).