RIP Christopher Lee

[Ebby Calvin]

Saruman was 93.

[Bench]

And RIP Dusty Rhodes.  The American Dream was 69.

[HudsonHawk]

And RIP Dusty Rhodes.  The American Dream was 69.

Ouch.  That one hurts.  Rhodes was a rasslin legend, and an outstanding baseball in his younger days too. 

[Limey]

Saruman was 93.

He served in WW2 in a capacity for which no records exist.  One anecdote from the filming of LOTR was that he had a very specific  knowledge of the noise someone makes when they've been stabbed in the chest.  He explained that the victim doesn't cry out, because they cannot force air over their vocal chords anymore; it comes out of the hole you've just made instead.  They just kind of wheeze a bit.

Spooky.

[HudsonHawk]

He served in WW2 in a capacity for which no records exist.  One anecdote from the filming of LOTR was that he had a very specific  knowledge of the noise someone makes when they've been stabbed in the chest.  He explained that the victim doesn't cry out, because they cannot force air over their vocal chords anymore; it comes out of the hole you've just made instead.  They just kind of wheeze a bit.

Spooky.

http://wlmager.tumblr.com/post/42350397080/christopher-lee-the-real-james-bond-i-was

"From Peter Jackson’s DVD commentary: “When I was shooting the stabbing shot with Christopher, as a director would, I was explaining to him what he should do… And he says, ‘Peter, have you ever heard the sound a man makes when he’s stabbed in the back?’ And I said, 'Um, no.’ And he says 'Well, I have, and I know what to do.’”

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Also Ornette Coleman passed away yesterday. All three hit me pretty good. Dusty was one of my favorite wrestlers back in the day. I grew up going to Saturday matinees watching 1960s monster movies, to me Christopher Lee, not Bela Lugosi, was Dracula. And Coleman, the master of improvising off the melody, freed jazz.

[Knoxbanedoodle]

He served in WW2 in a capacity for which no records exist.  One anecdote from the filming of LOTR was that he had a very specific  knowledge of the noise someone makes when they've been stabbed in the chest.  He explained that the victim doesn't cry out, because they cannot force air over their vocal chords anymore; it comes out of the hole you've just made instead.  They just kind of wheeze a bit.

Spooky.

I'm blanking on when Saruman was involved with a stabbing. (Apropos of nothing: this just put me in mind of the recent euphemism "Police-involved shooting"; i.e., cell-phone video footage of another Sauron-involved stabbing is stirring controversy today in Mordor...)

Incidentally, I kind of can't believe he was only 93. Watched a very, very early Sherlock Holmes a while back (1930s, I think?)  and he seemed, while not old exactly, at least grown--the tree you don't worry about watering anymore. RIP, ya old badass.

[Limey]

I'm blanking on when Saruman was involved with a stabbing.

He, himself, was stabbed in the back by Grima at the beginning of ROTK.  He then fell eleventy-million feet and landed on a spiked waterwheel.

[MusicMan]

He, himself, was stabbed in the back by Grima at the beginning of ROTK.  He then fell eleventy-million feet and landed on a spiked waterwheel.

That's awful.  My grandfather went the same way.

[moriartp]

He, himself, was stabbed in the back by Grima at the beginning of ROTK.  He then fell eleventy-million feet and landed on a spiked waterwheel.

Wasn't that cut from the theatrical release? I can't quite remember, not having seen the non-extended version since 2003. I know at least a good chunk of the scene was cut.

[Ebby Calvin]

Wasn't that cut from the theatrical release?

This is correct.  Lee was purportedly pissed about it.

[Knoxbanedoodle]

Wasn't that cut from the theatrical release? I can't quite remember, not having seen the non-extended version since 2003. I know at least a good chunk of the scene was cut.

My God, you mean that movie was longer?

I don't remember Sarumon biting it in the book.

[moriartp]

My God, you mean that movie was longer?

I don't remember Sarumon biting it in the book.

It happens differently. He and Wormtongue had been hanging out in the Shire for a while, generally fucking shit up, and the hobbits catch them after the ring is destroyed. But if memory serves, Wormtongue still knifes Saruman before getting an arrow or two in him, so at least that part's the same.

[Limey]

It happens differently. He and Wormtongue had been hanging out in the Shire for a while, generally fucking shit up, and the hobbits catch them after the ring is destroyed. But if memory serves, Wormtongue still knifes Saruman before getting an arrow or two in him, so at least that part's the same.

Correct: the scouring of the Shire was cut from the movies (despite being foreshadowed in Frodo's visions with Galadriel in FOTR).  Also correct is that Saruman was cut from the short(er) version of ROTK and none to pleased about it.  I can see his point that there was no point in showing up to the premier of a movie from which he'd been edited out.

FWIW, I think the extended versions are the only ones to watch as there are too many continuity issues otherwise.  I've even taken the Blu Ray versions of each movie, and combined the paired disks into one file for each movie in iTunes.

[Limey]

Wasn't that cut from the theatrical release? I can't quite remember, not having seen the non-extended version since 2003. I know at least a good chunk of the scene was cut.

Here's the scene.

[JimR]

And RIP Dusty Rhodes.  The American Dream was 69.

I played HS baseball against Dusty. he was Dusty Runnels then.

[Mr. Happy]

I played HS baseball against Moses Dusty. he was Dusty Runnels then.