Author Topic: Gold Cup (Read 8469 times)

Limey · « **on:** June 10, 2015, 04:24:58 pm »

Nice warm up for the USMNT, they beat the Netherlands in Amsterdam (4-3) and today beat World Camps Germany in Cologne (2-1). Smells like victory.

Their Gold Cup campaign kicks off in Dallas on July 7 at 8:30pm CDT. I think they're ready.

MusicMan · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2015, 04:27:34 pm »

If you wanna BE the man (wooooo!) you gotta BEAT the man!

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chuck · « **Reply #2 on:** June 11, 2015, 02:16:55 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on June 10, 2015, 04:27:34 pm

If you wanna BE the man (wooooo!) you gotta BEAT the man!

My guys will bear this in mind as we share Group A with the US. This is a pretty shitty draw for us, really, since it's the only group with more than one entrant into last year's World Cup. Such is life when you can't beat a JV team on your own field to ascend to the highest heights imaginable for futbol nacional, I suppose.

We beat Mexico (twice) in the last Gold Cup and we beat the Ticos the last time we played a friendly back in March. Victory against the Ticos is not usual. So much so that some intrepid headline editor decided on SUCK IT! the day after:

http://www.critica.com.pa/sites/default/files/imagenes/2015/04/01/contra1.jpg

The local federation had to pause from their outSTANding activities to denounce publicly this uncouth brand of journalism.

Anyway, we would surely advance in either of the other two groups. Now we're going to have to beat the catrachos and turn in a decent performance against the US Americans.

This matters not because I have some burning passion to win the Copa de Oro, although in an abstract way it would be nice if my guys pulled off that feat some time in my son's lifetime. It's important to play well because I really want to qualify for 2016's Copa America, a hemispheric tournament pitting all of the decent CONMEBOL teams agains Mexico, the US, the winner of the Copa Centroamerica (Costa Rica, thanks to another sterling Panamanian fuck up) and Jamaica. Two more CONCACAF teams will qualify and a good performance in the Gold Cup is critical for Panama to get there.

Panama plays the US in the third and final game of group stage. Ordinarily I would say that I hope that the US handily wins their first two games and coasts in on the third but I think we've all seen that film before and we know how it ends.

The mood here is very sour. We got schooled in Guayaquil last week in the final friendly before the Cup. I have not seen a Panama team look as bad in a game with any significance in at least five years. No one really likes or believes in the current profe, a Colombian. He is apparently warring with some key players, one abruptly quit late last year and at least one other, the traditional captain, has an injury that he seems disinterested in returning from. The U-20 team spectacularly failed to advance recently in the U-20 World Cup in New Zealand when they were at least the equal to any team in their group.

So, yeah, when I first saw the schedule months back the first game against Haiti meant nothing to me. Maybe it will be the game the canaleros need to get back on track. Or maybe it will be another El Salvador and we'll be badly embarrassed on an important stage. I would not be terribly surprised by either eventuality.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #3 on:** June 11, 2015, 06:52:34 am »

Quote from: Limey on June 10, 2015, 04:24:58 pm

Nice warm up for the USMNT, they beat the Netherlands in Amsterdam (4-3) and today beat World Camps Germany in Cologne (2-1). Smells like victory.

Their Gold Cup campaign kicks off in Dallas on July 7 at 8:30pm CDT. I think they're ready.

Great wins - both of them. They were wins against "A" sides. Older USMNT would have been happy with a draw and likely played defensively in the final 10 mins. The squad here will be a bit different, but could actually be seen as being better talent than what was used in Europe. I look forward to seeing them in Dallas in a few weeks - going with a Honduran friend of mine.

chuck - I'll root for you boys in the first game. Blas should get plenty of support here if he plays. Oh, btw that trip to Panama looks like it will likely be in July. Will keep you updated.

chuck · « **Reply #4 on:** June 11, 2015, 01:34:24 pm »

Quote from: Uncle Charlie on June 11, 2015, 06:52:34 am

chuck - I'll root for you boys in the first game. Blas should get plenty of support here if he plays. Oh, btw that trip to Panama looks like it will likely be in July. Will keep you updated.

Blas will play. He's the only credible goal scorer that Bolillo seems willing to put on the field. Bolillo's warring with Gaby Torres, too, for some reason. Maybe Ismael Diaz will see some action. Otherwise it is rough up top because I don't think Tejada has very much left.

I'm sure you know that Rolando Escobar now plays for Dallas, too. I've always liked that guy. He played very well in Venezuela over the last several years and in the Copa Libertadores and I never understood why Julio Dely rarely ever put him on the national team during his tenure. I don't have a clear sense of who Bolillo has in mind as volantes, probably Cooper and Quintero. But Rolando could very well play, also.

Oddly enough I have to go to the US for a few days during the group stage of the Gold Cup but otherwise I'll be here. Let me know.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2015, 04:21:46 pm »

Not an encouraging showing by the USMNT last night. Beckerman looked like he hadn't passed a soccer ball in several months....the back line was atrocious, led by Chandler and Brooks....and Jozy was completely disinterested in being there. Guzan was a force and Duece showed up when he needed to.

I'll chalk most of it up to it being the first game and JK doing a bit of testing of younger players. Surely Gonzalez and Belser will be centerbacks in the knockout stages and Bedoya & Zusi will find regular playing time. However, I cannot excuse Jozy's lack of interest. He walked, or stood, for the majority of the match. I'm not sure what it looked like on TV, but from inside the stadium it was noticed by many around me. The guy next to me said as they were walking onto the pitch to start the 2nd half (Jozy was having to talk to the center line through the Honduran side): "I bet if the referee would let him start on that side of the field he'd just stand there at the top of the box and agree to not move until the ball passed him." I'm beginning to think he is not the answer up there. I love the long ball hold-up play but it just isn't worth the remaining lack of effort.

doyce7 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2015, 04:47:52 pm »

Quote from: Uncle Charlie on July 08, 2015, 04:21:46 pm

Not an encouraging showing by the USMNT last night. Beckerman looked like he hadn't passed a soccer ball in several months....the back line was atrocious, led by Chandler and Brooks....and Jozy was completely disinterested in being there. Guzan was a force and Duece showed up when he needed to.

I'll chalk most of it up to it being the first game and JK doing a bit of testing of younger players. Surely Gonzalez and Belser will be centerbacks in the knockout stages and Bedoya & Zusi will find regular playing time. However, I cannot excuse Jozy's lack of interest. He walked, or stood, for the majority of the match. I'm not sure what it looked like on TV, but from inside the stadium it was noticed by many around me. The guy next to me said as they were walking onto the pitch to start the 2nd half (Jozy was having to talk to the center line through the Honduran side): "I bet if the referee would let him start on that side of the field he'd just stand there at the top of the box and agree to not move until the ball passed him." I'm beginning to think he is not the answer up there. I love the long ball hold-up play but it just isn't worth the remaining lack of effort.

I think brooks played pretty well but he was the only one on the back line. I agree beckerman was terrible and Bradley wasn't great either. The team as whole didn't play very well but we're able to capitalize on set pieces. I expect them to play better the rest of the way

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austro · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2015, 09:42:51 pm »

Quote from: doyce7 on July 08, 2015, 04:47:52 pm

I think brooks played pretty well but he was the only one on the back line. I agree beckerman was terrible and Bradley wasn't great either. The team as whole didn't play very well but we're able to capitalize on set pieces. I expect them to play better the rest of the way

Bradley was invisible for long stretches of play. I don't get it.

doyce7 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2015, 10:27:19 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 08, 2015, 09:42:51 pm

Bradley was invisible for long stretches of play. I don't get it.

Bradley is a strange player to watch to me. Sometimes he's invisible, sometimes(world Cup) he seems to run around in circles. He's all over the place and nowhere. It's weird.

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Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2015, 11:18:25 am »

This is about year ~5 for me following soccer. What a great summer this has been. U20 World Cup, Copa America, Women's World Cup and now the Gold Cup. As soon as the Gold Cup concludes the EPL starts back up. Soccer never stops.

As for the USMNT... That was a pretty uninspiring performance is Dallas. I wish Bedoya was healthy, I'd rather him play RM and move Yedlin to RB. Jozy looked awful too, it is too bad they didn't bring along Jordan Morris or weren't opposed to starting Johnnasson...

austro · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2015, 09:09:00 pm »

Wow, this Cuba defense is really, really bad.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #11 on:** July 10, 2015, 06:42:14 am »

Cuba is bad, but this certainly didn't help. Missing 7 players and their coach.

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http://www.espnfc.us/concacaf-gold-cup/story/2517408/cuba-without-7-players-and-manager-vs-mexico-in-gold-cup

Six Cuba players and manager Raul Gonzalez Triana will not arrive in Chicago in time for Thursday's Gold Cup match against Mexico.

"Logistical problems" reportedly prevented the team members from leaving Antigua after an Olympic qualifier.

The delay was reported hours after striker Keiler Garcia left the team to defect on Wednesday morning.

austro · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2015, 06:52:01 pm »

Suicide watch for chuck... Honduras-Panama starting to get out of control.

chuck · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2015, 07:21:31 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 10, 2015, 06:52:01 pm

Suicide watch for chuck... Honduras-Panama starting to get out of control.

I'm over getting all that upset about it. A little later I'll post a list of the games we've either lost or allowed a draw in the final ten minutes. It's impressive.

austro · « **Reply #14 on:** July 10, 2015, 07:26:26 pm »

Quote from: chuck on July 10, 2015, 07:21:31 pm

I'm over getting all that upset about it. A little later I'll post a list of the games we've either lost or allowed a draw in the final ten minutes. It's impressive.

The collapse on the last night of the 2014 World Cup qualifiers has to be near the top.

chuck · « **Reply #15 on:** July 10, 2015, 07:41:55 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 10, 2015, 07:26:26 pm

The collapse on the last night of the 2014 World Cup qualifiers has to be near the top.

In terms of pain and import and all that, sure, it was the worst easily. But this list will show that it is not any sort of outlier.

Salv 2 Pan 1 UNCAF 2001 Min 90
CR 2 Pan 1 UNCAF 2001 Min 84
Mex 1 Pan 0 Eliminatorias 2002 Min 88
Can 1 Pan 0 Elimin 2002 Min 81
Nic 1 Pan 0 UNCAF 2003 Min 83
USA 1 Pan 1 Elimin 2004 Min 90
CR 1 Pan 0 UNCAF 2005 Min 81
Hon 1 Pan 0 Oro 2005 Min 81
Guat 2 Pan 1 Elimin 2005 Min 92
CR 2 Pan 1 Elimin 2006 Min 90
CR 1 Pan 1 UNCAF   2007 Min 85
USA 2 Pan 1 Oro 2009 Min 106
Par 1 Pan 0 Amist 2012 Min 88
CR 2 Pan 2 Elimin 2014 Min 84
Peru 2 Pan 1 Amist   2014 Min 84
Mex 2 Pan 1 Elimin   2014 Min 85
USA 3 Pan 2 Elimin 2014 Min 90+1, 90+2
CR 2 Pan 2 Elimin 2014 Min 81, 87
Mex 1 Pan 0 Amist 2014 Min 87
Hait 1 Pan 1 Oro 2015 Min 85
Hon 1 Pan 1 Oro 2015 Min 81

austro · « **Reply #16 on:** July 10, 2015, 08:23:27 pm »

Altidore is useless. Surely we have some youngster who would benefit from the experience.

austro · « **Reply #17 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:24:39 pm »

Guzan has been really solid tonight.

chuck · « **Reply #18 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:25:08 pm »

I guess Haiti's better than I'd credited them.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #19 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:58:54 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 10, 2015, 08:23:27 pm

Altidore is useless. Surely we have some youngster who would benefit from the experience.

If this continues, I cannot imagine Altidore starting at the next WC, maybe even the Centurio.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #20 on:** July 11, 2015, 12:27:58 am »

Quote from: austro on July 10, 2015, 08:23:27 pm

Altidore is useless. Surely we have some youngster who would benefit from the experience.

Jozy is coming off an injury and is playing like it. He has no business starting or playing. Originally he was gonna be held out of the group stage and be brought in for the knockout round. Id much rather see Zardes or AJ playing than Jozy. Or Jordan Morris.

JJxvi · « **Reply #21 on:** July 13, 2015, 11:27:38 am »

Morris is injured

chuck · « **Reply #22 on:** July 13, 2015, 08:21:12 pm »

Oigan, awebaos, suerte.

hostros7 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 13, 2015, 08:36:35 pm »

Is this game only televised in Houston on the Spanish channel?

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hostros7 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 13, 2015, 08:47:22 pm »

Fox sports 1. Always forget to check that one.

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MusicMan · « **Reply #25 on:** July 14, 2015, 09:19:10 am »

That was... rather unimpressive.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #26 on:** July 14, 2015, 04:08:29 pm »

JK makes 3 changes: Jozy out, DaMarcus returns to international duty

Good to see DaMarcus back - solidifying that left back position. Altidore isn''t working, either due to his injury or desire or skill...not sure which. Have to say I'm a bit surprised that Matt Besler wasn't brought up to solidify that CB area.

Good luck to the boys in the knockout phase.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #27 on:** July 14, 2015, 04:30:00 pm »

Quote from: JJxvi on July 13, 2015, 11:27:38 am

Morris is injured

Didn't realize that. Thanks for the heads up.

I'm glad Jozy was moved out. I want to see Zardes/Johhannson up top. God help me if Wondo gets another start. Beasely is a guy it is impossible to root against, but I'd rather see younger guys at this point.

And as "bad" as the US played yesterday (with our B- team with nothing to play for) Honduras, Mexico, Costa Rica and Panama would love to be playing as bad as we are now.

Here is what I'd like to see in the knockout

-------------Johhannson/Zardes--Dempsey
Fabian Johnson--Bradley---Bedoya
-----------------Beckerman
Beasley--Brooks--Omar---Yedlin

austro · « **Reply #28 on:** July 14, 2015, 08:11:37 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on July 14, 2015, 04:30:00 pm

Didn't realize that. Thanks for the heads up.

I'm glad Jozy was moved out. I want to see Zardes/Johhannson up top. God help me if Wondo gets another start. Beasely is a guy it is impossible to root against, but I'd rather see younger guys at this point.

And as "bad" as the US played yesterday (with our B- team with nothing to play for) Honduras, Mexico, Costa Rica and Panama would love to be playing as bad as we are now.

Here is what I'd like to see in the knockout

-------------Johhannson/Zardes--Dempsey
Fabian Johnson--Bradley---Bedoya
-----------------Beckerman
Beasley--Brooks--Omar---Yedlin

Brooks won't be playing Saturday because of yellow cards. Who's going into center back with Omar? Beckerman scares the shit out of me. He seems awfully slow.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #29 on:** July 15, 2015, 10:27:38 am »

New players coming in, Altidore replaced by Gordon, Garza replaced by Beasley and Morales replaced by Joe Corona.

Surprised Besler wasn't called up since Brooks is out for the 1st game.

As for the knockout stage....
The USMNT 1st round opponent will be either Guatemala/El Salvador then would play the winner of Jamaica and Haiti.

With the updated roster, my guess on Jurgen's lineup for the 1st game of the knock out round.

--------Zardes--Dempsey
F Johnson-----Bradley----Bedoya
-------------Beckerman
Beasley---Omar--Alvarado---Chandler

austro · « **Reply #30 on:** July 15, 2015, 06:42:33 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on July 15, 2015, 10:27:38 am

As for the knockout stage....
The USMNT 1st round opponent will be either Guatemala/El Salvador then would play the winner of Jamaica and Haiti.

Cubans surprisingly throwing a wrench into that: announcers are saying that if their 1-0 lead holds up, they'll advance to the quarterfinals to play the US.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #31 on:** July 15, 2015, 07:19:38 pm »

And somehow Cuba wins and advances, despite being outscored 8-1 over 3 matches.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #32 on:** July 16, 2015, 12:45:25 pm »

What an absolutely perfect ending to the Mexico vs Trindad & Tobago game.

Mexico goes up 2-0, they are cruising. Then T&T get both back and tie it at 2-2. Mexico needed a win, to win their group. Mexico then gives up a 3rd straight and are down 3-2. El Tri's captain hits an absolute bomb from outside the penalty area to tie it up with around 15 minutes to play. Then a T&T own goal gives the lead back to Mexico 4-3

4 minutes of stoppage time is down to one last play, T&T wins a corner with seconds left. The T&T player lines up for the corner and just gets showered with trash, mostly water bottles, from the Mexican fans. He is also lit up like a Christmas tree from Mexicans shining laser pointers at him. Trash is literally raining down on him. The Ref doesn't do shit. Clearly security wasn't doing anything either. Why the fuck they didn't stop the game I have no idea. He is trying to take a corner from a spot that looks like some just dumped over a 55 gallon recycling bin.

T&T player says fuck it, strikes the ball, swings it perfectly in and his fellow teammate heads it in for the goal/tie. Just incredible. Fuck those pieces of shit who were throwing all that crap on the field. It was enjoyable watching them have to eat a shit sandwich as Mexico lost the group.

Here is the video for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QWjMfwT1zo

That was one of the most entertaining matches I have seen in awhile, made all the better by knowing I wasn't watching the stupidass ESPYs.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #33 on:** July 16, 2015, 06:10:30 pm »

That was very entertaining.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #34 on:** July 16, 2015, 07:39:00 pm »

Absolutely ridiculous....and with MLS's best ref

austro · « **Reply #35 on:** July 16, 2015, 10:15:07 pm »

Quote from: Uncle Charlie on July 16, 2015, 07:39:00 pm

Absolutely ridiculous....and with MLS's best ref

He's their best? He did not have a good night.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #36 on:** July 17, 2015, 10:31:16 am »

Quote from: austro on July 16, 2015, 10:15:07 pm

He's their best? He did not have a good night.

At least according to this power ranking and that he was named MLS referee of the year in both 2011 and 2014. Of course, he faced a bit of controversy in the World Cup for the lack of issuing a red card on a very bad foul.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #37 on:** July 19, 2015, 06:09:38 pm »

Two very tired teams in Panama and Trinidad & Tobago going to penalties. The heat has taken its toll and both sides are exhausted. Hope Panama wins as Blas should have finished it off in the closing minutes of regulation.

austro · « **Reply #38 on:** July 19, 2015, 06:35:14 pm »

Exhale, chuck.

chuck · « **Reply #39 on:** July 19, 2015, 08:05:32 pm »

That was really weird. Blas is such a piranha, he never misses a decent chance inside the box much less a total gift like that. We dominated totally for two hours but it almost didn't matter. Jaime saved our asses and not a moment too soon.

Maybe this will wake Bolillo up to the fact that the team is better off without Gavilán and with Arroyo and Torres.

I'd like to see the Ticos win this one, not necessarily because I would rather face them (I'm not at all sure that I would) but because I'd love to see seventy thousand Mexicans go home angry and disappointed.

Most importantly, we should end up with the highest ranking among the four teams vying for the two remaining Copa América spots - Cuba, Haiti, T&T and us. And if that is the case we will play Cuba for a spot in the tournament, a game we should certainly win. SHOULD win. But I would definitely rather play Cuba than T&T or Haiti again. Those two teams have shown me that they do not suck, at all.

austro · « **Reply #40 on:** July 19, 2015, 09:27:47 pm »

What a horrible, horrible decision by the referee to gift that game to Mexico. That was a travesty.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #41 on:** July 19, 2015, 09:40:13 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 19, 2015, 09:27:47 pm

What a horrible, horrible decision by the referee to gift that game to Mexico. That was a travesty.

It was certainly that, though Mexico was the better team. Campbell is so good and it looks like the Mexicans will consistently have a scary threat in Corona for years to come.

austro · « **Reply #42 on:** July 19, 2015, 10:07:19 pm »

Quote from: Uncle Charlie on July 19, 2015, 09:40:13 pm

It was certainly that, though Mexico was the better team. Campbell is so good and it looks like the Mexicans will consistently have a scary threat in Corona for years to come.

Corona was scintillating.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #43 on:** July 19, 2015, 11:02:53 pm »

If the Mexicans could shoot, they'd have been up 3 or 4 in regulation. The Panama/Mex game, both teams coming off 120 minutes and only getting 2 days rest. Ouch.

austro · « **Reply #44 on:** July 22, 2015, 05:48:16 pm »

This is some of the sorriest defense and finishing I've seen in a long time. And Bradley is well on his way to his usual quota of half-a-dozen dreadful giveaways at midfield.

chuck · « **Reply #45 on:** July 22, 2015, 05:57:29 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 22, 2015, 05:48:16 pm

And Bradley is well on his way to his usual quota of half-a-dozen dreadful giveaways at midfield.

He's in a stiff competition with Beckerman.

austro · « **Reply #46 on:** July 22, 2015, 06:07:56 pm »

Bradley's lack of awareness of people closing on him from behind is astonishing.

chuck · « **Reply #47 on:** July 22, 2015, 07:57:36 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DXm80NiqH8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iJis8ib1D8

Vamos, muchachos!

austro · « **Reply #48 on:** July 22, 2015, 09:03:28 pm »

I see that Panama is down to 10 men, but I've been watching Castro wave at pitches, both with and without his gear on. Who got sent off, and why? I'm beginning to feel like starting some conspiracy rumors about FIFA fixing this tournament for Mexico.

chuck · « **Reply #49 on:** July 22, 2015, 09:10:52 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 22, 2015, 09:03:28 pm

I see that Panama is down to 10 men, but I've been watching Castro wave at pitches, both with and without his gear on. Who got sent off, and why? I'm beginning to feel like starting some conspiracy rumors about FIFA fixing this tournament for Mexico.

El Matador (Tejada) got a straight red for some fucking bullshit. He and some Mexican cocksucker jumped up for a ball in the air, Tejada's wrist made contact with the cocksucker's forehead - he pushed him rather than struck him, and he was looking at the ball, looking away from the cocksucker. Call a foul, sure. I would have been annoyed with a yellow. There was plainly no intent at all. But a straight red? Couple that with the fucked up call the Mexicans got against Costa Rica at literally the last second and you have to conclude either that CONCACAF is more rigged than the NBA or that the fucking narcos can bribe anyone. Maybe both.

Fuck it, we got to halftime tied. We're playing hard. We can sneak a goal in here somehow.

chuck · « **Reply #50 on:** July 22, 2015, 10:06:52 pm »

And of course it gets worse.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #51 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:26:54 pm »

Quote from: chuck on July 22, 2015, 10:06:52 pm

And of course it gets worse.

Same ref as...

Edited - I meant Mexico - T&T which chuck brilliantly described

chuck · « **Reply #52 on:** July 22, 2015, 11:46:01 pm »

Quote from: Uncle Charlie on July 22, 2015, 11:26:54 pm

Same ref as the Mexico Costa Rica match.

Every Mexican periodista de futbol that I know and every Mexican friend that I have, basically every Mexican with any integrity, is saying that the whole thing was a fucking joke. Which it was. We kicked their Mexican ass with ten guys and as I sit here that fucking Piojo is in front of the press trying to justify the whole thing. The Panamanian coach is saying he wants to retire from futbol because it's so fucked up.

The Panamanian players are about to give their remarks to the press. That should be good.

Whatever. A country of three million kicked the ass of a country of two hundred and twenty million for two solid hours and David Stern I mean concacaf robbed us of the result just like they robbed Costa Rica a couple of days earlier.

Fuck it. Those Mexican cocksuckers get to live in a country that is dominated by narcos. Get control of your country or enjoy every fucking break in or kidnapping you endure.

Pero ete Piojo si ta feo, cha.

Y que vayas a la puta verga, Geiger.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #53 on:** July 23, 2015, 12:02:56 am »

Just awful. What a fucking sham. Only thing worse in this tournament than the officiating is the mexican fans.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #54 on:** July 23, 2015, 12:10:21 am »

https://twitter.com/BrianStraus/status/624082504262250496

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #55 on:** July 23, 2015, 09:18:48 am »

https://twitter.com/mlsist/status/624207933383938048

Panamanian paper takes a subtle jab at the officiating.

chuck · « **Reply #56 on:** July 23, 2015, 10:58:18 am »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on July 23, 2015, 09:18:48 am

https://twitter.com/mlsist/status/624207933383938048

Panamanian paper takes a subtle jab at the officiating.

The former President popularized the word when he had a bipolar meltdown on national tv insisting that he had not taken UN FOKIN REAL from the national coffers. A real is a nickel, and, as it turns out, he took more than a few reales. We're still trying to sort it out but overcharges to a sort of welfare program meant to help children and the elderly ran into the hundreds of millions of dollars. So that's just one scam and needless to say there were many more.

One former Supreme Court justice is now in jail (doesn't that sound appealing?), several ministers are in jail, a dude named Chi-Chi who was the chief of staff, jail, several prominent developers, jail, and really we're just getting started. The former President, by the way, is living happily in Miami. A Lexus dealership recently tweeted a picture of him and his salesman upon the purchase of a new car.

MusicMan · « **Reply #57 on:** July 23, 2015, 12:18:53 pm »

Turns out that it doesn't matter that we lost to Jamaica. CONCACAF was giving this tourney to Mexico come hell or high water.

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Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #58 on:** July 23, 2015, 12:42:29 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on July 23, 2015, 12:18:53 pm

Turns out that it doesn't matter that we lost to Jamaica. CONCACAF was giving this tourney to Mexico come hell or high water.

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Agree.

For those not aware, if the US won this years Gold Cup they would get an automatic bid to play in the prestigious Confederations Cup (due to the fact that we won the GC in 2013). If the US doesn't win, there will be a 1 game playoff between this years winner and the US.

FYI, the Rose Bowl has already been confirmed to be the host, the match will be in October.

How much money is CONCACAF poised to make in a USA Mexico match, that is actually meaningful, in southern California, in a stadium that holds 90,000 people.

Mexico has been a trash team since the Hex in 2013. They havent faired much better this year or in this cup. They have had some nice possession #s, and some flair but they can not score.....well unless the ref gifts them goals.

Since Guardado scored in the 88th minute vs T&T to tie things up, Mexico has score 4 goals. 1 Own goal from T&T and 3 penalty kicks. That is in more than 250 minutes of game time. That also includes 90 minutes of playing against a 10 man Panama team.

chuck · « **Reply #59 on:** July 26, 2015, 12:07:47 am »

So in addition to beating Mexico with ten men (unofficially) and beating the US (officially) Panama is the only team in the history of national selection futbol to have ended six straight games tied at the same score (1-1 in our case; never say we are not an equitable people) at the end of 90 minutes. So we have that going for us.

Meanwhile, as an obvious concha de tu madre from FIFA for our small part in blowing the lid off of how obscenely corrupt this whole thing is, we got 'drawn' into the third round concacaf WC qualification group of death. Fuck it. As long as Geiger stays away we'll win that shit, too. My animus towards the Ticos has been ameliorated quite a bit after their 'naciones unidas' bit in the wake of our both having been Meximolested in a vile and violent way but I still want to beat their asses.