Author Topic: Queso (Read 9013 times)

NeilT · « **on:** April 20, 2015, 05:34:16 pm »

This is wrong in so many ways.

http://nypost.com/2015/04/18/the-hot-new-queso-dish-thats-driving-new-yorkers-loco/

Bench · « **Reply #1 on:** April 20, 2015, 05:44:16 pm »

My grandmother moved from Pontotoc, Mississippi to Montclair, New Jersey shortly before the "paper bag chicken" craze hit the north-east. She would often tell me how her neighbors would breathlessly gush to her about this amazing new way to make chicken which involved shaking the chicken in a paper bag with flour and then frying it.

hostros7 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 20, 2015, 06:41:49 pm »

Comical that he says he won't even tell his wife the recipe as though it's something complicated.

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HudsonHawk · « **Reply #3 on:** April 20, 2015, 07:09:30 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on April 20, 2015, 05:34:16 pm

This is wrong in so many ways.

Most notably 12 skins for damn bowl of chips and queso. What in the hell is the world coming to?

juliogotay · « **Reply #4 on:** April 20, 2015, 07:36:18 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on April 20, 2015, 05:34:16 pm

This is wrong in so many ways.

http://nypost.com/2015/04/18/the-hot-new-queso-dish-thats-driving-new-yorkers-loco/

I'm not sure what you are objecting to? The dish itself or the fact that they are doing it in NY? Bob Armstrong is actually very good. It's almost a meal in itself....at least from a caloric standpoint.

austro · « **Reply #5 on:** April 20, 2015, 07:42:52 pm »

On a related note, I've never understood the religious fervor about Matt's El Rancho, either. Pretty rudimentary Tex-Mex, in my opinion.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #6 on:** April 20, 2015, 08:19:20 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on April 20, 2015, 07:36:18 pm

I'm not sure what you are objecting to? The dish itself or the fact that they are doing it in NY? Bob Armstrong is actually very good. It's almost a meal in itself....at least from a caloric standpoint.

The fact that they think queso is somehow a new discovery.

homer · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2015, 08:49:48 pm »

The article is a paid advertisement.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #8 on:** April 21, 2015, 05:53:00 am »

Quote from: homer on April 20, 2015, 08:49:48 pm

The article is a paid advertisement.

Amen.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #9 on:** April 21, 2015, 06:29:13 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 20, 2015, 07:09:30 pm

Most notably 12 skins for damn bowl of chips and queso. What in the hell is the world coming to?

+1

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #10 on:** April 21, 2015, 06:31:09 am »

Quote from: austro on April 20, 2015, 07:42:52 pm

On a related note, I've never understood the religious fervor about Matt's El Rancho, either. Pretty rudimentary Tex-Mex, in my opinion.

It's no El Azteca. Nor El Gallo.

juliogotay · « **Reply #11 on:** April 21, 2015, 07:47:49 am »

Quote from: austro on April 20, 2015, 07:42:52 pm

On a related note, I've never understood the religious fervor about Matt's El Rancho, either. Pretty rudimentary Tex-Mex, in my opinion.

Probably only among older folks who remember the heyday of El Rancho when Matt was alive and it was downtown. There weren't that many Mexican restaurants in Austin when it opened and its' location to the capitol and U.T. made it convenient. Coach Royal, LBJ and many other powerbrokers were regulars and put it on the gastronomical map. My kids wouldn't be caught dead there.

juliogotay · « **Reply #12 on:** April 21, 2015, 07:53:34 am »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on April 21, 2015, 06:29:13 am

+1

A lot of that price is it being in NYC and Gramercy Park is an expensive neighborhood. The same dish at Matt's in Dallas is $6.95 for regular, $8.95 large.

Limey · « **Reply #13 on:** April 21, 2015, 09:36:01 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 20, 2015, 07:09:30 pm

Most notably 12 skins for damn bowl of chips and queso. What in the hell is the world coming to?

I went to Anejo last week (the new joint in Arturo's old space); queso there is $16.50. It's served all fancy on a board with the DIY pico on the side but, for that much money, I should be able to swim in the bowl. Oh, and it's just fucking cheese so how does it cost so much?

FYI, Anejo is a great place to take a really fancy client (say, someone from NYC) who has never had Tex-Mex before. Otherwise, do not bother under any circumstances

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #14 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:11:05 am »

Quote from: Limey on April 21, 2015, 09:36:01 am

FYI, Anejo is a great place to take a really fancy client (say, someone from NYC) who has never had Tex-Mex before. Otherwise, do not bother under any circumstances

In other words, it's fine Tex-Mex for someone who doesn't know any better?

subnuclear · « **Reply #15 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:15:06 am »

Quote from: Limey on April 21, 2015, 09:36:01 am

I went to Anejo last week (the new joint in Arturo's old space); queso there is $16.50. It's served all fancy on a board with the DIY pico on the side but, for that much money, I should be able to swim in the bowl. Oh, and it's just fucking cheese so how does it cost so much?

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Cheese can be pretty pricey, but probably not the type that melts properly and complements ro-tel.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #16 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:16:50 am »

On a side note...10 OWA bonus points are awarded to Neil for starting a thread about queso. We have many about beer, but there should be more about queso. It needs to be balanced.

Limey · « **Reply #17 on:** April 21, 2015, 11:17:49 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 21, 2015, 10:11:05 am

In other words, it's fine Tex-Mex for someone who doesn't know any better?

Correct. But they have tons of smartly dressed staff to fawn over you and make you feel special.

Limey · « **Reply #18 on:** April 21, 2015, 11:20:37 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 21, 2015, 10:16:50 am

On a side note...10 OWA bonus points are awarded to Neil for starting a thread about queso. We have many about beer, but there should be more about queso. It needs to be balanced.

Papparuchos on Alabama at Sage has excellent queso. Adding to its south of the border authenticity, it's also an organisational and infrastructure clusterfuck, but with every screen tuned in to futbol.

Dark Star · « **Reply #19 on:** April 21, 2015, 11:34:33 am »

I am assuming somehow or another Bobby Flay has something to do with this. Or his planning on co-opting it soon. Or something.

homer · « **Reply #20 on:** April 21, 2015, 12:49:55 pm »

Quote from: Limey on April 21, 2015, 09:36:01 am

It's served all fancy on a board

Do they just pour it all over the board and give you a biscuit to sop it up?

drew corleone · « **Reply #21 on:** April 21, 2015, 04:23:36 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on April 21, 2015, 07:47:49 am

Probably only among older folks who remember the heyday of El Rancho when Matt was alive and it was downtown. There weren't that many Mexican restaurants in Austin when it opened and its' location to the capitol and U.T. made it convenient. Coach Royal, LBJ and many other powerbrokers were regulars and put it on the gastronomical map. My kids wouldn't be caught dead there.

This fall marks 20 years in Austin for me. I have never been to Matt's.

NeilT · « **Reply #22 on:** April 21, 2015, 04:42:42 pm »

I'm a fan of Matt's, and have been going there since it was on Cesar Chavez (nee 1st) St. I am extraordinarily fond of the chili rellenos. I never have anything else. Except for margaritas. And Bob Armstrong queso.

I actually came to Matt's because my favorite place, El Tapatia, closed, and I like the El Rancho less in the new building. There was some charm in the old place that's missing.

juliogotay · « **Reply #23 on:** April 21, 2015, 05:03:19 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on April 21, 2015, 04:42:42 pm

I'm a fan of Matt's, and have been going there since it was on Cesar Chavez (nee 1st) St. I am extraordinarily fond of the chili rellenos. I never have anything else. Except for margaritas. And Bob Armstrong queso.

I actually came to Matt's because my favorite place, El Tapatia, closed, and I like the El Rancho less in the new building. There was some charm in the old place that's missing.

La Tap was my favorite. Went there weekly when I was in school. And the rellenos are the go-to dish for me at any Martinez restaurant. There are several Matt's and Mattitos up here in DFW. There was also a place called El Matamoros at the interregional and, I think, 6th Street. It had been my uncle's favorite place when he was in school in the '40s.

austro · « **Reply #24 on:** April 21, 2015, 07:42:18 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on April 21, 2015, 05:03:19 pm

La Tap was my favorite. Went there weekly when I was in school. And the rellenos are the go-to dish for me at any Martinez restaurant. There are several Matt's and Mattitos up here in DFW. There was also a place called El Matamoros at the interregional and, I think, 6th Street. It had been my uncle's favorite place when he was in school in the '40s.

La Tapatia was my father-in-law's favorite. I think it had been there since he was in law school in the 50's. And thanks for the El Matamoros memory; I think that was my first Austin Tex-Mex when my future wife and I came up to find a place to rent.

juliogotay · « **Reply #25 on:** April 21, 2015, 08:14:44 pm »

Quote from: austro on April 21, 2015, 07:42:18 pm

La Tapatia was my father-in-law's favorite. I think it had been there since he was in law school in the 50's. And thanks for the El Matamoros memory; I think that was my first Austin Tex-Mex when my future wife and I came up to find a place to rent.

I remember that neon sign at El Mat that you could see from the highway. It took me a while to figure out what the hell it was.

This will bring back some memories for some of you. http://www.austinchronicle.com/food/2008-09-12/671817/

drew corleone · « **Reply #26 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:00:23 pm »

Good rellenos? That is probably my favorite tex mex item. I used to love Jamie's on Red River, though their version of the chile relleno was just a bell pepper filled with taco meat covered in queso and chili gravy. But damn it was delicious.

NeilT · « **Reply #27 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:14:30 pm »

Quote from: drew corleone on April 21, 2015, 10:00:23 pm

Good rellenos? That is probably my favorite tex mex item. I used to love Jamie's on Red River, though their version of the chile relleno was just a bell pepper filled with taco meat covered in queso and chili gravy. But damn it was delicious.

Their chili rellenos are peculiar. I'm convinced they owe as much to Al-Andalus as Austin.

chuck · « **Reply #28 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:26:44 pm »

My dad was crazy about Jaime's. I guess he'd gone there quite a bit when he was in school, but I doubt we ever missed an opportunity to go there when we were in Austin together. I have a lot of memories of being 8, 10, 12, eating enchiladas in there. I doubt that my current snobbish self would think much of the food now but fortunately for me it's closed and I have no way to sully the memories.

Dark Star · « **Reply #29 on:** April 22, 2015, 08:23:18 am »

Quote from: chuck on April 21, 2015, 10:26:44 pm

My dad was crazy about Jaime's. I guess he'd gone there quite a bit when he was in school, but I doubt we ever missed an opportunity to go there when we were in Austin together. I have a lot of memories of being 8, 10, 12, eating enchiladas in there. I doubt that my current snobbish self would think much of the food now but fortunately for me it's closed and I have no way to sully the memories.

When I was around that same age, my dad would take my brother and I to Austin once or twice a year for UT football; and he always took us to Cisco Bakery when we were in there. He said it helped him get thru law school. The "back room" breakfast of huevos rancheros, chorizo, and refried beans (washed down with Snap-E-Tom's tomato juice), followed by a stack of Cisco's sopaipillas, was a terrific way to start the day.

Is that the same Jaime's where one was challenged to drink six or seven of their margaritas in order to win a T-shirt? If so, damn. I'd forgot that place.

Limey · « **Reply #30 on:** April 22, 2015, 09:25:38 am »

Quote from: homer on April 21, 2015, 12:49:55 pm

Do they just pour it all over the board and give you a biscuit to sop it up?

It's served in what looks like a high-end 2-cup measuring cup.

NeilT · « **Reply #31 on:** April 22, 2015, 09:56:54 am »

Quote from: Dark Star on April 22, 2015, 08:23:18 am

When I was around that same age, my dad would take my brother and I to Austin once or twice a year for UT football; and he always took us to Cisco Bakery when we were in there. He said it helped him get thru law school. The "back room" breakfast of huevos rancheros, chorizo, and refried beans (washed down with Snap-E-Tom's tomato juice), followed by a stack of Cisco's sopaipillas, was a terrific way to start the day.

Is that the same Jaime's where one was challenged to drink six or seven of their margaritas in order to win a T-shirt? If so, damn. I'd forgot that place.

I still go to Cisco's from time to time, but it's not the scene it used to be. There was a time when you went to Cisco's to find out who was sleeping with whom, and also for the biscuits.

JimR · « **Reply #32 on:** April 22, 2015, 10:59:17 am »

Quote from: chuck on April 21, 2015, 10:26:44 pm

My dad was crazy about Jaime's. I guess he'd gone there quite a bit when he was in school, but I doubt we ever missed an opportunity to go there when we were in Austin together. I have a lot of memories of being 8, 10, 12, eating enchiladas in there. I doubt that my current snobbish self would think much of the food now but fortunately for me it's closed and I have no way to sully the memories.

Jaime's closed last year. My Mother and Dad had their first date there.

drew corleone · « **Reply #33 on:** April 22, 2015, 11:55:18 am »

I loved going there after Texas games... always a raucous atmosphere, especially whenever they played Texas Fight (i.e., every 15 minutes).

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #34 on:** April 22, 2015, 12:46:12 pm »

Quote from: JimR on April 22, 2015, 10:59:17 am

Jaime's closed last year. My Mother and Dad had their first date there.

Back when it was a real Spanish village?

NeilT · « **Reply #35 on:** April 22, 2015, 01:36:59 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on April 22, 2015, 12:46:12 pm

Back when it was a real Spanish village?

I understand that before it closed it was the longest continuously operated restaurant in North America.

JimR · « **Reply #36 on:** April 22, 2015, 02:01:41 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on April 22, 2015, 12:46:12 pm

Back when it was a real Spanish village?

sometime in the late 1930s.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #37 on:** April 22, 2015, 03:09:16 pm »

Quote from: JimR on April 22, 2015, 02:01:41 pm

sometime in the late 1930s.

I think that there was a dig in there for you, Coach...

chuck · « **Reply #38 on:** April 22, 2015, 03:14:24 pm »

Mr. Happy explaining jokes to people. That's not something you can just always count on seeing.

JimR · « **Reply #39 on:** April 22, 2015, 03:50:31 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on April 22, 2015, 03:09:16 pm

I think that there was a dig in there for you, Coach...

No shit? You thought I missed it?

NeilT · « **Reply #40 on:** April 22, 2015, 05:22:57 pm »

Quote from: chuck on April 22, 2015, 03:14:24 pm

Mr. Happy explaining jokes to people. That's not something you can just always count on seeing.

I think Mr. Happy's humor has improved with constant exposure, I'm just not sure where he's been hanging out.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #41 on:** April 22, 2015, 08:48:35 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on April 22, 2015, 01:36:59 pm

I understand that before it closed it was the longest continuously operated restaurant in North America.

Not even close. But I'm sure it was good.

NeilT · « **Reply #42 on:** April 22, 2015, 09:07:08 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 22, 2015, 08:48:35 pm

Not even close. But I'm sure it was good.

Good Lord, Mr. Happy is explaining jokes and HH's sarc meter is broken.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #43 on:** April 22, 2015, 09:31:22 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on April 22, 2015, 09:07:08 pm

Good Lord, Mr. Happy is explaining jokes and HH's sarc meter is broken.

Sorry. I've been up since 4:30 am...yesterday.

NeilT · « **Reply #44 on:** April 22, 2015, 09:46:02 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 22, 2015, 09:31:22 pm

Sorry. I've been up since 4:30 am...yesterday.

Apologize! For giving us a chance to abuse you! Good lord man, that was an act of charity.

Dark Star · « **Reply #45 on:** April 23, 2015, 01:17:46 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 22, 2015, 09:31:22 pm

Sorry. I've been up since 4:30 am...yesterday. Fracking.

fixed

Outlawscotty · « **Reply #46 on:** April 23, 2015, 07:58:31 pm »

Quote from: Dark Star on April 23, 2015, 01:17:46 pm

~~fixed~~

Fact Checking

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #47 on:** April 26, 2015, 09:27:48 pm »

Went to Javelina Friday - Queso pretty good. Everything else decent. Tex Mex in NYC still pretty damn poor.

NeilT · « **Reply #48 on:** April 26, 2015, 09:49:20 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on April 26, 2015, 09:27:48 pm

Went to Javelina Friday - Queso pretty good. Everything else decent. Tex Mex in NYC still pretty damn poor.

Well of course it is.

Lefty · « **Reply #49 on:** April 27, 2015, 09:45:41 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on April 26, 2015, 09:27:48 pm

Went to Javelina Friday - Queso pretty good. Everything else decent. Tex Mex in NYC still pretty damn poor.

http://firstwefeast.com/eat/american-psycho-2014-patrick-bateman-dining-guide

das · « **Reply #50 on:** May 04, 2015, 02:07:12 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on April 21, 2015, 05:03:19 pm

La Tap was my favorite. Went there weekly when I was in school. And the rellenos are the go-to dish for me at any Martinez restaurant. There are several Matt's and Mattitos up here in DFW. There was also a place called El Matamoros at the interregional and, I think, 6th Street. It had been my uncle's favorite place when he was in school in the '40s.

I went to The Original here in Ft. Worth last night and had the Roosevelt since it is there signature dish. The queso was ok as was the rest of the dish. It really was no better than Guapos in DC which was surprising since I was told ad nauseum that the Original was the quintessential TexMex place here in DFW. I should have just had my old staple chile relleno since they are pretty hard to screw up.

subnuclear · « **Reply #51 on:** May 04, 2015, 02:38:09 pm »

Quote from: das on May 04, 2015, 02:07:12 pm

I went to The Original here in Ft. Worth last night and had the Roosevelt since it is there signature dish. The queso was ok as was the rest of the dish. It really was no better than Guapos in DC which was surprising since I was told ad nauseum that the Original was the quintessential TexMex place here in DFW. I should have just had my old staple chile relleno since they are pretty hard to screw up.

Guapo's is not setting the bar high. (I've only been to the one in Shirlington.)